JEALOUSY AND ITS EFFECT IN OUR RELATIONSHIPS

I truly believe, our biggest obstacle to happiness is this monstrous feelings, specially when it is beyond control. Yet is there such thing as a positive jealousy?

One of the darkest sentiment ever given to us, humans, when it comes to love, is this feeling, JEALOUSY. At least to me quite parallel to HATE, AND EVEN ENVY. But in a love relationship between lovers, this seems to me the most elaborate reason why our love ends or die even as we declare, proclaim that our love will never die. It will last forever. It will weather all the dark storms we will have to face. Challenges we will confront will not prevail because we love each other so much. In fact, TILL DEATH DO US PART?(not really till jealousy kills our love?) Then one day. Bam! Someone was brave enough to give you the bad news that actually you are not the only one in his or her heart. How do we handle it? Is there a system quite established to follow? So we are not going to be a victim of this crippling, damaging feeling?


All through the years, my personal observation, at least to most of my friends, and those that are known to me, including but not limited to so many famous people is the feeling of jealousy that which eroded that beautiful, heavenly, pure love we once had.

Cheating, triggers, this emotion. Then it escalates to a very hurtful feeling. The problem is, when in the beginning when there is not yet enough and or sufficient evidence, as to the existence of insincerity, or disloyalty or cheating from whom we love, how do we address it? Will our preliminary steps, account to the success and or failure of our goal? Which is of course to either, re cement and or end our relationship. Taken into considerations are the time and effort we have been with him or her that we love. When do we walk away and when do we forgive. And if we do forgive, is there any sufficient success? Or is the passion diminished and dead?

If you stay, why? If you decide not to why?

Thanks all for your participation.

NOTE: IS THERE A CONNECTION BETWEEN OUR FEELINGS WITH OUR REASON? AND OR LOGIC? TO TEMPER AND GUIDE OUR REACTION AND EVENTUAL DECISION? QUESTION? RELIABILITY OF OUR FEELINGS? IS IT A MATTER FOR AND AGAINST THE HEART AND THEREFORE, WONT EVER USE REASON? FOR FORGIVENESS? REMEMBER THAT WE AREN'T PERFECT LIKE SPOCK..OR THERE WOULD BE NONE OF THESE TO BEGIN WITH?

Two of my best relationships ended because of this and I am still finding a way to abate and abridge if I can. Can we?
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Hi LJ, I can only talk about my relationships. There never was jealousy because we never gave each other a reason to be jealous.

Trust and faithfulness were always important to me and himself. I don't want to be with someone I couldn't trust or have to ask myself where he is etc. I couldn't and wouldn't want to deal with something like that and thankfully didn't have to until now.
I understand my dear KN> In my personal experience I have never had either up until about two three years ago and the most recent. I believe that two people who has not known each other, other than that of telling who they are and same way with me is leaving all the essential keys to be learned. Unfortunately we do fall in love regardless of how uncanny one's life is, and it is in the process of how they handle the events that took place that is hard for me to understand.

Yet perhaps because there are some part of the past that needs closures and not quite there yet and it does pose a great pain in the new relationship.

I had a very long healthy relationship with my ex of 26 years and never felt the need of being jealous. It only took him three years to earn my trust and since then it was great. But internet relationship, I find out, is truly a very different case.
the first cut is the deepest
Hello my dear G. Always, and I understand why. The first time you feel you are being betrayed marks the most potent of pain.
I do know where you are coming from LJ. I found it easier to meet someone socially through friends and get to know them over a period of time before getting it together. Meeting someone through the internet or a night out is different and didn't give me the time to get to know someone that well before getting into something. I also find that some things get different and more complicated as I get older. laugh
In my personal case, it is always the inability of the one I have met that left out most of the most important things in his life that will eventually take place and rather make me in an awkward position. The way we do things, treat our friends and ex are of crucial importance to the health of our new relationship. I never have to call and or chit chat with my ex. Our relationship is limited to those that require legal obligations if any. Bit chit chatting and talking about non essential are to me, undermining the new love found. Yet I discovered that openness and expressing what makes you feel uncomfortable helps in building the strength of the new one.
G how did you find out about the power of ARAK? To one's dilemma, it is better than 420, let me tell you. Yes, our shield to the sufferings of our failures and missteps are but hiding in the force of ARAK.

Thanks G. Makers and Jack Daniels do come in handy.
how did u become an Arak specialist?
My grand mother made them and it is the glue that raises up the cohesiveness of social attraction G.

The question is, how did you know about it? Perhaps an encounter with some beautiful Filipino women? And not too many of the Filipinos either as it is a pure product of the Ilocano tribe hailing from the North.
I don't know if I get this right LJ confused an ex is an ex to me and I don't have any contact with them (we don't have kids so there is no need to). No contact of himself to an ex either when we were together. dunno

Being able to talk to someone is essential. If I can't be open with someone I can't see myself starting something. But that's all easier said than done. hug
how do they produce it? from coconut palm?
KN I am with you. I have never had any contact with anyone that I have been with, with the exception of my last as he fathered three of my lovely children. But we divorced when our youngest was 20, so obligation wise, there is no need for me to communicate with him.

