Obama Rocks! Today! the most serious attempt against more wars! (829)
jlw45: i hope he mis-reads that as "dude, get a wife"...'cause then maybe the secret service will throw him under the cell, when he trys to ask obama for his hand in marrage
The new DC Crowd!Voted in '08!
Conrad73: The new DC Crowd!Voted in '08!
Is that obummer on the right with the ciggy hanging from his mouth?
Indyfella: I really prefer you leave the humor to me.
Humor? I was serious. those towers are about 300' tall. Dud could take up flag pole sitting.
BrunoMcMahon: Humor? I was serious. those towers are about 300' tall. Dud could take up flag pole sitting.
Great news on ACORN. Glenn Beck is doing some investigative work on the "business". He's finding some interesting stuff.
Amazing who's tied in with ACORN.
Indyfella: Is that obummer on the right with the ciggy hanging from his mouth?
No, but this is.
ttom500: Barack Obama is saying to close GITMO, he will take many of the 245 remaining prisoners to FED High Security Prisons inside the US.
He site that no one has ever escaped from a US High Security Prison. So their presence in the US is not a security threat.
But
Of the 4 that recently planned to attack the NYC Jewish Centers, 3 were reconverts to Islam AND were recent releases from FER prisons for a variety of charges. By the way, one of those attacks was a Jewish school...
So?
We can place 245 harden terrorist with radicial Islamic ideology into our FED prison system. At a cost of $165,000 per man per year in a FED High Security Prison and the $80m GITMO close down cost. How long would the tax payers of the US being paying for this? Who knows? 5, 10, 15, 20 years or more for many of them.
Here if they are mixed with the regular prison population, they will be able to make converts to Islam that like the 3 just arrested.....will want to Jahid against America. If you keep them separate for a significant length of time from the general population. That has been ruled in the past to be harsh punishment by the US Courts (I am pretty sure).
CA is about to sell the prison island Alcratras in San Franisco Bay....home district of Nancy Polosi.....hmmmmmmmmm.... maybe Nancy would like to give them a home? Likely not.....some marshs around the island well....and some of those CA Marsh Mice likely live there as well. Sorry GITMO detainees.....you lose to the
CA Marsh Mouse.:-)
Not even ONE prisoner have ever scaped from american maximum security prisons TT and there are many many terror related persons in ameircan prisons already.He site that no one has ever escaped from a US High Security Prison. So their presence in the US is not a security threat.
But
Of the 4 that recently planned to attack the NYC Jewish Centers, 3 were reconverts to Islam AND were recent releases from FER prisons for a variety of charges. By the way, one of those attacks was a Jewish school...
So?
We can place 245 harden terrorist with radicial Islamic ideology into our FED prison system. At a cost of $165,000 per man per year in a FED High Security Prison and the $80m GITMO close down cost. How long would the tax payers of the US being paying for this? Who knows? 5, 10, 15, 20 years or more for many of them.
Here if they are mixed with the regular prison population, they will be able to make converts to Islam that like the 3 just arrested.....will want to Jahid against America. If you keep them separate for a significant length of time from the general population. That has been ruled in the past to be harsh punishment by the US Courts (I am pretty sure).
CA is about to sell the prison island Alcratras in San Franisco Bay....home district of Nancy Polosi.....hmmmmmmmmm.... maybe Nancy would like to give them a home? Likely not.....some marshs around the island well....and some of those CA Marsh Mice likely live there as well. Sorry GITMO detainees.....you lose to the
CA Marsh Mouse.:-)
I am very agree with president Obama that concidering the american constitution every single prisoner have the right to get triled and an attorney and no body can ever be hold in prsion wiht no charges you see?
theres people have bene arrested some time for some thing thay were doing and then it is good if they are triled and receiving a just punishment if known guilty.
Guantanamo bay or being in a maximum security prison in USA is the same but Guantanamo is bad because it is out of american territory and there for there are no laws covering these peoples rights and they have rights as a matter of fact no matter what they have done or who they are!
Guantanamo must get closed and I assume it will be when possible ... the name illegal combatents made by the Bushney,s was BS TT! We are on planet Earth you see?
ttom500: Let us just knock down all the borders then. Have one big happy family...oh countries like Iran, North Korea will want nucs.
