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Aug 6, 2011 10:53 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
katt1017
katt1017katt1017Southern, New Hampshire USA67 Threads 10 Polls 1,384 Posts
mr1983: Smoke and mirrors!! It is a well known fact that Bush policy helped fuel the housing bubble!! As did bank deregulation and lax lending. Which Clinton and his repeal of the Glass-Steigaal Act have to answer for.
But Bush's "ownership society" failed!!



Then you should have no problem whatsoever providing that proof should you?

You will kindly notice I said "PROOF", not accusations, tear stained rages or allegations but, "PROOF".

Oh if you think you're going to get away with the sorry evasion of, "I'm busy look it up yourself", that's not going to fly with this kittah. I'll just accept that sort of nonsense as an admission you have NOTHING to back up your claim.
Aug 6, 2011 11:03 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
And so it seems (according to this poll) that 97% of those responding, disagree with the Dude...laugh
Aug 6, 2011 11:14 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
katt1017: Then you should have no problem whatsoever providing that proof should you?

You will kindly notice I said "PROOF", not accusations, tear stained rages or allegations but, "PROOF".

Oh if you think you're going to get away with the sorry evasion of, "I'm busy look it up yourself", that's not going to fly with this kittah. I'll just accept that sort of nonsense as an admission you have NOTHING to back up your claim.


Well it all comes down to Bush's "ownership society" policy.Attempts to pass federal legislation against predatory lending to protect borrowers from being placed in unnecessarily costly loans were opposed by the Bush administration and members of Congress. They feared that restrictions on lending would slow the rise of homeownership.In mid-2002, President Bush urged lenders to add 5.5 million minority homeowners by the end of the decade.
Government-sponsored mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac ensured that funds were consistently available to lending institutions. Under pressure from the Bush administration, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac increased their funding of mortgage loans to lower-income borrowers.
So the Bush administration helped inflate a RE bubble. They may have had good intentions but in the end they went to far!

Regarding Clinton and the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act, this allowed risky lending not seen since the twenties and thirties to resurface!
Aug 6, 2011 11:20 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
katt1017: Many people seem to want to be lied to. Otherwise why would they keep voting for the same lies and liars year after year after year?


One of my older brothers who's a Republican told me something simliar that some people don't really want an honest politican.That they enjoy liars and such.
Aug 6, 2011 11:21 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
katt1017: Then you should have no problem whatsoever providing that proof should you?

You will kindly notice I said "PROOF", not accusations, tear stained rages or allegations but, "PROOF".

Oh if you think you're going to get away with the sorry evasion of, "I'm busy look it up yourself", that's not going to fly with this kittah. I'll just accept that sort of nonsense as an admission you have NOTHING to back up your claim.


It is natural for Republicans to blame Clinton while Democrats will blame Bush. Both contributed. And Alan Greenspan presided over two asset bubbles also. I'm not sure if you could blame him but two asset bubbles!! And he was appointed by both democratic and republican presidents.
Aug 6, 2011 11:27 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Kattsrose
KattsroseKattsroseKind of near Portsmouth, NH, New Hampshire USA52 Threads 4 Polls 911 Posts
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Aug 7, 2011 12:01 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Kattsrose: ---


So your saying that because I post here in the political section, my name contains letters and numbers, and I have a certain political leaning that my profile is either fake or a duplicate? how do you come up with that assumption?
The letters in my name are my initials, the numbers 1983 is my birth year, I am from Ireland, and I'm sure that I don't have numerous accounts in order to makeup support for some of the things I believe in. I post in the political section because that is where i have an interest!
My God, the tea party and birther brigade really have ye gone nuts!!
Aug 7, 2011 12:17 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Kattsrose
KattsroseKattsroseKind of near Portsmouth, NH, New Hampshire USA52 Threads 4 Polls 911 Posts
mr1983: So your saying that because I post here in the political section, my name contains letters and numbers, and I have a certain political leaning that my profile is either fake or a duplicate? how do you come up with that assumption?
The letters in my name are my initials, the numbers 1983 is my birth year, I am from Ireland, and I'm sure that I don't have numerous accounts in order to makeup support for some of the things I believe in. I post in the political section because that is where i have an interest!
My God, the tea party and birther brigade really have ye gone nuts!!



