riots in London ( Archived) (499)

Aug 9, 2011 1:37 PM CST riots in London
Pixels1
Pixels1Pixels1London, Greater London, England UK2 Threads 755 Posts
AtwoZ: USA seems to work!!!Are you kidding?

Let´s look at Japan and compare it to Brazil,(no offense)

S.Korea vs.Nigeria

Finland vs.Haiti

Iceland vs.Kongo-Kinshasa


Yes let's look at Japan briefly. Japan has been a mostly law abiding society but that is changing as attitudes change among young people. I know large groups of 200+ Japanese youth have done exactly the same thing storming a department store shop lifting and then read the riot act in school assembly next day. Were these youths deprived? Were they influenced by a MS society? A: No.
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Aug 9, 2011 1:40 PM CST riots in London
AtwoZ
AtwoZAtwoZunknown, Halland Sweden199 Threads 1,699 Posts
Pixels1: Yes let's look at Japan briefly. Japan has been a mostly law abiding society but that is changing as attitudes change among young people. I know large groups of 200+ Japanese youth have done exactly the same thing storming a department store shop lifting and then read the riot act in school assembly next day. Were these youths deprived? Were they influenced by a MS society? A: No.
Maybe not,but what made them do it?
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Aug 9, 2011 1:42 PM CST riots in London
grizzwald
grizzwaldgrizzwaldalexandra bay, New York USA12 Threads 1,151 Posts
AtwoZ: Maybe not,but what made them do it?
no one made them ....they choose to do so...dunno
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Aug 9, 2011 2:01 PM CST riots in London
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
Serious problems in Manchester right now, city centre cordoned off, Miss Selfridges store ablaze.


sigh
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Aug 9, 2011 2:03 PM CST riots in London
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
AtwoZ: Naah...just fooling around...


Oh so banning me from posting on your so called USA thread is another way of fooling around.


Just when are you going to admit that you are just another immigrant like the folk you hate so much. You know other immigrants like yourself???

grin cheers
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Aug 9, 2011 2:04 PM CST riots in London
AtwoZ
AtwoZAtwoZunknown, Halland Sweden199 Threads 1,699 Posts
bodleing: Serious problems in Manchester right now, city centre cordoned off, Miss Selfridges store ablaze.
Multiculti rocks!!!Why sighing?
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Aug 9, 2011 2:11 PM CST riots in London
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
Michael Gove, the education secretary, has been on Channel 4 news. He says:


"I don’t think anyone could have anticipated the scale of criminality that we saw last night. It is vitally important in a conflict between right and wrong that we reinforce the forces of right.

I think officers behaved with amazed fortitude and resilience and courage.

There are more armoured vehicles in the police ready to be used and operational. There are 16000 officers on the streets of London tonight. They have mandate and a mission: to seek and to pursue. To provide all of those like me who are angry at what happened with the reassurance of knowing the Prime Minister is clear – these people are criminals and they need to be caught, prosecuted and jailed.

There will be time, there has to be time, for a proper examination of the factors that led to the violence. I have some evidence, but noone should jump readily to any conclusions. We’ve already seen people who’ve frankly rendered themselves foolish by saying they have an explanation for everything that’s been happening. There have been some people who’ve made facile connections between events which they claim have been driving this event, but we know those connections have been disproven by what’s been happening on the ground.

We know some of what’s been happening has been organised criminality driven by gangs and gang culture. We know there has been an embedded problem with gang culture in parts of the capital and other major cities for years now. The police have been attempting to break that and have been using more and more sophisticated techniques, but we also know some of the organised criminals are sophisticated themselves."
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Aug 9, 2011 2:13 PM CST riots in London
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
bodleing: Serious problems in Manchester right now, city centre cordoned off, Miss Selfridges store ablaze.



Getting out off hand Bod, time to take the kid gloves off and get serious with these folk.

Just thugs stealing and looting. Sad really as we end up paying for it all in so many ways...sigh sigh
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Aug 9, 2011 2:13 PM CST riots in London
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
AtwoZ: Multiculti rocks!!!Why sighing?


