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Aug 1, 2011 6:48 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: The same thing have been done in America a hundred times or some thing you see? Definately not the first time and Recession costs money to remove totaly and this is the way running the economy any way and any where... unless... a Commi kind of governing like in China or some where and u do not like THAT I promise you




Oh I can just see it now Politicans 10 and my grandchildren etc a big fat 0
Aug 1, 2011 6:54 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Actractorguy: Borrowing more money (ie robbing peter to pay paul) is not fiscal responsibility. I truly feel sorry for my great great great grandkids.


A lot others have been feeling the exact same for their grand kids when Republican presidents one after the other did the EXACT same and even no Recession in America... what did you feel back then ? Cocoonised and and did not see or heard or even sensed a thing? idea rolling on the floor laughing
Aug 1, 2011 7:24 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: A lot others have been feeling the exact same for their grand kids when Republican presidents one after the other did the EXACT same and even no Recession in America... what did you feel back then ? Cocoonised and and did not see or heard or even sensed a thing?


And now, when a Democrat does it four times as bad it is far beyond anything seen before and, there isn't any chance of ever paying it back. Unlike when any Republican did it.professor
Aug 1, 2011 7:27 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Albertaghost: And now, when a Democrat does it four times as bad it is far beyond anything seen before and, there isn't any chance of ever paying it back. Unlike when any Republican did it.


Got to be kidding or have no got brigth lights on the economy what so ever ....

Who on Earth have paid GWB,s freaking ten trillion dollers back any way? rolling on the floor laughing
Aug 1, 2011 7:28 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Ccincy: Oh yes somemore debt for the generations after to pay off.


Not the frist time what so ever Cciny dunno
Aug 1, 2011 7:30 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Got to leave! May the Force be with you all professor
Aug 1, 2011 7:32 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Not the frist time what so ever Cciny


I'm pretty sure it won't be the last time either.
Aug 1, 2011 7:37 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Got to be kidding or have no got brigth lights on the economy what so ever ....

Who on Earth have paid GWB,s freaking ten trillion dollers back any way?


Wow your English is bad. Hope I understood you correctly in that you have done little research and view those who do as foolish. Is that correct?

Anyways, from NPR;

"Thus, Bush ran up an average of $410 billion in deficit spending per year, while Obama is running up an average of $1.413 trillion in deficit spending per year — or $1.003 trillion a year more than Bush."

Obama ran up double what Bush did Dude. Now, use your head for a moment, is it easier to pay back a large amount or twice that large amount?sad flower
Aug 1, 2011 7:38 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Not a wrod a bout this fabulous acheivment of Obama administration ?

rolling on the floor laughing
Aug 1, 2011 7:38 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Aug 1, 2011 7:39 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Wait until the lawsuits are filed over the constitutionality of the senate abdicating to a committee of 12.
Aug 1, 2011 7:41 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
Albertaghost: Wow your English is bad. Hope I understood you correctly in that you have done little research and view those who do as foolish. Is that correct?

Anyways, from NPR;

"Thus, Bush ran up an average of $410 billion in deficit spending per year, while Obama is running up an average of $1.413 trillion in deficit spending per year — or $1.003 trillion a year more than Bush."

Obama ran up double what Bush did Dude. Now, use your head for a moment, is it easier to pay back a large amount or twice that large amount?


Dude don't care. Like all those share the wealth clowns. It's not his so what does it matter. help moping
Aug 1, 2011 7:42 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
toranoga: Wait until the lawsuits are filed over the constitutionality of the senate abdicating to a committee of 12.


That should hit the Supreme Court In the morning. blues cheers
Aug 1, 2011 7:49 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Actractorguy: That should hit the Supreme Court In the morning.
cheers
Aug 1, 2011 7:55 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Actractorguy: Dude don't care. Like all those share the wealth clowns. It's not his so what does it matter.


Dude doesn't like facts. They screw up his rants.
Aug 1, 2011 9:59 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: And what the Heck are ur guys doing to fix the situation any way TT? Cutting funds, stopping cheques and then what? Let people die of hunger or gone criminal in order to get bread for their kids or some thing? Too many of ur own supporters are well and alive because of the same social security benefits and Medicare and Medicade America is helping her children with for god sake... and not a single one of those have EVER been created by the sad and mad Repubheads propoganda machine!

Your guys only solution sugestion is: "stop paying and they will find a job" ! Jobs from where exactly? Jobless are lazy rigth mister TT? All STUPID right wingers are saying this BS no matter any where on the entire planet we are talking a bout!

Your guys are so absolutely way of reality and way of understanding struggles of every day lives of millions of americans that it really hurts the got of any decent human beings from any where !