The scenario is this: a 7 year old child do need both parents to carry on the essential and legal obligations to fulfill their needed parenting, but I just feel that there is so much intimacy on the subjects of which they choose to talk about, which has nothing to do with molding the future of the child they connected to bring up to this world.

Where as there are many families I am aware of that all talks and communications are that, per required. Now I find it selfish for anyone to curtail such a direction of building up positive environment to this child, but for heaven's sake why even break up a connection. In my point of view, anything that might require involvement of this child to be cared of, should never make the new relationship feel left out. That is my take but maybe I am wrong and therefore let this new one die.
On the one hand, I believe that there is room for understanding and extend the courtesy of having the old flame flow as it should be. Maybe.
It is actually made out of a native plants (dry leaves, cook at a very specific heat and with a very specific pot and harvest the moist from the pot. A very time consuming and difficult process, G and that is why it is very expensive..But very effective I believe.
it should be the collected juice from the palm leaves, fermented and distilled.
widespread wherever coconut grows.
LJ I have experienced jealousy but when I was much younger, I believe it disappears as one gets older and have felt the pain it causes. I would never be jealous now, given the opportunity, I have learnt that it is ones own failure to recognise the needs of the other which makes the relationship fail.
Now I would give my partner more respect and trust that I give her no reason to mistrust me.
Very interesting post young lady thumbs up


bouquet
Spark, I read from Wikipedia, how the horrors of these trait can bury man alive if not checked.

I personally believe, it is alright to a certain point to be jealous. After all we are human beings whose core of existence is of our feelings and emotions. It is one of the strongest feelings we have and can trigger many a pain and sorrow if not directed properly. I do believe that a legitimate explanation by the one being accused of mistrust is needed to alleviate further damage on a relationship. Otherwise it is very unhealthy to be holding those sentiments deep inside without addressing it for the growth of the new love.

I am sure there is nobody spared from being in the state of jealousy but it can help create in establishing a strong foundation provided there is enough patience and trust to be reestablishedd on such a smear of the love-ing state.
I never was in a situation like this and would find it difficult as I don't have kids myself and would prefer someone in the same stage of life.

It is difficult for someone new and being able to talk about it with your partner is just necessary.

I have seen examples where parents don't work together and it's bad for the kids. Don't know really anyone who is chummy with their ex tbh.
I love you,too, my dear Wallops and yes your ideas are wonderful source of learning and in fact make us see things differently from many perspectives.

Thanks again.
Velsix, thanks much. You brought out one factor that affect our reactions to this trait. Age. So by then, we come to a point where we become more mature and in our maturity we do have the reason of knowing and or determining our strength to trust them that we love? Or is it in the recognition of the fact that we are old and therefore lack the luxury of our youth and time to keep fooling around and do everything to ensure our actions don't hurt the other?

I love that Velsix and for me, it works the same.
Me neither my friend, and this is why it is my fault. I take the responsibility that being with a younger man is to my disadvantage because of course, there is no more this call for a very sensitive area of raising a child with an ex, who constantly call your approval for anything she or he does. I do have reservations on the other things that is going on.

Yet, if I see it without being selfish, whatever makes the other happy, who am I to deny it? I am finding my way out.
I wouldn't say that it's because as one gets older one is less likely to 'fool around' or try to cover it up. I learnt, painfully' from my mistakes, not realising that I felt jealous when any other male took an interest in my wife was simply because of my own infidelity.
Jealousy is another interpretation of 'Possessiveness' too, 'she's mine and that's it' is the cause of so many break ups, no one 'Belongs' to anyone. Respect and understanding the feelings of each other and understanding the repercussions of ones actions before doing them.
I hope this makes sense, I know what I mean but then I'm getting on a bit, well that's my excuse....


bouquet
I don't know if this anyone's fault LJ, I was with a younger guy with a kid and there was as little communication as possible with his ex.

A lot of situations are different and everyone handles these things differently. A child will always come first and it can be difficult for everyone involved to create a situation which is fair.
Velsix, I am so glad with your presentation justifying the reasons why so, now, things are different.

I do learn that time, do provide us the important aspects of learning and adjusting to those we do fall in love with. Like I said, with my previous ex, I didn't ever experience any insecurity and or inferiority as I found out that he did so much to make sure I am the only one in his life. I believe it is the very conduct of those that we love more than those that are part of their past that make the dynamics of our jealousy alive and or strong.

Nevertheless, it is a very natural part of our life and when it does pose a threat to our peaceful connections, we must not leave unattended. Rather we should address it for purposes of understanding and if we keep doing things that hurt the other, then we become selfish and unmindful of the other's peace of mind.

I am not a jealous person, but lately I did feel very uncomfortable and injured and almost ran away as fast and as far as I can from whom, would have hurt me.
It truly is no one's fault my friend. We are either subject to our own incapability of understanding and no matter what the other do, may or may not make sense to us. We are all different of course, and our natural compositions do play very differently with others. Take our cultural beliefs, social values, mores and religious ways and boy don't we get thrown in a world of strange ideas?

