Cheaters always prosper...

The saying when I was a school boy was told: Cheaters never prosper. As I got older, I found it to be the opposite. If you want to get ahead in business, cut corners and cheat.
Depending on how greedy you are there comes a time when you can no longer hide shady dealings.

This afternoon in the news, I read:

Judge Arthur Engoron, ruling in a civil lawsuit brought by New York Attorney General Letitia James, found that Trump and his company deceived banks, insurers and others by massively overvaluing his assets and exaggerating his net worth on paperwork used in making deals and securing loans.

The Trump Organization had been under investigation for more than a decade, but Trump while president was under a veil of protection. The veil is gone.

So it appears that cheaters can prosper until they get audited.
"Judge rules Trump inflated net worth, committed fraud, overvalued assets"


You knew this was coming... right?






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Yep his business certificates are no longer valid in New York

In fact this trial alone could wipe him out financially
To some degree, yes. Let's not discount that he holds 2 titles:

World class con artist.
World class grifter.

It will come off as a business loss and I expect he will maneuver around it.
From the comments re:

"You knew this was coming... right?"

Yea, we can alwayst trust some irrelevant stuff from you.
I think you need to accept that Trump used a few tricks as a business man.
Live with it.

The only thing that meant for his presidency was that he was not easily outmanuvered
by highly intelligent gov officals from abroad, making him able to make good deals
on behalf of the american taxpayers. thumbs up
Tou guys can't see the forest for only trees.

Tell me something from his presidency you didn't like.
So fed up hearing about his character.
Was he bought and payd for as the rest of his predecessor or current adm?
Yes or No.
When I was 9 I stole some candy at a local store Chat.
I'm sorry.
Irrelevant?

Small stuff like claiming Trump Tower having more floors than it actually had. The fire inspector had an issue with that.
Listing Mar-a-Lago at 10 times is real value or his NY apartment at twice the size and three times it's value.

That's okay Grand... I'll say it again... there is NOTHING... absolutely NOTHING you believe negative about Trump. Not one.
Sorry you cannot accept any of it and it's stupid of me to reply to you.
I know better, but with a hurricane of LEGAL things happening to Trump and you not accepting the slightest. Your thought about Trump is flawed.
Sorry for you.
I'm off to a meeting... replies will have to wait.
This is a Trump blog.


Locked for now...
Eric and Don Jr. Trump took to X to slam the Judge's valuation of his father's Mar-a-Lago resort, which Trump claims is over a billion dollars, but Engoron ruled is worth between $18 million and $27.6 million - which is absurd when you look at the surrounding property values.

In an attempt to destroy my father and kick him out of New York, a Judge just ruled that Mar-a-Lago, in Palm Beach Florida, is only worth approximate “$18 Million dollars”… Mar-a-Lago is speculated to be worth we’ll over a billion dollars making it arguably the most valuable… pic.twitter.com/b0U6J5ykWJ
— Eric Trump (@EricTrump) September 26, 2023

The real estate circles in Florida are laughing at this foolishness.
— Eric Trump (@EricTrump) September 26, 2023

These homes are about 1/30 the size of Mar-a-Lago, not on the beach (let alone the beach and intercostal), don’t span from once side of the Palm Beach Island to the other… it is a travesty of justice and an embarrassment to the court. pic.twitter.com/d59nEsTtwo
— Eric Trump (@EricTrump) September 26, 2023

JUST IN - A New York judge ruled that Trump inflated his property values, including Mar-a-Lago, which the judge determined was worth $18-$27 million from 2011 to 2021.

To put this into perspective, neighboring homes on 0.28-0.89 acres are listed for $18-40 million.

Mar-a-Lago,… pic.twitter.com/cpqICdAynf
— KanekoaTheGreat (@KanekoaTheGreat) September 27, 2023

Distraction, mission accomplished?
Anyone smell RAPID overturn by a HIGHER unbiased court?

teddybear
I think this is a reasonable summary:

In a 35 page decision, Judge Engoron found Trump has engaged in willful, intentional and persistent fraud by inflating and deflating the value of assets for gainful tax and loan purposes to the value of $3.7 billion.

Trump's accounting firm, Mazars USA, has stated that nothing they have done for Trump in the ast 11 years can be relied upon because they can no longer trust the information provided to them.

