An absolute must watch if you want to understand Ukraine, modern geopolitics

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Democrat presidents generally get us into wars: WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Bosnia, and Ukraine. Iraq was the only exception. Western Europe drags weak presidents into wars. Not that helping the Ukraine was a bad idea, since rasPutin's desire to revive the Soviet Union as his legacy needed to be stopped. He has instead removed Russia from Europe again. He mistook a weak president for a chance for fame.
Well it is a slanted interview no question with the interviewer interrupting at key points to prevent some things being mentioned. For instance Russia had been paying an absurdly low periodic payment for the leasing of the Sevastopol Navy facility.but was also expanding it into areas of the city not covered by the lease. In 2013 citing a need for a more realistic price and how inflation had pretty much made the amount Russia had been paying since the 1990s wholly inadequate proposed an amended lease and rent. Putin responded with a speech in which he basically said the monetary amount being proposed was more than Russia was prepared to pay for something that had previously been almost free. In 2014 as the old lease was about to end, with the aid of turncoats inside the military of Ukraine and it's border police Russia invaded and seized Crimea and the Donbas region. Local police and other government officials loyal to Ukraine were rounded up and removed from the planet and replaced by pro-Russian personnel.

The interviewer also side steps around the murder of 100 protestors by police more loyal to Putin than to any concept of public civil rights of protest. Of course that was the key event that led to the overthrow and flight of the Kremlin selected stooge that had briefly been sitting in the President's seat. A free election followed and Zelinsky was chosen.

Has all of this been a plan? Ms. Albright, the former Secretary of State in interviews before her death (and also way back iin 2005 after she met Putin (who she described as a beady eyed snake) stated that back in 2005 after consulting with military experts it was decided the best way to thwart Putin's plans for Westward expansion was to meet Russia in Ukraine. If Putin had no aggressive intentions (as many wiretaps and intercepted messages showed he did), then nothing would happen except that Ukraine would become a major economic and democratic Euroopean force in it's own right. If however Putin had intentions of expanding Russia by force, then Ukraine was the perfect place to destroy Russia's army and economy at minimum cost to Europe or Asia. And lo, Putin's ar,u walked into the trap and is still bleeding in it.

The real debate in many capitals now, is how the Russian Federation should be carved and how much money will be left for the new governments after Russia pays full repatriations to Ukraine. The 300 Billion plus already seized is a small percentage of the money Russia will have to pay. We can also expect a lot of financial loss inside what is today Russia over the next four or five years as different Putin wannabe warlords attempt to seize power in this or that region of Russia. There is a 21st century analogue to the Treaty of Versailles (ToV) on the horizon. This time there will be serious effort to avoid the mistakes of the first ToV that led to conditions that set the stage for Hitler's rise to power, but at the same time providing payments to Ukraine. Turning much of eastern and northern Russia over to China, letting them quietly do what is needed to administer the area while also providing a slice of the oil & gas revenue to Ukraine, at this moment looks to be the simplest solurion. This would also have the benefit of eliminating China's desire for Taiwan as the island has no real native resources other than a dense population and factories that would be made rubble in a fight.
No he doesn't sidestep it - he addresses the fact that most of the deaths of protestors (I don't believe the number was as high as 100) was a result of sniper fire from buildings that were under the occupation of people in the protest movement. There was zero reason whatsoever for President Yanukovych to have ordered police to fire on protestors. Think about it, for goodness sake. The much more likely scenario - considering the CIA's deep involvement and their sordid history in instigating coups - is that protestors were shot and killed in order to facilitate and justify the coup that had been planned.

Also - as regards Zelenskyy - he may have been legitimately elected, but he reneged on his primary promises: namely to end the conflict in Eastern Ukraine and to uphold the Minsk Accords. He ultimately did neither and - as noted - it was admitted by Angela Merkel that Ukraine actually had no interest in abiding by the Minsk Accords. They were essentially buying time and building up their military capability - something which Russia would obviously have viewed as a direct threat. I remember seeing a video from a few years back of Zelenskyy's closest advisor basically saying that war with Russia was inevitable and that Ukraine must prepare for this outcome. Can you imagine what Russia would have thought seeing this? Use your brain. Russia obviously would have started preparing also.

