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Nov 28, 2010 3:58 PM CST Tea Party Movement
g1ants1980
g1ants1980g1ants1980mesa, Arizona USA137 Posts
cherryrae: i think mccain is a good guy, and what he went through in vietnam was just harrowing. it is unfortunate he had palin beside him during the 2008 campaign. it really destroyed his credibility.

believe it or not, i also liked powell and rice aswell, and i see them as true conservatives with great integrity and honour.

their is an assumption out there that if you oppose the party 'status quo', then you must be completely against the party, and quite often castigated as a dissenter. in america, a country which is founded on individuals freedoms, i find this contrary to the foundations of that same liberty that is its backbone.


I have much respect for McCain(as he is my states senator) and I do find him to be one of the more "honest" politicians around. He did lose the more moderate base of the party during the election by nominating Palin. The issue with McCain more recently is that he seems to forget about being the "Maverick" of the senate now that conservatism is popular again. He recently ran against JD Hayworth(strong conservative) for senate. And he kinda just appeared disingenuis in his attempt to win against a conservative.
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Nov 28, 2010 4:00 PM CST Tea Party Movement
cherryrae
cherryraecherryraesydney, New South Wales Australia390 Posts
StressFree: Not all Tea Party supporters hold this view. Believe it or not, the Tea Party movement does have different tiers. Most of these rants are coming from conservatives from the South or Middle America. The idea of the Tea Party is to make sure the government respects and sustains the Constitution, and provide a self-governing system. A central government having power on all the States and citizens will NEVER work in America. u2Kitty, would you want the EU to dictate almost everything in Denmark?


if only this was the real truth about tea party, this debate would be null and void conversing
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Nov 28, 2010 4:08 PM CST Tea Party Movement
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
cherryrae: if only this was the real truth about tea party, this debate would be null and void


I'm waiting for you to find that real truth about Tea Partiers calling John Lewis racial slurs. I'm sure it's there somewhere?
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Nov 28, 2010 4:12 PM CST Tea Party Movement
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
johnaustin123: That was a very good post cherryrae:



Preview: George W. Bush on Tea Party Movement



But what is not pointed out is that for the last 8 years, nigh on 100% of the terrorists acts have been from muslims.
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Nov 28, 2010 4:17 PM CST Tea Party Movement
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
Congressional Black Caucus 3 20 2010 - original video

John Lewis walking through Tea party rally:


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Nov 28, 2010 4:24 PM CST Tea Party Movement
g1ants1980
g1ants1980g1ants1980mesa, Arizona USA137 Posts
johnaustin123: Congressional Black Caucus 3 20 2010 - original video

John Lewis walking through Tea party rally:



Ah, the infamous John Lewis video.

Personally I don't think ranting and raving like that helps to further anyones agenda.

Now as far as what was accused of happening there.......I don't think we'll ever know.
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Nov 28, 2010 4:29 PM CST Tea Party Movement
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
g1ants1980: Ah, the infamous John Lewis video.

Personally I don't think ranting and raving like that helps to further anyones agenda.

Now as far as what was accused of happening there.......I don't think we'll ever know.



Had they been spat upon, I tend to think there would be evidence.
I have an extremely had time believing that... Nor do I believe racial slurs were screamed. As earlier stated, there would be video/audio evidence.

What Mr. Lewis was trying to do was provoke the crowd, I do believe. You see the same thing done by the left. That doesn't excuse poor behavior though. The same goes for you, there's a $100,000 reward if you can come up w/evidence.

Our female poster can't seem to find anything. thumbs up
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Nov 28, 2010 4:37 PM CST Tea Party Movement
cherryrae
cherryraecherryraesydney, New South Wales Australia390 Posts
Steve5721: But what is not pointed out is that for the last 8 years, nigh on 100% of the terrorists acts have been from muslims.


did you read the link? only 6% of all terrorist attacks are committed by extremist muslims
conversing
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Nov 28, 2010 4:38 PM CST Tea Party Movement
cherryrae
cherryraecherryraesydney, New South Wales Australia390 Posts
Steve5721: To differentiate I would imagine.


i have a name
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Nov 28, 2010 4:39 PM CST Tea Party Movement
g1ants1980
g1ants1980g1ants1980mesa, Arizona USA137 Posts
cherryrae: i have a name


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 28, 2010 4:40 PM CST Tea Party Movement
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
cherryrae: did you read the link? only 6% of all terrorist attacks are committed by extremist muslims


Yes ma'am...I sure did and that data was for the last what..30 years or something like that?