All certificates of operation have been cancelled for any entity controlled, or owned by Trump, Trump Jr, Eric, Allen Weisselberg (chief financial officer of the Trump Organization), or Jeff McConney (senior vice president and controller of the Trump Organisation) are cancelled. This means they are out of business in the state and it's of immediate effect.

Within 10 days of the date of the order, Trump must appoint no more than three independent receivers to manage the dissolution of his businesses in NY, including the Trump Organisation and the main trust he inherited from his father which he uses for all his assets.

Disgorgement (taking back profits he gained through fraud) is expected.

The decision will likely be stayed for the purposes of hearing Trump out on appeal because the decision is so devastating.

However, Judge Engoron has already issued sanctions against all of the firms involved in defending Trump to the tune of $7500 each. Sanctions of this nature are very rare, but have been applied on the grounds of his lawyers presenting frivolous motions (the same thing three times in different words) and attempting delaying tactics, as well as mirepresenting and misciting the law.

A part of the issue appears to be that Trump's lawyers from New Jersey and Florida are wholly unfamiliar with the complexities of New York legislation and precedent.

Between the overwhelming evidence of fraud that lead to this rare summary judgement and unskilled defense lawyering, hearing Trump out on appeal may be a fruitless courtesy.
was that he was not easily outmanuvered
by highly intelligent gov officals from abroad, making him able to make good deals
on behalf of the american taxpayers.You appear to have your legal cases a bit muddled up.

This case is a civil fraud case.

The only connection with his presidency is that he was protected from prosecution for the duration of his tenure.

Although he was cleary hiding his fraudulent business practises, it wasn't illegal for him to refuse to make his tax records public while in office. It was just poor etiquette and quite rightly suspicious as it turns out.

There are three, or four other legal cases unrelated to this one which deal with his alleged presidential misconduct. Don't panic, there's plenty more to come where you can whine in defense of his presidency.

Btw, you can't minimise this case by trying to make out it involved a few minor tricks, like he pinched a couple of pencils, or claimed business expenses for a sandwich on his day off.

The ruling was that Trump enaged in willful, intentional and persistent business fraud, inflating and deflating the value of his assets to the tune of $3.7 billion for the purposes of tax evasion, or receiving loans he wasn't entitled to.

When people like Trump tax defraud the government they are defrauding, aka thieving from, the people. Not that it's necessary to demonstrate there was a victim; business fraud is illegal in it's own right.
Both figures are absurd. Mar-a-Lago in total is apparently valued at around $350 million, according to several relatively reputable news sources.

Unfortunately seems that everyone is perfectly happy with hysteria including the marmite man himself and his unplugged sons. roll eyes
Always been pointless mentioning the tax thing. In his debate with Hillary Clinton he said 'anyone who pays tax is stupid' and he had said in tweets before that it was stupid to pay tax. NEVER been a problem for his supporters, they don't mind.
Which begs the question, how do Trump supporters not understand that less money in the government coffers means less expenditure on services for them, higher taxes for themselves to make up the difference, or both?
You appear to have your legal cases a bit muddled up.

This case is a civil fraud case.

The only connection with his presidency is that he was protected from prosecution for the duration of his tenure.

Although he was cleary hiding his fraudulent business practises, it wasn't illegal for him to refuse to make his tax records public while in office. It was just poor etiquette and quite rightly suspicious as it turns out.

There are three, or four other legal cases unrelated to this one which deal with his alleged presidential misconduct. Don't panic, there's plenty more to come where you can whine in defense of his presidency.

Btw, you can't minimise this case by trying to make out it involved a few minor tricks, like he pinched a couple of pencils, or claimed business expenses for a sandwich on his day off.

The ruling was that Trump enaged in willful, intentional and persistent business fraud, inflating and deflating the value of his assets to the tune of $3.7 billion for the purposes of tax evasion, or receiving loans he wasn't entitled to.

When people like Trump tax defraud the government they are defrauding, aka thieving from, the people. Not that it's necessary to demonstrate there was a victim; business fraud is illegal in it's own right.

*corrected version
Will you reopen this Trump blog? Jac wants to know... laugh

Actually I have his only: don't sweat the small stuff. Let the man pay minimum taxes, zero is ok with me. Why? Cos he created loads of jobs, whom do pay taxes. Besides we all know most rich folk hardly pay none anyway cos they know all the loopholes. Always been like that. No, go focus on the real problem at hand: the corruption of D.C which he ain't part of, but todays adm is.

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Basically ,locked except for the anti-Trump self pleasurers?

teddybear
Actually no. You got through with no trouble.

