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Sep 12, 2017 12:37 PM CST Where's the international help
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
So, I've not heard of any other country offering their assistance with the Irma disaster yet. The USA folks are usually the first ones other countries expect to help them when a catastrophe happens to their country. Guess I should not surprised. USA first is a good idea.


What say you other nations?



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Sep 12, 2017 12:55 PM CST Where's the international help
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
galrads: So, I've not heard of any other country offering their assistance with the Irma disaster yet. The USA folks are usually the first ones other countries expect to help them when a catastrophe happens to their country. Guess I should not surprised. USA first is a good idea.


What say you other nations?



Didn't you hear the Royal Marines are in the Virgin Isles with the Royal Navylaugh
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Sep 12, 2017 1:48 PM CST Where's the international help
Sep 12, 2017 1:52 PM CST Where's the international help
MikeD12
MikeD12MikeD12Broadstairs, Kent, England UK16 Threads 2 Polls 2,809 Posts
aries1234: Didn't you hear the Royal Marines are in the Virgin Isles with the Royal Navy


I agree with all the critics - The Tory Government's delay in any Urgent response to sending our services to help has been dreadful given all the advance warnings.
Johnson's face speech & attitude on the news was typically sanctimonious bordering on contempt.
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Sep 12, 2017 1:52 PM CST Where's the international help
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
aries1234: Didn't you hear the Royal Marines are in the Virgin Isles with the Royal Navy





Isn't the Danish West Indies (virgins islands) part of Denmark?





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Sep 12, 2017 1:56 PM CST Where's the international help
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Len05: http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/40302/Orkaan-Irma/article/detail/3257004/2017/09/11/Orkaan-Irma-Belgie-maakt-1-miljoen-euro-noodhulp-vrij.dhtml

1 million euro.
mostly for the islands


what about help for all the people with old money that live in Florida year round because they can't afford to snow-bird it there in the winter. all the wasted casinos and trailer-home parks! what about the mosquitos and habitat in the Florida Keys... who you gonna call? .... dunno
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Sep 12, 2017 1:59 PM CST Where's the international help
MikeD12
MikeD12MikeD12Broadstairs, Kent, England UK16 Threads 2 Polls 2,809 Posts
galrads: Isn't the Danish West Indies (virgins islands) part of Denmark?


QED - Source- Wiki
The Virgin Islands are the western island group of the Leeward Islands, which are the northern part of the Lesser Antilles, and form the border between the Caribbean Sea and the Atlantic Ocean.
Politically, the group is divided into the British, American, and Spanish Virgin Islands.
The archipelago is separated from the Renaissance Islands by the Anegada Passage and from the main island of Puerto Rico by the Virgin Passage.

cheers
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Sep 12, 2017 2:07 PM CST Where's the international help
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
galrads: Isn't the Danish West Indies (virgins islands) part of Denmark?


British Virgin Islands
British Overseas Territory
The British Virgin Islands, part of a volcanic archipelago in the Caribbean, is a British overseas territory. Comprising 4 main islands and many smaller ones, it's known for its reef-lined beaches and as a yachting destination. The largest island, Tortola, is home to the capital, Road Town, and rainforest-filled Sage Mountain National Park. On Virgin Gorda island is the Baths, a labyrinth of beachside boulders.
Capital: Road Town
Dialing code: +1
Currency: United States Dollar
Capital and largest city: Road Town; 18°25.883'N 64°37.383'W? / ?18.431383°N 64.623050°W
Ethnic groups: 76.5% Black; 7% White; 5% Hispanic; 5% Multiracial; 2% East Indian; 4.5% Othera
Plan a trip
British Virgin Islands travel guide
3-star hotel averaging £153
17 h 30 min flight

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Sep 12, 2017 4:38 PM CST Where's the international help
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
aries1234: British Virgin Islands
British Overseas Territory
The British Virgin Islands, part of a volcanic archipelago in the Caribbean, is a British overseas territory. Comprising 4 main islands and many smaller ones, it's known for its reef-lined beaches and as a yachting destination. The largest island, Tortola, is home to the capital, Road Town, and rainforest-filled Sage Mountain National Park. On Virgin Gorda island is the Baths, a labyrinth of beachside boulders.
Capital: Road Town
Dialing code: +1
Currency: United States Dollar
Capital and largest city: Road Town; 18°25.883'N 64°37.383'W? / ?18.431383°N 64.623050°W
Ethnic groups: 76.5% Black; 7% White; 5% Hispanic; 5% Multiracial; 2% East Indian; 4.5% Othera
Plan a trip
British Virgin Islands travel guide
3-star hotel averaging £153
17 h 30 min flight

stupid punt




Tommy .... maybe we're thinking of different Virgin Islands...... i be googling and learning that the ones I'm thinking of were Danish Colonies and sold to the USA in about 1917. Can you dig it? wave


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Sep 12, 2017 4:41 PM CST Where's the international help
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
galrads: what about help for all the people with old money that live in Florida year round because they can't afford to snow-bird it there in the winter. all the wasted casinos and trailer-home parks! what about the mosquitos and habitat in the Florida Keys... who you gonna call? ....


Ok, I'll send money to set up a mosquito-rescue centre crying
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Sep 12, 2017 4:50 PM CST Where's the international help
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
mollybaby: Ok, I'll send money to set up a mosquito-rescue centre


They probably don't want money. Just send blood mollybaby...

laugh


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Sep 13, 2017 5:29 AM CST Where's the international help
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
galrads: So, I've not heard of any other country offering their assistance with the Irma disaster yet. The USA folks are usually the first ones other countries expect to help them when a catastrophe happens to their country. Guess I should not surprised. USA first is a good idea.


