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ttom500: I would buy your answer, Jvaski ...if President Obama and his Treasury Chairman were on the same page. But they are telling opposite stories here.
Good Cop---Bad Cop!
WhatUwish4: Morning Driven!
Good morning..
Off to work, but when I return, I shall shed some light on the misguided ones.
drivenbysound: Good morning..
Off to work, but when I return, I shall shed some light on the misguided ones.
That Will Be The Day!Off to work, but when I return, I shall shed some light on the misguided ones.
drivenbysound: Good morning..
Off to work, but when I return, I shall shed some light on the misguided ones.
...more good it will do you!! lol Off to work, but when I return, I shall shed some light on the misguided ones.
...they like the dark! Don't you Conrad! I am so glad that things are different now the Obama has the throne...
<<WASHINGTON - The Obama administration insists it has no obligation to provide access to a top secret document in a wiretapping case, setting up a showdown next week with the judge who ordered it released.
Justice Department lawyers, in a response Friday with the U.S.
District Court in San Francisco, also argued that Judge Vaughn Walker had no cause to penalize the government over its refusal to turn over the document.>>
Once again (sung to the Who's We Won't Get Fooled Again): "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."
<<WASHINGTON - The Obama administration insists it has no obligation to provide access to a top secret document in a wiretapping case, setting up a showdown next week with the judge who ordered it released.
Justice Department lawyers, in a response Friday with the U.S.
District Court in San Francisco, also argued that Judge Vaughn Walker had no cause to penalize the government over its refusal to turn over the document.>>
Once again (sung to the Who's We Won't Get Fooled Again): "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."
Fallingman: ...more good it will do you!! lol ...they like the dark! Don't you Conrad!
Perhaps it's more an issue of liking to expose dark truths...
Morning FM.
Go back and read the last few pages. You'll see a bit of how the old Obama thread used to work when cooler heads prevailed...
Fallingman: ...more good it will do you!! lol ...they like the dark! Don't you Conrad!
it's you all singing:"Brüder Zur Freiheit Zur Sonne,Brüder Zum Licht Empor......"! We have our Light!
Conrad73: it's you all singing:"Brüder Zur Freiheit Zur Sonne,Brüder Zum Licht Empor......"!
We have our Light!
We have our Light!
Or as from Firesign Theatre:
"O Blinding Light!
"O Light That Blinds!
"I Cannot See...;
"Look Out For Me!"
WhatUwish4: Perhaps it's more an issue of liking to expose dark truths...
Morning FM.
Go back and read the last few pages. You'll see a bit of how the old Obama thread used to work when cooler heads prevailed...
Morning FM.
Go back and read the last few pages. You'll see a bit of how the old Obama thread used to work when cooler heads prevailed...
Hello there! I am delighted to hear there is some debate going on....I might rejoin. Less of the Dude shouting and the Conrad vomiting emotes please!
Hope the sun is shining on your Republican skin!
Fallingman: Hello there! I am delighted to hear there is some debate going on....I might rejoin. Less of the Dude shouting and the Conrad vomiting emotes please!
Hope the sun is shining on your Republican skin!
Hope the sun is shining on your Republican skin!
The sun is indeed shining on my AMERICAN skin.
Nice to see you, too!
Fallingman: Hello there! I am delighted to hear there is some debate going on....I might rejoin. Less of the Dude shouting and the Conrad vomiting emotes please!
Hope the sun is shining on your Republican skin!
Got to save my Electrolytes!Hope the sun is shining on your Republican skin!
Conrad73: Got to save my Electrolytes!
hi Conrad...glad to hear it....you need to save those electolytes all right! WhatUwish4: The sun is indeed shining on my AMERICAN skin.
Nice to see you, too!
Nice to see you, too!
Ok American it is....I'm dodging a scorching day here - Irish skin is too fair for it.