For the record, I deleted off-topic comments, but you know that.
Like the sub-contractors he didn't pay.
One of the ones who took him to court went out of business as Trump is a master of rescheduling court dates.
Soros had some new talking points at that morning meeting.
I bet you are part of the Democrat party operation?
Chair person for your area?
Denied access to Mar a lago?
You know very well none of this will stick and are simply playing it up for as long as you can.
Then you will cry when he beats the charges.
Face it the Dems are pulling a Zelensky and driving up Trump support because the US loves an under dog and driving the rest to RFK jr.
Dems are f*cked this election unless they ban the election.
Covid 2.0, WW3, pick one.
Honestly it is your money they piss away with all these tricks. Are you that dumb?
You may as well just mail the big guy his 10% straight out of your paycheck.
Gov pays me so I don't care.
I worked, got hurt and collected money since 90.
I gather I can make as much as 40k a tear without losing my benefits.
But I'm happy not being in debt nor greedy.
Every time you drive up Trumps numbers and they have some kind of case you may as well start burning hundreds outright.
You ain't never seeing that money again.
And the Welsh are not gonna send you any.

The 48 Laws of Power
Law 6

Court Attention at all Cost

Everything is judged by its appearance; what is unseen counts for nothing. Never let yourself get lost in the crowd, then, or buried in oblivion. Stand out. Be conspicuous, at all cost. Make yourself a magnet of attention by appearing larger, more colorful, more mysterious, than the bland and timid masses.
Law 17

Keep Others in Suspended Terror: Cultivate an Air of Unpredictability

Humans are creatures of habit with an insatiable need to see familiarity in other people’s actions. Your predictability gives them a sense of control. Turn the tables: Be deliberately unpredictable. Behavior that seems to have no consistency or purpose will keep them off-balance, and they will wear themselves out trying to explain your moves. Taken to an extreme, this strategy can intimidate and terrorize.
Law 21

Play a Sucker to Catch a Sucker – Seem Dumber than your Mark

No one likes feeling stupider than the next persons. The trick, is to make your victims feel smart – and not just smart, but smarter than you are. Once convinced of this, they will never suspect that you may have ulterior motives.

Law 34

Be Royal in your Own Fashion: Act like a King to be treated like one

The way you carry yourself will often determine how you are treated; In the long run, appearing vulgar or common will make people disrespect you. For a king respects himself and inspires the same sentiment in others. By acting regally and confident of your powers, you make yourself seem destined to wear a crown.

Law 37

Create Compelling Spectacles

Striking imagery and grand symbolic gestures create the aura of power – everyone responds to them. Stage spectacles for those around you, then full of arresting visuals and radiant symbols that heighten your presence. Dazzled by appearances, no one will notice what you are really doing

Law 39

Stir up Waters to Catch Fish

Anger and emotion are strategically counterproductive. You must always stay calm and objective. But if you can make your enemies angry while staying calm yourself, you gain a decided advantage. Put your enemies off-balance: Find the chink in their vanity through which you can rattle them and you hold the strings.


Donald Trump's Mastery Of The 48 Laws Of Power
There is little I like to give Trump credit for, but after reviewing the 48 Laws of Power again, I have to be completely honest in my assessment: Trump is, at least partially, quite brilliant at attaining and keeping power
Soros had some new talking points at that morning meeting.

I stopped reading at that point.
I hear that, truth hurts.
teddybear
Hurts you...
The truth is you are paranoia-obsessive and don't know when to stop.
The Art Of The Deal has turned into The Art Of The Steal

He hasn't a chance in hell of maneuvering around this
I genuinely thought at first, skimming through this, that it was a mock. So the angry ranting, unable to say certain words, suggesting disinfectant as a covid cure, the "I never said that" when it was said on real time captured in video - that's all deliberate manipulation to make people think he's stupid? Man, he's good! He's VERY good. This has completely opened my eyes, it's always worried me that anyone could be seeming to go out of his way to alienate so many.

I can see it would be useful in business, let people think you're a doofus and you have them where you want them, interesting strategy. Most of us try to pretend to be brighter and more on the ball than we are. Bold and yes, effective, get all the suckers indeed.