Looking at the footage from Manchester and Salford from the bbc, those involve appear to be mainly white.
It should be noted that many of those who have already appeared in court from the London riots are in their mid twenties and thirties, some with very respectable jobs. This can also be found with football hooligans also, to stereotype those involved except to say they are all criminals is to not have full understanding of the situation.
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Aug 9, 2011 2:18 PM CST riots in London
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
Aug 9, 2011 2:18 PM CST riots in London
AtwoZ
AtwoZAtwoZunknown, Halland Sweden199 Threads 1,699 Posts
bodleing: Looking at the footage from Manchester and Salford from the bbc, those involve appear to be mainly white.
It should be noted that many of those who have already appeared in court from the London riots are in their mid twenties and thirties, some with very respectable jobs. This can also be found with football hooligans also, to stereotype those involved except to say they are all criminals is to not have full understanding of the situation.
Yepp,that´s what I meant,a MULTI culti society...
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Aug 9, 2011 2:24 PM CST riots in London
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
EagleWoman: Michael Gove, the education secretary, has been on Channel 4 news. He says: "I don’t think anyone could have anticipated the scale of criminality that we saw last night. It is vitally important in a conflict between right and wrong that we reinforce the forces of right.

I think officers behaved with amazed fortitude and resilience and courage.

There are more armoured vehicles in the police ready to be used and operational. There are 16000 officers on the streets of London tonight. They have mandate and a mission: to seek and to pursue. To provide all of those like me who are angry at what happened with the reassurance of knowing the Prime Minister is clear – these people are criminals and they need to be caught, prosecuted and jailed.

There will be time, there has to be time, for a proper examination of the factors that led to the violence. I have some evidence, but noone should jump readily to any conclusions. We’ve already seen people who’ve frankly rendered themselves foolish by saying they have an explanation for everything that’s been happening. There have been some people who’ve made facile connections between events which they claim have been driving this event, but we know those connections have been disproven by what’s been happening on the ground.

We know some of what’s been happening has been organised criminality driven by gangs and gang culture. We know there has been an embedded problem with gang culture in parts of the capital and other major cities for years now. The police have been attempting to break that and have been using more and more sophisticated techniques, but we also know some of the organised criminals are sophisticated themselves."



Interesting information, the police are dealing with it efficiently. It's time this was stopped in it's tracks.
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Aug 9, 2011 2:25 PM CST riots in London
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
EagleWoman: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8689355/London-riots-all-incidents-mapped-in-London-and-around-the-UK.html


Thanks for the feed,
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Aug 9, 2011 2:31 PM CST riots in London
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
This is a good page too ... it updates itself as events occur ...

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Aug 9, 2011 2:31 PM CST riots in London
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
grizzwald: I have not seen the news reports ...but by going by what I read here....Marshall Law ( if you have such) needs to be placed till order is restored....


I think the officers on the ground will make the right decisions.
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Aug 9, 2011 2:34 PM CST riots in London
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
tomcatwarne: I think the officers on the ground will make the right decisions.


Well right now in Manchester they are being outnumbered and outmaneuvered, they appear to be losing control.
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Aug 9, 2011 2:38 PM CST riots in London
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
bodleing: Well right now in Manchester they are being outnumbered and outmaneuvered, they appear to be losing control.



They must have a plan, this should not be allowed to go on any longer, but the logistics must be dealt with.
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Aug 9, 2011 2:42 PM CST riots in London
Tomcats2
Tomcats2Tomcats2Norwich, Norfolk, England UK81 Threads 9 Polls 2,249 Posts
tomcatwarne: They must have a plan, this should not be allowed to go on any longer, but the logistics must be dealt with.
Now birminhgham and wolverhampton are experiencing riots send the army in what are they doing to this country apart from making it a laughing stock to the watching world
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Aug 9, 2011 2:43 PM CST riots in London
outdoorgirlsun
outdoorgirlsunoutdoorgirlsunSapulpa, Oklahoma USA5 Threads 1,085 Posts
bodleing: It would appear that many insurance policies do not cover this sort of damage also.


You are right,it is not covered, Riot and civil commotion are excluded. So the business owners will have nothing. It's a sad state.
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Aug 9, 2011 2:45 PM CST riots in London
grizzwald
grizzwaldgrizzwaldalexandra bay, New York USA12 Threads 1,151 Posts
Tomcats2: Now birminhgham and wolverhampton are experiencing riots send the army in what are they doing to this country apart from making it a laughing stock to the watching world
Looked at some photos and it looks like a war zone....yea time for the bigger boys to take control...
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