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ttom500: What is the matter with a balanced budget?
See here is what I think. I think that when you have a trillion+ dollar government...much of that trillion goes out the country. Never really stimulating this economy. Rather aiding, securing, feeding foreign parties. In other words a global kind of 'wealth redistribution.'
A very socialist and communistic concept from post WWII Russia and the WARSAW Pact. See with the debt ceiling....comes this massive foreign expenditure that President Obama hopes to make. Remember he authored the Millinium program for the UN. That surely was a global wealth redistribution.
It would be bad enough if the debt was all used here in the US. At least then you have American economic stimulus. But it will not be. Obama's wars in Afghanistan and Libya have to be paid for. Nation building in Iraq and Afghanistan. Global warning projects in China. Food and energy for NKorea. Payments interest and principle of the debt with China and Russia. On and on here...........
So much of this new debt will go over seas. Never really happening the economy here. The proof of that is...today's unemployment rate at 9.2%.
Anathema to Progressives!See here is what I think. I think that when you have a trillion+ dollar government...much of that trillion goes out the country. Never really stimulating this economy. Rather aiding, securing, feeding foreign parties. In other words a global kind of 'wealth redistribution.'
A very socialist and communistic concept from post WWII Russia and the WARSAW Pact. See with the debt ceiling....comes this massive foreign expenditure that President Obama hopes to make. Remember he authored the Millinium program for the UN. That surely was a global wealth redistribution.
It would be bad enough if the debt was all used here in the US. At least then you have American economic stimulus. But it will not be. Obama's wars in Afghanistan and Libya have to be paid for. Nation building in Iraq and Afghanistan. Global warning projects in China. Food and energy for NKorea. Payments interest and principle of the debt with China and Russia. On and on here...........
So much of this new debt will go over seas. Never really happening the economy here. The proof of that is...today's unemployment rate at 9.2%.
Their HOPE is that the Loot never runs out,but it seems that the POTUS-Head-Looter's Reckoning was off a bit!
Hot_Single_Dude: Another tail of lies and deceptions of the dang GOP and why looking at them trying to look "responsibled" ´was THE joke of this entire century :
That was back in the 90's dude. It's now 2011. Times have changed!
ttom500: Dude been walking backwards into the future, ever since November 4,2008.
but his DeLorean's flux capacitor is leaking Charge!
Hot_Single_Dude: Me neither...
Amercian way of life is fabulous! A lot huge buildings all over the place and huge molls and many cars and and more and people with no ability of paying much back a mounth abel ke loans any way and buying a boat or more for the heck of it and not becasue people even have time for usage of the boat... but still the same american way of life creates huge deficits and one government pushes it forward to the next one.
On surface every thing looks perfect and living in America if u got a job is pretty great... but deep inside borrwing for life is every where in US and in most other western countries as well... in America this same thing is a ten times more intensive than Europe I know.
Borrow now and let see what happens later on... not the best way of running a succesful economy when all counts and Obama administration takes care of the situation as it does because... demands of the nation are in that direction and people,s eager to get stuff is a part of the cultur.
Any american president trying to change this all and begining to talk a bout planning better, or not using more money than the country can afford will be named a damn communist and will not have many chances for even sitting one turm all way!
As told before... Scandinavian model for example is a mix of both and works pretty well and there have not been major problems regarding the economy for years and necessary regulations controlling the flow of money that way... Copying this model and using it in America is no option for now and America is too young country to accept or totaly understand accpetance of good parts of both ideologies and in that way avoiding major economical problems once in a while or avoiding major deficits year after year after year after year...
Amercian way of life is fabulous! A lot huge buildings all over the place and huge molls and many cars and and more and people with no ability of paying much back a mounth abel ke loans any way and buying a boat or more for the heck of it and not becasue people even have time for usage of the boat... but still the same american way of life creates huge deficits and one government pushes it forward to the next one.
On surface every thing looks perfect and living in America if u got a job is pretty great... but deep inside borrwing for life is every where in US and in most other western countries as well... in America this same thing is a ten times more intensive than Europe I know.
Borrow now and let see what happens later on... not the best way of running a succesful economy when all counts and Obama administration takes care of the situation as it does because... demands of the nation are in that direction and people,s eager to get stuff is a part of the cultur.
Any american president trying to change this all and begining to talk a bout planning better, or not using more money than the country can afford will be named a damn communist and will not have many chances for even sitting one turm all way!
As told before... Scandinavian model for example is a mix of both and works pretty well and there have not been major problems regarding the economy for years and necessary regulations controlling the flow of money that way... Copying this model and using it in America is no option for now and America is too young country to accept or totaly understand accpetance of good parts of both ideologies and in that way avoiding major economical problems once in a while or avoiding major deficits year after year after year after year...
LOL.... "borrowing deep down in American society"....Dude do you know how much that sounds like ..... far right Senator McCarthy statements of Communism in the 1950s? LOL.......................
Remember I said today's liberals are reactionary and status quo driven?
You just proved my point.
MCarthy for the younger CSer that are reading this...leada campaign of Cngressional Hearing into Coummunist that were int eh country. At a point were the Cold war was steaming.....that the atomic bomb sscrets had been given to Russia only a few years earlier. McCarthy being a investigation in left wing movements within the country. He cut a broad path thru the art of Hollywood and New York....dragging actors and writers into appear before his hearing.
