Hot_Single_Dude: The chineese system is full of crap I beleive and they sure need to modernise people,s minds and hearts and beside understanding that more freedom will be great for China for sure.
Obama is not stepping to any thing like China TT... you see as I have told you many times before China got all of you guys in pocket because of the stupid Bushonomics and before America pays back the huge amount of money, China will be able to keep being a hard line society with huge amounts of social issues and no body can eally doing some thing a bout it.
Really sad events in China lately and it makes us all worried and angry hearing those ... please TT... do not talk a bout those horrible events and then drag Obama in to it mister... all countries have these kinds of criminal activities agianst all humanity mass killings are
Dudester....It was Obama that made the loans with China. It was Obama that did a social health care system. It is Obama that needs China to coalition build against NKorea and Iran.
He didnot need to do them. Had he stepped away from Obamacare, he could have run a small gov't with out the need for the Chinese loans.
GWB left him in a position to pressure either Iran or NKorea alone without coalition building. He has Iran pressed between two large ground forces and the US Navy. NKorea, he had a solid alliance with SKorea from GWB.
But he saw big gov't as the way to go.....and now....unemployment is 9.9%, large number of gov't jobs are years in the future, and he has loaned any future American prosperity to China.
CIA says that alQeada has been allowed to enter and exit Iran. That since 2008, instead of arresting them. Iran has been allowing free passage in and out of the country.
This support my earlier contention that Iran and alQeada have had a long term relationship.
Obvious the one here with the power is Iran. With nation state resources and petro dollars, Iran holds all the cards. Including legal law enforcement abilities to detain the alQeada agents.
So it becomes clearer that alQeada is a proxie for Iran. As a proxie, alQeada has now 'caused deaths in many countries around the world and most are Muslims' as President Obama said in Cairo.
That the 55 Islamic countries have large minority population of Shi'ite has to be the reason that many have not resisted the such proxie operations. They don't wish to become a Lebanon of the 1990s.
So they wink wink at proxie terrorist operations within them. While not being nation state support of terrorism, is nation state acceptance of terrorism. A fine thin line of distinction.
This involves also President Obama ability to coalition build in these countries as well. The cannot leap into American counter terrorism coalitions, as the Shi'ite population would soon be in a Iran ordered rebellion.
Yet these countries have a obligation to their populations to protect them from terrorist act. Acts again ordered from Tehran. But executed by groups like alQeada.
In Iraq, a increase in terrorism has been seen this last week. Bombings and other attacks are increasing desperation acts that gain little but the end of life. With Iraq gov't hosted it most recent election, the question is not about a Islamic democracy now, as to political pulls between Sunni and Shi'ite.
In Afghanistan, at the Obama-Karsai meeting, President Obama said 'hard fighting lay ahead'. Against though a enemy of combined Taliban and alQeada.....proxies of Iran.
As one looks at Islam, one can see how revolutionary Islam of Iran has not just been exported. But has been impressed into the lives of 1000s, that if they refuse are subject to the violence of a alQeada, Taliban or other extremist group.
The head and heart of this, still lays in Tehran. A Tehran that moves steadily to the construction of a nuclear device. With UN sanctions not amounting to a penny, the day draws closer to western intervention in Iran. That is the coalition, that President Obama now needs to build.
Hot_Single_Dude: It was not Bill hime self behind those rockets aimed for Laden and really there are several reports which tell George W Bush did not take the heavy report on terrorism Clinton administration deleivered to the Bushney,s before leaving office. It is easy to deny the past of course but still past does not disapeer any way
Obama being in Cairo was definately not an "opology" tour but a true attempt to begin a new begining and communication with the islamic countries after too many years where thsi comminication was gone and just stayed when talking oil supplies and nothing else. Since Obama islamic countries generally taking things more easy and dod not care much a bout the regim in Iran TT... those mullahs are not that significant any way and a great majrotiy of islamic countries wanting them removed as soon as possible.
Geroge W Bush have never really admitted his mistakes... the man does not know his left or right hand and have not even a clue a bout what he was talking a bout what so ever... he never really got it and he will never going to get it any way... a real Buzo with number first place amoung buzo,s on important jobs Ever in history!Read this and "enjoy" your kind of president TT :
By the way...the Obama administration just cut $62m from NYCity terrorist funding from the Federal gov't. Only 2 weeks after the Time Square bombing. Maybe a mistake as well?
