Aragorn11: But this is slightly different in that she is in charge of 8/9 year olds and her employer is the state/gov. I would have thought there would be some sort of dress code for teachers in their contract
I don't know if you are working Auntie but think back to your last job, or the one you are in. When you went on the interview did you dress for the environment of the job? Wouldn't that be the way you would continue to dress.
Do you think she wore a dress like that to her interview?
If this teacher dressed in jeans and a nice shirt or sweater I wouldn't have a problem with it because she will be with a classroom of crazy kinds and probably down on the floor picking up stuff they throw around. I doubt she does any bending in that dress.
Do people always have to be told what is right and what is wrong?
secretagent09: I don't know if you are working Auntie but think back to your last job, or the one you are in. When you went on the interview did you dress for the environment of the job? Wouldn't that be the way you would continue to dress.
Do you think she wore a dress like that to her interview?
If this teacher dressed in jeans and a nice shirt or sweater I wouldn't have a problem with it because she will be with a classroom of crazy kinds and probably down on the floor picking up stuff they throw around. I doubt she does any bending in that dress.
Do people always have to be told what is right and what is wrong?
I agree with you on this and I found an article that might be of interest.
"Are Staff Dress Codes Necessary?
Parents and school administrators sometimes have different views than their children's teachers about what is appropriate classroom attire. Clearly certain aspects of the job -- keeping up with active youngsters, overseeing messy art projects, going outdoors for recess -- support more relaxed dress requirements than professions such as banking or law. But views differ on how to strike the right balance between comfort and practicality, on the one hand, and professionalism and appropriateness, on the other. Some schools are adding staff dress codes to codify this balance."
"What Not to Wear
Whether your elementary school has a teachers' dress code or not, some clothing choices are never appropriate. T-shirts and sweats don't belong in the classroom, nor do shorts. Tight jeans or pants and short skirts are not appropriate, nor are sleeveless or skimpy tops or anything torn. Baring your midriff or showing too much skin is never OK. Newly minted young teachers must make what can be a difficult transition from the comfy, casual clothes they wore in college and the trendy, eye-catching styles they wear in social settings to add a third category of clothing to their wardrobe: tailored, perhaps more conservative attire in keeping with their new positions as professionals and role models for young children."
2intrigued: I agree with you on this and I found an article that might be of interest.
"Are Staff Dress Codes Necessary?
Parents and school administrators sometimes have different views than their children's teachers about what is appropriate classroom attire. Clearly certain aspects of the job -- keeping up with active youngsters, overseeing messy art projects, going outdoors for recess -- support more relaxed dress requirements than professions such as banking or law. But views differ on how to strike the right balance between comfort and practicality, on the one hand, and professionalism and appropriateness, on the other. Some schools are adding staff dress codes to codify this balance."
"What Not to Wear
Whether your elementary school has a teachers' dress code or not, some clothing choices are never appropriate. T-shirts and sweats don't belong in the classroom, nor do shorts. Tight jeans or pants and short skirts are not appropriate, nor are sleeveless or skimpy tops or anything torn. Baring your midriff or showing too much skin is never OK. Newly minted young teachers must make what can be a difficult transition from the comfy, casual clothes they wore in college and the trendy, eye-catching styles they wear in social settings to add a third category of clothing to their wardrobe: tailored, perhaps more conservative attire in keeping with their new positions as professionals and role models for young children."
Not having been in school grounds for many years, I have to say I've been astonished at the outfits I've seen teachers, particularly females, wearing since visiting my grandson's school over the past few years.
I thought the most recent buxom example was gonna fall right out of the top of that sheer summer dress
Ultra short skirts, low-cut skin-tight clothing and such are rarely acceptable in any workplace; schools should insist on suitable office-style attire for their employees also, I think
secretagent09: I don't know if you are working Auntie but think back to your last job, or the one you are in. When you went on the interview did you dress for the environment of the job? Wouldn't that be the way you would continue to dress.
Do you think she wore a dress like that to her interview?
If this teacher dressed in jeans and a nice shirt or sweater I wouldn't have a problem with it because she will be with a classroom of crazy kinds and probably down on the floor picking up stuff they throw around. I doubt she does any bending in that dress.
Do people always have to be told what is right and what is wrong?
Some people do. I had to bring a guy in and talk to him about his personal hygiene. His feet smelt disgusting and he had a serious BO problem. I have also had to talk to a lot of people about what was acceptable to wear and what wasn't. I think it's easier in the private sector to set standards whereas the public sector tend to be union dominated, hence my thought that there had to be some guidelines for teachers
Aragorn11: Some people do. I had to bring a guy in and talk to him about his personal hygiene. His feet smelt disgusting and he had a serious BO problem. I have also had to talk to a lot of people about what was acceptable to wear and what wasn't. I think it's easier in the private sector to set standards whereas the public sector tend to be union dominated, hence my thought that there had to be some guidelines for teachers
Now I understand why you asked about dress codes.