YewEye: Is that a Bush-Knee joke??
jvaski: I derived this deduction after I wrote to my congressman and got an answer that was unacceptable............. our congressional representatives are living in a fantacy world where money is printed ...........
The answer I got was about an accountability proposal to congress where fines of a couple hundred thousand would be imposed on banks that broke the rules with TARP money ....
Problem is , when one gets "BILLIONS" one isn;t gonna care about a few hundred thousand in penalties ..........
I think Obama himself is really trying to do the right thing, but his hands are tied with cleaning-house to get things done.
The answer I got was about an accountability proposal to congress where fines of a couple hundred thousand would be imposed on banks that broke the rules with TARP money ....
Problem is , when one gets "BILLIONS" one isn;t gonna care about a few hundred thousand in penalties ..........
I think Obama himself is really trying to do the right thing, but his hands are tied with cleaning-house to get things done.
OK but a question.
Geither and Obama are in the Administration.....Obama is Geither boss so to speak. Not Congress.
Here is the question:
You go to a major corp board meeting. First they give the treasury report. The treasurer stands before you and says.....we having a great year. Liquid and deep sales. Things are peachy keen.
15 mintues later the President of the firm, gives his report on the state of the company. He says we in the most desperate of times, sales are tanking, costs are sky rocketing. The end is near.
Want to buy stock in the company?
It is a confidence thingee, yes? DC is sending mixed signals. Ever date a girl that gave mixed signals? The date was never any fun until you were standing at the door to say good night.:-)
Fallingman: hi Conrad...glad to hear it....you need to save those electolytes all right!
For a Special Occasion!You know!
TT......
Keeping Nucs as a Fear creating weapons so terrorists not attacking any countries does not work TT... Terrorists you see....... they do not give a damn what so ever what countries will get attacked if they god forbidden, ever becoming able to use a nuce as a terror weapon...... they really dont give a damn and terrorist regims do not give a damn either.... You can not "nuce" any nations and then like getting rid of terrorists because other terrorists will take over and the stupied conflict will go on an on and they will get even stronger because they will get more sympaty! Lets think the impossible.... Agroup of saudimen getitng a smaller nuce device in us and actually making it there and making an attack ...... then what? Would u thing the government in Saudi Arabia have been involved or all of them living there? Nucing them all after that, and then what? justice? Terrorism will stop? Really TT! try to think a bout what I am telling you... what a bout existens of so many nuclear weapons in tiney Israel? Really it is BS and not good for peace or any thing and it just creates a stupied kind of need in other countreis in that area trying to get the damn thign them selves as well!
The best possible way of stopping all those horrible threats will be to find out why the hell these organisations and these beleives existing and doing some thing with the possible reasons you see?
A great example is Libanon as a very good one ..... when Libanon was attacked and more than tousand civilians were killed and there were destructions worth hundreds of billions of dollers....... what happened then? Has there been any trilas to find out a bout the economichal compensation Irael must pay to Libanon at all?
Is it ok in ur eyes that any time and every time stupied and totaly out of balanced military actions are done against countries like Libanon happens then those who hlep that country to get back a life is Iran or Syria for example?
Afghanistan, Iraq, Libanon , Gaza....... each and every time Iran comes by and helping to rebuilt and there are no any kinds of fair trials what so ever agaisnt Israel for example which over reacts for sure and involving it self in criminal acts agaisnt civilians and a lot totaly inoncent human beings and their lifehood and their feauter!
Iran does definately not doing that for free TT and they get more and more influence and thats the most stupied part of the whole thing !
Why is this happening TT? Israeli soldiers were killed and kidnapped and it was terrible but why that stupied big oporation and so much destruction and a great defeat and humility after that for Israel mainly?
When horrible feeligns against west gathers that way then there will be some individuals who will try to attack us all and this horrible axis of revenge and this unfairness must stop and the reasons why terrorism existing at all must getting worked on and communication is and will be the most powerful weaopns there is!