It might not equate to a successful terrorist attack in New York City, but certainly did not get him any votes.
By the way...the Obama administration just cut $62m from NYCity terrorist funding from the Federal gov't. Only 2 weeks after the Time Square bombing. Maybe a mistake as well?
It might not equate to a successful terrorist attack in New York City, but certainly did not get him any votes.
Here's another gem from today's headlines...
"The Obama administration threatened to veto parts of its own health care bill after budget scorekeepers found that the package would add at least $115 billion more to government health care spending."
Obama has told congress to either cut $115 from something or find the money in new taxes. So soon? At least it took many years before the other programs went bankrupt.
ttom500: Dudester....It was Obama that made the loans with China. It was Obama that did a social health care system. It is Obama that needs China to coalition build against NKorea and Iran.
He didnot need to do them. Had he stepped away from Obamacare, he could have run a small gov't with out the need for the Chinese loans.
GWB left him in a position to pressure either Iran or NKorea alone without coalition building. He has Iran pressed between two large ground forces and the US Navy. NKorea, he had a solid alliance with SKorea from GWB.
But he saw big gov't as the way to go.....and now....unemployment is 9.9%, large number of gov't jobs are years in the future, and he has loaned any future American prosperity to China.
This is Pres. O doings.....so far.
The funny thing is toomany beleive in you and have already forgot what Geroge W bush did to your country and particulary to your economy TT! I strongly counting on most people are not buying this kind of propoganda made by your guys and people are not exactly Stupid beleiving in your kind of history telling...keep up your work TT... wish more democrats had the kind of passion as you got defending your ideology, and talked more defending their,s !
ttom500: I knew I should not include McViegh in the post...that you would fixate on him. But there were infants killed in his attack. So felt it only fair to include.
Address the rest of it for us, please.
Of course TT1 McWeigh is much more important to remeber and being named and being compared with when forces of anti americanim Evil trying to get their bloody hands on power and when some so called "patriot" americans like Limbaugh taking side to gether with Taliban... Never A gain
ttom500: CIA says that alQeada has been allowed to enter and exit Iran. That since 2008, instead of arresting them. Iran has been allowing free passage in and out of the country.
This support my earlier contention that Iran and alQeada have had a long term relationship.
Obvious the one here with the power is Iran. With nation state resources and petro dollars, Iran holds all the cards. Including legal law enforcement abilities to detain the alQeada agents.
So it becomes clearer that alQeada is a proxie for Iran. As a proxie, alQeada has now 'caused deaths in many countries around the world and most are Muslims' as President Obama said in Cairo.
That the 55 Islamic countries have large minority population of Shi'ite has to be the reason that many have not resisted the such proxie operations. They don't wish to become a Lebanon of the 1990s.
So they wink wink at proxie terrorist operations within them. While not being nation state support of terrorism, is nation state acceptance of terrorism. A fine thin line of distinction.
This involves also President Obama ability to coalition build in these countries as well. The cannot leap into American counter terrorism coalitions, as the Shi'ite population would soon be in a Iran ordered rebellion.
Yet these countries have a obligation to their populations to protect them from terrorist act. Acts again ordered from Tehran. But executed by groups like alQeada.
In Iraq, a increase in terrorism has been seen this last week. Bombings and other attacks are increasing desperation acts that gain little but the end of life. With Iraq gov't hosted it most recent election, the question is not about a Islamic democracy now, as to political pulls between Sunni and Shi'ite.
In Afghanistan, at the Obama-Karsai meeting, President Obama said 'hard fighting lay ahead'. Against though a enemy of combined Taliban and alQeada.....proxies of Iran.
As one looks at Islam, one can see how revolutionary Islam of Iran has not just been exported. But has been impressed into the lives of 1000s, that if they refuse are subject to the violence of a alQeada, Taliban or other extremist group.
The head and heart of this, still lays in Tehran. A Tehran that moves steadily to the construction of a nuclear device. With UN sanctions not amounting to a penny, the day draws closer to western intervention in Iran. That is the coalition, that President Obama now needs to build.