Now I just have to get my head round why you would want to make half the people in the country you want to represent think you're a doofus. Surely, surely, instead of treating them as suckers to be tricked and fooled and manipulated for profit, as in business, they should be being tricked and fooled and manipulated into voting for you - no? confused
I just read a strange article suggesting part of the Biden ignorance/dementia is planned out.
There are a couple of mob related films/tv series where the mob boss pretends dementia to get moved from prison to a Psych unit and escapes on the way.
By this point we are si screwed up, look at Clinton's statement regarding "what is "is", we have no clue what is really happening.
Biden though had brain surgery. Brain damage may result in impulse control issues, sniffing girls hair and possibly molesting his children, and early onset Dementia.
I tend to cut him break for that.
Hunter, was the loser son who tried to compete after his beloved older brother died. Even stealing his dead brothers wife.
That is some Beta dog working to be alpha shit there.
I cut him a break for that.
Abuse is abuse no matter how you see it.

teddybear
If you wish to understand the mentality watch The Lion in Winter with peter O'Toole and Katherine Hepburn. O'Tooles Henry keeps everyone off balance with his actions.
One can never tell when he is expressing a real emotion or feigning to work the person/group.
Possibly the best film to illustrate how to correctly use power even when you are insignificant.
I read somewhere that the thing Con artists and Rich people have in common is an attitude of ENTITLEMENT.
There was a TV show Lie to me. They covered micro expressions. One of the first thing the main character did was make people angry to establish a baseline from which to read them. Then he would revert to monkey behavior, shrinking down and covering bis head.
There is a great section showing the many politicians who break down in tears wearing blue ties after getting caught.


teddybear
Full Trump quote ( Like the grab them by the pu**y quote taken out of context eleven years after it was made. he never stated to actually grab them by the pu**y he said it was the mindset of the rich and famous that you can do that. 2005 Cosby had been drugging and raping women for decades, Danny Masterson was raping women, R.Kelly was peeing on little girls and do we have to get into rock star mentality? Also Harvey had been casting couch women for decades
Here is a link to the transcript with dates listed
)

Trumps actual words.

"Here’s the full context:

"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?"

"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."

Later, Trump clarified his comments after a reporter asked Bryan whether disinfectants could actually be injected into COVID-19 patients.

"It wouldn’t be through injections, almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object."

teddybear
DL - I asked one question in my post, and it wasn't 'please tell me how to disinfect people' scold

It really was, to me, quite a relevant question. Why treat half the population as adversaries when trying to win a popularity contest?
You're not cutting anyone any slack when you're gossiping about child abuse allegations you have no evidence for.

You're just contributing to a world where women and girls are vilified, punished and even imprisoned for trying to report genuine abuse, whilst you as a man think it's your right to piss on them by genuinely making unsubstantiated allegations.

You're not even cutting yourself any slack here, having demeaned yourself in this way.
"Which begs the question, how do Trump supporters not understand that less money in the government coffers means less expenditure on services for them, higher taxes for themselves to make up the difference, or both?"

"Hillary's e-mails! Hillary's e-mails!" No, wait. That's a different red herring. This one is more like "welfare recipients are bums, and refugees are invaders."
I think we can go a step further and add 'non-white wefare recipients' and 'aliens' in a bid to dehumanise and create 'otherness' for social status and economic gain.

That surely is the greater cheat from which so many have prospered and Donald Trump has eagerly utilised for his unique success.

It's perhaps the greatest cheat of all time, to thrive off, to arbitrarily inflate oneself at the expense of deflating, abbreviating 'others'.

It's interesting how those two acts of fraud, Trump's business fraud and social fraud, mirror each other so intimately.

It demonstrates the objectification of people, the commodity value of human life other than his own, in Donald Trump's disordered perception of society. It is the manifestation of his intent, not to serve, but to be served.

Once you accept that defrauding in one currency is unacceptable, you must surely accept the very same fraudulence in human currency is unreasonable and intolerable. Ergo, Trump supporters must support and applaud his financial theft in order to avoid seeing themselves as tender.
And n0b0dy cheats like the Biden Admin & the media machine propping it up....

I remind ALL of you this is a Trump blog.
I offered you a Biden blog... please use it or create your own Biden blog.

Thanks!
Stop pounding my blog with off-topic comments to fit your agenda.
Stop your agenda of parrot parrot the M$M bullshit...roll eyes
It's his blog, you McMuppet laugh
Blogs are private with their own domain.
This is a PUBLIC site he does not own it.
Basically he is posting a topic.An opinion column.
He can post and block then he has the right to name it his blog.
FREE JULIAN!

teddybear
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