Alcoholism (146)

Nov 13, 2019 8:43 AM CST Alcoholism
Friskyone: Congrats on your achievement. Happy for you.
Thanks ?? !
It is what I wanted and needed to do.
Nov 13, 2019 8:45 AM CST Alcoholism
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA271 Threads 26 Polls 4,631 Posts
Mrroscoe03: Thanks ?? !
It is what I wanted and needed to do.
And you did it! yay
Nov 13, 2019 8:46 AM CST Alcoholism
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA271 Threads 26 Polls 4,631 Posts
Wow, look how close the votes are.
Nov 13, 2019 8:56 AM CST Alcoholism
Katamaran
KatamaranKatamaranOrange, California USA2 Threads 85 Posts
I am a teetotaler. Alcohol is a poison in all quantities.
Nov 13, 2019 9:35 AM CST Alcoholism
Bearwoman
BearwomanBearwomanNorthgate, Ohio USA9 Threads 3,267 Posts
My late stepfather was an alcoholic but you couldn't tell he was drunk right away until I saw him stagger and such.
Nov 13, 2019 11:10 AM CST Alcoholism
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
Friskyone: Wow, look how close the votes are.
Yes, the bottom line seems to be, whether it's a disease or some willful habit, it ends in certain death, wheras I sympathise with the people involved , maybe this is a release from the suffering (the death).

No disrespect intendedsad flower
Nov 13, 2019 11:27 AM CST Alcoholism
tomcatty: Yes, the bottom line seems to be, whether it's a disease or some willful habit, it ends in certain death, wheras I sympathise with the people involved , maybe this is a release from the suffering (the death).

No disrespect intended
It starts out willful but the disease is when it goes from willful to an addiction where it becomes needed just to be normal, very hard to break. I got an uncle is is going to die any day at all now because his liver is shot from drinking but like he told me himself, when your an alcoholic like he is, it is HARD to give up.
Nov 13, 2019 12:03 PM CST Alcoholism
Mercedes_00
Mercedes_00Mercedes_00Greater Sydney, New South Wales Australia18 Threads 20,479 Posts
I look at alcoholism as being as addictive as a junkie is addicted to a fix..For some it runs in the family so the cycle continues..Not all are abusive my uncle was an alcoholic who attended AA for years and he was a very gentle man.

In saying the above I do believe there are some on CS who aren't alcoholics but decide to slurp on a few then use the forums/blogs as lippy drunk trashy trogs..
Nov 13, 2019 12:32 PM CST Alcoholism
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
I have two friends in their 70s who wish their daughter in the hospital for being a Chronic dipsomaniac would choose not to drink. They are tired of dealing with it and have better things they rather do with their time than hold their 45 year old daughters hand in the hospital. Their daughter lost her marriage, friends, great job and her children because of her choice to drink all day long. thumbs down
Nov 13, 2019 12:36 PM CST Alcoholism
HarbalEsquire
HarbalEsquireHarbalEsquireDoncaster, South Yorkshire, England UK14 Threads 1 Polls 601 Posts
galrads: I have two friends
I had no idea you were that popular. beer
Nov 13, 2019 12:37 PM CST Alcoholism
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
HarbalEsquire: I had no idea you were that popular.
Thank you.... You don't miss a chance harbal wave
Nov 13, 2019 12:43 PM CST Alcoholism
Mercedes_00: I look at alcoholism as being as addictive as a junkie is addicted to a fix..For some it runs in the family so the cycle continues..Not all are abusive my uncle was an alcoholic who attended AA for years and he was a very gentle man.

In saying the above I do believe there are some on CS who aren't alcoholics but decide to slurp on a few then use the forums/blogs as lippy drunk trashy trogs..
Its the exact same, its an addiction like coke or heroin can be. Alcohol is a drug, though people like to treat it different from other drugs, it is a drug and behaves like one.
Nov 13, 2019 2:20 PM CST Alcoholism
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,230 Posts
Track16: Its the exact same, its an addiction like coke or heroin can be. Alcohol is a drug, though people like to treat it different from other drugs, it is a drug and behaves like one.
I wonder why people want to treat alcohol addiction different from heroin or cocaine addiction or any other addiction.

I'm telling the folks on here now that I have an addiction to sugar. More than likely someone is going to think.....she's just lazy with her diet. My body doesn't metabolize sugar the same way it does in other people. I don't just get gain weight. I end up in serious pain when I put too much sugar in my body. And just like the alcoholic I tell myself I'm not going to eat anymore sweet stuff and a few days later my body
craves for sugar and I give in. It is a struggle for me to walk down the aisles in a grocery store and not buy ice cream. People suggest I should eat fruit because it has natural sugar. My body wants real sugar. I can't explain it. It's the addiction talking. Just like the alcoholic who wants real alcohol.

Am I putting sugar addiction on the same level as alcohol? No I am not.

What I am saying is that there are things that can be addictive for one person that aren't addictive for someone else.

I am thankful that my daughter isn't an alcoholic. Her father and his father were both alcoholics.

The public doesn't want to understand the life of an alcoholic because they think of it as a weakness.