I am sure real hard sanctions againt Iran is the one and only best answer to cripple the regim in Iran and making the regim change possible exactly like it happened in South Africa years ago and with Clinton as Captian America.
A war against Iran would only making them stronger and that will not be good for any body. I am still wondered why the so called president of Iran and the grand ayatollah from there are not on the list of persons possible to arrest when ever they leave Iran... like it happened regarding Bashir of Sudan or war criminals of Serbia and so on. I wish sooner than later both sanctions and legal terms agaisnt the main power holders of Iran will become reality. We have all had enough of that regim and this word does not need that kind of regim in Iran no more.
By the way...the Obama administration just cut $62m from NYCity terrorist funding from the Federal gov't. Only 2 weeks after the Time Square bombing. Maybe a mistake as well?
It might not equate to a successful terrorist attack in New York City, but certainly did not get him any votes.
TT...
gosh1 what is this any way? You know too many americans does not even bother clicking on links in here any way and some just are satisfide with seeing you provide some links and thinking like ... Oak then TT is right
WhatUwish4: Here's another gem from today's headlines...
"The Obama administration threatened to veto parts of its own health care bill after budget scorekeepers found that the package would add at least $115 billion more to government health care spending."
Obama has told congress to either cut $115 from something or find the money in new taxes. So soon? At least it took many years before the other programs went bankrupt.
I am definate you... like all other patriot republicans of America have studied the links TT provided in his post ... have you not?
very clear why your guys are soooooooooooooooooooo up to date regarding what ever happens over there
When Jan 20th 2008 rolled around....it became the Obama administration. So far? Let we have a massive debt....nothing done on the SW border (other than the AZ law)....growing violence in Iraq .....surge in Afghan to put more targets in the field...inablity to stop Islamic terrorism from the country.....selling off the US to the Chinese....roiling the country in the health care debate.....being abused by the Russians to sign START.....and having Iran thumb their nose at UN sancations....NKorea blowing SKorean vessels out of the water......I give the Obama administation high marks....in appeasement and inability.
Remember we played the batting average game earlier? I said they were hitting 2 for 16 or .125......do that same game today......maybe 4 for 50 or .080. The entire world hold its collective breath for the White House to make decisions.
"I support the puppet on the right, No! i support the puppet who's a so-called 'liberal' is more to my liking blah blah blah" let a true patriot comment
Let me give you some new American lingo that President Obama just saw on a billboard in Buffalo......inafj.....stands for "I Need a Freakin Job"
Americans, we have our ways of communications. Love us or hate us....we do send a message.
Billboard was put up specially for the President's visit. Has smiling faces....OK....some not so smiling faces of 3 men and 1 woman with black inafj t-Shirts on.
Hint a change of attire for your first job interview is suggested. The cutie concept....might get you the phone call.....but the black T-Shirt is way to depressing for most businesses.
With 9.9% unemployed...the President can expect more billboards in his future. He and his got theirs. Billions are going thru the gov't accounting offices for projects that most American have never heard or have a derived service or benefit from.
His oversight plan has been to focus on wall street and banking. But not on gov't. So? Hey with guys like Raines back into power, the money is going some place. Where to and who to the questions to ask but will never be answered.
Pretty sure that when Grant ran his post civil war gov't...the one that was the most corrupt in American history till today. That they had high unemployment as well. They go hand in hand. Corruption and unemployment.
Corruption keeps gov't contracts from being paid. Companies lose confidence in the gov't. They lay of workers. Pretty easy to understand, when you think of it like that.
Visit the I Need a Freakin Job website.....www.inafj.org for some testimony of America's unemployed.
Hot_Single_Dude: The funny thing is toomany beleive in you and have already forgot what Geroge W bush did to your country and particulary to your economy TT! I strongly counting on most people are not buying this kind of propoganda made by your guys and people are not exactly Stupid beleiving in your kind of history telling...keep up your work TT... wish more democrats had the kind of passion as you got defending your ideology, and talked more defending their,s !
ttom500: Dudester....It was Obama that made the loans with China. It was Obama that did a social health care system. It is Obama that needs China to coalition build against NKorea and Iran.