Now dude talks like McCarthy did. That REP are attempting to fail President Obama government. LOL.........more DEMs voted against the
deficit bill than REP did in both the House. REP are burrowing into the deep recesses of America. We have a right to go anyplace we want to here. Except for classified local of the military and government.
I take a vacation to Dollywood, Hollywood, or Woodywood....I don't need Dude approval. Nor Washington's. I take a trip to to the beach, I find a secret service agent there taking down license plates numbers, I am not happy. They got other things to be doing.
Since we are on it. Guess who is now talking about going to Israeli like methods of passenger security inspections at airports? Yes, you got it. TSA and the Obama administration. I just heard it on the news yesterday.I guess they found the $7 per passenger charges were acceptable.
Great news!!!!!!!!!!
The market only fell 200 points after obummer's speech. Way to go Obummer. Wreck those 401k's
The market only fell 200 points after obummer's speech. Way to go Obummer. Wreck those 401k's
The Chinese have now spoken about the debt bill......
"failed to defuse the US Debt bomb" says the official China new agency
Xinhua. And that China will continue to divest herself of US dollar investments.
Interesting.
Maybe China will not buy the debt that approved under the debt bill. And that is a reason the markets are still falling.
Looks like China is not happy with the present US administration.
So what now? A little Chinese hokie pokie? Yes. Here is what happens. China has been buying the past us debt via China middle man investors. While the official position of the Chinese government is that it is divesting. Unless it gives order for them to halt trading, this is just geo political gaming on the Chinese part. So don't get your dander up. The Chinese will still buy the debt.
But for the second time.....China rating of US treasury note dropped again.
Dude...it just seems to me....that China wants the US to fail more than the REP do. REP signed on to the debt bill, remember?
So the Russians have us as a 'international pirrahna' and the Chinese have us as a'ticking time bomb' in the world of high finance. It is nice to be loved. With such stellar assessments of the United State, it is a wonder people give any credence to what the Chinese and Russian say.
"failed to defuse the US Debt bomb" says the official China new agency
Xinhua. And that China will continue to divest herself of US dollar investments.
Interesting.
Maybe China will not buy the debt that approved under the debt bill. And that is a reason the markets are still falling.
Looks like China is not happy with the present US administration.
So what now? A little Chinese hokie pokie? Yes. Here is what happens. China has been buying the past us debt via China middle man investors. While the official position of the Chinese government is that it is divesting. Unless it gives order for them to halt trading, this is just geo political gaming on the Chinese part. So don't get your dander up. The Chinese will still buy the debt.
But for the second time.....China rating of US treasury note dropped again.
Dude...it just seems to me....that China wants the US to fail more than the REP do. REP signed on to the debt bill, remember?
So the Russians have us as a 'international pirrahna' and the Chinese have us as a'ticking time bomb' in the world of high finance. It is nice to be loved. With such stellar assessments of the United State, it is a wonder people give any credence to what the Chinese and Russian say.
This is where international geo politic with Pakistan turn into looney tunes.
Pakistan can have 400 Taliban and alQeada base camps in the tribal regions for sending death, destruction and mayhem into Afghanistan.
Pakistan can have bin Laden in a military city sitting within in 5 miles of its version of West Point. That is almost walking distance for bin Laden to take courses there. Pakistan can explode over the bin Laden raid with anger at the US. Pakistan can turn the LET loose on India. Killing 167 in the Mumbia India attack.
But.............
Pakistani Islamic Terrorist getting caught in providing assistance to the terrorist attack in Western China that kills 11......will get the head of the ISI to China within 48 hours of the event.
To..............
Tell the Chinese that "We cannot allow Pakistani territory to be used
for any activity against any neighbor, especially a close ally like China."
Pakistan considers China....'a all weather ally'...while dear old America is sitting on the wall flower on far side of the globe.
As I said it is 'looney tunes' time in Central Asia.
What is the US then? Chopped liver? We have been giving Pakistan more aid and assistance than China has. Yet we got kids coming home in body bags from attacks by alQeada and the Taliban that base in Pakistan.
The Pakistani Government cannot offer a word of apology to the US? To India? To Afghanistan? To Europe? After literal 1000s have been killed
by their hosting of Islamic terrorists. China has 11 killed, and the Pakistani government is there in a heart beat to smooth things over and apologize.
As I said earlier the Chinese and Pakistan government relationship
is a close one. And Pakistan knows that China will handle Islamic terrorism a whole lot differently than the US does. It will be Pakistani coming home in body bags. A lot of them. China has crossed those borders into Pakistan and India several times in the past.
By the way....China is saying that the Pakistani government and country is chaotic as well. China does not like Chaotic. China may send troops in to solve Pakistani choatic nature. And it will not be a mere raid to get a terrorist leader. It will be lot longer than a 40 minutes. And whole allot more than a Navy Seal team.
I think that the Islamic terrorist in Pakistan....are writing a IOU that the country of Pakistan cannot pay. China will play rough, very rough to collect.
Pakistan can have 400 Taliban and alQeada base camps in the tribal regions for sending death, destruction and mayhem into Afghanistan.
Pakistan can have bin Laden in a military city sitting within in 5 miles of its version of West Point. That is almost walking distance for bin Laden to take courses there. Pakistan can explode over the bin Laden raid with anger at the US. Pakistan can turn the LET loose on India. Killing 167 in the Mumbia India attack.