My husband lived a life of hell. He didn't deserve to have that monkey on his back because deep down he was a good man. Divorce or not I cared about him because he was worth it.
Nov 13, 2019 2:23 PM CST Alcoholism
secretagent09: I wonder why people want to treat alcohol addiction different from heroin or cocaine addiction or any other addiction.

I'm telling the folks on here now that I have an addiction to sugar. More than likely someone is going to think.....she's just lazy with her diet. My body doesn't metabolize sugar the same way it does in other people. I don't just get gain weight. I end up in serious pain when I put too much sugar in my body. And just like the alcoholic I tell myself I'm not going to eat anymore sweet stuff and a few days later my body
craves for sugar and I give in. It is a struggle for me to walk down the aisles in a grocery store and not buy ice cream. People suggest I should eat fruit because it has natural sugar. My body wants real sugar. I can't explain it. It's the addiction talking. Just like the alcoholic who wants real alcohol.

Am I putting sugar addiction on the same level as alcohol? No I am not.

What I am saying is that there are things that can be addictive for one person that aren't addictive for someone else.

I am thankful that my daughter isn't an alcoholic. Her father and his father were both alcoholics.

The public doesn't want to understand the life of an alcoholic because they think of it as a weakness.

My husband lived a life of hell. He didn't deserve to have that monkey on his back because deep down he was a good man. Divorce or not I cared about him because he was worth it.
Its devastating. Addiction is a demon with teeth and claws and it is the hardest thing a person will ever fight and not everyone wins that fight and thats ok despite what society may say.
Nov 13, 2019 2:25 PM CST Alcoholism
secretagent09: I wonder why people want to treat alcohol addiction different from heroin or cocaine addiction or any other addiction.

I'm telling the folks on here now that I have an addiction to sugar. More than likely someone is going to think.....she's just lazy with her diet. My body doesn't metabolize sugar the same way it does in other people. I don't just get gain weight. I end up in serious pain when I put too much sugar in my body. And just like the alcoholic I tell myself I'm not going to eat anymore sweet stuff and a few days later my body
craves for sugar and I give in. It is a struggle for me to walk down the aisles in a grocery store and not buy ice cream. People suggest I should eat fruit because it has natural sugar. My body wants real sugar. I can't explain it. It's the addiction talking. Just like the alcoholic who wants real alcohol.

Am I putting sugar addiction on the same level as alcohol? No I am not.

What I am saying is that there are things that can be addictive for one person that aren't addictive for someone else.

I am thankful that my daughter isn't an alcoholic. Her father and his father were both alcoholics.

The public doesn't want to understand the life of an alcoholic because they think of it as a weakness.

My husband lived a life of hell. He didn't deserve to have that monkey on his back because deep down he was a good man. Divorce or not I cared about him because he was worth it.
Sugar is its own type of addiction similar to drug addiction. It is real and just as hard to fight as any drug addiction.
Nov 13, 2019 2:28 PM CST Alcoholism
M4_Mischief
M4_MischiefM4_MischiefBelleville, Ontario Canada6,250 Posts
once your body becomes reliant on it...it becomes a disease....that's the difference between a person who chooses to drink and person who has to drink because their body now requires it......wave
Nov 13, 2019 2:36 PM CST Alcoholism
M4_Mischief
M4_MischiefM4_MischiefBelleville, Ontario Canada6,250 Posts
also it is genetic....that doesn't mean that because its in your genes that you will become an alcoholic but there is a predisposition to it.....thumbs up
Nov 13, 2019 2:53 PM CST Alcoholism
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
Track16: Its the exact same, its an addiction like coke or heroin can be. Alcohol is a drug, though people like to treat it different from other drugs, it is a drug and behaves like one.
People treat it differently because it is legal.

Also because it doesn't work the same way. Nobody goes out for a couple of syringes of heroine with their friends or partner on a Saturday night to relax.
Nov 13, 2019 4:23 PM CST Alcoholism
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
Something similar to what I said, Bod
Nov 13, 2019 5:30 PM CST Alcoholism
raphael119
raphael119raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA19 Threads 3 Polls 5,181 Posts
galrads: Thank you.... You don't miss a chance harbal
He loves you Gal, you just can't see it !!
Nov 13, 2019 5:41 PM CST Alcoholism
OnlyLiveTwice
OnlyLiveTwiceOnlyLiveTwiceValletta, Majjistral Malta162 Threads 29 Polls 1,446 Posts
If alcoholism is a disease, how come no-one suffered from it before booze became widely affordable? To suffer from the disease, you need the alcohol. Take alcohol out of the equation, and the disease disappears. Can you say the same for any other disease - cancer, TB, etc?
Nov 13, 2019 5:49 PM CST Alcoholism
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
OnlyLiveTwice: If alcoholism is a disease, how come no-one suffered from it before booze became widely affordable? To suffer from the disease, you need the alcohol. Take alcohol out of the equation, and the disease disappears. Can you say the same for any other disease - cancer, TB, etc?
Amen when I was stationed on kodiak island their wasn't much to do off duty except play cards, baseball or get drunk. If the marines on that naval air base didn’t have beer there then we’d have only have been able to play cards and baseball off duty. Fricking miserable place. I guess though it was better than being shipped over to Nam.
Nov 13, 2019 5:50 PM CST Alcoholism
raphael119
raphael119raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA19 Threads 3 Polls 5,181 Posts
mollybaby: People treat it differently because it is legal.