And the proof for your allegations is where?

I see distraction but no proof offered of your previous statements.
Aug 7, 2011 12:34 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Kattsrose: And the proof for your allegations is where?

I see distraction but no proof offered of your previous statements.


I might not come up to your so called standards of proof but that doesn't really bother me. I have better things to do with my time than chat with someone who goes around accusing people of having fake or duplicate profiles because they have different views to them. People having a different view to me is one thing. People setting up threads and smirking and jeering behind peoples backs is another. You should really think about that for a while. You don't see me setting up threads about certain groups on here and slagging them off behind their backs. if i have an opinion on something I will debate it with them. The sneaky, narcissistic behaviour on the other hand is disgusting!
Aug 7, 2011 2:08 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
mr1983: I might not come up to your so called standards of proof but that doesn't really bother me. I have better things to do with my time than chat with someone who goes around accusing people of having fake or duplicate profiles because they have different views to them. People having a different view to me is one thing. People setting up threads and smirking and jeering behind peoples backs is another. You should really think about that for a while. You don't see me setting up threads about certain groups on here and slagging them off behind their backs. if i have an opinion on something I will debate it with them. The sneaky, narcissistic behaviour on the other hand is disgusting!
actually it is you making those constant little Jabs!
Are YOU upset now,I could ask,like you asked me earlier!laugh
Aug 7, 2011 2:15 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
mr1983: I'm not advocating massive tax burdens for companies. A fair tax burden would suffice. And leave tax incentives there for companies who invest in R&D and job creation.
Bush gave tax breaks to companies to set up overseas! How does this benefit people in the United States?
you forget one thing,Sunshine!
Bush has gone since 20th Jan. '09!
Actually two years before that,when the Democrats took over both Houses!
Which means he's been gone a near full Term,yet you Smarties still blame him for all the spending that present Lally in the WH is doing!rolling on the floor laughing
Aug 7, 2011 2:32 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Conrad73: actually it is you making those constant little Jabs!
Are YOU upset now,I could ask,like you asked me earlier!


I might differ with peoples opinion on this. And I might be sarcastic with them at times. But I respect them for who they are. I've even lost it completely once or twice with people. We all do.
But I don't try to belittle people and make them the butt of jokes. I don't start discussions on other threads accusing them of having fake or duplicate profiles. That is just sneaky!!
So I guess you could say I was upset and angry when I read the other thread! Would you be angry if you were in my position?
Aug 7, 2011 2:42 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
mr1983: I might differ with peoples opinion on this. And I might be sarcastic with them at times. But I respect them for who they are. I've even lost it completely once or twice with people. We all do.
But I don't try to belittle people and make them the butt of jokes. I don't start discussions on other threads accusing them of having fake or duplicate profiles. That is just sneaky!!
So I guess you could say I was upset and angry when I read the other thread! Would you be angry if you were in my position?
so you think someone accused you of Multiple Profiles?
Where is your proof?

confused


Why that reaction?confused


Actually it was just a general appraisal of what has been going on at this Site for some time!
Aug 7, 2011 2:45 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
mr1983: The class between working/lower class and upper class!
You still stuck pretty much in the Idea of "Klassenkampf"!
How come?
And if there is such a thing,have you ever really asked why it does exist?
Aug 7, 2011 2:54 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Conrad73: so you think someone accused you of Multiple Profiles?
Where is your proof?

Why that reaction? Actually it was just a general appraisal of what has been going on at this Site for some time!


