Alcoholism (146)
secretagent09: Or check out the video on page 85
Yes, I did and I hope other's did too.
How is your eye today?
Friskyone: Yes, I did and I hope other's did too.
How is your eye today?
Staying on the subject.....Did you know that Bill W. the man who founded AA didn't have a drink for the last 37 years of his life. That's incredible.How is your eye today?
secretagent09: Staying on the subject.....Did you know that Bill W. the man who founded AA didn't have a drink for the last 37 years of his life. That's incredible.
Yes and he never thought that AA would become what it is today either.
USA, Prohibition 1920s.
Alcohol Prohibition in the US during 20s gave many positive and helpful causes :
1. Divorces and domestic violence decreased in vast numbers
2. Jail population, crime, and arrests decreased drastically
3. Numbers of mental wards patients dropped
4. Child birth exploded
5. Deaths related to drinking and intoxications dropped
6. People drank milk
7. However , The Prohibition boosted organized crime like famous Capone, but mafia caused to harm to the general US population.
secretagent09: In December 2002 I was buying ingredients to make a rum cake that I always made for Christmas.
Things happened that winter and I wasn't able to make the cake but I still have that small bottle of rum in the cabinet.
After reading Lookinforhappy's post I'm thinking of taking that bottle out of the cabinet and drinking every last drop of it.
And I'm not saying that in as a joke. There is nothing funny about what he said. I am so disheartened by what he wrote.
I haven't had a drink of alcohol since 2008 simply because I don't have a reason to drink.
Now I think I do.
Don't do it! It's not worth it. Things happened that winter and I wasn't able to make the cake but I still have that small bottle of rum in the cabinet.
After reading Lookinforhappy's post I'm thinking of taking that bottle out of the cabinet and drinking every last drop of it.
And I'm not saying that in as a joke. There is nothing funny about what he said. I am so disheartened by what he wrote.
I haven't had a drink of alcohol since 2008 simply because I don't have a reason to drink.
Now I think I do.
Friskyone: Not to mention pancreatitis.
People in my family are dropping like flies from Pancreatic cancer..The only one who was an alcoholic who died last year hadn't had a drink for 25 years..Someone told me having sugary things is the cause of pancreatic cancerMercedes_00: People in my family are dropping like flies from Pancreatic cancer..The only one who was an alcoholic who died last year hadn't had a drink for 25 years..Someone told me having sugary things is the cause of pancreatic cancer
Oh man, I'm sorry to hear that. I have not heard sugar is the cause, I've heard it was the alcohol, so I could be wrong. I once saw someone who was an alcoholic and couldn't stop drinking, all of a sudden, approaching the end of his life, he blew up like a balloon all over his body. I felt so bad for him and shortly after the swelling he passed a way. Maybe he died due to his liver but that wasn't what I was told.
secretagent09: In December 2002 I was buying ingredients to make a rum cake that I always made for Christmas.
Things happened that winter and I wasn't able to make the cake but I still have that small bottle of rum in the cabinet.
After reading Lookinforhappy's post I'm thinking of taking that bottle out of the cabinet and drinking every last drop of it.
And I'm not saying that in as a joke. There is nothing funny about what he said. I am so disheartened by what he wrote.
I haven't had a drink of alcohol since 2008 simply because I don't have a reason to drink.
Now I think I do.
the CHOICE is totally yours as you know yourself ,Things happened that winter and I wasn't able to make the cake but I still have that small bottle of rum in the cabinet.
After reading Lookinforhappy's post I'm thinking of taking that bottle out of the cabinet and drinking every last drop of it.
And I'm not saying that in as a joke. There is nothing funny about what he said. I am so disheartened by what he wrote.
I haven't had a drink of alcohol since 2008 simply because I don't have a reason to drink.
Now I think I do.
a reason is not a disease. , anymore than an opinion on alcoholism is.
if you have or had a problem with drink esp to the point of alcoholism in the past.
my advice is to CHOOSE not to for everybodys sake.
it affects people differently for various reasons.
its not for everyone.
I don't know how it has , or does affect you as you didn't say.
if its badly then the choice is NO.
continue with that CHOICE as you have been doing since 2002
I hope you don't mistakenly think that an opinion takes away your faculty of choice.
or that being disheartened is a disease ……... that makes you drink.
but if you have no probs with drink, then cheers ,
.
Friskyone: Oh man, I'm sorry to hear that.
I have not heard sugar is the cause, I've heard it was the alcohol, so I could be wrong. I once saw someone who was an alcoholic and couldn't stop drinking, all of a sudden, approaching the end of his life, he blew up like a balloon all over his body. I felt so bad for him and shortly after the swelling he passed a way. Maybe he died due to his liver but that wasn't what I was told.