But.............
Pakistani Islamic Terrorist getting caught in providing assistance to the terrorist attack in Western China that kills 11......will get the head of the ISI to China within 48 hours of the event.
To..............
Tell the Chinese that "We cannot allow Pakistani territory to be used
for any activity against any neighbor, especially a close ally like China."
Pakistan considers China....'a all weather ally'...while dear old America is sitting on the wall flower on far side of the globe.
As I said it is 'looney tunes' time in Central Asia.
What is the US then? Chopped liver? We have been giving Pakistan more aid and assistance than China has. Yet we got kids coming home in body bags from attacks by alQeada and the Taliban that base in Pakistan.
The Pakistani Government cannot offer a word of apology to the US? To India? To Afghanistan? To Europe? After literal 1000s have been killed
by their hosting of Islamic terrorists. China has 11 killed, and the Pakistani government is there in a heart beat to smooth things over and apologize.
As I said earlier the Chinese and Pakistan government relationship
is a close one. And Pakistan knows that China will handle Islamic terrorism a whole lot differently than the US does. It will be Pakistani coming home in body bags. A lot of them. China has crossed those borders into Pakistan and India several times in the past.
By the way....China is saying that the Pakistani government and country is chaotic as well. China does not like Chaotic. China may send troops in to solve Pakistani choatic nature. And it will not be a mere raid to get a terrorist leader. It will be lot longer than a 40 minutes. And whole allot more than a Navy Seal team.
I think that the Islamic terrorist in Pakistan....are writing a IOU that the country of Pakistan cannot pay. China will play rough, very rough to collect.
For all that post into this thread.....this is a have to see video by a US Marshal. He trained with US Secret Service agents that told him about how they were treated by by various different Presidents and White Houses.
If the click thru does not come up. Google it.
You ain't going to like it Dude.
Also read the comments to Wild Bill's video. This got people heated.
^feature=youtube_gdata_player
If the click thru does not come up. Google it.
You ain't going to like it Dude.
Also read the comments to Wild Bill's video. This got people heated.
^feature=youtube_gdata_player
ttom500: For all that post into this thread.....this is a have to see video by a US Marshal. He trained with US Secret Service agents that told him about how they were treated by by various different Presidents and White Houses.
If the click thru does not come up. Google it.
You ain't going to like it Dude.
Also read the comments to Wild Bill's video. This got people heated.
If the click thru does not come up. Google it.
You ain't going to like it Dude.
Also read the comments to Wild Bill's video. This got people heated.
opps
ttom500: opps
seems someone in Administration didn't like that Vid!
Long Arm of the White House!
Conrad73: seems someone in Administration didn't like that Vid!
Long Arm of the White House!
Long Arm of the White House!
I guess...Wild Bill goes after the present White House with both 6 guns a blazing. And he was not taking prisoners.
Right at the time of the debt bill being signed......72 financial, gov't, DoD and UN secure severers were hacked into.
MacCafee....reported the intrusions to various governments around the globe. All indications is that the hacking come from .............. ..............................China.
Government investigators are looking into the data of the hacking at present. They are calling it...the biggest security breach of all time.
But why would China want to hack these sites just as the debt bill is being signed?
Likely officials in these site are getting details of the bill and it impact to their organizations. So China wants to know .....say if DoD
cuts are going to be a drastic and Penatta is saying. Or if IMP is going to continue to get US funding under the new debt bill. Were are those cut and were is the debt increase going.
China wants to know all that info. So...hey why not just ask? China does not like to ask or wait for public discloser. China wants the insider information. That is why WTO organization should consider placing new restriction on China.
Also China wants the internatiponal community in crisis mode. Having your inside information hacked when a big deal going down does that.
It causes lose of confidence in the financial markets. China wants that.
But this is why China is a bad risk to do business with or to allow to purchase government debt. Would you continue to email someone that is hacking your computer? Not if you like privacy. And not to have your computer contents spread on the internet.
China continued intrusion into the world's secure and financial sites has to be disconcerning to the Obama administration. Here a debt deal was done and the President got a another blank check to fill out. Now China wants to alter the zeros and the payee. The payee suddenly become Chinese middle man firms. The zero much bigger than the debt ceiling increase.
Doing little for stimulating the American economy. But doing everything to stimulate the Chinese economy.
China did not make that statement that the American economy was a ticking bomb to the world's economy without having some ways to shorten the fuse. Chinese hacking is one of them.
Am wonder here if they (the Chinese) got Dude's bank aocount in Coopenhaggen? If Dude shows up at the US embassy seeking political asylum for political caused poverty. I vote we let him in. We
just make him go thru the 6 years process before he can vote. It is fair, you know Dude and is the law.
MacCafee....reported the intrusions to various governments around the globe. All indications is that the hacking come from .............. ..............................China.
Government investigators are looking into the data of the hacking at present. They are calling it...the biggest security breach of all time.
But why would China want to hack these sites just as the debt bill is being signed?
Likely officials in these site are getting details of the bill and it impact to their organizations. So China wants to know .....say if DoD
cuts are going to be a drastic and Penatta is saying. Or if IMP is going to continue to get US funding under the new debt bill. Were are those cut and were is the debt increase going.
China wants to know all that info. So...hey why not just ask? China does not like to ask or wait for public discloser. China wants the insider information. That is why WTO organization should consider placing new restriction on China.
