Pixels1London, Greater London, England UK755 posts
AtwoZ: USA seems to work!!!Are you kidding?
Let´s look at Japan and compare it to Brazil,(no offense)
S.Korea vs.Nigeria
Finland vs.Haiti
Iceland vs.Kongo-Kinshasa
Yes let's look at Japan briefly. Japan has been a mostly law abiding society but that is changing as attitudes change among young people. I know large groups of 200+ Japanese youth have done exactly the same thing storming a department store shop lifting and then read the riot act in school assembly next day. Were these youths deprived? Were they influenced by a MS society? A: No.
Pixels1: Yes let's look at Japan briefly. Japan has been a mostly law abiding society but that is changing as attitudes change among young people. I know large groups of 200+ Japanese youth have done exactly the same thing storming a department store shop lifting and then read the riot act in school assembly next day. Were these youths deprived? Were they influenced by a MS society? A: No.
Michael Gove, the education secretary, has been on Channel 4 news. He says:
"I don’t think anyone could have anticipated the scale of criminality that we saw last night. It is vitally important in a conflict between right and wrong that we reinforce the forces of right.
I think officers behaved with amazed fortitude and resilience and courage.
There are more armoured vehicles in the police ready to be used and operational. There are 16000 officers on the streets of London tonight. They have mandate and a mission: to seek and to pursue. To provide all of those like me who are angry at what happened with the reassurance of knowing the Prime Minister is clear – these people are criminals and they need to be caught, prosecuted and jailed.
There will be time, there has to be time, for a proper examination of the factors that led to the violence. I have some evidence, but noone should jump readily to any conclusions. We’ve already seen people who’ve frankly rendered themselves foolish by saying they have an explanation for everything that’s been happening. There have been some people who’ve made facile connections between events which they claim have been driving this event, but we know those connections have been disproven by what’s been happening on the ground.
We know some of what’s been happening has been organised criminality driven by gangs and gang culture. We know there has been an embedded problem with gang culture in parts of the capital and other major cities for years now. The police have been attempting to break that and have been using more and more sophisticated techniques, but we also know some of the organised criminals are sophisticated themselves."
bodleingGreater Manchester, England UK13,810 posts
AtwoZ: Multiculti rocks!!!Why sighing?
Looking at the footage from Manchester and Salford from the bbc, those involve appear to be mainly white. It should be noted that many of those who have already appeared in court from the London riots are in their mid twenties and thirties, some with very respectable jobs. This can also be found with football hooligans also, to stereotype those involved except to say they are all criminals is to not have full understanding of the situation.
bodleing: Looking at the footage from Manchester and Salford from the bbc, those involve appear to be mainly white. It should be noted that many of those who have already appeared in court from the London riots are in their mid twenties and thirties, some with very respectable jobs. This can also be found with football hooligans also, to stereotype those involved except to say they are all criminals is to not have full understanding of the situation.
tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
EagleWoman: Michael Gove, the education secretary, has been on Channel 4 news. He says: "I don’t think anyone could have anticipated the scale of criminality that we saw last night. It is vitally important in a conflict between right and wrong that we reinforce the forces of right.
I think officers behaved with amazed fortitude and resilience and courage.
There are more armoured vehicles in the police ready to be used and operational. There are 16000 officers on the streets of London tonight. They have mandate and a mission: to seek and to pursue. To provide all of those like me who are angry at what happened with the reassurance of knowing the Prime Minister is clear – these people are criminals and they need to be caught, prosecuted and jailed.
There will be time, there has to be time, for a proper examination of the factors that led to the violence. I have some evidence, but noone should jump readily to any conclusions. We’ve already seen people who’ve frankly rendered themselves foolish by saying they have an explanation for everything that’s been happening. There have been some people who’ve made facile connections between events which they claim have been driving this event, but we know those connections have been disproven by what’s been happening on the ground.
We know some of what’s been happening has been organised criminality driven by gangs and gang culture. We know there has been an embedded problem with gang culture in parts of the capital and other major cities for years now. The police have been attempting to break that and have been using more and more sophisticated techniques, but we also know some of the organised criminals are sophisticated themselves."
Interesting information, the police are dealing with it efficiently. It's time this was stopped in it's tracks.
tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
grizzwald: I have not seen the news reports ...but by going by what I read here....Marshall Law ( if you have such) needs to be placed till order is restored....
I think the officers on the ground will make the right decisions.
tomcatwarne: They must have a plan, this should not be allowed to go on any longer, but the logistics must be dealt with.
Now birminhgham and wolverhampton are experiencing riots send the army in what are they doing to this country apart from making it a laughing stock to the watching world
Tomcats2: Now birminhgham and wolverhampton are experiencing riots send the army in what are they doing to this country apart from making it a laughing stock to the watching world
Looked at some photos and it looks like a war zone....yea time for the bigger boys to take control...
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Let´s look at Japan and compare it to Brazil,(no offense)
S.Korea vs.Nigeria
Finland vs.Haiti
Iceland vs.Kongo-Kinshasa
Yes let's look at Japan briefly. Japan has been a mostly law abiding society but that is changing as attitudes change among young people. I know large groups of 200+ Japanese youth have done exactly the same thing storming a department store shop lifting and then read the riot act in school assembly next day. Were these youths deprived? Were they influenced by a MS society? A: No.