I don't agree with Russia's invasion. But the oft heard argument that it was 'unprovoked' is quite the stretch. Since 2014 Ukraine has basically been a vassal state of the U.S. military industrial complex. NATO has expanded eastwards for decades, despite prior promises to Russia not to do so. Ukraine becoming part of NATO was always an absolute red line for Russia, which is completely understandable. And yet that's precisely what the Biden administration was pushing for as soon as in office. This was probably the most avoidable war of our lifetime. Interfering in Ukraine for decades such as was done (primarily by the U.S.) was always likely to end in disaster. Don't fool yourself; for as much as propagandists in the West like to talk about 'democracy' - this is and always has been about empire. About expanding the U.S. military industrial complex's sphere of influence and control to within a country very rich in natural resources (Ukraine).

Let's pray for a swift end to this war and to start promoting togetherness and good relations instead of pushing conflict and division for monetary and military benefit.
The quickest way for the War to end is if Putin pulls his troops out. The lives of those who wish they were Russian instead of Ukrainian will probably be bettered by leaving with those soldiers, unless they wish to stay and remove the millions of land mines and unexploded ordinance Russia has placed in Ukraine. The invaders leave, the war can end, so simple.
That's ethnic cleansing Ken.
Putin is there for a reason well laid out in the video.
I know you are extreme and will not budge but at least this blog show the ones who is uninformed of the background a better view and hopefully to reach a different conclusion than you.

The whole point is: the Russians in Ukraine has been the victims of unreasonable treatment since at least 2014. Putin had to 1) come to teir rescue firmly this time and 2) draw a line for endless Nato expansion.
Nato expansion would only be endless if every country joined.

Putin had the right to draw the line at Russia's border. I don't know why you think he had the right to draw the line at another country's border where he had no politcal, or legal jurisdiction.

I haven't been exposed to any evidence that Putin is on a humanitarian rescue mission. Perhaps his Mother Theresa outfit has been in the wash whenever I've seen footage of him.
LoL, that is twisted logic. Any Russians in Ukraine after 2014 were there as invaders. Those there the day before Putin's first invasion were either Ukrainian citizens or Russian agents pretending to be comfortable with being in Ukraine. Certainly once Putin invaded Crimea Russians in Ukraine, if they supported the invasion became citizens of an enemy nation and should reasonably expect to be the target of discrimination if not actual justifiable attack. If they are still there I would argue they are not ordinary citizens but criminal looters fully deserving of a looter's fate. It is best for them to voluntarily leave now while the bridge back to Russia still stands.
Similar to what Usa did in 62 with Cuba, an independent nation but too close for comfort that military buildup. By the way did you watch the vidoe that explain how Nato promised not to go eastwords already in 1991?
The whole "Ukraine is the bastion of Freedom" thing is hoax. It is the most corrupt nation in Europe. It was no free press, no free elections, and the organized crime rules it. Those fascists brutalized Ukrainians of Russian descent.

The Spring Offensive was a slaughter house, for the Ukrainians. When Russia finally moves, it will be over real quick. It will not even be a contest. No insult to Ukrainian bravery. Just an obvious observation.

Russia has already won the war. But those Ukrainian "elite" will go into exile with all the money they stole. And the country may or may not exist five years from now.

I have friends of many years on both sides of this mess. This war could have been avoided if their were adults in the room.
So true.
Or if there was no one profiting from it.
That's hilarious. The ones slaughtered in the offensive have been the Russians. Every day they fall back a little further and abandon more positions. Their daily battlefield losses in terms of destroyed mechanized machines are often 3 or 4 times what Ukraine loses. Of course the machines have multiple men in them when they blow up, so that too implies Russia is taking horrible losses. Russia often leaves their wounded and dead where they fall and there are plenty of drone videos of dead Russians abandoned in or near their trenches. That Russian Kilo class missile submarine that burned last night in Sevastapol, how much did that cost? How many years would it take Russia to rebuild that dry dock (if Russia lasted long enough) and replace the western made equipment that burned that kept it operating? Those 11 technicians that burned alive on that landing ship, how many years of training and ship repair experience went up in smoke with them?