Also China wants the internatiponal community in crisis mode. Having your inside information hacked when a big deal going down does that.
It causes lose of confidence in the financial markets. China wants that.
But this is why China is a bad risk to do business with or to allow to purchase government debt. Would you continue to email someone that is hacking your computer? Not if you like privacy. And not to have your computer contents spread on the internet.
China continued intrusion into the world's secure and financial sites has to be disconcerning to the Obama administration. Here a debt deal was done and the President got a another blank check to fill out. Now China wants to alter the zeros and the payee. The payee suddenly become Chinese middle man firms. The zero much bigger than the debt ceiling increase.
Doing little for stimulating the American economy. But doing everything to stimulate the Chinese economy.
China did not make that statement that the American economy was a ticking bomb to the world's economy without having some ways to shorten the fuse. Chinese hacking is one of them.
Am wonder here if they (the Chinese) got Dude's bank aocount in Coopenhaggen? If Dude shows up at the US embassy seeking political asylum for political caused poverty. I vote we let him in. We
just make him go thru the 6 years process before he can vote. It is fair, you know Dude and is the law.
ttom500: Right at the time of the debt bill being signed......72 financial, gov't, DoD and UN secure severers were hacked into.
MacCafee....reported the intrusions to various governments around the globe. All indications is that the hacking come from .............. ..............................China.
Government investigators are looking into the data of the hacking at present. They are calling it...the biggest security breach of all time.
But why would China want to hack these sites just as the debt bill is being signed?
Likely officials in these site are getting details of the bill and it impact to their organizations. So China wants to know .....say if DoD
cuts are going to be a drastic and Penatta is saying. Or if IMP is going to continue to get US funding under the new debt bill. Were are those cut and were is the debt increase going.
China wants to know all that info. So...hey why not just ask? China does not like to ask or wait for public discloser. China wants the insider information. That is why WTO organization should consider placing new restriction on China.
Also China wants the internatiponal community in crisis mode. Having your inside information hacked when a big deal going down does that.
It causes lose of confidence in the financial markets. China wants that.
But this is why China is a bad risk to do business with or to allow to purchase government debt. Would you continue to email someone that is hacking your computer? Not if you like privacy. And not to have your computer contents spread on the internet.
China continued intrusion into the world's secure and financial sites has to be disconcerning to the Obama administration. Here a debt deal was done and the President got a another blank check to fill out. Now China wants to alter the zeros and the payee. The payee suddenly become Chinese middle man firms. The zero much bigger than the debt ceiling increase.
Doing little for stimulating the American economy. But doing everything to stimulate the Chinese economy.
China did not make that statement that the American economy was a ticking bomb to the world's economy without having some ways to shorten the fuse. Chinese hacking is one of them.
Am wonder here if they (the Chinese) got Dude's bank aocount in Coopenhaggen? If Dude shows up at the US embassy seeking political asylum for political caused poverty. I vote we let him in. We
just make him go thru the 6 years process before he can vote. It is fair, you know Dude and is the law.
Double the Process as a Favor just for him!MacCafee....reported the intrusions to various governments around the globe. All indications is that the hacking come from .............. ..............................China.
Government investigators are looking into the data of the hacking at present. They are calling it...the biggest security breach of all time.
But why would China want to hack these sites just as the debt bill is being signed?
Likely officials in these site are getting details of the bill and it impact to their organizations. So China wants to know .....say if DoD
cuts are going to be a drastic and Penatta is saying. Or if IMP is going to continue to get US funding under the new debt bill. Were are those cut and were is the debt increase going.
China wants to know all that info. So...hey why not just ask? China does not like to ask or wait for public discloser. China wants the insider information. That is why WTO organization should consider placing new restriction on China.
Also China wants the internatiponal community in crisis mode. Having your inside information hacked when a big deal going down does that.
It causes lose of confidence in the financial markets. China wants that.
But this is why China is a bad risk to do business with or to allow to purchase government debt. Would you continue to email someone that is hacking your computer? Not if you like privacy. And not to have your computer contents spread on the internet.
China continued intrusion into the world's secure and financial sites has to be disconcerning to the Obama administration. Here a debt deal was done and the President got a another blank check to fill out. Now China wants to alter the zeros and the payee. The payee suddenly become Chinese middle man firms. The zero much bigger than the debt ceiling increase.
Doing little for stimulating the American economy. But doing everything to stimulate the Chinese economy.
China did not make that statement that the American economy was a ticking bomb to the world's economy without having some ways to shorten the fuse. Chinese hacking is one of them.
Am wonder here if they (the Chinese) got Dude's bank aocount in Coopenhaggen? If Dude shows up at the US embassy seeking political asylum for political caused poverty. I vote we let him in. We
just make him go thru the 6 years process before he can vote. It is fair, you know Dude and is the law.
Hot_Single_Dude: Another tail of lies and deceptions of the dang GOP and why looking at them trying to look "responsibled" ´was THE joke of this entire century :
This century is only 11 years old.
Rev. Al and his sidekick: (laurel and hardy)
And when you thought it couldn't get any worse under the "Obamaneys"
New Yorkers Fleeing State
Updated: Wednesday, 03 Aug 2011, 10:03 AM EDT
Published : Wednesday, 03 Aug 2011, 9:33 AM EDT
BY NEWSCORE
ALBANY, N.Y. - Taxed-out New Yorkers are voting with their feet, with a staggering 1.6 million residents fleeing the state over the last decade.