The person who wrote the thread personally directed me to it using a duplicate profile of her own. Just reading her comments on that thread i could see that she was of the opinion that I was one of the people with a fake or duplicate profile. I ticked all the so called boxes!! One of the reasons put up was that some foreign people who were commenting on the political threads may have really been Americans with fake profiles. Just general stuff like that. And I was angry!! It was a bit of cyber bullying. I know it might have started of as just a joke or whatever but accusations like that aren't nice. My reaction was probably over-the-top but I've met people like that in life before and I don't like them.
Aug 7, 2011 3:13 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
mr1983: The person who wrote the thread personally directed me to it using a duplicate profile of her own. Just reading her comments on that thread i could see that she was of the opinion that I was one of the people with a fake or duplicate profile. I ticked all the so called boxes!! One of the reasons put up was that some foreign people who were commenting on the political threads may have really been Americans with fake profiles. Just general stuff like that. And I was angry!! It was a bit of cyber bullying. I know it might have started of as just a joke or whatever but accusations like that aren't nice. My reaction was probably over-the-top but I've met people like that in life before and I don't like them.
Actually those are two different Persons who live together!
You need to be quite careful making those Accusations!professor scold
Aug 7, 2011 3:46 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Conrad73: Actually those are two different Persons who live together!
You need to be quite careful making those Accusations!


OK I hold my hands up and admit I may have been wrong in saying it was the same person. but it doesn't get away from the fact that I was still directed to a thread in which accusations were been made against me and maybe other posters on here.
Believe me I wouldn't have minded so much if it was just said straight up to me. But that thread was up for a while and it was just maddening to think that someone was saying them things behind my back, having a great laugh, at the same time. There is ways to deal with people if its thought the profile is fake or a duplicate. But to ridicule people on a public forum can lead to accusations falling on the wrong people. So if i thought she was the same person, i apoligise for that. But it still doesn't excuse what happened on the other thread.
I have enemies who I respect for the simple reason they are upfront with me. But I don't like to be the butt of jokes and the object of sneering and false accusations behind my back. It shows a lack of spine! The "lets gather everyone together and sneer at someone" attitude. I might be a lot of things to certain people but I will always be upfront with them.
Aug 7, 2011 4:36 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
mr1983: Come on Tom. You are raving now!! He attempted to stave off the housing bubble!! This is nonsense.
And the wars you are on about. He started wars in two countries while introducing tax cuts. You call this a good policy. One of these wars was started pre-emptively, feeding the American people lies into the bargain. How many American soldiers have died because of these lies?
And you still insist that the recession and the housing foreclosures are Obamas fault. they are many peoples fault. Not Obamas. Check this up!
Back to the war. People tried to tie Bush's hands going into Iraq because they knew it was nonsense. 650,000 Iraqis dead. And all because of lies!! And you seem to think thats ok.
So We will look at TARP! Isn't it amazing how the free marketeers are never slow when they are coming up with more government run plans! Lemon socialism at its best.
But socialism is bad, isn't it TOM??


Mr here has become a 911 truther with statement like these. He just happen to forget the events of 911 which preceeded the GWB actions on Afghanistan. Then he also forget that GWB action on Iraq had a Congressional approval. Meaning it a it is ligitmate nation state war.

As for 650,000 Iraqi dead....the Iraqi government came out with a report that say 182,000 perished.

What I think is that bad things happen in war. Bad things happen under cruel dictators like Sadam Hussien as well. Obviously you would not mind a Iraq today that was run by Sadam, or his two sons, or their children, or their children, or their children, or their children....

Which is the same problem you have in Libya today. Qdaffi has set in place a long list of family members that will take over after he dies or leaves office. So the NATO air operation are ineffective against that kind of government transition. But boots on the ground can change it.....and have proved that in Iraq.
Aug 7, 2011 4:51 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
ttom500: Mr here has become a 911 truther with statement like these. He just happen to forget the events of 911 which preceeded the GWB actions on Afghanistan. Then he also forget that GWB action on Iraq had a Congressional approval. Meaning it a it is ligitmate nation state war.

As for 650,000 Iraqi dead....the Iraqi government came out with a report that say 182,000 perished.

What I think is that bad things happen in war. Bad things happen under cruel dictators like Sadam Hussien as well. Obviously you would not mind a Iraq today that was run by Sadam, or his two sons, or their children, or their children, or their children, or their children....