Countries like Venezula will still export drugs.
It is a nice dream Dude.....but with 204 countries each with a national interest(s), many that conflict with nieghboring countries interest(s)....the reality that it could ever come to
being achieve is pretty minute.
But nice to see the old global socialism view are finally being expressed by you. At least you have gotten honest with them to us.
Yeah world peace is really a carey thought oh lala!!!!!!!!Countries like Venezula will still export drugs.
It is a nice dream Dude.....but with 204 countries each with a national interest(s), many that conflict with nieghboring countries interest(s)....the reality that it could ever come to
being achieve is pretty minute.
But nice to see the old global socialism view are finally being expressed by you. At least you have gotten honest with them to us.
How can the Death producing nations ever afford to make Clean money instead of blood money then?
It is good to dream a bout peace TT and militarism is a barbaric part of humanity which hopefully one day will not be necessary at all!
Hot_Single_Dude: Not even ONE prisoner have ever scaped from american maximum security prisons TT and there are many many terror related persons in ameircan prisons already.
I am very agree with president Obama that concidering the american constitution every single prisoner have the right to get triled and an attorney and no body can ever be hold in prsion wiht no charges you see?
theres people have bene arrested some time for some thing thay were doing and then it is good if they are triled and receiving a just punishment if known guilty.
Guantanamo bay or being in a maximum security prison in USA is the same but Guantanamo is bad because it is out of american territory and there for there are no laws covering these peoples rights and they have rights as a matter of fact no matter what they have done or who they are!
Guantanamo must get closed and I assume it will be when possible ... the name illegal combatents made by the Bushney,s was BS TT! We are on planet Earth you see?
Still blowing it out of your Nose I see!I am very agree with president Obama that concidering the american constitution every single prisoner have the right to get triled and an attorney and no body can ever be hold in prsion wiht no charges you see?
theres people have bene arrested some time for some thing thay were doing and then it is good if they are triled and receiving a just punishment if known guilty.
Guantanamo bay or being in a maximum security prison in USA is the same but Guantanamo is bad because it is out of american territory and there for there are no laws covering these peoples rights and they have rights as a matter of fact no matter what they have done or who they are!
Guantanamo must get closed and I assume it will be when possible ... the name illegal combatents made by the Bushney,s was BS TT! We are on planet Earth you see?
Are YOU going to Feed,Clothe and Shelter those Miscreants over in Denmark?
Conrad73: By the way, how's that wind turbine thing going in Denmark? This is how:
According to Wind Watch, the people in Denmark are not very happy with their wind power:
Denmark is the world’s most wind-intensive nation with more than 6,000 turbines generating 19% of its electricity. But consider this:
* Not one fossil fuel power plant has been closed
* 50% more coal-generated electricity is needed to cover wind’s failings
* Pollution and carbon dioxide emissions rose 36% in 2006 alone
* Danish electricity costs are the highest in Europe
Coming soon? Flatulance tax!
Yes Conrad some of what is written in this article is true but still you know when a conservative right winged government is on power then there are no real attempts in green direction any way and if you really wantto know about how green Denmark is then better going back to the years before 2001 and power shift in thsi country. We are still number one any way but the green position would be much greater if the government was not a right winged one! Dont worry....... that will change as well !According to Wind Watch, the people in Denmark are not very happy with their wind power:
Denmark is the world’s most wind-intensive nation with more than 6,000 turbines generating 19% of its electricity. But consider this:
* Not one fossil fuel power plant has been closed
* 50% more coal-generated electricity is needed to cover wind’s failings
* Pollution and carbon dioxide emissions rose 36% in 2006 alone
* Danish electricity costs are the highest in Europe
Coming soon? Flatulance tax!
Hot_Single_Dude: Not even ONE prisoner have ever scaped from american maximum security prisons TT and there are many many terror related persons in ameircan prisons already.
I am very agree with president Obama that concidering the american constitution every single prisoner have the right to get triled and an attorney and no body can ever be hold in prsion wiht no charges you see?
theres people have bene arrested some time for some thing thay were doing and then it is good if they are triled and receiving a just punishment if known guilty.