For the second consecutive decade, New York led the nation in the percentage of residents leaving for other states, according to the report by the Empire Center for State Policy.
The population loss is "the ultimate barometer of New York's attractiveness as a place to work, live and do business," the report's co-author, E.J. McMahon, said. "It's the ultimate indication that we've been doing things wrong."
Most analysts blamed New York's high taxes and skyrocketing cost of living for the mass exodus.
The Tax Foundation ranked New York highest in the nation in the combined state and local tax burden in 2008. And as small-business lobbyist Mike Durant noted, New York has also "consistently ranked worst or in the top three worst in business climate. You can't suck every penny out of people and expect them to remain in New York."
Since 1960, New York has lost 7.3 million residents to other states -- a net loss of 2.5 million people after adding in an influx of 4.8 million new immigrants, the study found.
Overall, the state's population grew by 2 percent between 2000 and 2010, but that rate that fell far behind states with lower taxes, growing economies and warmer climates like Nevada, Florida and Arizona, the three fastest-growing states, according to The New York Post .
New Yorkers Fleeing State
Updated: Wednesday, 03 Aug 2011, 10:03 AM EDT
Published : Wednesday, 03 Aug 2011, 9:33 AM EDT
BY NEWSCORE
ALBANY, N.Y. - Taxed-out New Yorkers are voting with their feet, with a staggering 1.6 million residents fleeing the state over the last decade.
For the second consecutive decade, New York led the nation in the percentage of residents leaving for other states, according to the report by the Empire Center for State Policy.
The population loss is "the ultimate barometer of New York's attractiveness as a place to work, live and do business," the report's co-author, E.J. McMahon, said. "It's the ultimate indication that we've been doing things wrong."
Most analysts blamed New York's high taxes and skyrocketing cost of living for the mass exodus.
The Tax Foundation ranked New York highest in the nation in the combined state and local tax burden in 2008. And as small-business lobbyist Mike Durant noted, New York has also "consistently ranked worst or in the top three worst in business climate. You can't suck every penny out of people and expect them to remain in New York."
Since 1960, New York has lost 7.3 million residents to other states -- a net loss of 2.5 million people after adding in an influx of 4.8 million new immigrants, the study found.
Overall, the state's population grew by 2 percent between 2000 and 2010, but that rate that fell far behind states with lower taxes, growing economies and warmer climates like Nevada, Florida and Arizona, the three fastest-growing states, according to The New York Post .
Hot_Single_Dude: Ladeis and gentelemen
One of the most disturbning events in today,s America which many human beings who beleive in free elections are thinking a bout now on days.... and actually began to worry a bout very seriosuly after GOP decided to make president Obama Fail no matter the cost... is all these GOP governers all over America who are fighting against the very foundation of free ellections in America and preventing America from ellecting politicians the majorities decide.
Republican governers all way from Winsconsin to Florida to Indiana and Arizona and Texas and any where with a GOP on charge... have made several new rules in order of preventing many voters of participation and even the excuse is preventing Fraud ... the reality is possibiliy of Fraud in american elections is not bigger than it is in most other free nations any ways, and then this fight of GOP against free elections seems being out of GOP Fear and out of their decision to win these 2012 elections doing what ever possible and destroying the very foundations of american democracy is no problem what so ever for GOP no more!
GOP with all it,s mumbo jumbo and claimes a bout being the party of the Brave and blah blah blah like that have definately gone Chicken and is trying to sneak a possible victory and shuve it self upon America by force one might think...
What is wrong GOP guys? You guys have Definately NOT got what it takes becoming really trust worthy or responsibled enough or having any real plans solving american issues and you guys even knowing this and that is why you try to stop majorities of America kicking U far a way form office by the power of votes... right?
Some GOP folks even want to change the very constitution of the United States of America and is talking a bout with holding the whole entire american economy as hostige unless a new GOP kind of constitution becoming reality in America... Is this not enough reason distancing one self from GOP and being absolutely concenrned and worried a bout what this movement have become in the middle of econiomcal crisis in America and on going wars where unity and responsibility should be the main concern?
One of the most disturbning events in today,s America which many human beings who beleive in free elections are thinking a bout now on days.... and actually began to worry a bout very seriosuly after GOP decided to make president Obama Fail no matter the cost... is all these GOP governers all over America who are fighting against the very foundation of free ellections in America and preventing America from ellecting politicians the majorities decide.
Republican governers all way from Winsconsin to Florida to Indiana and Arizona and Texas and any where with a GOP on charge... have made several new rules in order of preventing many voters of participation and even the excuse is preventing Fraud ... the reality is possibiliy of Fraud in american elections is not bigger than it is in most other free nations any ways, and then this fight of GOP against free elections seems being out of GOP Fear and out of their decision to win these 2012 elections doing what ever possible and destroying the very foundations of american democracy is no problem what so ever for GOP no more!
GOP with all it,s mumbo jumbo and claimes a bout being the party of the Brave and blah blah blah like that have definately gone Chicken and is trying to sneak a possible victory and shuve it self upon America by force one might think...
What is wrong GOP guys? You guys have Definately NOT got what it takes becoming really trust worthy or responsibled enough or having any real plans solving american issues and you guys even knowing this and that is why you try to stop majorities of America kicking U far a way form office by the power of votes... right?
