Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars! (829)

Jun 1, 2009 12:35 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
jlw45: another believer in the right, left paradigm, huh??...obama has spent more money than any president in history, in three months....and if he's for "change"...where is the exit strategy for iraq??...why are they gearing up for pakistan??...why are they still giving bail outs, and not knowing where the last bail out went??...

the only change a politician knows, is the change they give back to the public after taxing the hell out of 'em for trillions and trillions, on top of trillions....now that i mention it, who's gonna pay for all these trillions being spent ??...the politicians??...if they were, they would'nt spend a dime


Did I really invite you to come visit me ? doh doh laugh
Jun 1, 2009 12:53 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
jvaski: Did I really invite you to come visit me ?
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

guess who's comming to dinner ?...grin
Jun 1, 2009 1:30 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
friendsfirst
friendsfirstfriendsfirstBurbank, Illinois USA105 Threads 1 Polls 5,965 Posts
jlw45: guess who's comming to dinner ?...


obama?
or rocks?dunno
Jun 1, 2009 3:22 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
jvaski: You realized that certain arrogant administration qualities contributed to hatred towards the us ?
That Crap started in Europe right after WWII.
Continental Europeans looking down their Noses at those "Slightly Depped Fellows" from across the water!

Ma I want some Chewing Gum,and the answer,Wanna look like those AMIS!
Ma,I want a Pair of Levi's,you can think the answer to that!uh oh
Jun 1, 2009 6:17 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
jvaski: NOT you Tom ...........


I do appreciate the meeting of the minds, and the present non positions be taken by the two parties.laugh
Jun 1, 2009 8:10 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
ttom500: I do appreciate the meeting of the minds, and the present non positions be taken by the two parties.


It was one of those rare Kodak moments...like the parting of the Red Sea...
laugh laugh laugh
Jun 1, 2009 8:47 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
WhatUwish4: It was one of those rare Kodak moments...like the parting of the Red Sea...


My goodness, Karen...

Now you're getting all biblical..,what with your recent resurrection and all!laugh

wave
Jun 1, 2009 9:07 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
wixomwizard
wixomwizardwixomwizardWixom, Michigan USA35 Threads 3,636 Posts
I just bought the dvd W. Crikey...if he is just a fraction the idiot he is portrayed, I'm voting for my Apartment manager from here on out...at least she has great tit's.doh

I already have a great choice to portray 'Yomama' when the time comes...Alfred E Newman! doh grin
Jun 1, 2009 9:12 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
venere08: My goodness, Karen...

Now you're getting all biblical..,what with your recent resurrection and all!



LOL...Not likely Fil. If I walked into a church today the roof would probably collapse. laugh laugh It's probably just the Obama thread..the Messiah and all that business.
grin
Jun 1, 2009 9:19 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
WhatUwish4: LOL...Not likely Fil. If I walked into a church today the roof would probably collapse. It's probably just the Obama thread..the Messiah and all that business.


Well, we've heard of a high pitched voice shattering crystal...

But your graceful walk tearing down the Church walls ...more power to you, K! laugh cheering
Jun 1, 2009 9:31 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
venere08: Well, we've heard of a high pitched voice shattering crystal...

But your graceful walk tearing down the Church walls ...more power to you, K!


well, I have enough respect for organized religion not to do anything destructive, but it's possible the good Lord would be so shocked the roof might fall in. laugh
Jun 1, 2009 9:32 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
WHY will this thread JUST NOT DIE ?? frustrated frustrated
Jun 1, 2009 9:34 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
jvaski: WHY will this thread JUST NOT DIE ??


Funny...I've heard people say the same thing about certain profiles! grin grin

Morning Sunshine!
wave wave
Jun 1, 2009 9:37 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
loverboy690
loverboy690loverboy690East Jordan, Michigan USA84 Threads 7 Polls 3,729 Posts
jvaski: WHY will this thread JUST NOT DIE ??
yeah morning sunshinerolling on the floor laughing how is everyone?
Jun 1, 2009 9:37 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
jvaski: WHY will this thread JUST NOT DIE ??


My goodness, jvaski.

I didn't recognise you fully dressed!laugh
Jun 1, 2009 9:38 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
curiousgeorge2
curiousgeorge2curiousgeorge2magnolia, Mississippi USA11 Threads 5 Polls 488 Posts
IF you LIKE OBAMA so much,............ YOU can HAVE him lock stock & barrel.


