riots in London (499)
grizzwaldalexandra bay, New York USA12 Threads 1,151 Postsoutdoorgirlsun: You are right,it is not covered, Riot and civil commotion are excluded. So the business owners will have nothing. It's a sad state.
well the ones arrested and found guilty should have to pay restitution for life if need be....------ This thread is Archived ------
tomcatwarne: They must have a plan, this should not be allowed to go on any longer, but the logistics must be dealt with.
Piccadilly Gardens in the city centre is now full of looters, shops and restaurants are being looted, an eyewitness says there is not a police officer in sight.
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bodleing: Piccadilly Gardens in the city centre is now full of looters, shops and restaurants are being looted, an eyewitness says there is not a police officer in sight.
Jeez Gra, what a sorry state of affairs for our country. Never thought I'd see the day that anarchy ruled. Makes me sick to my stomach.
Take care.
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Some info on the insurance issue
Britain’s biggest insurer, Norwich-based Aviva, said it had already started receiving claims for homes and businesses damaged in the disorder.
“It’s early days, we’ve seen a few claims coming through but it’s too early to talk about volume,” a spokesman said.
“This is obviously a distressing event for those affected by the events across the UK and our first priority is to help our customers as best and fast as we possibly can.
“Any damage caused by riots, civil commotion or malicious damage is covered as standard in commercial, household and motor policies, but we would urge anyone affected to get in touch with us as soon as possible.
“Once a claim has been notified we will appoint a loss adjustor or surveyor, who will visit the property to assess the damage, as soon as they are able to gain access to the area. Obviously safety is paramount and we wouldn’t advise any customer to enter their home or business until it is deemed completely safe.”
Nick Starling, director of general insurance at the Association of british Insurers, said:
“We have every sympathy for residents and business owners who have suffered damage to their properties.
“This is a time of enormous stress for them and their insurers will be on hand to answer any questions that they may have.
“Home insurance should cover people for fire, looting or damage caused. Many policies will also cover people for accommodation costs if they can’t stay in their home.
“Most commercial insurance policies will cover businesses for damage to their premises, including the interruption to their business as a result. Some policies will also cover those businesses which are not damaged, but whose trade is affected by the aftermath. It is important for people to contact their insurer to check what they are covered for and arrange for immediate help.
“Insurers are working as quickly as they can to deal with claims. However, access to dangerous buildings which are also crime scenes is a serious issue. It is too early for us to have an accurate picture of total costs, especially business interruption costs, but insurers are expecting significant losses, of at least £10s of millions.”
Britain’s biggest insurer, Norwich-based Aviva, said it had already started receiving claims for homes and businesses damaged in the disorder.
“It’s early days, we’ve seen a few claims coming through but it’s too early to talk about volume,” a spokesman said.
“This is obviously a distressing event for those affected by the events across the UK and our first priority is to help our customers as best and fast as we possibly can.
“Any damage caused by riots, civil commotion or malicious damage is covered as standard in commercial, household and motor policies, but we would urge anyone affected to get in touch with us as soon as possible.
“Once a claim has been notified we will appoint a loss adjustor or surveyor, who will visit the property to assess the damage, as soon as they are able to gain access to the area. Obviously safety is paramount and we wouldn’t advise any customer to enter their home or business until it is deemed completely safe.”
Nick Starling, director of general insurance at the Association of british Insurers, said:
“We have every sympathy for residents and business owners who have suffered damage to their properties.
“This is a time of enormous stress for them and their insurers will be on hand to answer any questions that they may have.
“Home insurance should cover people for fire, looting or damage caused. Many policies will also cover people for accommodation costs if they can’t stay in their home.
“Most commercial insurance policies will cover businesses for damage to their premises, including the interruption to their business as a result. Some policies will also cover those businesses which are not damaged, but whose trade is affected by the aftermath. It is important for people to contact their insurer to check what they are covered for and arrange for immediate help.
“Insurers are working as quickly as they can to deal with claims. However, access to dangerous buildings which are also crime scenes is a serious issue. It is too early for us to have an accurate picture of total costs, especially business interruption costs, but insurers are expecting significant losses, of at least £10s of millions.”
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Bring on the Gatling Guns then,what´s the damn problem....
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Hope everyone I know here is safe.
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bestbefore: Jeez Gra, what a sorry state of affairs for our country. Never thought I'd see the day that anarchy ruled. Makes me sick to my stomach.
Take care.
Take care.
It is indeed a sad state of affairs.
The police were fully aware that this was going to happen tonight, even my son had received emails telling him it was planned for this evening.