The exact cause of pancreatic cancer is unknown, but doctors have identified risk factors that include genetics and lifestyle. Though statistics suggest some correlations, it is not yet possible to say for certain what causes cancer of the pancreas, and people who fit the risk profile will not necessarily develop the condition.I have not heard sugar is the cause, I've heard it was the alcohol, so I could be wrong. I once saw someone who was an alcoholic and couldn't stop drinking, all of a sudden, approaching the end of his life, he blew up like a balloon all over his body. I felt so bad for him and shortly after the swelling he passed a way. Maybe he died due to his liver but that wasn't what I was told.
1. Age as a Risk Factor
Older age brings specific health challenges, sometimes including pancreatic cancer. Figures show the disease is relatively uncommon in people under 50. Over 80% of cases occur between the ages of 60 and 80. These statistics suggest that something in the aging processes increases the risk of developing the disease.
Of course I was fed bs..Why aren't I surprised
I just now Googled the above..It says genetics..I hope it skips me
I'm so sorry about your friend..People are lucky if they live for six months once diagnosed.
lookinforhappy: the CHOICE is totally yours as you know yourself ,
a reason is not a disease. , anymore than an opinion on alcoholism is.
if you have or had a problem with drink esp to the point of alcoholism in the past.
my advice is to CHOOSE not to for everybodys sake.
it affects people differently for various reasons.
its not for everyone.
I don't know how it has , or does affect you as you didn't say.
if its badly then the choice is NO.
continue with that CHOICE as you have been doing since 2002
I hope you don't mistakenly think that an opinion takes away your faculty of choice.
or that being disheartened is a disease ……... that makes you drink.
but if you have no probs with drink, then cheers ,
.
YOU DISGUST ME.a reason is not a disease. , anymore than an opinion on alcoholism is.
if you have or had a problem with drink esp to the point of alcoholism in the past.
my advice is to CHOOSE not to for everybodys sake.
it affects people differently for various reasons.
its not for everyone.
I don't know how it has , or does affect you as you didn't say.
if its badly then the choice is NO.
continue with that CHOICE as you have been doing since 2002
I hope you don't mistakenly think that an opinion takes away your faculty of choice.
or that being disheartened is a disease ……... that makes you drink.
but if you have no probs with drink, then cheers ,
.
I don't have a problem with alcohol. I don't drink because it doesn't taste good.
The trash you wrote and are still writing upset me. It was personally directed towards my posts about my husband.
I said I was going to drink the rum because I had one millisecond of hate for you.
I'm over that and won't spend anymore time responding to you.
GTH
Mercedes_00: The exact cause of pancreatic cancer is unknown, but doctors have identified risk factors that include genetics and lifestyle. Though statistics suggest some correlations, it is not yet possible to say for certain what causes cancer of the pancreas, and people who fit the risk profile will not necessarily develop the condition.
1. Age as a Risk Factor
Older age brings specific health challenges, sometimes including pancreatic cancer. Figures show the disease is relatively uncommon in people under 50. Over 80% of cases occur between the ages of 60 and 80. These statistics suggest that something in the aging processes increases the risk of developing the disease.
Of course I was fed bs..Why aren't I surprised
I just now Googled the above..It says genetics..I hope it skips me
I'm so sorry about your friend..People are lucky if they live for six months once diagnosed.
Cancer of the pancreas is caused when mutated cells grow out of control, forming a tumor. While the exact cause of pancreatic cancer is not known, certain risk factors are strongly linked to the disease, including tobacco smoking and obesity.1. Age as a Risk Factor
Older age brings specific health challenges, sometimes including pancreatic cancer. Figures show the disease is relatively uncommon in people under 50. Over 80% of cases occur between the ages of 60 and 80. These statistics suggest that something in the aging processes increases the risk of developing the disease.
Of course I was fed bs..Why aren't I surprised
I just now Googled the above..It says genetics..I hope it skips me
I'm so sorry about your friend..People are lucky if they live for six months once diagnosed.
Just found that ^^^^^^^^^
secretagent09: YOU DISGUST ME.
I don't have a problem with alcohol. I don't drink because it doesn't taste good.
The trash you wrote and are still writing upset me. It was personally directed towards my posts about my husband.
I said I was going to drink the rum because I had one millisecond of hate for you.
I'm over that and won't spend anymore time responding to you.
GTH
never said you had a problem with alcoholism .I don't have a problem with alcohol. I don't drink because it doesn't taste good.