Guantanamo bay or being in a maximum security prison in USA is the same but Guantanamo is bad because it is out of american territory and there for there are no laws covering these peoples rights and they have rights as a matter of fact no matter what they have done or who they are!
Guantanamo must get closed and I assume it will be when possible ... the name illegal combatents made by the Bushney,s was BS TT! We are on planet Earth you see?
I am very agree with president Obama that concidering the american constitution every single prisoner have the right to get triled and an attorney and no body can ever be hold in prsion wiht no charges you see?
theres people have bene arrested some time for some thing thay were doing and then it is good if they are triled and receiving a just punishment if known guilty.
Guantanamo bay or being in a maximum security prison in USA is the same but Guantanamo is bad because it is out of american territory and there for there are no laws covering these peoples rights and they have rights as a matter of fact no matter what they have done or who they are!
Guantanamo must get closed and I assume it will be when possible ... the name illegal combatents made by the Bushney,s was BS TT! We are on planet Earth you see?
I think Bush/Cheney probably kidnapped a bunch of Arabs who were out watching over their flocks of sheep...just minding their own business.
Now, I wonder why a democrat majority voted against Obama on the funding for bringing the Gitmo gang to the US. I bet they still fear the Bushney's, right Dude?
Oh, what part of the Geneva Convention do they fall under?
Conrad73: Still blowing it out of your Nose I see!
Are YOU going to Feed,Clothe and Shelter those Miscreants over in Denmark?
Are YOU going to Feed,Clothe and Shelter those Miscreants over in Denmark?
well you gotta give Dud credit, he doesn't give up on his savior, he is a dedicated follower, through and through..
Hot_Single_Dude: Not even ONE prisoner have ever scaped from american maximum security prisons TT and there are many many terror related persons in ameircan prisons already.
I am very agree with president Obama that concidering the american constitution every single prisoner have the right to get triled and an attorney and no body can ever be hold in prsion wiht no charges you see?
theres people have bene arrested some time for some thing thay were doing and then it is good if they are triled and receiving a just punishment if known guilty.
Guantanamo bay or being in a maximum security prison in USA is the same but Guantanamo is bad because it is out of american territory and there for there are no laws covering these peoples rights and they have rights as a matter of fact no matter what they have done or who they are!
Guantanamo must get closed and I assume it will be when possible ... the name illegal combatents made by the Bushney,s was BS TT! We are on planet Earth you see?
I am very agree with president Obama that concidering the american constitution every single prisoner have the right to get triled and an attorney and no body can ever be hold in prsion wiht no charges you see?
theres people have bene arrested some time for some thing thay were doing and then it is good if they are triled and receiving a just punishment if known guilty.
Guantanamo bay or being in a maximum security prison in USA is the same but Guantanamo is bad because it is out of american territory and there for there are no laws covering these peoples rights and they have rights as a matter of fact no matter what they have done or who they are!
Guantanamo must get closed and I assume it will be when possible ... the name illegal combatents made by the Bushney,s was BS TT! We are on planet Earth you see?
I doubt the ACLU will want to put the other prisoners at risk. Must keep the little darlings safe.
Hot_Single_Dude: Yes Conrad some of what is written in this article is true but still you know when a conservative right winged government is on power then there are no real attempts in green direction any way and if you really wantto know about how green Denmark is then better going back to the years before 2001 and power shift in thsi country. We are still number one any way but the green position would be much greater if the government was not a right winged one! Dont worry....... that will change as well !
If your government had not shifted directions, you would be under Sharia law by Now..
Didn't you guys allow muslims to have protests where they held signs and sung death to Dimmark right out in public...????? and what did your old government do... They just agreed with them and started allowing them to take over...
Indyfella: I think Bush/Cheney probably kidnapped a bunch of Arabs who were out watching over their flocks of sheep...just minding their own business.
Now, I wonder why a democrat majority voted against Obama on the funding for bringing the Gitmo gang to the US. I bet they still fear the Bushney's, right Dude?
Oh, what part of the Geneva Convention do they fall under?
Now, I wonder why a democrat majority voted against Obama on the funding for bringing the Gitmo gang to the US. I bet they still fear the Bushney's, right Dude?
Oh, what part of the Geneva Convention do they fall under?