When I was young I worked for a company that had an office and the blue collar area. There was one guy who had bad body odor. He knew he had it and went to the doctor. The doctor said it was normal for his body because of something that wasn't working properly. He took several showers a day because he worked closely with other men.
I still don't think a teacher, executive or secretary needs to be told how to dress for work.
secretagent09: Now I understand why you asked about dress codes.
When I was young I worked for a company that had an office and the blue collar area. There was one guy who had bad body odor. He knew he had it and went to the doctor. The doctor said it was normal for his body because of something that wasn't working properly. He took several showers a day because he worked closely with other men.
I still don't think a teacher, executive or secretary needs to be told how to dress for work.
I think there is a dress code for the local school boards.
Wizardglick: I think there is a dress code for the local school boards.
It would make sense if there is. In my last job in the law office clerks were coming in with midriff shirts, toe sandals and short skirts. They had to write a dress code because clients came into the office and that would not make a good impression to wear a shirt where the tummy was hanging out.
secretagent09: It would make sense if there is. In my last job in the law office clerks were coming in with midriff shirts, toe sandals and short skirts. They had to write a dress code because clients came into the office and that would not make a good impression to wear a shirt where the tummy was hanging out.
And rightly so Especially with school age young children, teachers must adhere to the boards guidelines.
I haven't answered your question because I am conflicted about it, to be honest.
We all have our own ideas of what is appropriate or not, and there are industry norms.
But not too long ago, the industry norm forced women to wear skirts even in jobs where it was inappropriate.
Also, and I don't want to bring religion into this, but a lot of us oppose women being forced to cover themselves in Eastern culture. But can say we really say it is bad for them to impose that, and yet we complain about what a teacher wears? Technically, the dress she is wearing is up to her neck and below her knees. Yes, it shows off her amazing curves, but she is still covered and not showing much flesh etc.
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
I am aware than the Teacher's choice for dressing is not the best choice but it is not uncommon to see Teachers dressing that way in the public school system. Private schools do have a dress code and teachers follow it or they get fired.
How were the kids doing regarding to academic training-achievements? (In comparison to others kids same grade and perhaps same school)
Who complained about the teacher’s dressing choice? Her colleagues? Parents? Mothers?
If the teacher in question were a bit skinner she would look even better.
Wow, somethings never change. In 1970, I was in the first grade then and was bit of a hyperactive child, so during the teacher's reading-time to the class, I was required to sit directly in front of her on the floor with the rest of the class that were also sitting in a semicircle around her on the floor. I had to stay close to her, so she could keep an eye on me. As it turned-out, I also kept an eye on her too.
And as she read while sitting in a chair right in front of me, I had full view up her miniskirt, every day, day after day, looking up to the top of her nylon stocking top, where the color of the top was a bit darker than the rest of the stocking color... Never heard a word that she read, but weenie, being a young six year old hunk of meat, learned early to respond. Sat there rock-hard, dealing with it all till after her reading session was over, then asked to be excused to use the restroom to take care of myself, day after day.
Miniskirts were the fashion in those days. Every teacher wore miniskirts, and it was fashionable for women all-over the country to wear that style... I'm left with fond memories about it, with no regrets. And give credit to being able to have weenie control, due to those days.
IvoryguyCape Town, Western Cape South Africa139 posts
mollybaby: I haven't answered your question because I am conflicted about it, to be honest.
We all have our own ideas of what is appropriate or not, and there are industry norms.
But not too long ago, the industry norm forced women to wear skirts even in jobs where it was inappropriate.
Also, and I don't want to bring religion into this, but a lot of us oppose women being forced to cover themselves in Eastern culture. But can say we really say it is bad for them to impose that, and yet we complain about what a teacher wears? Technically, the dress she is wearing is up to her neck and below her knees. Yes, it shows off her amazing curves, but she is still covered and not showing much flesh etc.
As I say, I'm conflicted.
The dress is like something from the 1950s and, for 8/9 year olds, is not worth a second glance.
Perhaps the people who are moaning should move to the Middle East where women ere expected to wear black bags with eye slits, if they are allowed out of their harems.
Ivoryguy: The dress is like something from the 1950s and, for 8/9 year olds, is not worth a second glance. Perhaps the people who are moaning should move to the Middle East where women ere expected to wear black bags with eye slits, if they are allowed out of their harems.
My friend Sir Seymour Titsen-Legge, reckons some women on CS would look better if they wore a black bag with eyeslits over their face.
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I would have thought there would be some sort of dress code for teachers in their contract
I don't know if you are working Auntie but think back to your last job, or the one you are in. When you went on the interview did you dress for the environment of the job? Wouldn't that be the way you would continue to dress.
Do you think she wore a dress like that to her interview?
If this teacher dressed in jeans and a nice shirt or sweater I wouldn't have a problem with it because she will be with a classroom of crazy kinds and probably down on the floor picking up stuff they throw around. I doubt she does any bending in that dress.
Do people always have to be told what is right and what is wrong?