Even the fact a bout existens of tens of tousands of nuclear weapons mostly aimed on certain countries making some govenrments keep trying openly or in secret to arm them selves and thats why Obama knows the best hope for whole humanity will be if no countries in world having those weapons and yes TT...... It is a Brabaric kind of thinking from a dark past, and the whole humanity will never be safe if these weapons keep existing and some day soon this horrible threat against whole humanity must be removed!
countinues.......
Keeping Nucs as a Fear creating weapons so terrorists not attacking any countries does not work TT... Terrorists you see....... they do not give a damn what so ever what countries will get attacked if they god forbidden, ever becoming able to use a nuce as a terror weapon...... they really dont give a damn and terrorist regims do not give a damn either.... You can not "nuce" any nations and then like getting rid of terrorists because other terrorists will take over and the stupied conflict will go on an on and they will get even stronger because they will get more sympaty! Lets think the impossible.... Agroup of saudimen getitng a smaller nuce device in us and actually making it there and making an attack ...... then what? Would u thing the government in Saudi Arabia have been involved or all of them living there? Nucing them all after that, and then what? justice? Terrorism will stop? Really TT! try to think a bout what I am telling you... what a bout existens of so many nuclear weapons in tiney Israel? Really it is BS and not good for peace or any thing and it just creates a stupied kind of need in other countreis in that area trying to get the damn thign them selves as well!
The best possible way of stopping all those horrible threats will be to find out why the hell these organisations and these beleives existing and doing some thing with the possible reasons you see?
A great example is Libanon as a very good one ..... when Libanon was attacked and more than tousand civilians were killed and there were destructions worth hundreds of billions of dollers....... what happened then? Has there been any trilas to find out a bout the economichal compensation Irael must pay to Libanon at all?
Is it ok in ur eyes that any time and every time stupied and totaly out of balanced military actions are done against countries like Libanon happens then those who hlep that country to get back a life is Iran or Syria for example?
Afghanistan, Iraq, Libanon , Gaza....... each and every time Iran comes by and helping to rebuilt and there are no any kinds of fair trials what so ever agaisnt Israel for example which over reacts for sure and involving it self in criminal acts agaisnt civilians and a lot totaly inoncent human beings and their lifehood and their feauter!
Iran does definately not doing that for free TT and they get more and more influence and thats the most stupied part of the whole thing !
Why is this happening TT? Israeli soldiers were killed and kidnapped and it was terrible but why that stupied big oporation and so much destruction and a great defeat and humility after that for Israel mainly?
When horrible feeligns against west gathers that way then there will be some individuals who will try to attack us all and this horrible axis of revenge and this unfairness must stop and the reasons why terrorism existing at all must getting worked on and communication is and will be the most powerful weaopns there is!
Even the fact a bout existens of tens of tousands of nuclear weapons mostly aimed on certain countries making some govenrments keep trying openly or in secret to arm them selves and thats why Obama knows the best hope for whole humanity will be if no countries in world having those weapons and yes TT...... It is a Brabaric kind of thinking from a dark past, and the whole humanity will never be safe if these weapons keep existing and some day soon this horrible threat against whole humanity must be removed!
countinues.......
part two....
I remeber Bushney,s as that monster and thief Wolfowits talked a bout "Carpet bombing of Mecca" right after 9/11 and suggested that would be the possible mean to stop terrorism as an example and I heard Hagee and Parsley or others like those which were much more important of the Bushney,s regim than you repube heads want to admit talked a bout nucing those muslims and blah blah blah all because of Stupidity and being totaly careless about lives of human beings and the sensitve balance of this tiney planet belonging to us all and not having any ideas about humanity what so ever!
Eight years and u guys have been keep talikng a bout the same and the same and the result is just a deep gap between civilisations and terrorists are there still and sending tons of drugs to our youngsters all over the western world and using the money to buy weapons and using it agaisnt us all as well... why shall your kind of suggestions which I know what are between lines being any good?