Because the same democrat majority needing more concidration time and the idea must be sold to the members of the House and it will happen later on I am certain.
Look at this one if you want to learn some thing Indy but hey you never look any way
Hot_Single_Dude: Because the same democrat majority needing more concidration time and the idea must be sold to the members of the House and it will happen later on I am certain.
Look at this one if you want to learn some thing Indy but hey you never look any way
Prisoners Of War,not Civilian Combatants!Look at this one if you want to learn some thing Indy but hey you never look any way
Conrad73: Prisoners Of War,not Civilian Combatants!
There is no thing as civilian combatents or illegal combatents and all that SH** was discovered by Cheney and Bush and all other massmurderers as those to make the great crime agaisnt whole humanity possible !they were arrested by some reasons during wars and they are prisoners of war no matter how you try to explain and bullying that very Fact Conrad!
Hot_Single_Dude: Because the same democrat majority needing more concidration time and the idea must be sold to the members of the House and it will happen later on I am certain.
Look at this one if you want to learn some thing Indy but hey you never look any way
Look at this one if you want to learn some thing Indy but hey you never look any way
I read it 3 times. I'm looking for that beheading clause.
Indyfella: I read it 3 times. I'm looking for that beheading clause.
Are you agree that any prisoners of war have human rights and those rights must be respected or not indyfella?Hot_Single_Dude: Are you agree that any prisoners of war have human rights and those rights must be respected or not indyfella?
You answer my question first...and then I'll be happy to answer.
Now, about sawing someone's head off.
Indyfella: You answer my question first...and then I'll be happy to answer.
Now, about sawing someone's head off.
Now, about sawing someone's head off.
Repeat the question then Indy sorry I have not notice it yet!
Hot_Single_Dude: There is no thing as civilian combatents or illegal combatents and all that SH** was discovered by Cheney and Bush and all other massmurderers as those to make the great crime agaisnt whole humanity possible !
they were arrested by some reasons during wars and they are prisoners of war no matter how you try to explain and bullying that very Fact Conrad!
You haven't got a Clew,Sunshine!they were arrested by some reasons during wars and they are prisoners of war no matter how you try to explain and bullying that very Fact Conrad!
Hot_Single_Dude: Are you agree that any prisoners of war have human rights and those rights must be respected or not indyfella?
If they (the GITMO Detainees) represented a legal formed government, then they would be under a legal definition, a member of a government military forces.
But the GITMO detainees are para military forces of AlQeada. AlQeada is NOT a foreign government that any nation in the world has officially recognized.
Hence as para military forces of a non signature party of the Geneva Convention....they are not obligated the same rights as a
prisoner of war of a nation state.
Why is so hard to understand about that?
We are not about to give AlQeada the same status as a government, or the same rights as one.
Why?
Well look at what is happening today in Pakistan for example. Say a AlQeada force took control of a Pakistani village, that recognition of them as a legal government organization, means that the village would be legally under what ever law that AlQeada placed over them.
Hot_Single_Dude: Yeah world peace is really a carey thought oh lala!!!!!!!!
How can the Death producing nations ever afford to make Clean money instead of blood money then?
It is good to dream a bout peace TT and militarism is a barbaric part of humanity which hopefully one day will not be necessary at all!
How can the Death producing nations ever afford to make Clean money instead of blood money then?
It is good to dream a bout peace TT and militarism is a barbaric part of humanity which hopefully one day will not be necessary at all!
Ever see a rain bow? Sure you have. Any country own it? Nope not a one. You want peace, Dude.....think about rainbows. Nation states act on thier own interests. They conflict with each other. Some can do it in a nice way....thru talk and negotiation to end the conflict....others when a serious threat to thier National Security exists....use military force and operations.
You will get more real peace in thinking about rain bows....than in trying to get national states to be peaceful with each other.jmo
Hot_Single_Dude: There is no thing as civilian combatents or illegal combatents and all that SH** was discovered by Cheney and Bush and all other massmurderers as those to make the great crime agaisnt whole humanity possible !
they were arrested by some reasons during wars and they are prisoners of war no matter how you try to explain and bullying that very Fact Conrad!
Combatants on a Battlefield have to be marked.they were arrested by some reasons during wars and they are prisoners of war no matter how you try to explain and bullying that very Fact Conrad!