Point a finger on them, make fun of them, humiliate them, make them sturve, let them loose what ever they got , let them die of illness if they have no money having a health insurence, let them keep feared and take adventage of the mess and ship America,s money to Swiss accounts and call ur opposers anti american and non patritos and commies and spread your STUPID hatered on other countries on line and be a part of monster creation fear factory of the right winged moronistan of the planet of OZ and "endorse" a monster right winger mass mmurderer bozo that way ... GOP is the place where the STUPID is definately becoming "some body" all of a freaking sudden

I am Hot Single Dude and I did not meant mister general TT is specifichally or particulary responsibled for the dung of the dang GOP


Do it the way FDR originally designed it. With trust accounts that doesn got into the Government General Fund. Once the FICA rev....are in the General Fund they are subject to paying government debts.

So they would make these loans that accummulated to being 4.2t.

So ....just cut the 835b that FICA pays in....send to trust accounts that bear interest. There it is safe from the Congress. And avialable to pay pit the monthly social security checks.

Here is what is going to happen. Obama is going to sell the first step of debt. China will buy 35% of it. That goes into the General Fund. From the General Fund....they pay the interest on the 4.2t and the monthly social security.

So really Social Security today is living off the benevolence of the Chinese. It does not stand on it own feet. China decides it does not want to be so kind hearted, what then? You got a lot of senior living on the streets and applying for food stamps.
Aug 1, 2011 10:16 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
katt1017
katt1017katt1017Southern, New Hampshire USA67 Threads 10 Polls 1,384 Posts
ttom500: Do it the way FDR originally designed it. With trust accounts that doesn got into the Government General Fund. Once the FICA rev....are in the General Fund they are subject to paying government debts.

So they would make these loans that accummulated to being 4.2t.

So ....just cut the 835b that FICA pays in....send to trust accounts that bear interest. There it is safe from the Congress. And avialable to pay pit the monthly social security checks.

Here is what is going to happen. Obama is going to sell the first step of debt. China will buy 35% of it. That goes into the General Fund. From the General Fund....they pay the interest on the 4.2t and the monthly social security.

So really Social Security today is living off the benevolence of the Chinese. It does not stand on it own feet. China decides it does not want to be so kind hearted, what then? You got a lot of senior living on the streets and applying for food stamps.


IF there's any money left for food stamps or for that matter, food.

The left thinks the answer to everything is government. Make more regulations, develop more over blown bureaucracies and invoke government control deeper and deeper into peoples lives.

The state knows best so put on the chains and be free.
Aug 2, 2011 1:29 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Albertaghost: Wow your English is bad. Hope I understood you correctly in that you have done little research and view those who do as foolish. Is that correct?

Anyways, from NPR;

"Thus, Bush ran up an average of $410 billion in deficit spending per year, while Obama is running up an average of $1.413 trillion in deficit spending per year — or $1.003 trillion a year more than Bush."

Obama ran up double what Bush did Dude. Now, use your head for a moment, is it easier to pay back a large amount or twice that large amount?
Funny thing!
His English hasn't improved one Iota in three years,beyond the use of a few Slang-Terms,while others have improved by Leaps and Bounds!
Extremely weird!confused confused confused
Aug 2, 2011 6:22 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
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Aug 2, 2011 6:25 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Albertaghost: Dude doesn't like facts. They screw up his rants.
They screw up that Cauliflower in his Head!rolling on the floor laughing
Aug 2, 2011 6:32 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Hot_Single_Dude: And what the Heck are ur guys doing to fix the situation any way TT? Cutting funds, stopping cheques and then what? Let people die of hunger or gone criminal in order to get bread for their kids or some thing? Too many of ur own supporters are well and alive because of the same social security benefits and Medicare and Medicade America is helping her children with for god sake... and not a single one of those have EVER been created by the sad and mad Repubheads propoganda machine!

Your guys only solution sugestion is: "stop paying and they will find a job" ! Jobs from where exactly? Jobless are lazy rigth mister TT? All STUPID right wingers are saying this BS no matter any where on the entire planet we are talking a bout!

Your guys are so absolutely way of reality and way of understanding struggles of every day lives of millions of americans that it really hurts the got of any decent human beings from any where !

Point a finger on them, make fun of them, humiliate them, make them sturve, let them loose what ever they got , let them die of illness if they have no money having a health insurence, let them keep feared and take adventage of the mess and ship America,s money to Swiss accounts and call ur opposers anti american and non patritos and commies and spread your STUPID hatered on other countries on line and be a part of monster creation fear factory of the right winged moronistan of the planet of OZ and "endorse" a monster right winger mass mmurderer bozo that way ... GOP is the place where the STUPID is definately becoming "some body" all of a freaking sudden

I am Hot Single Dude and I did not meant mister general TT is specifichally or particulary responsibled for the dung of the dang GOP
That supposed to mean any thing particular?