What are those weapons good for any way? Do you thinik it is totaly impossible a guy like Timothy James McVeigh who would be if not convicted "your kind of Hero Real American guy" with all his military back round and his being a republican and even a supporter of Libertarism some times and being a member of national rifle association and even blond and so on and not Muslim what so ever in life ..... succeds to gather some stupied AsH**** around him self and taking control of some nuce sites in US and creating a terror attack and blaming Musmlimns for example? Do you really think it is impossible to make the bomb going off and with out the codes no body can do that Sh**? Is that as impossible as hacking deep inside security systesm even that happens too often any way and some times by a kid not older than 13 ????
Some horrible accidents and acts of terrorism can happen from guys you can never ever imagine and thats hwy these horrible threats agaisnt us all must get removed some day and the world is a global village after all and there are some Bullys still but even most of them are just human beings who are really mad and some body with a good brain can make them ease and stopping their hatered agaisnt other human beings I am certain..and well those of them who can not be stopped will looses agaisnt the mighty american power and her alliences for sure specially now on days when China and Russia want to work with America in that direction as well!
Would you ever imagine Timothy could be a terrorist if you met him in person a year before he attacked his own countrymen in that horrible way and killed women and children and FBI people who really doing an honorable and hard work to keep Americans safe night and day? I bet you would even like that guy and would have a beer with him and inviting him to Barbecue because of being a nice white young man from republican party with military back round and would even presenting him to girls in your family to become more pals with him... and the two of you would surely having a lot common thoughts regarding a guy like Obama for example or democrats and of course the ever stupied tax cutting ideas of "the party of selfishness" the Republican party!
Just imagine it again....... is it toaly impossible a guy like Timothy or even a stupied fenatic terror minded AsH*** with roots in the Middle east but living in America Ever getting close to those nuces of yours and able to let it go off?
Nothing is impossible and the only way will be if those weapons not existing and thge effort removing that threat is done with a close cooporation amoung all nations and of course buy a very strong organisation of the United Nations of course!
And because you have "of Course" forgot TT....... United Nations did a good job and removed Saddams chemichal weapons and they told you guys so...... but the damn Bushney,s did not care and wanted their oil so bad and did their Sh** any way!
I remeber Bushney,s as that monster and thief Wolfowits talked a bout "Carpet bombing of Mecca" right after 9/11 and suggested that would be the possible mean to stop terrorism as an example and I heard Hagee and Parsley or others like those which were much more important of the Bushney,s regim than you repube heads want to admit talked a bout nucing those muslims and blah blah blah all because of Stupidity and being totaly careless about lives of human beings and the sensitve balance of this tiney planet belonging to us all and not having any ideas about humanity what so ever!
Eight years and u guys have been keep talikng a bout the same and the same and the result is just a deep gap between civilisations and terrorists are there still and sending tons of drugs to our youngsters all over the western world and using the money to buy weapons and using it agaisnt us all as well... why shall your kind of suggestions which I know what are between lines being any good?
What are those weapons good for any way? Do you thinik it is totaly impossible a guy like Timothy James McVeigh who would be if not convicted "your kind of Hero Real American guy" with all his military back round and his being a republican and even a supporter of Libertarism some times and being a member of national rifle association and even blond and so on and not Muslim what so ever in life
..... succeds to gather some stupied AsH**** around him self and taking control of some nuce sites in US and creating a terror attack and blaming Musmlimns for example? Do you really think it is impossible to make the bomb going off and with out the codes no body can do that Sh**? Is that as impossible as hacking deep inside security systesm even that happens too often any way and some times by a kid not older than 13 ????Some horrible accidents and acts of terrorism can happen from guys you can never ever imagine and thats hwy these horrible threats agaisnt us all must get removed some day and the world is a global village after all and there are some Bullys still but even most of them are just human beings who are really mad and some body with a good brain can make them ease and stopping their hatered agaisnt other human beings I am certain..and well those of them who can not be stopped will looses agaisnt the mighty american power and her alliences for sure specially now on days when China and Russia want to work with America in that direction as well!