He didnot need to do them. Had he stepped away from Obamacare, he could have run a small gov't with out the need for the Chinese loans.
GWB left him in a position to pressure either Iran or NKorea alone without coalition building. He has Iran pressed between two large ground forces and the US Navy. NKorea, he had a solid alliance with SKorea from GWB.
But he saw big gov't as the way to go.....and now....unemployment is 9.9%, large number of gov't jobs are years in the future, and he has loaned any future American prosperity to China.
This is Pres. O doings.....so far.
What fast moving vehicle did you fall off of TT>>>??? OMG
This is exactly why, when I go somewhere and some small mided idiot begins to speak Politics and has no clue of what the H..l he is talking about...I LEAVE, QUICKLY!
Sommergirl: ttom500: Dudester....It was Obama that made the loans with China. It was Obama that did a social health care system. It is Obama that needs China to coalition build against NKorea and Iran.
He didnot need to do them. Had he stepped away from Obamacare, he could have run a small gov't with out the need for the Chinese loans.
GWB left him in a position to pressure either Iran or NKorea alone without coalition building. He has Iran pressed between two large ground forces and the US Navy. NKorea, he had a solid alliance with SKorea from GWB.
But he saw big gov't as the way to go.....and now....unemployment is 9.9%, large number of gov't jobs are years in the future, and he has loaned any future American prosperity to China.
This is Pres. O doings.....so far.What fast moving vehicle did you fall off of TT>>>??? OMG
This is exactly why, when I go somewhere and some small mided idiot begins to speak Politics and has no clue of what the H..l he is talking about...I LEAVE, QUICKLY!
Oil and water never mix, Sommergirl. So please flee the thread. Or stay and learn. So learn this now.
As Chief Executive Officer, it was his role to set the budget and program policies of the country. In his first 16 months in office, we have had 2.5 time increase in spending over what GWB spent. We have many saying the spending is unsustainable.
Had he choosen a different course here....to a more fiscally responsible government.....there would be little for the Tea Parties to chew on. There would not be this cry from Main Street America...."You Are Spending My Children Future".
So he chose to divide the country with his spending. The country was untied with on his oath of office in January of 2008. He had 70% of the countries support then. Today, is around 45%.
Like his Denver Co Mile High Stadium Nomination Acceptance Show with the Plastic White House Pillars, his government is predicated on spending. Taking us down the same course as Greece. So now he has a divided country, with many wanting to pull down the pillars of the real White House around him. But he did it to himself, GWB did not ask for those loans with China or set the present budget policies.
So my question to you....if you don't understand this.......is what turnip truck did you come into town on?
Sommergirl: ttom500: Dudester....It was Obama that made the loans with China. It was Obama that did a social health care system. It is Obama that needs China to coalition build against NKorea and Iran.
He didnot need to do them. Had he stepped away from Obamacare, he could have run a small gov't with out the need for the Chinese loans.
GWB left him in a position to pressure either Iran or NKorea alone without coalition building. He has Iran pressed between two large ground forces and the US Navy. NKorea, he had a solid alliance with SKorea from GWB.
But he saw big gov't as the way to go.....and now....unemployment is 9.9%, large number of gov't jobs are years in the future, and he has loaned any future American prosperity to China.
This is Pres. O doings.....so far.What fast moving vehicle did you fall off of TT>>>??? OMG
This is exactly why, when I go somewhere and some small mided idiot begins to speak Politics and has no clue of what the H..l he is talking about...I LEAVE, QUICKLY!
Like the first lesson in politics, Turnip?
Here is the second one. If one wants a united country when you lead, you don't ridicule and demean the political opposition. The minority is just that. You stay out of the political fray, as much as possible. To be presidential...to seen as a leader of all the people....to shown as a uniter and not a divider.
President Obama.....just was a lead speaker at a DEM fund raiser. He riase 1.4m for DEM canidates.....but to do so....he demean the GOP. Said they drove teh car into ditch, that he the DEM were pulling back onto the road.....and would not give up the keys.
All done with a chuckle to be gained from the play to the DEM croud.