Hot_Single_Dude: I am Hot Single Dude
Well,ain't that special,as the Churchlady used to say on SNL!rolling on the floor laughing
Aug 2, 2011 6:33 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Ccincy: I'm pretty sure it won't be the last time either.

Me neither...

Amercian way of life is fabulous! A lot huge buildings all over the place and huge molls and many cars and and more and people with no ability of paying much back a mounth abel ke loans any way and buying a boat or more for the heck of it and not becasue people even have time for usage of the boat... but still the same american way of life creates huge deficits and one government pushes it forward to the next one.

On surface every thing looks perfect and living in America if u got a job is pretty great... but deep inside borrwing for life is every where in US and in most other western countries as well... in America this same thing is a ten times more intensive than Europe I know.

Borrow now and let see what happens later on... not the best way of running a succesful economy when all counts and Obama administration takes care of the situation as it does because... demands of the nation are in that direction and people,s eager to get stuff is a part of the cultur.

Any american president trying to change this all and begining to talk a bout planning better, or not using more money than the country can afford will be named a damn communist and will not have many chances for even sitting one turm all way!

As told before... Scandinavian model for example is a mix of both and works pretty well and there have not been major problems regarding the economy for years and necessary regulations controlling the flow of money that way... Copying this model and using it in America is no option for now and America is too young country to accept or totaly understand accpetance of good parts of both ideologies and in that way avoiding major economical problems once in a while or avoiding major deficits year after year after year after year...
Aug 2, 2011 7:38 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
So what are other around the world saying about the US debt deal?

Victor Putin of Russia has special words for it. Saying that the US
is the "pirraha of the International community living off other nations with its debt and dollar".

Thank you, Victor. Let me pass that comment on the White House. Not that much of a reply would come from the POTUS. He might apologize for GWB invading Islamic countries. But a apologize for selling the US to foreign countries you will not hear.

And yes does Russia .....your "new Russia"....have holding in this pirranha of the international community? Yes it does. Much of your foreign holding are in the US. But of course in new Russia, you will invest in the Russian people. While sending billions of your petro rev to investments in the US. The Pirrahna thanks you. Can we nibble a little more on your left foot?

So what is this 'new Russia'? Well according to you. This is the rebuilding of Russia for the Russia people. You mean they will finally get fairly priced heating oil during the winter time to them? How nice of you. So Russia is going to start this massive building program all across Russia. Or is Russia just going to dress up Moscow and St. Petersburg with some more condo and villas for the Russian wealthy?

Somehow how I think that it is the later. We are talking about the country that has more yachts over 35foot in length than any other in the world, yes? But most of the Doctors in the country get less than $600 dollar month in salary. Russian democracy and capitolism at work there.laugh Please tell me how you qualify for a Yacht purchase on $600 on a month?grin Not even American boat makers will sell you a yacht for with that income.

This is the build for Mr. Putin run for the Russian Presidency many are saying. One has to wonder what his protege President Medvedev think of that. But Putin supposedly has a 70% approval rating in the country. Please note "supposedly"....no poll name was mention.

Someday, I would like to know the Russian why......why Russian troops stop 30 miles short of the Georgian Capitol. See I know the real reason. And it has lot to do with the Russian rich and those petro dollar investments in the US. From there I will let the reader figure it out.grin
Aug 2, 2011 8:21 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: So what are other around the world saying about the US debt deal?

Victor Putin of Russia has special words for it. Saying that the US
is the "pirraha of the International community living off other nations with its debt and dollar".

Thank you, Victor. Let me pass that comment on the White House. Not that much of a reply would come from the POTUS. He might apologize for GWB invading Islamic countries. But a apologize for selling the US to foreign countries you will not hear.

And yes does Russia .....your "new Russia"....have holding in this pirranha of the international community? Yes it does. Much of your foreign holding are in the US. But of course in new Russia, you will invest in the Russian people. While sending billions of your petro rev to investments in the US. The Pirrahna thanks you. Can we nibble a little more on your left foot?

So what is this 'new Russia'? Well according to you. This is the rebuilding of Russia for the Russia people. You mean they will finally get fairly priced heating oil during the winter time to them? How nice of you. So Russia is going to start this massive building program all across Russia. Or is Russia just going to dress up Moscow and St. Petersburg with some more condo and villas for the Russian wealthy?

Somehow how I think that it is the later. We are talking about the country that has more yachts over 35foot in length than any other in the world, yes? But most of the Doctors in the country get less than $600 dollar month in salary. Russian democracy and capitolism at work there. Please tell me how you qualify for a Yacht purchase on $600 on a month? Not even American boat makers will sell you a yacht for with that income.

This is the build for Mr. Putin run for the Russian Presidency many are saying. One has to wonder what his protege President Medvedev think of that. But Putin supposedly has a 70% approval rating in the country. Please note "supposedly"....no poll name was mention.