Would you ever imagine Timothy could be a terrorist if you met him in person a year before he attacked his own countrymen in that horrible way and killed women and children and FBI people who really doing an honorable and hard work to keep Americans safe night and day? I bet you would even like that guy and would have a beer with him and inviting him to Barbecue because of being a nice white young man from republican party with military back round and would even presenting him to girls in your family to become more pals with him... and the two of you would surely having a lot common thoughts regarding a guy like Obama for example or democrats and of course the ever stupied tax cutting ideas of "the party of selfishness" the Republican party!
Just imagine it again....... is it toaly impossible a guy like Timothy or even a stupied fenatic terror minded AsH*** with roots in the Middle east but living in America Ever getting close to those nuces of yours and able to let it go off?
Nothing is impossible and the only way will be if those weapons not existing and thge effort removing that threat is done with a close cooporation amoung all nations and of course buy a very strong organisation of the United Nations of course!
And because you have "of Course" forgot TT....... United Nations did a good job and removed Saddams chemichal weapons and they told you guys so...... but the damn Bushney,s did not care and wanted their oil so bad and did their Sh** any way!
YewEye: Except that it's a map he brought back from Pluto...
Hot_Single_Dude: part two....
I remeber Bushney,s as that monster and thief Wolfowits talked a bout "Carpet bombing of Mecca" right after 9/11 and suggested that would be the possible mean to stop terrorism as an example and I heard Hagee and Parsley or others like those which were much more important of the Bushney,s regim than you repube heads want to admit talked a bout nucing those muslims and blah blah blah all because of Stupidity and being totaly careless about lives of human beings and the sensitve balance of this tiney planet belonging to us all and not having any ideas about humanity what so ever!
Eight years s are there still and sending tons of drugs to our youngsters all over the western world and using the money to buy weapons and using it agaisnt us all as well... why shall your kind of suggestions which I know what are between lines being any good?
What are those weapons good for any way? Do you thinik it is totaly impossible a guy like Timothy James McVeigh who would be if not convicted "your kind of Hero Real American guy" with all his military back round and his being a republican and even a supporter of Libertarism some times and being a member of national rifle association and even blond and so on and not Muslim what so ever in life ..... succeds to gather some stupied AsH**** around him self and taking control of some nuce sites in US and creating a terror attack and blaming Musmlimns for example? Do you really think it is impossible to make the bomb going off and with out the codes no body can do that Sh**? Is that as impossible as hacking deep inside security systesm even that happens too often any way and some times by a kid not older than 13 ????
Some horrible accidents and acts of terrorism can happen from guys you can never ever imagine and thats hwy these horrible threats agaisnt us all must get removed some day and the world is a global village after all and there are some Bullys still but even most of them are just human beings who are really mad and some body with a good brain can make them ease and stopping their hatered agaisnt other human beings I am certain..and well those of them who can not be stopped will looses agaisnt the mighty american power and her alliences for sure specially now on days when China and Russia want to work with America in that direction as well!
Would you ever imagine Timothy could be a terrorist if you met him in person a year before he attacked his own countrymen in that horrible way and killed women and children and FBI people who really doing an honorable and hard work to keep Americans safe night and day? I bet you would even like that guy and would have a beer with him and inviting him to Barbecue because of being a nice white young man from republican party with military back round and would even presenting him to girls in your family to become more pals with him... and the two of you would surely having a lot common thoughts regarding a guy like Obama for example or democrats and of course the ever stupied tax cutting ideas of "the party of selfishness" the Republican party!
Just imagine it again....... is it toaly impossible a guy like Timothy or even a stupied fenatic terror minded AsH*** with roots in the Middle east but living in America Ever getting close to those nuces of yours and able to let it go off?
Nothing is impossible and the only way will be if those weapons not existing and thge effort removing that threat is done with a close cooporation amoung all nations and of course buy a very strong organisation of the United Nations of course!