Some GOP folks even want to change the very constitution of the United States of America and is talking a bout with holding the whole entire american economy as hostige unless a new GOP kind of constitution becoming reality in America... Is this not enough reason distancing one self from GOP and being absolutely concenrned and worried a bout what this movement have become in the middle of econiomcal crisis in America and on going wars where unity and responsibility should be the main concern?
I think with the Debt deal done....conservatives should sit back and watch how liberals treat the President. Why engage in the fray if the
opposition is attacking the President?
We can take the high road here. Defend the office and Democratic system. The Constitution and the country. While the liberal left that is seeing the President as mid road turn coat can do the slandering of him. Gesh they are being harder on Obama than on GWB.
Stewart, Maher, and others on the Left are calling him every :-)..........really we should just place their video in here and let Dude, Juan and others engage them. We don't have to wear out our computers and keyboards.
Good time to take a vacation. The REP primaries are beginning. The REP won the debt debate by such a margin, that the left is coughing and hacking at each other. We all know how good they are at finding fault.
We all know were that fault is going to find a home.
To Dude, Juan and others.....the question is.....do they join the left eviscerating the President? Or do they stay the course......and back him?
opposition is attacking the President?
We can take the high road here. Defend the office and Democratic system. The Constitution and the country. While the liberal left that is seeing the President as mid road turn coat can do the slandering of him. Gesh they are being harder on Obama than on GWB.
Stewart, Maher, and others on the Left are calling him every :-)..........really we should just place their video in here and let Dude, Juan and others engage them. We don't have to wear out our computers and keyboards.
Good time to take a vacation. The REP primaries are beginning. The REP won the debt debate by such a margin, that the left is coughing and hacking at each other. We all know how good they are at finding fault.
We all know were that fault is going to find a home.
To Dude, Juan and others.....the question is.....do they join the left eviscerating the President? Or do they stay the course......and back him?
Absolutely out of touch resutls of this poll I may say ... but still I am sure and more than sure that Republicans will NOT win the White house back already in 2012 and I am deifinate that they know this as well. Not even one of my polls have ever made it to the top list in here and this one did ... 
Have I told this before by the way???
OBAMA ROCKS! YES WE CAN!
Thanks to president Obama,s brave leadership and also thanks to most republicans last minute reason and responsibility... America did not go Defualt as teapublicans wanted to happen.
Teapublicans have shown that they do not care much a bout America,s benefits and beside they are not able to handle complicated issues regarding the whole country and it,s obligations.
Some Democrats and Republicans both voted against this but still ideological differences and rooster fights a bout not a dang thing... in America or else where are some times more important than any thing else for some folks,and I find this fact sad some how I may admit.
May this horrible periode of dumb threats regarding forcing America in Default for the first time in history becoming a learning lesson for american voters so majorities placing their precious votes with care and beside not allowing them selves removed of voting process because of Republican VIP,s all over the country who are deifinately scared of the power of democracy and the power of participation in free and fair elections.
Have I told this before by the way???
OBAMA ROCKS! YES WE CAN!
Thanks to president Obama,s brave leadership and also thanks to most republicans last minute reason and responsibility... America did not go Defualt as teapublicans wanted to happen.
Teapublicans have shown that they do not care much a bout America,s benefits and beside they are not able to handle complicated issues regarding the whole country and it,s obligations.
Some Democrats and Republicans both voted against this but still ideological differences and rooster fights a bout not a dang thing... in America or else where are some times more important than any thing else for some folks,and I find this fact sad some how I may admit.
May this horrible periode of dumb threats regarding forcing America in Default for the first time in history becoming a learning lesson for american voters so majorities placing their precious votes with care and beside not allowing them selves removed of voting process because of Republican VIP,s all over the country who are deifinately scared of the power of democracy and the power of participation in free and fair elections.
Three
Percent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Percent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Moon-Bat if I ever seen one!
Captian America is playing at the local theatre, Yes am going to go take it in and have some popcorn as the bad guys fall.
What got me....was in three countries.....Russia, China and another....they could not call the movie "Captain America". They, hollywood big wigs, still sent the movie out under s different name.
Suitible to the local market taste.
I say heck with that. If the Russians and Chinese cannot take a piece of Americana art with a American name on it. Then don't send it to them. Let them get the trailers of the movie off the net. Let them see a Captain America in their dreams.
But this Hollywood going for the big foreign markets and the big bucks they bring. They will stoop over for the Ruple and the Yuan, while pulling the name Captain America from the movie! What are these guys?
Americans? This Hollywood doing a bit of Americana censoring. And money grubbing.
I am going to see the movie.....but the popcorn will not taste as good.
What got me....was in three countries.....Russia, China and another....they could not call the movie "Captain America". They, hollywood big wigs, still sent the movie out under s different name.
Suitible to the local market taste.
I say heck with that. If the Russians and Chinese cannot take a piece of Americana art with a American name on it. Then don't send it to them. Let them get the trailers of the movie off the net. Let them see a Captain America in their dreams.
But this Hollywood going for the big foreign markets and the big bucks they bring. They will stoop over for the Ruple and the Yuan, while pulling the name Captain America from the movie! What are these guys?
Americans? This Hollywood doing a bit of Americana censoring. And money grubbing.