Someday, I would like to know the Russian why......why Russian troops stop 30 miles short of the Georgian Capitol. See I know the real reason. And it has lot to do with the Russian rich and those petro dollar investments in the US. From there I will let the reader figure it out.


It seems like Putin is going to become presidential candidate for sure. That is the reason why he is moving a lot now on days and is talking a bout national and international issues in order of creating even more attention around him. His chances are big and if going on and becoming candidate no body else in Russia can win over him. It also seems like the last real dictatorship of eastern Europe , Belarus is going to reconsiliate with Russia pretty soon becasue Belarus economy is really runied and Belarus can simply not survive all by it self... bad system, corrpution and suppression any where and so on...
Russia have been running on black economy like for ever and the whole thing stops the country developing more and in a positive direction but the country got a lot natural ressources and the whole economical situation of the country is not that bad any way... most russians beleive that Putin have been great for the russian economy and I beleive they are right concidering russian way of economy and how big problem corruption generally is in Russia.
Aug 2, 2011 9:25 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: It seems like Putin is going to become presidential candidate for sure. That is the reason why he is moving a lot now on days and is talking a bout national and international issues in order of creating even more attention around him. His chances are big and if going on and becoming candidate no body else in Russia can win over him. It also seems like the last real dictatorship of eastern Europe , Belarus is going to reconsiliate with Russia pretty soon becasue Belarus economy is really runied and Belarus can simply not survive all by it self... bad system, corrpution and suppression any where and so on...
Russia have been running on black economy like for ever and the whole thing stops the country developing more and in a positive direction but the country got a lot natural ressources and the whole economical situation of the country is not that bad any way... most russians beleive that Putin have been great for the russian economy and I beleive they are right concidering russian way of economy and how big problem corruption generally is in Russia.


Let us put some numbers to your thought that Victor Putina has been great for the Russian economy.

Russian unemployment in 1993............was 5.2% (it went form there to a high of 13.1 in 1999
1993...........was $3.5K
Russian GNP rate in 1993................was -15.0%
it from there to a peak in 2000 of 10%


Russian unemployment in 2011............is 7.5%
Russian per cap income in 2011..........is $15.1K US
Russian GNP rate in 2011.................is 4%

Russia has done a slow 20 year turn around. Sluggish at times, at best. Do you think that President Obama is using Russia as his model for economic recovery?

Numbers from the CIA fact book and World Bank country indicator
Russia best years since the break up were in 2000 and 2001.
Its GNP has risen dramatic in the last 10 years on petro dollars.
Funny how President Obama does not want the US to share in that wealth.
Aug 2, 2011 9:48 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
jaxfix
jaxfixjaxfixJacksonville, Florida USA1 Threads 5 Posts
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Walter
Aug 2, 2011 10:03 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Nancy Pelosi took a "Gutsy Position" on the debt vote in the House. That according sited article. Article went on to say that Nancy is no ideologue. She knew that she did not have the votes to stop the bill.

Well only 1/2 (95 votes) of the DEM voted for the bill. All the REP including the TEA Party voted for it. So what gives?

If you add 95 DEM (1/2 of the DEM caucus) with the 88 Tea Party at 183.
You short only 30 votes short of blockage. Had the Tea Party voted no, Nancy had the DEM in position to block the bill. After is was clear the Tea Party was block voting for the passage, she likely released them to vote for it.

But Nancy and liberal in Congress.....are unhappy. Unhappy that President Obama spends time with Boehener on the golf course and unhappy the President Obama gave position away to the REP. That he is not more sever with the REP.

Nancy delivered all the DEM needed for passage and not one more than she needed. They feel this debt bill is a REP win.

But the problem in Washington politics....the we vs they attitude instead of the WE, the People attitude.

Of Nancy's liberal caucus many come to public vote in 2012. 45-50 of the block on 95 that did vote nea on this bill will. A 2013 Congress with a new Tea Party and REP canidates filling those 45-50 seats, would sure make things easier for all concerned.

It is clear that these 95 don't support the President or the Country.
Even the Tea Party members eventually voted for the bill's passage for it was the right thing to do for the country. Rather they follow DEM dogma set out by Nancy Pelosi and other liberal thinkers.


Aug 2, 2011 10:31 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Another tail of lies and deceptions of the dang GOP and why looking at them trying to look "responsibled" ´was THE joke of this entire century :



rolling on the floor laughing
Aug 2, 2011 10:39 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Hot_Single_Dude: Another tail of lies and deceptions of the dang GOP and why looking at them trying to look "responsibled" ´was THE joke of this entire century :

rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Only one Joke in this Century,and he is presently sitting in the white House!
A Joke you normally don't tell in mixed Company!

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