Also because it doesn't work the same way. Nobody goes out for a couple of syringes of heroine with their friends or partner on a Saturday night to relax.
Alcohol and cigarettes are insidious . Ive seen recovering alcoholics - of ten or more years -shake with craving over someone holding a bottle of beer .

It took me well over a year of unrelenting moment to moment craving to get off cigarettes.

Yet despite several years of binge drinking I was able to quit with a few months of misery.

People are different but addiction is real.
Nov 13, 2019 5:51 PM CST Alcoholism
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
raphael119: He loves you Gal, you just can't see it !!
I bet he doesn’t love me as much as Trump loves you raphy
Nov 13, 2019 5:52 PM CST Alcoholism
Mercedes_00
Mercedes_00Mercedes_00Greater Sydney, New South Wales Australia18 Threads 20,479 Posts
You can't treat alcoholism the same way other addictions are treated..That's just like saying we will treat cancer the same way we a broken leg
Nov 13, 2019 5:58 PM CST Alcoholism
raphael119
raphael119raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA19 Threads 3 Polls 5,181 Posts
OnlyLiveTwice: If alcoholism is a disease, how come no-one suffered from it before booze became widely affordable? To suffer from the disease, you need the alcohol. Take alcohol out of the equation, and the disease disappears. Can you say the same for any other disease - cancer, TB, etc?
Most diseases have vectors .
Nov 13, 2019 6:00 PM CST Alcoholism
Mercedes_00
Mercedes_00Mercedes_00Greater Sydney, New South Wales Australia18 Threads 20,479 Posts
secretagent09: I wonder why people want to treat alcohol addiction different from heroin or cocaine addiction or any other addiction.

I'm telling the folks on here now that I have an addiction to sugar. More than likely someone is going to think.....she's just lazy with her diet. My body doesn't metabolize sugar the same way it does in other people. I don't just get gain weight. I end up in serious pain when I put too much sugar in my body. And just like the alcoholic I tell myself I'm not going to eat anymore sweet stuff and a few days later my body
craves for sugar and I give in. It is a struggle for me to walk down the aisles in a grocery store and not buy ice cream. People suggest I should eat fruit because it has natural sugar. My body wants real sugar. I can't explain it. It's the addiction talking. Just like the alcoholic who wants real alcohol.

Am I putting sugar addiction on the same level as alcohol? No I am not.

What I am saying is that there are things that can be addictive for one person that aren't addictive for someone else.

I am thankful that my daughter isn't an alcoholic. Her father and his father were both alcoholics.

The public doesn't want to understand the life of an alcoholic because they think of it as a weakness.

My husband lived a life of hell. He didn't deserve to have that monkey on his back because deep down he was a good man. Divorce or not I cared about him because he was worth it.
I too was addicted to sugar..I was so addicted coke (coca cola) the same way I reckon an alcoholic is addicted to alcohol..I would drink between 6 to 8 litres of coke a day..I would have four heaped teaspoons of sugar in a small cup of tea...To cut a long story short I went to the doctor to ask why am I now drinking water?..I hated water..Why have I replaced sugar with sweetener in my cup of tea..Why am I no longer addicted to all things sweet?

I'm not going to go into personal details on this but he told me because of a very traumatic experience I had that my body went into shock..That traumatic even didn't mess with my head but it did things in other ways to my cravings for sugar

I understand about your craving for sugar.
Nov 13, 2019 8:39 PM CST Alcoholism
Katamaran
KatamaranKatamaranOrange, California USA2 Threads 85 Posts
devil Alcohol is a demonic drink. Drinking this in all quantities is very unhealthy. It destroys brain cells, blocks heart arteries, turns men into queers. One glass of wine creates plugs in arteries, paving ways for heart attacks. Bible forbids alcohol in general.
Nov 13, 2019 11:21 PM CST Alcoholism
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Katamaran: Alcohol is a demonic drink. Drinking this in all quantities is very unhealthy. It destroys brain cells, blocks heart arteries, turns men into queers. One glass of wine creates plugs in arteries, paving ways for heart attacks. Bible forbids alcohol in general.
rolling on the floor laughing only alcohol sold in California has those effects.
Nov 14, 2019 12:24 AM CST Alcoholism
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
I had been placed on NZ Navy Rum list year and half before been posted to place called Saigon.
We drank a lot, to sober up you only had to drive past the fish market, in weekends you jump on motorbikes head off out into Charlie Country (which is where we were) there was bar, bat-b-q and water skiing, we went water skiining on the Mekong. As far as i know Charlie never attacked it because he had a rest area for troops down the road...anyway that what i understood.
1967 Saigon main fish market, the other two taken out in the boondocks while water skiining photo of my American mate Master Sergeant Ron Levitt
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