ONLY.......in our or day of twitter, the chuckle is quickly played on the net, broadcast on FOX and will be heard by REP and IND alike to be demeaning to them.
So turnip, you tell me. Does President Obama want to lead a divided country or a united one? It is his choice. He made it while back.
So as long as President Obama is playing the game in the mud.... what can I say. What goes around comes around, Turnip.
America voted for change and America is seeing change and even time is still hard and even challenges are still huge and painfull... but still several positive signs are seen all over the United States and America is sure coming Back and only the blind in heart is not able to see that!
There is not a damn thing right a bout 50 dead americans each and every single day because of lack of a propper health care and there is not a damn thing right a bout employers who are able to deny health care coverrege to their employees and then a whole government of the Bushney,s calling it "freedom" !
There is not a thing right a bout One procent of americans having Eighty procent of american weatlh and then trying to bash on the rest of americans not being "good enough" to live if they dont have money enough or a well paid job with a good health coverege or can not accept around 50 million country men with no health care coverage what so ever!
When a system disables the poor and the weak and the detainee the possibility to vote then the rich will keep rulling the country and solidarity will be named "communism" and some thing "non american" and threats and suppression and fear will be able to keep too many human beings in chains and able to denial human rights for all children of gud and carelessness!
When a system keeps telling you being the one and only responsible for the disasters in life and removing govermental regulations and allowing huge corporations acting as they are pleased to... then unfairness becomes "all Right" and freedom is translated totaly wrong and taken hostage by enemies of humanity!
Republicans act and talk and walk as if they own America and as if americans who are disagree with them are not good enough calling them selves americans and as if goodness and a wish for more equality is an act of Evil and as if respect for the country,s elected president is against the american constitution!
Things are definately going forward in America and Obama,s administration is working hard to keep the promisses of the president under the campain and even things are not perfect but still concidering the amount of the challenge most of us knowing already that America is going to defeat this hard economical stiatuion and it is time to stop nagging and start opening eyes and feeling better a bout where America generally is to day compairing to the last three years of the Bushney,s on power!
Obama will win in 2012 as well I definately beleive... and Obama will be remembered as one of the best american presidents Ever when his second turm ends around seven years from now.
When Tommy Douglas was alive too many canadians called him a communist and an enemy of Canada and blah blah blah like that but this honorable man enjoyed a great amount of respect after some few years and when the results of his fabulous service was known... and to day he is concidered as THE most important Canadian Ever... thanks to the Universal health care system his work created for Canada!Good men are not afraid of opposition and hatered but dead afraid of stop being good because of Fear!
Yet the Poor Shts at the WH can't get out of their Own Stinking Way! YES THEY CAN'T!
What would you say the ages of these INAFJ are, Conrad? Late 20s and early30s? Looks like some disenfranchised DEM X-Gens here that supported Pres. O in his canidancy in 2008.
Man, what a emotional clobbbering it had to be. To support Obama canidancy with your heart and soul...he wins the Presidency.... you think that are going to change....Hope and Change, he promised them to you..and 18 month later.....you still cannot find a job.
It is like Thelma and Louise at the cliff. You have done every humanely position to make the change and to have the American dream. Then you see massive gov't deficits that are going to need your tax money for the 4 generations of your life.
You see unemployment at 9.9%. You see Obama fat cats making money just by sitting in a office. You see the border still open bring drug into your community for your kids. You see illegals here taking the job you need.....
I would call that...........fustrating....extremely fustrating. What do you call it, turnip?
Correct me if I am wrong here. Did not President Obama back out of a trip to Indonesia a while back? Am pretty sure he did.
Well.....guess what?
Indonesian police just uncovered a Mumbia, India attack being planned in Indonesia. It was a attack to go after the President of Indonesia and westerns...specially Americans.
The Police uncovered this back in Feb....what time was Obama go to Indonesia? Let me check....brb......they postphoned the trip.... March 19th. No kidding hose'.
I had a feeling there was more to his staying home than what mentioned. Guess we now know.
LOL....look like our counter terrorism security works for one American.But it kind of failed NY City a few weeks ago.