The trash you wrote and are still writing upset me. It was personally directed towards my posts about my husband.
I said I was going to drink the rum because I had one millisecond of hate for you.
I'm over that and won't spend anymore time responding to you.
GTH
never said why you do or don't drink it.
what I wrote was in relation to poll on alcoholism.
if you create poll and then hate folk on submitted comment so be it …..your choice.
I voted decision./choice …. no mysterious disease making anybody drink.
nothing to do with your posts about your husband. (I not read posts at time when I posted)
maybe you should make a poll with a list of ok answers to give that suit you. lol
responders could choose from your list of answers and post back to you.
are you sure you havnt drank that bottle of rum.
no answer required.
After a major 2016 operation i had/have issues that arose from 10 days of strong intervenes antibiotic that killed my digestive system. After googling the subject numinous times i stumbled upon Gut Leak and changed my diet hoping to protect my body from that.
Apparently our blood is able to extract tiny bits of food through our stomach wall. When larger bits of food make it through our stomach-wall serious problems occur one issue apparently leaky gut facilitates is the translocation of bacteria and toxins to the pancreas. One person on here and another person i know have had there pancreas removed...not good...
I don't doubt alcohol does a good job of stuffing our stomach wall to, myself many years ago (20 years ago) i made a decision to stop drinking alcohol and stopped...
Apparently our blood is able to extract tiny bits of food through our stomach wall. When larger bits of food make it through our stomach-wall serious problems occur one issue apparently leaky gut facilitates is the translocation of bacteria and toxins to the pancreas. One person on here and another person i know have had there pancreas removed...not good...
I don't doubt alcohol does a good job of stuffing our stomach wall to, myself many years ago (20 years ago) i made a decision to stop drinking alcohol and stopped...
robplum: After a major 2016 operation i had/have issues that arose from 10 days of strong intervenes antibiotic that killed my digestive system. After googling the subject numinous times i stumbled upon Gut Leak and changed my diet hoping to protect my body from that.
Apparently our blood is able to extract tiny bits of food through our stomach wall. When larger bits of food make it through our stomach-wall serious problems occur one issue apparently leaky gut facilitates is the translocation of bacteria and toxins to the pancreas. One person on here and another person i know have had there pancreas removed...not good...
I don't doubt alcohol does a good job of stuffing our stomach wall to, myself many years ago (20 years ago) i made a decision to stop drinking alcohol and stopped...
I died during anoperation, it went wrong and i was clinically dead, of course they resusticated me, some people say after such an experience they don't fear death, i do, perhaps not death perse, but the experience of being alive, something wondertul everyday,Apparently our blood is able to extract tiny bits of food through our stomach wall. When larger bits of food make it through our stomach-wall serious problems occur one issue apparently leaky gut facilitates is the translocation of bacteria and toxins to the pancreas. One person on here and another person i know have had there pancreas removed...not good...
I don't doubt alcohol does a good job of stuffing our stomach wall to, myself many years ago (20 years ago) i made a decision to stop drinking alcohol and stopped...
If I was diagnosed as an alcoholic i would stop drinking for this reason, even though i like my glass of wine.
hough I appreciate some people would not have my 100% motivation.
lookinforhappy: never said you had a problem with alcoholism .
never said why you do or don't drink it.
what I wrote was in relation to poll on alcoholism.
if you create poll and then hate folk on submitted comment so be it …..your choice.
I voted decision./choice …. no mysterious disease making anybody drink.
nothing to do with your posts about your husband. (I not read posts at time when I posted)
maybe you should make a poll with a list of ok answers to give that suit you. lol
responders could choose from your list of answers and post back to you.
are you sure you havnt drank that bottle of rum.
no answer required.
Referring to "are you sure you haven't drank that bottle of rum", IN MY OPINION, that was unnecessary, un-called for, morally incorrect and a below the belt comment. never said why you do or don't drink it.
what I wrote was in relation to poll on alcoholism.
if you create poll and then hate folk on submitted comment so be it …..your choice.
I voted decision./choice …. no mysterious disease making anybody drink.
nothing to do with your posts about your husband. (I not read posts at time when I posted)
maybe you should make a poll with a list of ok answers to give that suit you. lol
responders could choose from your list of answers and post back to you.
are you sure you havnt drank that bottle of rum.
no answer required.
Shame on you. NO ANSWER REQUIRED.
<<<<< Major bible-puncher alert 
In the past I had a job I hated so much, that I went to the pub everyday and couldn't remember what happened the next day, not even how I got home, think I drank about 7 litres of beer a day. I was in a coma every day. Then I changed my job and I stayed sober for a year, not one drop of beer or whatever.