And because you have "of Course" forgot TT....... United Nations did a good job and removed Saddams chemichal weapons and they told you guys so...... but the damn Bushney,s did not care and wanted their oil so bad and did their Sh** any way!
Do you get like this often?I remeber Bushney,s as that monster and thief Wolfowits talked a bout "Carpet bombing of Mecca" right after 9/11 and suggested that would be the possible mean to stop terrorism as an example and I heard Hagee and Parsley or others like those which were much more important of the Bushney,s regim than you repube heads want to admit talked a bout nucing those muslims and blah blah blah all because of Stupidity and being totaly careless about lives of human beings and the sensitve balance of this tiney planet belonging to us all and not having any ideas about humanity what so ever!
Eight years s are there still and sending tons of drugs to our youngsters all over the western world and using the money to buy weapons and using it agaisnt us all as well... why shall your kind of suggestions which I know what are between lines being any good?
What are those weapons good for any way? Do you thinik it is totaly impossible a guy like Timothy James McVeigh who would be if not convicted "your kind of Hero Real American guy" with all his military back round and his being a republican and even a supporter of Libertarism some times and being a member of national rifle association and even blond and so on and not Muslim what so ever in life ..... succeds to gather some stupied AsH**** around him self and taking control of some nuce sites in US and creating a terror attack and blaming Musmlimns for example? Do you really think it is impossible to make the bomb going off and with out the codes no body can do that Sh**? Is that as impossible as hacking deep inside security systesm even that happens too often any way and some times by a kid not older than 13 ????
Some horrible accidents and acts of terrorism can happen from guys you can never ever imagine and thats hwy these horrible threats agaisnt us all must get removed some day and the world is a global village after all and there are some Bullys still but even most of them are just human beings who are really mad and some body with a good brain can make them ease and stopping their hatered agaisnt other human beings I am certain..and well those of them who can not be stopped will looses agaisnt the mighty american power and her alliences for sure specially now on days when China and Russia want to work with America in that direction as well!
Would you ever imagine Timothy could be a terrorist if you met him in person a year before he attacked his own countrymen in that horrible way and killed women and children and FBI people who really doing an honorable and hard work to keep Americans safe night and day? I bet you would even like that guy and would have a beer with him and inviting him to Barbecue because of being a nice white young man from republican party with military back round and would even presenting him to girls in your family to become more pals with him... and the two of you would surely having a lot common thoughts regarding a guy like Obama for example or democrats and of course the ever stupied tax cutting ideas of "the party of selfishness" the Republican party!
Just imagine it again....... is it toaly impossible a guy like Timothy or even a stupied fenatic terror minded AsH*** with roots in the Middle east but living in America Ever getting close to those nuces of yours and able to let it go off?
Nothing is impossible and the only way will be if those weapons not existing and thge effort removing that threat is done with a close cooporation amoung all nations and of course buy a very strong organisation of the United Nations of course!
And because you have "of Course" forgot TT....... United Nations did a good job and removed Saddams chemichal weapons and they told you guys so...... but the damn Bushney,s did not care and wanted their oil so bad and did their Sh** any way!
Conrad73: That Crap started in Europe right after WWII.
Continental Europeans looking down their Noses at those "Slightly Depped Fellows" from across the water!
Ma I want some Chewing Gum,and the answer,Wanna look like those AMIS!
Ma,I want a Pair of Levi's,you can think the answer to that!
I have already made the best Chewing gum possible for you Conrad ... too salty or some thing Continental Europeans looking down their Noses at those "Slightly Depped Fellows" from across the water!
Ma I want some Chewing Gum,and the answer,Wanna look like those AMIS!
Ma,I want a Pair of Levi's,you can think the answer to that!