Which is the same problem you have in Libya today. Qdaffi has set in place a long list of family members that will take over after he dies or leaves office. So the NATO air operation are ineffective against that kind of government transition. But boots on the ground can change it.....and have proved that in Iraq.
Besides,Bill Clinton signed Iraq-Regime-Change into Law!laugh
Aug 7, 2011 6:44 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Class5
Class5Class5Skankytown, Queensland Australia4 Threads 1,010 Posts
mr1983: Government has become too big and complex.
And politicians not stupid! You should come to Ireland. I think you might change that view pretty quickly. How many times over here they were warned by numerous economists and organisations that what they were doing was reckless and dangerous is shocking to hear but all they done was ignore the experts.
We elect government to create the environment to help us achieve certain things. We do not expect them to help create bubbles and then inflate them for political gain purposes. We do not expect them to join in the mania of these bubbles. They are merely stewards of the economy and should not get involved for merely points scoring exercises. Yes they must protect the weak and vulnerable in our society by use of different policies. But they should never encourage reckless lending, reckless housing policy, and lax regulation.
When Bush set out on his idea of the "ownership society" I don't think he would have envisaged that there would be no increase in house ownership at the end of his term in office.
When Bertie Ahern here in Ireland brought in some crazy tax incentives for property developers over here, I don't think he understood the dangers that are inherent in this kind of policy.
So whether they are stupid I can't say? But they sure did make a hell of a lot of stupid decisions!


You don't really believe that policies are implemented on whim do you? Consultants and advisors are employed to investigate and implement policy. There are detractors and supporters and until implementation, the outcome is an uncertainty.

But I must admit that the Irish problem is unique in the political landscape and I find it difficult to comprehend how a nation with such a small population could find itself so deep in excrement. Perhaps they felt the boom would never end, or they were trying to maintain their position in the EU. Whatever the case, the GFC certainly ruined the plan.
Aug 7, 2011 7:15 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Sparky55: And so it seems (according to this poll) that 97% of those responding, disagree with the Dude...


Dude'S number are like the Obama ADminstration economic numbers.....grossly over or under inflated! grin
Aug 7, 2011 9:03 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Interesting!
Even Mainstream-Media is getting the Message!



Few Americans needed Standard & Poor to confirm the mismanagement of the United States government and its finances. The downgrading of American credit will raise interest rates on America’s huge debt and ultimately on all Americans. Popular polls say that most Americans blame Congress—but that’s too simplistic. As much as Barack Obama would like to shift that blame onto Congress, the fault lies squarely on the shoulders of President. It is first and foremost a leadership problem that is crippling America—and the leader is President Barack Obama—not the many members of Congress.

No matter how many speeches he makes, the conclusion is clear: Obama’s greatest failure is spending America into enormous deficits, and being clueless about how to get the economy to recover. His speeches, riddled with “I” and “We” are mostly serving to indict him for his failings. Appearing on TV more than any other sitting president, Barack Obama is constantly “explaining” why things aren’t working, when he should be working on what to do different and better.



Instead he is “campaigning,” which is the only thing he knows how to do reasonable well. But he can’t fix the economy; he has neither the experience nor the knowhow to do it. His failed, misguided policies have only exacerbated the size of his mistakes and shortcomings.........

Read more at the source
Aug 7, 2011 9:13 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Conrad73: Interesting!
Even Mainstream-Media is getting the Message!



Few Americans needed Standard & Poor to confirm the mismanagement of the United States government and its finances. The downgrading of American credit will raise interest rates on America’s huge debt and ultimately on all Americans. Popular polls say that most Americans blame Congress—but that’s too simplistic. As much as Barack Obama would like to shift that blame onto Congress, the fault lies squarely on the shoulders of President. It is first and foremost a leadership problem that is crippling America—and the leader is President Barack Obama—not the many members of Congress.