Joey, Louisiana
Jun 1, 2009 9:38 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
WhatUwish4: Funny...I've heard people say the same thing about certain profiles!

Morning Sunshine!


Morning K ! smitten
I'm worn out from last nite ......... too much excitement for an old guy , hard to keep up with you .....doh roll eyes
Jun 1, 2009 9:40 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
venere08: My goodness, jvaski.

I didn't recognise you fully dressed!


If this thread continues....... I might have to clear the decks with the Whities ............scold
Jun 1, 2009 9:42 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
I think that I have put together a few dots on why the Stimulus packages to the banks is not getting to main street USA. Banks are not lending to the car companies to aid them. SBA loans are hard to come by. Follow a little.

Yesterday, Fed Treasury Chairman Geither said to a questioning Peking University student asking about the security of the $770b
Chinese Investment into the USA (mostly thru T-bills).

Geither replied.."the USA financial institutions are the most deepest and liquid in the world."

Where as President Obama only a couple of weeks ago said.....
'we are out of money. Into deep deficits.'

So what gives? Who is talking straight to the issue of the countries financial liquidity. They both are and they both are talking smoke.

Geither is in reference to the banks that the two TARP financial package went into. Obama is talking about the countries budget, expenses and revenues.

A individual US citizen can buy T-Bill directly from the FED Gov't. But a foreign party or gov't cannot. They don't have the social security number or other numbers for such a transaction. But banks 'bundle' T-Bills and other government financial paper for foreign parties to buy. They act like 'holding companies' in this business, and its is a very legal business activity.

Those socialist Chinese....wanting interest and principle security on their investment in the US. They almost sound like capitalist nation. :-) But Geither's answer had to leave the Chinese student a little confused, in that the US banks were only 8 months ago in a liquity crisis not seen since the great depression.

And here is where both are blowing smoke. The banks were bailed out by the FED gov't...now they have sold billions to the Chinese and other foreign investors in paper....the banks are holding the FED bailout money to cover the interest and secure the principles to these foreign investors. That reduces the amount of FED bailout money for main street America.

Now who is being greedy, Stress? Vinny? Janski? Obama administration is double dipping the well some. They tell foreign investors...all is well in the US. They tell US citizens we are bankrupt. In the mean time, GM and Crystler cannot get bank loans or bailouts to keep going.

And if the FED fails to make pay on the paper, guess who owns the US banks?

Also remember when Barry Franks said 'we need to reconsider what money is." The FED Gov't under Obama is shifting to financial paper (e.g. T-Bills and other paper), from real estate based
economy. Is what I think.

Well if you gotten this far in this lengthy post. Now consider the $6000b in the global diarivites market that the banks have made. That the Obama administration now wants to regulate the speculation in this market.

My thinking is this here. The Obama administration sees this massive market as competition to its FED paper markets. Best way to restrict a market and gain competitive advantage.....regulate it.

Greed will get you every time.
Jun 1, 2009 9:44 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
loverboy690
loverboy690loverboy690East Jordan, Michigan USA84 Threads 7 Polls 3,729 Posts
jvaski: If this thread continues....... I might have to clear the decks with the Whities ............
your specaltyrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Jun 1, 2009 9:45 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
jvaski: Morning K !
I'm worn out from last nite ......... too much excitement for an old guy , hard to keep up with you .....


It was fun though, wasn't it?? Nothing like a little witty debate between friends. Sure beats the regular warfare that goes on around here.

hug
Jun 1, 2009 9:46 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
venere08: My goodness, jvaski.

I didn't recognise you fully dressed!


Shhhh...Don't tell JVASKI, but I probably would have let him win a point or two if he had been wearing his tightie whities...smitten smitten smitten
Jun 1, 2009 9:49 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
ttom500: I think that I have put together a few dots on why the Stimulus packages to the banks is not getting to main street USA. Banks are not lending to the car companies to aid them. SBA loans are hard to come by. Follow a little.

Yesterday, Fed Treasury Chairman Geither said to a questioning Peking University student asking about the security of the $770b
Chinese Investment into the USA (mostly thru T-bills).

Geither replied.."the USA financial institutions are the most deepest and liquid in the world."

Where as President Obama only a couple of weeks ago said.....
'we are out of money. Into deep deficits.'