Neither party is worth the time or money to sustain them. People need to wake up to the fact that this has been a Badminton Match with the people as the birdie for a long time. Once they reach that realization then something MIGHT be accomplished. Until they quit buying into a system which is corrupt on either side of the match, then people will continue to waste their time talking about this endless and "illuminating" material and in so doing helping to create the apathy which sustains it. YMMV. Have a nice life...
ttom500: I think that I have put together a few dots on why the Stimulus packages to the banks is not getting to main street USA. Banks are not lending to the car companies to aid them. SBA loans are hard to come by. Follow a little.
Yesterday, Fed Treasury Chairman Geither said to a questioning Peking University student asking about the security of the $770b
Chinese Investment into the USA (mostly thru T-bills).
Geither replied.."the USA financial institutions are the most deepest and liquid in the world."
Where as President Obama only a couple of weeks ago said.....
'we are out of money. Into deep deficits.'
So what gives? Who is talking straight to the issue of the countries financial liquidity. They both are and they both are talking smoke.
Geither is in reference to the banks that the two TARP financial package went into. Obama is talking about the countries budget, expenses and revenues.
A individual US citizen can buy T-Bill directly from the FED Gov't. But a foreign party or gov't cannot. They don't have the social security number or other numbers for such a transaction. But banks 'bundle' T-Bills and other government financial paper for foreign parties to buy. They act like 'holding companies' in this business, and its is a very legal business activity.
Those socialist Chinese....wanting interest and principle security on their investment in the US. They almost sound like capitalist nation. :-) But Geither's answer had to leave the Chinese student a little confused, in that the US banks were only 8 months ago in a liquity crisis not seen since the great depression.
And here is where both are blowing smoke. The banks were bailed out by the FED gov't...now they have sold billions to the Chinese and other foreign investors in paper....the banks are holding the FED bailout money to cover the interest and secure the principles to these foreign investors. That reduces the amount of FED bailout money for main street America.
Now who is being greedy, Stress? Vinny? Janski? Obama administration is double dipping the well some. They tell foreign investors...all is well in the US. They tell US citizens we are bankrupt. In the mean time, GM and Crystler cannot get bank loans or bailouts to keep going.
And if the FED fails to make pay on the paper, guess who owns the US banks?
Also remember when Barry Franks said 'we need to reconsider what money is." The FED Gov't under Obama is shifting to financial paper (e.g. T-Bills and other paper), from real estate based
economy. Is what I think.
Well if you gotten this far in this lengthy post. Now consider the $6000b in the global diarivites market that the banks have made. That the Obama administration now wants to regulate the speculation in this market.
My thinking is this here. The Obama administration sees this massive market as competition to its FED paper markets. Best way to restrict a market and gain competitive advantage.....regulate it.
Greed will get you every time.
GM received a bailout plan today worth 30 billion dollers so the company can be saved TT Yesterday, Fed Treasury Chairman Geither said to a questioning Peking University student asking about the security of the $770b
Chinese Investment into the USA (mostly thru T-bills).
Geither replied.."the USA financial institutions are the most deepest and liquid in the world."
Where as President Obama only a couple of weeks ago said.....
'we are out of money. Into deep deficits.'
So what gives? Who is talking straight to the issue of the countries financial liquidity. They both are and they both are talking smoke.
Geither is in reference to the banks that the two TARP financial package went into. Obama is talking about the countries budget, expenses and revenues.
A individual US citizen can buy T-Bill directly from the FED Gov't. But a foreign party or gov't cannot. They don't have the social security number or other numbers for such a transaction. But banks 'bundle' T-Bills and other government financial paper for foreign parties to buy. They act like 'holding companies' in this business, and its is a very legal business activity.
Those socialist Chinese....wanting interest and principle security on their investment in the US. They almost sound like capitalist nation. :-) But Geither's answer had to leave the Chinese student a little confused, in that the US banks were only 8 months ago in a liquity crisis not seen since the great depression.