No matter how many speeches he makes, the conclusion is clear: Obama’s greatest failure is spending America into enormous deficits, and being clueless about how to get the economy to recover. His speeches, riddled with “I” and “We” are mostly serving to indict him for his failings. Appearing on TV more than any other sitting president, Barack Obama is constantly “explaining” why things aren’t working, when he should be working on what to do different and better.



Instead he is “campaigning,” which is the only thing he knows how to do reasonable well. But he can’t fix the economy; he has neither the experience nor the knowhow to do it. His failed, misguided policies have only exacerbated the size of his mistakes and shortcomings.........

Read more at the source
You find that Article on FORBES as well,since Yahoo usually pulls Stuff after a short time to save Server-Space.






Aug 7, 2011 9:14 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Hot_Single_Dude: Ladeis and gentelemen

One of the most disturbning events in today,s America which many human beings who beleive in free elections are thinking a bout now on days.... and actually began to worry a bout very seriosuly after GOP decided to make president Obama Fail no matter the cost... is all these GOP governers all over America who are fighting against the very foundation of free ellections in America and preventing America from ellecting politicians the majorities decide.

Republican governers all way from Winsconsin to Florida to Indiana and Arizona and Texas and any where with a GOP on charge... have made several new rules in order of preventing many voters of participation and even the excuse is preventing Fraud ... the reality is possibiliy of Fraud in american elections is not bigger than it is in most other free nations any ways, and then this fight of GOP against free elections seems being out of GOP Fear and out of their decision to win these 2012 elections doing what ever possible and destroying the very foundations of american democracy is no problem what so ever for GOP no more!


GOP with all it,s mumbo jumbo and claimes a bout being the party of the Brave and blah blah blah like that have definately gone Chicken and is trying to sneak a possible victory and shuve it self upon America by force one might think...

What is wrong GOP guys? You guys have Definately NOT got what it takes becoming really trust worthy or responsibled enough or having any real plans solving american issues and you guys even knowing this and that is why you try to stop majorities of America kicking U far a way form office by the power of votes... right?

Some GOP folks even want to change the very constitution of the United States of America and is talking a bout with holding the whole entire american economy as hostige unless a new GOP kind of constitution becoming reality in America... Is this not enough reason distancing one self from GOP and being absolutely concenrned and worried a bout what this movement have become in the middle of econiomcal crisis in America and on going wars where unity and responsibility should be the main concern?


Aug 7, 2011 10:20 AM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Conrad73: Good Luck and Happiness to both of you!
BTW,were you using the same Connection,or even the same Computer for both Accounts?
If you did,it would have looked to CS like a Dual-Account at the same IP!
Most likely that's why they deleted one Account!
Aug 7, 2011 4:50 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Class5: Well, that's a policy that would require some care. Raise company taxes too much and you'll see a fall in employment and philanthropy.

Kind of counter-productive wouldn't you say?


You do not have to raise Comapny taxes too much what so ever but fair way and make them pay more in taxes and remove too many loop holes and there will be more money that way taking care of the country,s problems. Counter-productive attempt it would be if raising taxes too much and no body is suggesting such measur what so ever.
Aug 7, 2011 4:54 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
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Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: 22 members of SEAL TEAM 6 were killed in a Helo accident or shoot down in Afghanistan yesterday. Reports of from 31 to 38 were killed as a Chinook crashed in Eastern Afghanistan.

The Taliban are taking credit for a shoot down. And the military is saying there was hostile action in the area. But it is unclear to the cause at this point.

7 of the dead were Afghan soldier and President Karzai is sending his condolences to President Obama for the American lost. No names of the Americna have been releases pending notice of families.

None of the 22 Seal Team 6 were part of the bin Laden raid. Seal teams have two or three mission groups. Seems that this was a different mission group. But unclear at thsi point, if a stealth helo was involved. For it was the same Army helo unit that lifted Seal Team 6 on the bin Laden raid.

God bless them all and comfort their families in this time of lose.


A really sad news moping

All respect from me for those american heroes lost in battle and for their families and loved ones sad flower
Aug 7, 2011 5:03 PM CST GOP knows that Obama will win a gain in 2012! GOP have gone chicken and knows that the battle is al
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