So alcoholism is a choise.
Now I drink about 6 bottles (1.8 litres) of beer a day, I ain't drunk, I don't even feel weird, so I am an alcoholist I guess, but when I don't have beer at home and it's raining cats and dogs, I decide not to drink for that day.
So I guess it's a question of keeping it in control.
So alcoholism is a choise.
Now I drink about 6 bottles (1.8 litres) of beer a day, I ain't drunk, I don't even feel weird, so I am an alcoholist I guess, but when I don't have beer at home and it's raining cats and dogs, I decide not to drink for that day.
So I guess it's a question of keeping it in control.
people can have all the opinions they want...it doesn't change the facts....you can choose to drink sure....that doesn't make you an alcoholic.....once your body needs it the choice is gone....your body now requires it so that makes your dependent and it becomes a disease....opinions are like a**hole we all have one...that doesn't make us experts.....
I know it is a subject that people vary opinions on, and people can react strong due to personal experiences, but it is still a subject which should be discussed and different viewpoints listened to, because it isn't an open and shut case as to the causes, even experts disagree so it is good to read with an open mind.
the choice to say NO to drink is never gone. never had been, ..never will be.
there are millions of ex drinkers worldwide that prove it, there will be many millions more to come.
if a disease or a body needing drink could take away choice and make people drink like programmed robots , then obviously there would be no recoveries ever , as they couldn't choose to stop.
the ex alcoholics worldwide chose to stop. whatever their reasons . maybe they hit rock bottom due to the negative ways it affected their lives, or bodies or those around them. whatever it was , they simply had enough of it and finally did choose themselves to stop. (all things considered) BIG CHOICES in life.
they didn't stop unknowing to themselves on basis that they had no faculty of choice and were just functioning robots who first had to drink and then something went wrong automatically in the programming and then suddenly they just had to stop. without say in any of it.
fact is,
they themselves chose to stop.
chose to stick with .decision.
chose turn life around. (not easy by any means)
credit where credit is due.
there are millions of ex drinkers worldwide that prove it, there will be many millions more to come.
if a disease or a body needing drink could take away choice and make people drink like programmed robots , then obviously there would be no recoveries ever , as they couldn't choose to stop.
the ex alcoholics worldwide chose to stop. whatever their reasons . maybe they hit rock bottom due to the negative ways it affected their lives, or bodies or those around them. whatever it was , they simply had enough of it and finally did choose themselves to stop. (all things considered) BIG CHOICES in life.
they didn't stop unknowing to themselves on basis that they had no faculty of choice and were just functioning robots who first had to drink and then something went wrong automatically in the programming and then suddenly they just had to stop. without say in any of it.
fact is,
they themselves chose to stop.
chose to stick with .decision.
chose turn life around. (not easy by any means)
credit where credit is due.
Mercedes_00: The exact cause of pancreatic cancer is unknown, but doctors have identified risk factors that include genetics and lifestyle. Though statistics suggest some correlations, it is not yet possible to say for certain what causes cancer of the pancreas, and people who fit the risk profile will not necessarily develop the condition.
1. Age as a Risk Factor
Older age brings specific health challenges, sometimes including pancreatic cancer. Figures show the disease is relatively uncommon in people under 50. Over 80% of cases occur between the ages of 60 and 80. These statistics suggest that something in the aging processes increases the risk of developing the disease.
Of course I was fed bs..Why aren't I surprised
I just now Googled the above..It says genetics..I hope it skips me
I'm so sorry about your friend..People are lucky if they live for six months once diagnosed.
Thanks girl for your condolences and I too, hope it skips you too.1. Age as a Risk Factor
Older age brings specific health challenges, sometimes including pancreatic cancer. Figures show the disease is relatively uncommon in people under 50. Over 80% of cases occur between the ages of 60 and 80. These statistics suggest that something in the aging processes increases the risk of developing the disease.
Of course I was fed bs..Why aren't I surprised
I just now Googled the above..It says genetics..I hope it skips me
I'm so sorry about your friend..People are lucky if they live for six months once diagnosed.
My friend that passed was younger than 60. Either way, he was a great guy and I will always remember the good times we shared.
Friskyone: Thanks girl for your condolences and I too, hope it skips you too.
My friend that passed was younger than 60. Either way, he was a great guy and I will always remember the good times we shared.
Yep we will never forget My friend that passed was younger than 60. Either way, he was a great guy and I will always remember the good times we shared.
Mercedes_00: Yep we will never forget
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