It would seem there are around half a dozen organised groups co-ordinated by 'leaders' directing them to various parts of the city. The police just cant keep up with them.
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And you´re the hosts of next yrs Summer Olympics...good luck...
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AtwoZ: Maybe not,but what made them do it?
In those cases, rebellion against school and same reason as wanting to let down the teachers' car tyres down but no actual damage and identifiable because they wore their school uniform lol. Listen to the news transcripts in London. 2 girls and one girl saying it was 'good' and 'did you get some wine and were you drinking all night ha ha' or people overhearing 'hey there's a JD Sports shop let's go and get some trainers'. It is similar to parties posted on facebook where a lot of people get to hear about it and turn up uninvited and trash the venue. JMO
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tomcatwarne: Some info on the insurance issueBritain’s biggest insurer, Norwich-based Aviva, said it had already started receiving claims for homes and businesses damaged in the disorder.
“It’s early days, we’ve seen a few claims coming through but it’s too early to talk about volume,” a spokesman said.
“This is obviously a distressing event for those affected by the events across the UK and our first priority is to help our customers as best and fast as we possibly can.
“Any damage caused by riots, civil commotion or malicious damage is covered as standard in commercial, household and motor policies, but we would urge anyone affected to get in touch with us as soon as possible.
“Once a claim has been notified we will appoint a loss adjustor or surveyor, who will visit the property to assess the damage, as soon as they are able to gain access to the area. Obviously safety is paramount and we wouldn’t advise any customer to enter their home or business until it is deemed completely safe.”
Nick Starling, director of general insurance at the Association of british Insurers, said:
“We have every sympathy for residents and business owners who have suffered damage to their properties.
“This is a time of enormous stress for them and their insurers will be on hand to answer any questions that they may have.
“Home insurance should cover people for fire, looting or damage caused. Many policies will also cover people for accommodation costs if they can’t stay in their home.
“Most commercial insurance policies will cover businesses for damage to their premises, including the interruption to their business as a result. Some policies will also cover those businesses which are not damaged, but whose trade is affected by the aftermath. It is important for people to contact their insurer to check what they are covered for and arrange for immediate help.
“Insurers are working as quickly as they can to deal with claims. However, access to dangerous buildings which are also crime scenes is a serious issue. It is too early for us to have an accurate picture of total costs, especially business interruption costs, but insurers are expecting significant losses, of at least £10s of millions.”
“It’s early days, we’ve seen a few claims coming through but it’s too early to talk about volume,” a spokesman said.
“This is obviously a distressing event for those affected by the events across the UK and our first priority is to help our customers as best and fast as we possibly can.
“Any damage caused by riots, civil commotion or malicious damage is covered as standard in commercial, household and motor policies, but we would urge anyone affected to get in touch with us as soon as possible.
“Once a claim has been notified we will appoint a loss adjustor or surveyor, who will visit the property to assess the damage, as soon as they are able to gain access to the area. Obviously safety is paramount and we wouldn’t advise any customer to enter their home or business until it is deemed completely safe.”
Nick Starling, director of general insurance at the Association of british Insurers, said:
“We have every sympathy for residents and business owners who have suffered damage to their properties.
“This is a time of enormous stress for them and their insurers will be on hand to answer any questions that they may have.
“Home insurance should cover people for fire, looting or damage caused. Many policies will also cover people for accommodation costs if they can’t stay in their home.
“Most commercial insurance policies will cover businesses for damage to their premises, including the interruption to their business as a result. Some policies will also cover those businesses which are not damaged, but whose trade is affected by the aftermath. It is important for people to contact their insurer to check what they are covered for and arrange for immediate help.
“Insurers are working as quickly as they can to deal with claims. However, access to dangerous buildings which are also crime scenes is a serious issue. It is too early for us to have an accurate picture of total costs, especially business interruption costs, but insurers are expecting significant losses, of at least £10s of millions.”
Excellent news!
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This looting is getting out of hand now!!!
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bodleing: This looting is getting out of hand now!!!
that s terrible bob.....what shall we do now......
...i think the coastal ack.ack should be informed........
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bodleing: This looting is getting out of hand now!!!
Must have been recruited to the riots by messenger pigeon!!------ This thread is Archived ------
In response to: Riots in London
....The riots appeared to have little unifying cause — though some involved claimed to oppose sharp government spending cuts, which will slash welfare payments and cut tens of thousands of public sector jobs through 2015.
