Has modern Western society gone too far with political correctness? (89)
bodleing2: That's exactly right. Political correctness is about awareness...being aware of how our words affect others.
Can't agree with you there. Political Correctness is about preventing the truth and imposing a certain idealogy. Here in my country there is a certain minority who are engaged in crime and anti-social behaviour out of all proportion to their numbers. Because of PC we are not allowed to point out this fact and are forced to describe this minority simply as 'marginalised' or 'disadvantaged'.!
Thus PC suppresses the truth and prevents a realistic debate about this minority.
bodleing2: Indeed it often is, by people who allow themselves to be controlled and by those who think they can control. That's unawareness.
Ok that's why I won't allow myself to be influenced by it
snowlynx: Can't agree with you there. Political Correctness is about preventing the truth and imposing a certain idealogy. Here in my country there is a certain minority who are engaged in crime and anti-social behaviour out of all proportion to their numbers. Because of PC we are not allowed to point out this fact and are forced to describe this minority simply as 'marginalised' or 'disadvantaged'.!
Thus PC suppresses the truth and prevents a realistic debate about this minority.
Thus PC suppresses the truth and prevents a realistic debate about this minority.
Not sure I understand that. Who is doing the forcing, how do they stop you from stating the facts you mentioned and are they indeed marginalised or disadvantaged?
tomcatwarne: Political correctness is used as a means of control. and by controlling persons-
The arrest, trial and detention of Myra Hindley and Ian Brady was an issue of control by controlling people.
I suspect the difference is that you think its socially acceptable for their moral transgressions to be controlled, whilst you should be free to exploit your power against others with impunity.
Delatude: I think political correctness is burying your head in the sand to ignore the problems and hoping nothing bad will happen.
Or to protect the feelings of those that don't actually care.
2girlsnocup: Or to protect the feelings of those that don't actually care.
How do you know that people don't actually care?
jac379: How do you know that people don't actually care?
How do you know they do?
Did you do a count of everyone to find out? I can tell you that a majority of my gay friends wish there wasn't such a fuss about ensuring everything is PC to stop our liddle feelings getting hurt
2girlsnocup: That's America though. They also allow people to marry a horse and their cousins. Logical reasoning and America will never appear together in harmony.
The executions are down to religion, not anything to do with being PC or not. They're still living in the stone age and until they stop following their book of choice to the letter, they will never change. But, this isn't about religion. It's about being PC, so why you thought it was relevant, I don't know. Maybe to poison a thread?
I see you made the same typo as me, then again, I suspect it's just you being passive aggressively annoying.
The executions are down to religion, not anything to do with being PC or not. They're still living in the stone age and until they stop following their book of choice to the letter, they will never change. But, this isn't about religion. It's about being PC, so why you thought it was relevant, I don't know. Maybe to poison a thread?
I see you made the same typo as me, then again, I suspect it's just you being passive aggressively annoying.
This post is hysterical in its irony.
jac379: This post is hysterical in its irony.
bodleing2: Not sure I understand that. Who is doing the forcing, how do they stop you from stating the facts you mentioned and are they indeed marginalised or disadvantaged?
He's talking about Travellers. Or in your own vernacular, Pikeys. Or wrongly, Gypsies.
Its gone way to far its getting a little crazy!
"Religion is for those people afraid of going to hell. Spirituality is for those who have already been there."
Daniel1465: "Religion is for those people afraid of going to hell. Spirituality is for those who have already been there."
exactly how I see it!
Seems to me that while us little folk squabble about the various shades of what is Political Correctness in our individual economies and cultures,
Our Politicians and big shots are busy being Incorrect in matters of Wealth distribution and Human rights.
Our Politicians and big shots are busy being Incorrect in matters of Wealth distribution and Human rights.
Seems to me that while us little folk squabble about the various shades of what is Political Correctness in our individual economies and cultures,
Our Politicians and big shots are busy being Incorrect in matters of Wealth distribution and Human rights.
Political Correctness should begin with Politics
Our Politicians and big shots are busy being Incorrect in matters of Wealth distribution and Human rights.
Political Correctness should begin with Politics
You can circumvent this particular OCD by being offensive towards everything, which is what a lot of today's counterculture does.
... Human rights, sheesh. The World owes you NOTHING, privaleges maybe but rights, NO. Wealth distribution, what a farce, why is it alright to steal what someone has earned and give it to someone else, isn't that theft? ... People who work for a living are being overwhelmed by people who vote for a living ...
Obstinance_Works: You can circumvent this particular OCD by being offensive towards everything, which is what a lot of today's counterculture does.
And this makes perfect. Telling people to respect everything equally ultimately leads to people equally respecting nothing. The logical conclusion of equalising is to bring the great and the good down to the lowest elements by devaluing them - it's much easier to destroy and degrade than it is to create and improve. The end result is that this obsessive compulsion to treat everything as sacred means nothing is sacred amongst non-autistitards and cool people.
Watch family guy or south park or many of today's comedians like Russell Brand, or better yet, listen to much today's music and what you'll find is that they are offensive to everything.
Not that this state of affairs is good for civilisation, but at least it is free. It is the unsurpassed freedom of the nihilistic end time.
'Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society'~ Aristotle
It seems to me that the being offended has some how now become a right, that if you are offended by something, then surely everybody else has to be offended as well, the worst ones of the lot are the ones who get offended on your behalf, almost insisting that you have to be offended, just because they are.
And for all those who will watch what they consider an offensive programme on TV, turn it over or off, if you don't watch it, then falling viewing figures will ensure it is cancelled, don't sit there watching it getting more and more offended, you are just ensuring another damn series of the stuff.