Speaking of which....they have arrested several Pakistani in the US related to the Times Square attack. No charges yet and like not read their Miranda rights. So kind of just being held.....for test of the new Obama counter terrorism rules. I guess.
ttom500: Correct me if I am wrong here. Did not President Obama back out of a trip to Indonesia a while back? Am pretty sure he did.
Well.....guess what?
Indonesian police just uncovered a Mumbia, India attack being planned in Indonesia. It was a attack to go after the President of Indonesia and westerns...specially Americans.
The Police uncovered this back in Feb....what time was Obama go to Indonesia? Let me check....brb......they postphoned the trip.... March 19th. No kidding hose'.
I had a feeling there was more to his staying home than what mentioned. Guess we now know.
LOL....look like our counter terrorism security works for one American.But it kind of failed NY City a few weeks ago.
Speaking of which....they have arrested several Pakistani in the US related to the Times Square attack. No charges yet and like not read their Miranda rights. So kind of just being held.....for test of the new Obama counter terrorism rules. I guess.
Just read it a while ago,Arrestees probably part of the Underground Money Network!
ttom500: Correct me if I am wrong here. Did not President Obama back out of a trip to Indonesia a while back? Am pretty sure he did.
Well.....guess what?
Indonesian police just uncovered a Mumbia, India attack being planned in Indonesia. It was a attack to go after the President of Indonesia and westerns...specially Americans.
The Police uncovered this back in Feb....what time was Obama go to Indonesia? Let me check....brb......they postphoned the trip.... March 19th. No kidding hose'.
I had a feeling there was more to his staying home than what mentioned. Guess we now know.
LOL....look like our counter terrorism security works for one American.But it kind of failed NY City a few weeks ago.
Speaking of which....they have arrested several Pakistani in the US related to the Times Square attack. No charges yet and like not read their Miranda rights. So kind of just being held.....for test of the new Obama counter terrorism rules. I guess.
I just visited the State Department Travel Warning....warning specific to terrorist threats. Want to take a guess what was for Indoneisa?
Nope.... nada....President Obama gets a warning and keeps clear of the country, but not the rest of the country. We could have gone to Indonesia and been suichi. Sure like how they look out for us, Conrad. They sure know how to keep us safe....
ttom500: Like the first lesson in politics, Turnip?
Here is the second one. If one wants a united country when you lead, you don't ridicule and demean the political opposition. The minority is just that. You stay out of the political fray, as much as possible. To be presidential...to seen as a leader of all the people....to shown as a uniter and not a divider.
President Obama.....just was a lead speaker at a DEM fund raiser. He riase 1.4m for DEM canidates.....but to do so....he demean the GOP. Said they drove teh car into ditch, that he the DEM were pulling back onto the road.....and would not give up the keys.
All done with a chuckle to be gained from the play to the DEM croud.
ONLY.......in our or day of twitter, the chuckle is quickly played on the net, broadcast on FOX and will be heard by REP and IND alike to be demeaning to them.
So turnip, you tell me. Does President Obama want to lead a divided country or a united one? It is his choice. He made it while back.
So as long as President Obama is playing the game in the mud.... what can I say. What goes around comes around, Turnip.
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Obama is not stepping to any thing like China TT... you see as I have told you many times before China got all of you guys in pocket because of the stupid Bushonomics and before America pays back the huge amount of money, China will be able to keep being a hard line society with huge amounts of social issues and no body can eally doing some thing a bout it.
Really sad events in China lately and it makes us all worried and angry hearing those ... please TT... do not talk a bout those horrible events and then drag Obama in to it mister... all countries have these kinds of criminal activities agianst all humanity mass killings are
Dudester....It was Obama that made the loans with China. It was Obama that did a social health care system. It is Obama that needs China to coalition build against NKorea and Iran.
He didnot need to do them. Had he stepped away from Obamacare, he could have run a small gov't with out the need for the Chinese loans.
GWB left him in a position to pressure either Iran or NKorea alone without coalition building. He has Iran pressed between two large ground forces and the US Navy. NKorea, he had a solid alliance with SKorea from GWB.
But he saw big gov't as the way to go.....and now....unemployment is 9.9%, large number of gov't jobs are years in the future, and he has loaned any future American prosperity to China.
This is Pres. O doings.....so far.