I am going to see the movie.....but the popcorn will not taste as good.
ttom500: Let us put some numbers to your thought that Victor Putina has been great for the Russian economy.
Russian unemployment in 1993............was 5.2% (it went form there to a high of 13.1 in 1999
1993...........was $3.5K
Russian GNP rate in 1993................was -15.0%
it from there to a peak in 2000 of 10%Russian unemployment in 2011............is 7.5%
Russian per cap income in 2011..........is $15.1K US
Russian GNP rate in 2011.................is 4%
Russia has done a slow 20 year turn around. Sluggish at times, at best. Do you think that President Obama is using Russia as his model for economic recovery?
Numbers from the CIA fact book and World Bank country indicator
Russia best years since the break up were in 2000 and 2001.
Its GNP has risen dramatic in the last 10 years on petro dollars.
Funny how President Obama does not want the US to share in that wealth.
Russian unemployment in 1993............was 5.2% (it went form there to a high of 13.1 in 1999
1993...........was $3.5K
Russian GNP rate in 1993................was -15.0%
it from there to a peak in 2000 of 10%Russian unemployment in 2011............is 7.5%
Russian per cap income in 2011..........is $15.1K US
Russian GNP rate in 2011.................is 4%
Russia has done a slow 20 year turn around. Sluggish at times, at best. Do you think that President Obama is using Russia as his model for economic recovery?
Numbers from the CIA fact book and World Bank country indicator
Russia best years since the break up were in 2000 and 2001.
Its GNP has risen dramatic in the last 10 years on petro dollars.
Funny how President Obama does not want the US to share in that wealth.
No TT... I am sure president Obama does not use the Russian model what so ever and that model can not be used in America what so ever. In Russia people say that natural ressources playing a major role and those few who are allowed to exploit those are also investing major time and creating more jobs and actually paying back to the regim as well in order to stay on business or else...
Corroption is a lot less now on days people say comapiring to the time of communism but still a lot more than it is in America or in other western countries and the whole economy is some how running on corrpution as well and that is why the model is not that useful for free countries with little or no corrpution like USA.
Still one thing we can learn even from russian economy is ability to save... russian and chineese as well are pretty good in svaing money for later on. a very cultural thing and some thing they just do no matter you are talking a bout a family or a bout the state... hard times through out history have learned these people saving for later on and in order to be sure having food on table until the next pay cheque is aviable. This behaviour is pretty interesting and good to admire some because you will almost never see huge economical problems in Russia or in China and both countries and India as well are pretty good not loaning much more than affordable. The whole thing looks more simple on the surface and not much luxury every where but still things going almost "all right" most times and development happening slowly but steady. Russia even not the best possible economy here and now, is investing billions in high spped trains as China does and wait and see how big economical boost these absolutely necessary investments will be for Russia in a bout 3-4 years from now.
I guess... there is always some thing good to learn from others no matter how clever or mighty one might be...
ttom500: Nancy Pelosi took a "Gutsy Position" on the debt vote in the House. That according sited article. Article went on to say that Nancy is no ideologue. She knew that she did not have the votes to stop the bill.
Well only 1/2 (95 votes) of the DEM voted for the bill. All the REP including the TEA Party voted for it. So what gives?
If you add 95 DEM (1/2 of the DEM caucus) with the 88 Tea Party at 183.
You short only 30 votes short of blockage. Had the Tea Party voted no, Nancy had the DEM in position to block the bill. After is was clear the Tea Party was block voting for the passage, she likely released them to vote for it.
But Nancy and liberal in Congress.....are unhappy. Unhappy that President Obama spends time with Boehener on the golf course and unhappy the President Obama gave position away to the REP. That he is not more sever with the REP.
Nancy delivered all the DEM needed for passage and not one more than she needed. They feel this debt bill is a REP win.
But the problem in Washington politics....the we vs they attitude instead of the WE, the People attitude.
Of Nancy's liberal caucus many come to public vote in 2012. 45-50 of the block on 95 that did vote nea on this bill will. A 2013 Congress with a new Tea Party and REP canidates filling those 45-50 seats, would sure make things easier for all concerned.
It is clear that these 95 don't support the President or the Country.
Even the Tea Party members eventually voted for the bill's passage for it was the right thing to do for the country. Rather they follow DEM dogma set out by Nancy Pelosi and other liberal thinkers.http://news.yahoo.com/pelosi-gutsy-stand-030800881.html
Well only 1/2 (95 votes) of the DEM voted for the bill. All the REP including the TEA Party voted for it. So what gives?
If you add 95 DEM (1/2 of the DEM caucus) with the 88 Tea Party at 183.
You short only 30 votes short of blockage. Had the Tea Party voted no, Nancy had the DEM in position to block the bill. After is was clear the Tea Party was block voting for the passage, she likely released them to vote for it.
But Nancy and liberal in Congress.....are unhappy. Unhappy that President Obama spends time with Boehener on the golf course and unhappy the President Obama gave position away to the REP. That he is not more sever with the REP.
Nancy delivered all the DEM needed for passage and not one more than she needed. They feel this debt bill is a REP win.
But the problem in Washington politics....the we vs they attitude instead of the WE, the People attitude.
Of Nancy's liberal caucus many come to public vote in 2012. 45-50 of the block on 95 that did vote nea on this bill will. A 2013 Congress with a new Tea Party and REP canidates filling those 45-50 seats, would sure make things easier for all concerned.