Do you read to understand,or just for Entertainment?
Privileged combatants
To qualify for prisoner of war status upon capture a person engaged in combat must have the following characteristics to be protected by the laws of war:
1. Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict
2. or members of militias not under the command of the armed forces
* that of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates;
* that of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance;
* that of carrying arms openly;
* that of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war.
3. or are members of regular armed forces who profess allegiance to a government or an authority not recognized by the Detaining Power.
4. or inhabitants of a non-occupied territory, who on the approach of the enemy spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading forces, without having had time to form themselves into regular armed units, provided they carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war.
WIKI
Hot_Single_Dude: There is no thing as civilian combatents or illegal combatents and all that SH** was discovered by Cheney and Bush and all other massmurderers as those to make the great crime agaisnt whole humanity possible !
they were arrested by some reasons during wars and they are prisoners of war no matter how you try to explain and bullying that very Fact Conrad!
Here stuff THAT into your Hookah and smoke it!Make sure you read it all!If you don't understand,ask someone!they were arrested by some reasons during wars and they are prisoners of war no matter how you try to explain and bullying that very Fact Conrad!
ttom500: If they (the GITMO Detainees) represented a legal formed government, then they would be under a legal definition, a member of a government military forces.
But the GITMO detainees are para military forces of AlQeada. AlQeada is NOT a foreign government that any nation in the world has officially recognized.
Hence as para military forces of a non signature party of the Geneva Convention....they are not obligated the same rights as a
prisoner of war of a nation state.
Why is so hard to understand about that?
We are not about to give AlQeada the same status as a government, or the same rights as one.
Why?
Well look at what is happening today in Pakistan for example. Say a AlQeada force took control of a Pakistani village, that recognition of them as a legal government organization, means that the village would be legally under what ever law that AlQeada placed over them.
Why is it so difficualt to understand that at least two third of the same detainees of the same prison were freed by the Bushney,s them selves and before Obama took office in 2009 TT?But the GITMO detainees are para military forces of AlQeada. AlQeada is NOT a foreign government that any nation in the world has officially recognized.
Hence as para military forces of a non signature party of the Geneva Convention....they are not obligated the same rights as a
prisoner of war of a nation state.
Why is so hard to understand about that?
We are not about to give AlQeada the same status as a government, or the same rights as one.
Why?
Well look at what is happening today in Pakistan for example. Say a AlQeada force took control of a Pakistani village, that recognition of them as a legal government organization, means that the village would be legally under what ever law that AlQeada placed over them.
Why is it so difficult to understand that even para military Alqueda people are human beings and have human rights and a right to be triled fair and receiving the punishment a fair court of law deciding for them after the same presijoures as any body else and specially when America who are representing a free democratic society is the country which have arrested them in the first place?
Your explnations have been tried by the Bushney,s regim a million times and still it is not accepted no matter how you keep trying TT!
Why? Because sky is high and elephants never can fly and because they are HUMAN BEINGS as your self TT!
Hot_Single_Dude: Why is it so difficualt to understand that at least two third of the same detainees of the same prison were freed by the Bushney,s them selves and before Obama took office in 2009 TT?
Why is it so difficult to understand that even para military Alqueda people are human beings and have human rights and a right to be triled fair and receiving the punishment a fair court of law deciding for them after the same presijoures as any body else and specially when America who are representing a free democratic society is the country which have arrested them in the first place?
Your explnations have been tried by the Bushney,s regim a million times and still it is not accepted no matter how you keep trying TT!
Why? Because sky is high and elephants never can fly and because they are HUMAN BEINGS as your self TT!
Why is it so difficult to understand that even para military Alqueda people are human beings and have human rights and a right to be triled fair and receiving the punishment a fair court of law deciding for them after the same presijoures as any body else and specially when America who are representing a free democratic society is the country which have arrested them in the first place?
Your explnations have been tried by the Bushney,s regim a million times and still it is not accepted no matter how you keep trying TT!
Why? Because sky is high and elephants never can fly and because they are HUMAN BEINGS as your self TT!
Got an address we can send donations for your trip to Cuba Dud? I bet the kids in the cell blocks would love you.
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