Your definition of winning a war is bizarre. You have lost more soldiers than you began the war with. Ukraine now has more Russian designed tanks and planes than it began the war with. The previously Russian occupied refineries off the coast of Crimea are now occupied by Ukraine. Fully half the Russian Black Sea fleet has been sunk and most what is left of it now hides in the Azov Sea. And Ukraine doesn't even have any war ships to speak of (yet). The NATO fleet will soon be in the Black Sea for an exercise. Explosions from air attacks rattle Moscow, the Russian capital, almost every night. More effective western weapons arrive in Ukraine every week. The Russian air force is scared to enter Ukraine's air space because whenever they do, their planes get swatted out of the sky.

Canalization of stolen Boeing airplanes to keep the other stolen ones airborne as commercial air transport will only work for about six months. That time is past and we begin to see Russian commercial airplanes dropping out of the sky. Hydraulic failure, chassis cracks, landing gear collapses, (aka hard landing, LoL), engines that suddenly flame in flight. Russian passengers will be seeing a lot more of that. There was a reason for scheduled maintenance, air frame inspections, and parts replacement. Russia's decision to ignore all that and run the stolen passenger airliners till they won't fly anymore fast approaches the inevitable result. All Russian logistics moves by rail. But the railroads are running out of spare parts too. Western made parts China lacks the technology to make clones of. Good luck holding your aircraft together in flight with knock off parts made in Pakistan. And don't even talk about the vast buying power of the Russian ruble, because it has none.

You say when the Russian Army begins to move,,. What Army? You gonna forcibly draft another 300,000 and give them spears to charge with?
Some persons are only good for a laugh, and are totally engulfed by propaganda.

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According to the poster above Ukraine is in control of Bakhmut...but actually Ukraine is like a small dog yapping at the heels on the far outskirts of Bakhmut.laugh
Just pop into Moon Of Alabama every now and then both sides are represented there. Mostly Europeans as far as I can tell.
Otherwise it boils down to cartel like money laundering and governments getting rid of old useless weapons so they can line their pockets with brand new MIC purchases.
Plus they don't need to actually decommission those old useless weapons.
And they testing ground for both sides new and improved weapons.
So far the Russians have the best.
The US is also trying to destroy the EU by forcing them away from Russia, like making them purchase much more expensive LNG.
Sadly though when they force WW3 to avoid having a real 2024 election, up most of the world goes in smoke.
So start rewashing the original Mad max films.


teddybear
Lukeon - from the same soujrce. Your map reading error is compounded by the site either changing the spelling of a towns name, not showing it, or moving it a half inch this way or that each time on zooms in or out.
Suffice to say, this site (which is independent and not controlled by Ukraine or the US) does not show the unimportant mining town of Bakhumet as being captured. Half encircled is a better way of describing it.
Heavy fighting is represented by yellow. Totally controlled by Ukraine in blue. Usually white means nothing much is happening there.

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Ny sources advise Ukraine has no intention of entering Bakhumet. They are content to let Russians keep flowing into it as the entire town is grid locked artillery targets. The Russians lack the strength to move West, but continually send a steady supply of troops and vehicles into the town where Ukraine's artillery chews them up and the next day more Russian targets flow into the town. Why Russia is so dumb is unknown, but as long as Western supplied artillery shells continue to arrive, Ukraine is happy to put them to work in Bakhumet.
Anyone who wants to see a current tactical map can view it at


Zoom in or out for more detail.
Nato is corrupt and should be disbanded. Cuba? In more recent history, Let’s not forget Somali, Granada, Falklands, Iraq, Vietnam. Nato should be permanently stationed at the u.s. southern border protecting it. Its time europe controlled slavery in the usa should end.

The big three european nations are responsible for the ukraine disaster, not russia. There are more people here than will admit it but we are tired of europe’s disguised enslavement of the u.s. and its endless demands that we each send the equivalent of one months salary annually to economically and militarily support europeans.

We are tired of being europe’s slaves.the world is tired being slaves for europe. Europe can eat sheets and bark at the moon.
@sdarlagg.
Funny thing is, if America had kepts its hands off I'm sure
Russia had never needed to make this move, and if something like this had happen anyway
we'd talk Europe-Russia and find a way without a single gunshot.
Putin wants nothing but peace and coexsistance, trade and closer cooperation.
As proven by the US-blown up North Stream lines, now out of order.