What say you other nations?


We know you left that British couple stranded when there was room left in the boat. You put Americans first and didn't put anybody second even when you so easily could.
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Sep 13, 2017 5:36 AM CST Where's the international help
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
ChesneyChrist: We know you left that British couple stranded when there was room left in the boat. You put Americans first and didn't put anybody second even when you so easily could.


If the British had any self-recockingspect our special relationship would be well and truly over, Judas.
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Sep 13, 2017 7:43 AM CST Where's the international help
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
I'd say that it's easily possible that some were taking notice of what Rush Limbaugh and others said about the actual risk having been ramped up and that others might well recall having had their offers of assistance refused after Katrina...it IS true "Fewer countries offer aid after Harvey than after Katrina"

" Worth noting: The vast majority of foreign Katrina aid was untouched, either unclaimed by the U.S. government or unused after it was received, per the Government Accountability Office. The U.S. collected $115 million of the $850 million that was pledged in foreign aid and spent $45 million of it. "
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So, there's still $70 million floating around from Katrina ... you might ask questions about that perhaps?

I'd also suggest that in general the news reporting fails to keep up with the pace at which aid offers are made and delivered.

It's also highly likely that some aid reports are being withheld by the US Main stream media so they can create spurious stories that other countries are dragging their heels to punish President Trump ... and perhaps there ARE Indeed some who feel less kindly to the USA just now

President Donald Trump seeks to fulfill his campaign promise to "put America first" in his proposed 2018 budget.

"This includes deep cuts to foreign aid," Trump said in his opening message to his proposed budget. "It is time to prioritize the security and well-being of Americans, and to ask the rest of the world to step up and pay its fair share."

His budget would slash funding for the State Department and U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) to $25.6 billion, down 28 percent from the current level. Although the budget doesn't specify how much USAID alone would lose, if enacted, these deep cuts would significantly disrupt America's ability to deliver foreign aid.


But hey, that's politics eh plays havoc with the lives of REAL PEOPLE?

Wishing you all well and glad to see from what I;ve seen that the US Govt is streets ahead in it's response to IRMA than it was after Katrina !
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Sep 13, 2017 8:00 AM CST Where's the international help
rizlared
rizlaredrizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
MikeD12: I agree with all the critics - The Tory Government's delay in any Urgent response to sending our services to help has been dreadful given all the advance warnings.
Johnson's face speech & attitude on the news was typically sanctimonious bordering on contempt.


Actually, I can tell you with absolute certainty, that certain Royal Naval vessels were given orders to change courses and head towards the Caribbean some days prior to the hurricane being made totally public, they were then told to stand fast and wait until a safe passage could be made, at the same time special supplies were flown out to the ships and readied for use as soon as they made land.

Don't believe all you see and hear on the TV Mike!!
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Sep 13, 2017 8:13 AM CST Where's the international help
Dedovix
DedovixDedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia12 Threads 1 Polls 5,492 Posts
galrads: So, I've not heard of any other country offering their assistance with the Irma disaster yet. The USA folks are usually the first ones other countries expect to help them when a catastrophe happens to their country. Guess I should not surprised. USA first is a good idea.


What say you other nations?

good point
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Sep 13, 2017 8:25 AM CST Where's the international help
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
rizlared: Actually, I can tell you with absolute certainty, that certain Royal Naval vessels were given orders to change courses and head towards the Caribbean some days prior to the hurricane being made totally public, they were then told to stand fast and wait until a safe passage could be made, at the same time special supplies were flown out to the ships and readied for use as soon as they made land.

Don't believe all you see and hear on the TV Mike!!



You are spot on rizlared. My nephew is in the U.S. Navy and stationed in the Caribbean. Most military was ordered to evacuate bases during the storm. My nephew had to stay because he is is military police (so he says). He was disappointed that the winds weren't more fun and entertaining......
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Sep 13, 2017 11:01 AM CST Where's the international help
SpaceRam
SpaceRamSpaceRamSan Vicente, Distrito Federal Argentina7 Threads 122 Posts
galrads: So, I've not heard of any other country offering their assistance with the Irma disaster yet. The USA folks are usually the first ones other countries expect to help them when a catastrophe happens to their country. Guess I should not surprised. USA first is a good idea.


What say you other nations?


It has already been sent.

In the form or prayers that is. banana
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Sep 13, 2017 11:50 AM CST Where's the international help
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
SpaceRam: It has already been sent.

In the form or prayers that is.


The British Government announced a further 25 Mil to the British Virgun Islands, as well as troops and supplies
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Sep 13, 2017 1:45 PM CST Where's the international help
MikeD12
MikeD12MikeD12Broadstairs, Kent, England UK16 Threads 2 Polls 2,809 Posts
rizlared: Actually, I can tell you with absolute certainty, that certain Royal Naval vessels were given orders to change courses and head towards the Caribbean some days prior to the hurricane being made totally public, they were then told to stand fast and wait until a safe passage could be made, at the same time special supplies were flown out to the ships and readied for use as soon as they made land.
Don't believe all you see and hear on the TV Mike!!


Maybe and with similar insider first hand knowledge that the Army & RAF were alerted and ready to go days in advance of the Hurriicane announcement on the Media, but were stifled and told to hold back by Politics via a MOD slack attitude to Logistics, Pen-pushing, the FO indecision to let them all get on with the job.
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