And here is where both are blowing smoke. The banks were bailed out by the FED gov't...now they have sold billions to the Chinese and other foreign investors in paper....the banks are holding the FED bailout money to cover the interest and secure the principles to these foreign investors. That reduces the amount of FED bailout money for main street America.
Now who is being greedy, Stress? Vinny? Janski? Obama administration is double dipping the well some. They tell foreign investors...all is well in the US. They tell US citizens we are bankrupt. In the mean time, GM and Crystler cannot get bank loans or bailouts to keep going.
And if the FED fails to make pay on the paper, guess who owns the US banks?
Also remember when Barry Franks said 'we need to reconsider what money is." The FED Gov't under Obama is shifting to financial paper (e.g. T-Bills and other paper), from real estate based
economy. Is what I think.
Well if you gotten this far in this lengthy post. Now consider the $6000b in the global diarivites market that the banks have made. That the Obama administration now wants to regulate the speculation in this market.
My thinking is this here. The Obama administration sees this massive market as competition to its FED paper markets. Best way to restrict a market and gain competitive advantage.....regulate it.
Greed will get you every time.
WhatUwish4: It's not your fault, Fil. I think most women tend to get biblical when they see Antonio Banderes in his tightie whities... If you listen you can hear them whispering...."There is a God!!!"
Antonio Banderes HATES republicans Hot_Single_Dude: GM received a bailout plan today worth 30 billion dollers so the company can be saved TT
No GM will first be reorganizated to a midget size company, then given the money. You forgot that part. Meaning the 1100 close dealers, the closed product lines, and factories and jobs are gone....
Hot_Single_Dude: Antonio Banderes HATES republicans
What can you expect from anything coming out of Hollywood these days?
drivenbysound: Good morning..
Off to work, but when I return, I shall shed some light on the misguided ones.
Looking forward to it drivenby..... still too many misguided ones who can not possibly getting it and staying misguided and trying to misguide others as well Off to work, but when I return, I shall shed some light on the misguided ones.
Hot_Single_Dude: Looking forward to it drivenby..... still too many misguided ones who can not possibly getting it and staying misguided and trying to misguide others as well
Damn you're Pathetic!Just read a recent economic assess.....some good and some bad.
Which do you want first, the good or the bad?
OK in the spirit of the Obama Administration, the good and bad. (Note, no ugly in the post)
The constructions sector (housing) and consumer confidence are
up. GOOD
and
Unemployment is at 8.9 and the foreclosure and eviction rate is at 12.1%. BAD
Manufacturing and inventory levels are up and lower. GOOD.
and
Two major US auto firm are in bankrutpcy or headed that way. BAD
Family incomes are up. GOOD.
and
Crude per barrel price is up. BAD
Number of unemployed in the US since Dec 2007 and the start of the recession was 5.6m and in the first quarter of 2009 the economy retracted 5.7%.BAD
and
A the flicker of light at the end of the tunnel has become a beacon of light according one economist. GOOD.
Now a quote from Charles Barkley during the Haney Project.
"I can see the light at the end of the tunnel, I just hope it ain't a train light."
Which do you want first, the good or the bad?
OK in the spirit of the Obama Administration, the good and bad. (Note, no ugly in the post)
The constructions sector (housing) and consumer confidence are
up. GOOD
and
Unemployment is at 8.9 and the foreclosure and eviction rate is at 12.1%. BAD
Manufacturing and inventory levels are up and lower. GOOD.
and
Two major US auto firm are in bankrutpcy or headed that way. BAD
Family incomes are up. GOOD.
and
Crude per barrel price is up. BAD
Number of unemployed in the US since Dec 2007 and the start of the recession was 5.6m and in the first quarter of 2009 the economy retracted 5.7%.BAD
and
A the flicker of light at the end of the tunnel has become a beacon of light according one economist. GOOD.
Now a quote from Charles Barkley during the Haney Project.
"I can see the light at the end of the tunnel, I just hope it ain't a train light."
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I've got to take off, too. Sorry Driven...duty calls.