I also remember well Putin and Macrons public talks on the stage
in St.Petersburg economic summit 2018. Friendly stuff.
Yes, if europe had not demanded u.s. send our slave money per nato demands, russia and non nazis in ukraine would have worked out something amicably before all the death and destruction there.
We can imagine how boringly peaceful the world would be if Putin had not decided to invade Ukraine. The 2 geo-thermal power plants they had built as power sources could have provided a new paradigm to eliminate hydrocarbon supplies as a source of pollution. The potential loss of oil income that would have cost Russia no doubt explains why those sites were bombed into rubble with the developers killed early on in the 2022 invasion. Ukraine's small army and lack of aggressive intent to invade anyone was a threat to no one. The new intended infrastructure reforms would have (and still will once Russia is thrown out of Ukraine) would transform the country into an economic powerhouse and a center of commerce By now it would have been in the European Union and a valued trading partner to all. Alas, greed backed up by piss-poor intelligence led to a really bad for Russia decision on Putin's part.

My personal opinion is Europe should build a 40 foot thick reinforced concrete wall along all borders with Russia, sever all diplomatic ties, cancel any telephone or Internet connections and impose a quick death sentence on any who trade with Russia or conspire to. Later on Asia should do the same thing after they take of it what they wish. Maybe eventually it will happen. I hope so.

For an unknown reason someone else is fascinated by the Russian sacrifices at Bakhmut. Bskhmut is currently occupied by Russian Combat Reserve unit (aka unhappy conscripts) backed up (surrounded to prevent retreat) by the remnants of the Russian 217th Airborne Division (pretty much eviscerated in Feb and March 2022). There are not very many places left in Bakhmut in which to shelter from drone guided artillery.

An alternative tactical map of the situation today is available from


Here is a screenshot from the area around Bakhumet. For security reasons DeepState does not show the positions of individual units of Ukraine.

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Ukraine expresses gratitude to the Russian tourist who a few months ago posted a geo-locatable selfie of himself posing in front of the $1.2 Billion dollar Triumph Air Defense complex in Crimea.

A video from 7 seconds away of the destruction of the S-400 Triumph complex is at (for those over 18);


Moon of Alabama
EVERYTHING about the war from both sides.
The US govt are worried about the Russian response to the Ukraine attack on the ship repair yard in Crimea last week, there is word the US govt may cut electricity in the US due to Russian hackers trying to damage or take down the US power grid.. The date i heard of power cuts in the US is the 23rd of September..

Note that it's British shadow missiles that were used in the Crimean ship yard attack and probably the Crimean bridge attack, so where and which countries are going to be on the end of Russian response is anyone's guess...
Earlier, the head of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Sergei Shoigu, stated that the use of Western missiles outside the special operation zone would mean a full-fledged involvement of Great Britain and the United States in the armed conflict. Only Britain and the United States no longer seem to be trying to hide the fact that they have been actively participating in the conflict against Russia for a long time.
Just visit MOON OF ALABAMA for the daily ongoing discussion from both sides.
A lot of Europeans comment there and it is the most balanced of views.
Or we can follow cherry picked propaganda.

teddybear
Both need WW3 to save dying economies and stop the 2024 election.

teddybear
The idea that another nation would have the ability to take down the U.S. power grid is ridiculous

If problems were to occur in this regard, it is much more likely that rogue domestic actors would be the culprits. It's (pretty) well known that the economy is in very bad shape and is teetering on the brink. Add in the fact that BRICS nations are starting to trade in their own currencies and abandoning the U.S. dollar and you have a very unstable situation. So I think as things start to destabilize, you can expect to see some false flags in order to try and shift blame elsewhere.
Now there is a fantasy. LoL the US is so (not) worried about the Russian response to the attack in Sevestapol that last night according to several news sources US Secretary of State Blinken told Ukraine that when the TACOMS (a long range HIMARS missile variant) is sent to Ukraine, the choice of where to use it will be entirely up to Ukraine. This includes using it on targets deep inside Russia if so desired. Other signs of US worry about what Russia thinks are recent US discussions with NATO officials about removing existing restraints on where prior weapons gifts to Ukraine can be used.
President Zelinsky will be in the US this week and I have no doubt some new good news for Ukraine will result. Slave Ukraine.
No I know. US arrogantly never worried about nothing. That's why we're in this mess.
Kind of close. Money laundering and the ability to destroy old weapons without the effort or cost to the government.
For a really good time do a search on Ukraine and Organ harvesting.
Don't use Google use something like Yandex or DuckDuckgo.
The oldest article I came across was from 2011 and was Israelis paying for organs. You also had people paying UKIE women for babies.\
But the strange ones are the Germans that sent portable crematories. And how many soldiers came back cremated.
Organ harvesting big time.
No one discusses it though.
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teddybear
All I know is, the background of this conflict is very, I mean very easy to understand- unless if you listen to western propaganda. Everybody understood the Cuba thingy 50 years ago... oh.. had to make a stance (on foreign nations soil)... for peace u see.... lol and peace was restored, cos the bad guys finally came to their senses and ran away... rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing well will the usa soon run away from ukraine please...???
so we can avoid that nuke in Paris, London, Oslo and Helsinki?
not to mention Boston, and N.Y. They got subs u know..
they have a drill up there right now, arctica.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements



Former German Chancellor Merkel admits the Minsk agreement was merely to buy time for Ukraine’s arms build-up
Peter Schwarz
21 December 2022

According to former German Chancellor Angela Merkel, the Minsk agreement served to buy time to rearm Ukraine. “The 2014 Minsk agreement was an attempt to give Ukraine time,” Merkel told the weekly Die Zeit. “It also used this time to become stronger, as you can see today.”
People are dying for nothing.
Nothing!
Devide the damn land!
It will be permanent this time.
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I believe the harvesting is happening,
the prostitusion and export a la Epstein.
The labs.
There is oil and gas interests, and the rich soil too.
So rich the whermacht was importing it on rail road tracks.

No, the greedy hands are all over the place.
Including Pantagonian strategic interests that comes as a bonus.
That's the sad shit DL. Both France and Germany was against it (the hard line).
But the Us paid Germany back by blowing up Nordstream. Now France is getting their asses kicked by Russia and China in Africa.
Part of the US plan always involved destroying the Eu.
Working so far.

teddybear
Part of the *Deep State* plan, I'd proffer. I don't believe the vast majority of Americans agree with what this rogue administration is doing.
But it was independent or not on paper, controlled then by leaders selected by the Kremlin (noting this sort of evil is why in 2013 and 2014 the push to cut ties with Russia resulted) in the time frame of the organ harvesting. An uprising by the people followed, a free election and that sort of evil ground to a halt.

Noting also the many stories and Telegram videos while the fight for Mariupol was underway in 2022 of Russia bringing portable crematoriums not just for usage on executed civilians of Mariupol, but even on their own soldiers so that the dead Russian soldier could just be described as 'missing' to the relatives back home and no death benefit paid.
Ending the conflict is easy. All it takes is for Putin to order all Russians in Ukraine to stop fighting and leave Ukraine's borders. But of course if the war stopped then he would have to focus on domestic issues inside Russia and his track record there is dismal for the past two decades and he probably would soon be replaced.

Most Americans I know are in support of Ukraine. Yes the under-educated ones who still believe Donald Trump will return the power of White America to a pre-Civil Rights Act status (and who are also morally corrupt enough to believe that would be a good thing) blindly echo whatever he tells them to. But most Americans now see him as an idiotic butt kisser of Putin who is desperate to avoid his future decades in prison by any means necessary.

Support for the conflict in Ukraine will most probably continue until the last Russian is purged from it's borders, one way or the other. Most understand that at the current rate of western supply the Russian military will cease to exist by 2032. The commitment is made and political efforts asking Congress to authorize spending to make more munitions faster to supply Ukraine with are underway. Hopefully a few years can be shaved off. At the same time others in Europe make similar requests for munitions production increases of their own leaders. F-16s and Grippen fighters will be Ukraine by 2024 and personally I am sorry that those who stupidly still believe Tucker Carlson's claim Trump is the way caused the needless death of so many Ukrainian civilians and defenders by delaying those supplies. However the error is under correction.

Regarding Russia going all cuckoo and spastically throwing nukes at every Western capital (as if that wouldn't result in smouldering radioactive craters where St. Petersburg and Moscow, Rostov, Vladivostok, Irkutsk, etc used to be within 5 to 15 minutes after Russia's launch) don;t worry. Russia has (if Putin's minions bothered to spend the money to maintain it) their Perimeter system and we have our own equivalent (which is maintained).

Speaking of which, what is going on with those seized by unknown armed persons refineries outside Irkutsk that 'Inside Russia' was reporting on yesterday? Has the rebellion inside Russia already begun?
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