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Sep 14, 2016 11:22 PM CST EDWARD SNOWDEN
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA271 Threads 26 Polls 4,631 Posts
The NSA whistleblower has asked President Obama for a pardon.

Do you think he should grant the pardon?
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Sep 14, 2016 11:48 PM CST EDWARD SNOWDEN
CapNemo
CapNemoCapNemoLongview, Texas USA6 Threads 599 Posts
Hell no
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Sep 14, 2016 11:56 PM CST EDWARD SNOWDEN
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Friskyone: The NSA whistleblower has asked President Obama for a pardon.

Do you think he should grant the pardon?


He should receive a full pardon if that is necessary for him to return to the USA. I ALSO think the U.S. Government should manufacture at least fifty statues of E. Snowden to be placed and displayed in each of the state's capital buildings.
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Sep 15, 2016 12:19 AM CST EDWARD SNOWDEN
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
and they should pay his salary to
he had to carry three computers to Hong Kong then take two of those to Moscow, then manage correctly and advise on international affairs in dealing with a very high level of corruption within Republican Party.

They should pay his wages and expensive in full cause he did a good job
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Sep 15, 2016 6:11 AM CST EDWARD SNOWDEN
The Spy Who Went Into The Cold!

Desk-Jockey playing Operative!
You can bet that the Chinese and Russians squeezed him dry like a Sponge,got things out of him he didn't even knew that he knew!
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Sep 15, 2016 6:14 AM CST EDWARD SNOWDEN
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
galrads: He should receive a full pardon if that is necessary for him to return to the USA. I ALSO think the U.S. Government should manufacture at least fifty statues of E. Snowden to be placed and displayed in each of the state's capital buildings.


Yes and start a school to teach other whistle blowerspeace
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Sep 15, 2016 6:16 AM CST EDWARD SNOWDEN
menu11
menu11menu11Galveston, Texas USA1,323 Posts
Edward Snowden is my Hero.thumbs up
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Sep 15, 2016 6:45 AM CST EDWARD SNOWDEN
thelad2007
thelad2007thelad2007Waterford, Ireland645 Posts
yess
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Sep 15, 2016 6:51 AM CST EDWARD SNOWDEN
MikeD12
MikeD12MikeD12Broadstairs, Kent, England UK16 Threads 2 Polls 2,809 Posts
Friskyone: The NSA whistleblower has asked President Obama for a pardon. Do you think he should grant the pardon?


Yes
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Sep 15, 2016 6:57 AM CST EDWARD SNOWDEN
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
For whom travels in realms of gainst yet in honour opens the clouds, to for all to see,that knows, It is such an overwhelming sharing.

That was wrong?
No pardon there.

That's politics.
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Sep 15, 2016 6:59 AM CST EDWARD SNOWDEN
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
Friskyone: The NSA whistleblower has asked President Obama for a pardon.

Do you think he should grant the pardon?


Absolutely yes!
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Sep 15, 2016 7:02 AM CST EDWARD SNOWDEN
Jimmy5IA
Jimmy5IAJimmy5IAWarrington, Cheshire, England UK59 Threads 2 Polls 1,013 Posts
Friskyone: The NSA whistleblower has asked President Obama for a pardon.

Do you think he should grant the pardon?

Is he a referee?
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Sep 15, 2016 7:33 AM CST EDWARD SNOWDEN
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,230 Posts
galrads: He should receive a full pardon if that is necessary for him to return to the USA. I ALSO think the U.S. Government should manufacture at least fifty statues of E. Snowden to be placed and displayed in each of the state's capital buildings.



If he returns to the USA he will be tried for treason.

There is a new movies called SNOWDEN. It is being said that Oliver Stone, the director of the movie, got a lot of things wrong in the details. But one thing he got right was that Snowden accidentally saw how the NSA was spying on USA citizens.

You can say he did the country a favor by telling us what the NSA did or you say he committed treason. I personally have no favor for anyone who commits treason so I say no pardon. He doesn't deserve it.
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Sep 15, 2016 8:04 AM CST EDWARD SNOWDEN
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
secretagent09: If he returns to the USA he will be tried for treason.