Data for THIS decade will show one hell of a vast difference...I would be shocked if it was 100% in favour of muslims.
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Nov 28, 2010 4:40 PM CST Tea Party Movement
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
cherryrae: i have a name


No point in telling me!
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Nov 28, 2010 4:41 PM CST Tea Party Movement
cherryrae
cherryraecherryraesydney, New South Wales Australia390 Posts
Steve5721: No point in telling me!


sorry blushing
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Nov 28, 2010 4:43 PM CST Tea Party Movement
cherryrae
cherryraecherryraesydney, New South Wales Australia390 Posts
Steve5721: Yes ma'am...I sure did and that data was for the last what..30 years or something like that?

Data for THIS decade will show one hell of a vast difference...I would be shocked if it was 100% in favour of muslims.


if you have evidence instead of perspective i would be very interested to have a look
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Nov 28, 2010 4:45 PM CST Tea Party Movement
g1ants1980
g1ants1980g1ants1980mesa, Arizona USA137 Posts
cherryrae: buts its the lack of denunciation previous within stalwarts of the tea party that has us up in arms


I can understand that, but seeing as the tea party has no official leadership, im not sure who could come out and denounce it make you feel better.

The stigma around the tea party is that they are hillbillies/rednecks and not sure if that will ever change. Thats one reason why I distance myself from them even if i agree with them in principal.
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Nov 28, 2010 4:46 PM CST Tea Party Movement
cherryrae
cherryraecherryraesydney, New South Wales Australia390 Posts
johnaustin123: Congressional Black Caucus 3 20 2010 - original video

John Lewis walking through Tea party rally:




we really dont know what MAY have been shouted as they were walking through the earlier crowds of people. this does not say that it happened or didn't, just that unless you have a full perspective, no one can really knowconversing
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Nov 28, 2010 4:50 PM CST Tea Party Movement
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
cherryrae: if you have evidence instead of perspective i would be very interested to have a look


Evidence? Oh love, surely you can't be serious? 9/11, 7/7, Bali, Madrid, the Shoe Bomber,..the list is endless

Just scroll down and look at the list of terror acts in the alst TWO months.

Also, right at the bottom of the page are links to attacks since 2001.



Then in your own country:

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Nov 28, 2010 4:53 PM CST Tea Party Movement
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
Greetings Steve5721

Not only do I belong to the Tea Party, I'm a founder.

There were (4) of us that originally initiated The Tea Party.

Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Ron Paul and me (just an ordinary citizen).

My role is to make sure that there is no violence within The Tea Parties. It seems to be working. I've been in contact with the FBI so many times, that my head spins.

So far, the FBI has given us their blessing.
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Nov 28, 2010 4:56 PM CST Tea Party Movement
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
johnaustin123: Greetings Steve5721

Not only do I belong to the Tea Party, I'm a founder.

There were (4) of us that originally initiated The Tea Party.

Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Ron Paul and me (just an ordinary citizen).

My role is to make sure that there is no violence within The Tea Parties. It seems to be working. I've been in contact with the FBI so many times, that my head spins.

So far, the FBI has given us their blessing.


Still doesn't answer how you knew that guy was a member though..sorry!
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Nov 28, 2010 4:56 PM CST Tea Party Movement
JSuburbia
JSuburbiaJSuburbiaOrbisonia, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,518 Posts
johnaustin123: Greetings Steve5721

Not only do I belong to the Tea Party, I'm a founder.

There were (4) of us that originally initiated The Tea Party.

Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Ron Paul and me (just an ordinary citizen).

My role is to make sure that there is no violence within The Tea Parties. It seems to be working. I've been in contact with the FBI so many times, that my head spins.

So far, the FBI has given us their blessing.



I guess Koch Industries & Freedom Works are figments of imagination.roll eyes
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