But many appeared attracted simply by the opportunity for violence. "Come join the fun!" shouted one youth in the east London suburb of Hackney, where shops were attacked and cars torched. The crisis will be a major test of Prime Minister David Cameron's Conservative-led coalition government, which includes Liberal Democrats who had long suspected its program of harsh budget restraints could provoke popular dissent. Cameron cut short his summer vacation in Italy, rushing home for a crisis meeting Tuesday......
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islandgirl62: ....The riots appeared to have little unifying cause — though some involved claimed to oppose sharp government spending cuts, which will slash welfare payments and cut tens of thousands of public sector jobs through 2015.
But many appeared attracted simply by the opportunity for violence. "Come join the fun!" shouted one youth in the east London suburb of Hackney, where shops were attacked and cars torched. The crisis will be a major test of Prime Minister David Cameron's Conservative-led coalition government, which includes Liberal Democrats who had long suspected its program of harsh budget restraints could provoke popular dissent. Cameron cut short his summer vacation in Italy, rushing home for a crisis meeting Tuesday......
But many appeared attracted simply by the opportunity for violence. "Come join the fun!" shouted one youth in the east London suburb of Hackney, where shops were attacked and cars torched. The crisis will be a major test of Prime Minister David Cameron's Conservative-led coalition government, which includes Liberal Democrats who had long suspected its program of harsh budget restraints could provoke popular dissent. Cameron cut short his summer vacation in Italy, rushing home for a crisis meeting Tuesday......
A relatively quiet night last night in London at last
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bodleing: This looting is getting out of hand now!!!
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Hi ah
United Kingdom
British Prime Minister David Cameron says police are allowed to use whatever tactics they feel are necessary to control rioters around the country and put a stop to the continued violence.
about time...
Bodleing, I hope you keep well away and are safe... cheers..
United Kingdom
British Prime Minister David Cameron says police are allowed to use whatever tactics they feel are necessary to control rioters around the country and put a stop to the continued violence.
about time... Bodleing, I hope you keep well away and are safe... cheers..
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Here is someone who knows what he is talking about:
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Wow_Factor: Here is someone who knows what he is talking about:
Hi again Wow, I read this with interest and yes I have to say that what has been said is right on the button.
I still maintain that a lack of parental control is the key issue .
Just imagine if all the O.A.P.'s went on the rampage,because they too are living on a poverty line in some cases,and again many of their privileges are being removed via closure of Day Centres etc,etc.
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By Nick Cowen
Accurate predictions of riots are few and far between, but everyone has an opinion on what causes them once they have got started. In fact, the proximate causes of disorder can rarely be determined with any degree of certainty. They emerge almost out of nowhere. But they can spread like wild fires once they have been triggered. Cyclically, an outbreak of aggression makes potential offenders realise they are unlikely, as individuals, to get caught while the police are swamped. So they join in the looting and vandalism – thus making yet more potential offenders confident enough to have a go. Frighteningly, given the right context, a riot can almost become its own cause.
While innately unpredictable, there are a number of factors that can make outbreaks of disorder more probable. Unemployment hasn't been as bad as it could have been in the last year, but the UK has seen significant inflation. This isn't a party political issue – both current and previous governments had little choice but to rely on a highly expansionary monetary policy to get Britain through the recession. Wages haven't kept up with rising prices which means inflation represents a drop in real incomes. This is felt especially in poor areas. Disaffected youths in this context might decide to opt out of the labour market altogether; they are bored and on-hand to make trouble given the right trigger event. Even hot weather can contribute to an atmosphere conducive to an outbreak of disorder.
Accurate predictions of riots are few and far between, but everyone has an opinion on what causes them once they have got started. In fact, the proximate causes of disorder can rarely be determined with any degree of certainty. They emerge almost out of nowhere. But they can spread like wild fires once they have been triggered. Cyclically, an outbreak of aggression makes potential offenders realise they are unlikely, as individuals, to get caught while the police are swamped. So they join in the looting and vandalism – thus making yet more potential offenders confident enough to have a go. Frighteningly, given the right context, a riot can almost become its own cause.
While innately unpredictable, there are a number of factors that can make outbreaks of disorder more probable. Unemployment hasn't been as bad as it could have been in the last year, but the UK has seen significant inflation. This isn't a party political issue – both current and previous governments had little choice but to rely on a highly expansionary monetary policy to get Britain through the recession. Wages haven't kept up with rising prices which means inflation represents a drop in real incomes. This is felt especially in poor areas. Disaffected youths in this context might decide to opt out of the labour market altogether; they are bored and on-hand to make trouble given the right trigger event. Even hot weather can contribute to an atmosphere conducive to an outbreak of disorder.
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