There is a new movies called SNOWDEN. It is being said that Oliver Stone, the director of the movie, got a lot of things wrong in the details. But one thing he got right was that Snowden accidentally saw how the NSA was spying on USA citizens.

You can say he did the country a favor by telling us what the NSA did or you say he committed treason. I personally have no favor for anyone who commits treason so I say no pardon. He doesn't deserve it.


For telling the truth.
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Sep 15, 2016 9:00 AM CST EDWARD SNOWDEN
MikeD12
MikeD12MikeD12Broadstairs, Kent, England UK16 Threads 2 Polls 2,809 Posts
Yes - Kelly told the truth about there being no WMD when Bush and Blair wanted war with Saddam regardless and was quietly "removed".
We were all told it was suicide. Anyone who has worked for the Civil Service at that level or the MoD will tell you NO WAY. He was "silenced" on the orders of B liar GCHQ the SIB the Israeli SS and London CIA Pentagoons in case he told the truth to a newspaper so I reckon Mossad who specialise like the KGB actually did the job and the poison used was hushed up.
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Sep 15, 2016 9:11 AM CST EDWARD SNOWDEN
AlanStagg
AlanStaggAlanStaggRangitikei, Manawatu-Wanganui New Zealand5 Threads 107 Posts
Friskyone: The NSA whistleblower has asked President Obama for a pardon.

Do you think he should grant the pardon?


Mmmmmm.....?

The question is, did Snowden disclose illegal acts? Did he disclose actions that were illegal under the laws of the U.S.A.? uh oh

Certainly he disclosed "classified" information, but classifying illegal acts, still doesn't make those acts legal. Disclosure in this case is no crime and is very much in the public interest imo.

If however, he disclosed "classified" information about perfectly legal, but maybe questionable acts, that would be a crime.

If the F.B.I. detective have evidence that he's committed a crime, then he should be charged and go to trial. Until that's done, a Presidential Pardon just isn't possible imo.

The solution as I see it idea, would be to allow Snowden to return to the U.S.A. and continue to live unshackled and as a free man, but to be subject to trial if evidence justifies that.


popcorn
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Sep 15, 2016 9:22 AM CST EDWARD SNOWDEN
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
Absolutely

And thanked for reminding people they are supposed to live in a free country.
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Sep 15, 2016 9:22 AM CST EDWARD SNOWDEN
Rumples
RumplesRumplesManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK592 Posts
On the one hand he's a criminal, on the other hand so was his victim - apart from the ones who were innocent. What he's done is popular and let's ignore the strings - there are always strings - and assert that the ends justify the means. Pardon him.
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Sep 15, 2016 9:29 AM CST EDWARD SNOWDEN
AlanStagg: Mmmmmm.....?

The question is, did Snowden disclose illegal acts? Did he disclose actions that were illegal under the laws of the U.S.A.?

Certainly he disclosed "classified" information, but classifying illegal acts, still doesn't make those acts legal. Disclosure in this case is no crime and is very much in the public interest imo.

If however, he disclosed "classified" information about perfectly legal, but maybe questionable acts, that would be a crime.

If the F.B.I. have evidence that he's committed a crime, then he should be charged and go to trial. Until that's done, a Presidential Pardon just isn't possible imo.

The solution as I see it , would be to allow Snowden to return to the U.S.A. and continue to live unshackled and as a free man, but to be subject to trial if evidence justifies that.


A presidential pardon may be granted at any time, however, and as when Ford pardoned Nixon, the pardoned person need not yet have been convicted or even formally charged with a crime. WIKI

The President's Power to Pardon: A Constitutional History

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Sep 15, 2016 9:32 AM CST EDWARD SNOWDEN
even if Obama pardoned him,and he'd return to the US,I doubt he would be secure in his person!
Several 'ALPHABET-Services' would definitely be gunning for him!
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