Honestly, sometimes people are their own worst enemy.
And for all those who will watch what they consider an offensive programme on TV, turn it over or off, if you don't watch it, then falling viewing figures will ensure it is cancelled, don't sit there watching it getting more and more offended, you are just ensuring another damn series of the stuff.
Honestly, sometimes people are their own worst enemy.
MarsMan: It seems to me that the being offended has some how now become a right, that if you are offended by something, then surely everybody else has to be offended as well, the worst ones of the lot are the ones who get offended on your behalf, almost insisting that you have to be offended, just because they are.
And for all those who will watch what they consider an offensive programme on TV, turn it over or off, if you don't watch it, then falling viewing figures will ensure it is cancelled, don't sit there watching it getting more and more offended, you are just ensuring another damn series of the stuff.
Honestly, sometimes people are their own worst enemy.
And for all those who will watch what they consider an offensive programme on TV, turn it over or off, if you don't watch it, then falling viewing figures will ensure it is cancelled, don't sit there watching it getting more and more offended, you are just ensuring another damn series of the stuff.
Honestly, sometimes people are their own worst enemy.
I think you have a very good point about ignoring certain behaviours and that not feeding them may starve them.
I have difficulty in marrying that with certain practicalities, though. I was very young indeed when the realisation hit me that I couldn't be a milkman, postman, fireman, or policeman and I was struck with a scary future involving becoming a nurse, or a mother. Both of those involved vomit and I've had a vomit phobia for as long as I can remember. I recoil everytime I see the puke emote, even.
I think my daughter grew up with a different mindset for knowing she could be a firefighter, postie, police officer, or deliver milk to people's doorsteps like the woman who delivered to us.
How does a child ignore the influences surrounding them which shape their formative, and so adult, years?
How does a black woman ignore that she has a statistically higher chance of her child dying before, or soon after birth than any other racial group living in similar conditions in America? How does she come to terms with research funding not being forthcoming in this area whilst huge amounts are spent on space exploration by predominantly white people, or her under-educated children going to fight and maybe die in a war? How does she ignore that her children are likely to be discriminated against in school? How do they ignore it? By not attending?
How do disabled people ignore the silliness of not having access to a world that others do? How do Muslim people, including their children ignore the constant barrage of slurs in the media and elsewhere? How do refugees ignore being sent back to their home countries and almost certain torture, mutilation, or execution?
I'm sorry if I think there are some things we should all feel is an offence.
And you proved his point perfectly. Bravo.
MADDOG69: And you proved his point perfectly. Bravo.
Who has and how?
MadBushpig: It will be interesting to note the responses to this.
Yes, we have gone to far.
Every culture has something that is worth remembering.
It may be good or it may be bad but it needs to be remembered.
Life is an insult and how do we correct that?
jmho
NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: Yes, we have gone to far.
Every culture has something that is worth remembering.
It may be good or it may be bad but it needs to be remembered.
Life is an insult and how do we correct that?
jmho
Every culture has something that is worth remembering.
It may be good or it may be bad but it needs to be remembered.
Life is an insult and how do we correct that?
jmho
I thought that was what political correctness was all about, NMP.
Making room for all people, life-styles and cultures without oppressing anyone for no sensible reason.
NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: Yes, we have gone to far.
Every culture has something that is worth remembering.
It may be good or it may be bad but it needs to be remembered.
Life is an insult and how do we correct that?
jmho
Every culture has something that is worth remembering.
It may be good or it may be bad but it needs to be remembered.
Life is an insult and how do we correct that?
jmho
Well, finally, someone said it...
We have gone too far... and I agree..
I was watching a doco on the weekend... about the cultural differences in England..
the title being "honour and obey"
and the chief of police there and the indian sheik who spoke up.. both say yes... we have gone way to far..
in accepting to not ask questions when schoolgirls cant join in after school activities.... in accepting to not ask questions when they disappear.. when they get sent to be married, or if they refuse to be 'honour killed.. so
(I am not suggesting you watch the whole thing... because its a long program.. and you might not have the gigs for it..)
but at the end.. the statistics are very worrying for UK police and the general consensus is
by being pc all the time, we have really bad stuff going on under our noses, and we don't say a word..
The solution that the police have now done.. to protect girls who are being forcefully sent off to India to marry against their will... The have alerted these girls.. that if they feel unsafe.. with their families..to
shove a teaspoon in their underwear... and when they go thru at the airport.. they will beep... and that is their last chance to say... Help me...
and the customs, security, everyone knows now... what to do...
stringman: I believe the word GOD stands for truth, people don't know truth. or don't know GOD.IMO
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A little girl was asked who Jesus was. Her answer was perplexing and no theologian could have said it better;
The little girls said; Jesus is God with the skin on..................
Please define political correctness. Language has changed, for example, fireman is now firefighter, air hostess is now cabin crew.....I don't understand this knee jerk reaction against the term in its true sense of the word. Isn't it really about eliminating suffixes such as "ism" and "ation"?
... Definition: "the avoidance of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against" ...
... Definition 2 (and my favorite): "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end" ...
... Definition 3: It is an article of passionate faith among 'politically correct' biologists and anthropologists that brain size has no connection with intelligence; that intelligence has nothing to do with genes; and that genes are probably nasty fascist things anyway ...
... Take your pick ...
... Definition 2 (and my favorite): "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end" ...
... Definition 3: It is an article of passionate faith among 'politically correct' biologists and anthropologists that brain size has no connection with intelligence; that intelligence has nothing to do with genes; and that genes are probably nasty fascist things anyway ...
... Take your pick ...
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Indeed it often is, by people who allow themselves to be controlled and by those who think they can control. That's unawareness.