So what gives? Who is talking straight to the issue of the countries financial liquidity. They both are and they both are talking smoke.

Geither is in reference to the banks that the two TARP financial package went into. Obama is talking about the countries budget, expenses and revenues.

A individual US citizen can buy T-Bill directly from the FED Gov't. But a foreign party or gov't cannot. They don't have the social security number or other numbers for such a transaction. But banks 'bundle' T-Bills and other government financial paper for foreign parties to buy. They act like 'holding companies' in this business, and its is a very legal business activity.

Those socialist Chinese....wanting interest and principle security on their investment in the US. They almost sound like capitalist nation. :-) But Geither's answer had to leave the Chinese student a little confused, in that the US banks were only 8 months ago in a liquity crisis not seen since the great depression.

And here is where both are blowing smoke. The banks were bailed out by the FED gov't...now they have sold billions to the Chinese and other foreign investors in paper....the banks are holding the FED bailout money to cover the interest and secure the principles to these foreign investors. That reduces the amount of FED bailout money for main street America.

Now who is being greedy, Stress? Vinny? Janski? Obama administration is double dipping the well some. They tell foreign investors...all is well in the US. They tell US citizens we are bankrupt. In the mean time, GM and Crystler cannot get bank loans or bailouts to keep going.

And if the FED fails to make pay on the paper, guess who owns the US banks?

Also remember when Barry Franks said 'we need to reconsider what money is." The FED Gov't under Obama is shifting to financial paper (e.g. T-Bills and other paper), from real estate based
economy. Is what I think.

Well if you gotten this far in this lengthy post. Now consider the $6000b in the global diarivites market that the banks have made. That the Obama administration now wants to regulate the speculation in this market.

My thinking is this here. The Obama administration sees this massive market as competition to its FED paper markets. Best way to restrict a market and gain competitive advantage.....regulate it.

Greed will get you every time.


I wish we could give them credit for that thought.............but I simply think it's more that our congress has absolutely no business sense what so ever .
AND, They handed out TARP money to the banks with absolutely NO requirements ! None ! This leads me to believe that alot of this has to do with alot of bank CEO's are buddies with alot of congressmen ......... JMO
So, I don't blame Obama , I blame a tatally corrupt congress !
Jun 1, 2009 9:49 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
totally corrupt congress doh
Jun 1, 2009 9:52 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
WhatUwish4: It was fun though, wasn't it?? Nothing like a little witty debate between friends. Sure beats the regular warfare that goes on around here.


No, I meant the late nite at your place .........laugh
Jun 1, 2009 9:53 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
loverboy690: your specalty


Morning LB .........wave
Jun 1, 2009 9:54 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
jvaski: I wish we could give them credit for that thought.............but I simply think it's more that our congress has absolutely no business sense what so ever .
AND, They handed out TARP money to the banks with absolutely NO requirements ! None ! This leads me to believe that alot of this has to do with alot of bank CEO's are buddies with alot of congressmen ......... JMO
So, I don't blame Obama , I blame a tatally corrupt congress !


I would buy your answer, Jvaski ...if President Obama and his Treasury Chairman were on the same page. But they are telling opposite stories here.
Jun 1, 2009 9:56 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
jvaski: I wish we could give them credit for that thought.............but I simply think it's more that our congress has absolutely no business sense what so ever .
AND, They handed out TARP money to the banks with absolutely NO requirements ! None ! This leads me to believe that alot of this has to do with alot of bank CEO's are buddies with alot of congressmen ......... JMO
So, I don't blame Obama , I blame a tatally corrupt congress !


I don't think they have any business sense either, but they sure were slick when it came to organizing and adding in all those hundreds of special interest allocations in the "economic recovery" package. I can't help but think that whole bailout bru-ha-ha was made to look twice as urgent as it was just so they could push their personal agenda through. A big smoke screen. Unfortunately, it ended up causing a very real, very big world problem ....
sigh
Jun 1, 2009 9:56 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
WhatUwish4: Shhhh...Don't tell JVASKI, but I probably would have let him win a point or two if he had been wearing his tightie whities...


Yes, shhhh, as it's spring time there....he's sure to resurrect them.wow

There we go again...all biblical!doh
Jun 1, 2009 9:57 AM CST Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars!
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
jvaski: No, I meant the late nite at your place .........



doh doh

Brat!
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