Now it is important truly to adapt and learn and adjust and if we have hope of improving our relationship, so then it will grow and perhaps become strong and no matter what we do, will make our love happier and our connections will become an oasis of understanding, happiness and joys..I think..
I am a great friend of keeping things simple LJ. hole I met himself, got to know him, we got it together and in fairness, we had some great years. We did trust and rely on each other, shared a lot and had fun as well. I think compatibility, similar background, interests and stage in life is important. Just gets more difficult as we get older to find someone like that. dunno
Lyndsy I believe Jealousy is born out of Fear. Fear is the opposite of love but, Jealousy is a very very potent emotion and so painful,as has been said, it is cancerous and kills a relationship quicker than anything. However, there are things that a partner can do that actually feeds on the Jealousy and it can be a sort of control mechanism. For instance, for the first time in my life, my x partner [whom I loved dearly and who was my best friend] had a bad history of infidelity. He wasnot disloyal to me but he was always commenting at the beauty of other women. This sounds so pathethic, I feel embarrassed by it, but it was non-stop, he is an Artist and I myself never thought myself Jealous as I admire Beauty and will often remark to a friend or blogger that they are very good looking, to hear it nonstop from my partner became an isssue for me, he was always going on about film stars and actresses and I used feel inadequate as I didnot have 'work'' done on my face , nor botox, nor did I have the beautiful clothes that they have and I was angry at myself for being jealous and felt that I should have been more mature. In hindsight, he was playing mindgames. That , or he was just without savvy. It is ignorant and insensitive to keep going on about how attractive a man or woman is in a relationship. I realise this sounds very trivial but believe me, it became unbearable and I became low in my self esteem and for the first time ever... I actually felt jealousy, I am so embarrassed by this. Love is a powerful emotion and so is jealousy, I would hope never to experience this again, My self confidence and what I would put up with in a relationship has changed now since that affair ended so I dont think it would occur again.sad flower
Finding someone so compatible and love us the way we want to be loved is a very rare occurrence my friend. But we can definitely make our relationship grow like a plant. We have the obligation to learn and know what makes each other happy. Fine tuning our ways and being committed to make each other happy is a key to a happy life. I'm willing to do my part provided, both are in the same page.
It did happen in my long-term relationships, things just fell into place and in fairness, we both wanted to make each other happy. The question of commitment never even came up, it was just a given. This is something I find different these days. uh oh

As you said, both have to do their bit and be on the same page.
GG my beautiful friend. Now I am glad you're out of that poisonous relationship. It must have been so painful listening to those admiration expressed in front of your face.
Take care.
Thanks Lyndsay, yes self esteem can take a battering but if we learn from it.. I wouldnot tolerate it again, it was excessive, it didnot make me happy, was uneccessary and I believe a way of putting me down. The mark of a weak man. Great blog. thanks.hug
Another thing that we face as a very challenging situation is that now we're stepping into a new world with lots of baggage with us. This, too,makes it very difficult to any relationship.
I think to give something a chance, the past has to be kept out of a new relationship. I do think we are better at looking out for what we don't want and know what doesn't work for us and choose to not even go there in some instances. Also simples - less choice.
GG, it is important for the one we're with to occupy our best in making us feel, the best. Otherwise what for that they're with us. We can tell them how we feel and if they keep hurting us, best to run away as far as we can.
KN, self confidence is, also a very strong antidote to insecurities. The ability to leave and state why's the need to move on.

I always leave possibilities for my choices.
Its, empowering.
I think we become more selective, which means not as many choices or men... but quality rather than quantity, and its being happy being alone rather than waiting for a man to fill a void in our lives. Rather, hoping we meet a man to share our happiness and lives with. Yep, lessons have been learnt. KNenagh I agree, the past has to stay in the past in order to start afresh.
Indeed GG, I'm very much into being loved as never before than setting with reservations.
Economic reasons shouldn't be the reason for continuing a relationship. I never walked away easily, but I also never stayed because I couldn't look after myself.

It should be a choice for both people to stay and make something work.
Talking about the past is, I think a sign of not being over someone LJ.

Never give up GG, respect is something important in a relationship and I wonder how a guy would have liked a similar behaviour? I never was interested in looking at another guy when I was with someone.
lind
Good blog topic...I think jealousy is part of our emotions because of some insecurity either born within ourselves or brought upon us through conversation with the one you love...some people enjoy the act of making one jealous...and sometimes it is just you questioning your worth...as long as it doesn't come from a dark place...jealousy can be healthy in my opinion...I don't consider myself a jealous person but I am not immune to comments meant to damage my self worth...the more negative comments are made on behalf of a loved one...the more jealous you become...then it is time to question the health of the relationship...ending it becomes more clear to you if you take a look at who you have become in that relationship...never easy to leave but for your own psychological health it is something to consider...JMO...wine
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