It is clear that these 95 don't support the President or the Country.
Even the Tea Party members eventually voted for the bill's passage for it was the right thing to do for the country. Rather they follow DEM dogma set out by Nancy Pelosi and other liberal thinkers.http://news.yahoo.com/pelosi-gutsy-stand-030800881.html
When Ze page doe snot exist TT... is it because you write an article and wanted it to be on Yahoo as a more real article but you are not allowed to post there?
ttom500: What is the matter with a balanced budget?
See here is what I think. I think that when you have a trillion+ dollar government...much of that trillion goes out the country. Never really stimulating this economy. Rather aiding, securing, feeding foreign parties. In other words a global kind of 'wealth redistribution.'
A very socialist and communistic concept from post WWII Russia and the WARSAW Pact. See with the debt ceiling....comes this massive foreign expenditure that President Obama hopes to make. Remember he authored the Millinium program for the UN. That surely was a global wealth redistribution.
It would be bad enough if the debt was all used here in the US. At least then you have American economic stimulus. But it will not be. Obama's wars in Afghanistan and Libya have to be paid for. Nation building in Iraq and Afghanistan. Global warning projects in China. Food and energy for NKorea. Payments interest and principle of the debt with China and Russia. On and on here...........
So much of this new debt will go over seas. Never really happening the economy here. The proof of that is...today's unemployment rate at 9.2%.
See here is what I think. I think that when you have a trillion+ dollar government...much of that trillion goes out the country. Never really stimulating this economy. Rather aiding, securing, feeding foreign parties. In other words a global kind of 'wealth redistribution.'
A very socialist and communistic concept from post WWII Russia and the WARSAW Pact. See with the debt ceiling....comes this massive foreign expenditure that President Obama hopes to make. Remember he authored the Millinium program for the UN. That surely was a global wealth redistribution.
It would be bad enough if the debt was all used here in the US. At least then you have American economic stimulus. But it will not be. Obama's wars in Afghanistan and Libya have to be paid for. Nation building in Iraq and Afghanistan. Global warning projects in China. Food and energy for NKorea. Payments interest and principle of the debt with China and Russia. On and on here...........
So much of this new debt will go over seas. Never really happening the economy here. The proof of that is...today's unemployment rate at 9.2%.
Actually unemployment rates have not moved for a while and have been 9,2 for a while... I guess this is positive some howand numbers could get even worse.
Likely the reason Obama signed the debt deal......if the effect it has on the budget of DoD. He lost on all the other major parts...taxing rich was bumped out, a balanced budget admendment was placed in, only two years 2013 on a two step debt increase.
But he did clobber DoD spending from 600b to 800b over the next decade.
Meaning? He had already cut DoD in the past three years....twice. For about 100b each time. This time he got many of it long term development programs and its long term force restructering programs.
The DoD budget ...not related to the cost of wars....is the single biggest budget in Washington. But it is a big employer in the country.
Companies with long term DoD contracts are looking at if these contracts are going to continue.
Right now.....Lockheed just laid off. And many others DoD contractors will soon start. From there the ripple effect thru the country's unemployment will continue to bump up the 9.2 unemployment rate.
President Obama just signed away his 2012 hopes by signing this debt bill.
DEM will talk it of turning the economy around.....but it ain't going to happen without Defense jobs.
Like I said fellows.....we did not need to do a thing.....
But he did clobber DoD spending from 600b to 800b over the next decade.
Meaning? He had already cut DoD in the past three years....twice. For about 100b each time. This time he got many of it long term development programs and its long term force restructering programs.
The DoD budget ...not related to the cost of wars....is the single biggest budget in Washington. But it is a big employer in the country.
Companies with long term DoD contracts are looking at if these contracts are going to continue.
Right now.....Lockheed just laid off. And many others DoD contractors will soon start. From there the ripple effect thru the country's unemployment will continue to bump up the 9.2 unemployment rate.
President Obama just signed away his 2012 hopes by signing this debt bill.
DEM will talk it of turning the economy around.....but it ain't going to happen without Defense jobs.
Like I said fellows.....we did not need to do a thing.....
Hot_Single_Dude: Actually unemployment rates have not moved for a while and have been 9,2 for a while... I guess this is positive some howand numbers could get even worse.
Wait till friday. They'll shoot up. (this isn't a game where the 1st one to reach 10 wins)
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What is the matter with a balanced budget?
See here is what I think. I think that when you have a trillion+ dollar government...much of that trillion goes out the country. Never really stimulating this economy. Rather aiding, securing, feeding foreign parties. In other words a global kind of 'wealth redistribution.'
A very socialist and communistic concept from post WWII Russia and the WARSAW Pact. See with the debt ceiling....comes this massive foreign expenditure that President Obama hopes to make. Remember he authored the Millinium program for the UN. That surely was a global wealth redistribution.
It would be bad enough if the debt was all used here in the US. At least then you have American economic stimulus. But it will not be. Obama's wars in Afghanistan and Libya have to be paid for. Nation building in Iraq and Afghanistan. Global warning projects in China. Food and energy for NKorea. Payments interest and principle of the debt with China and Russia. On and on here...........
So much of this new debt will go over seas. Never really happening the economy here. The proof of that is...today's unemployment rate at 9.2%.