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May 6, 2010 4:17 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500: The Moscow University had been takened earlier yesterday by Somalian pirates in the Indian Ocean, A successful Russian joint naval and marine operation freed the 23 man crew of the Moscow University and captured 10 pirates.

With its main cannon blasting, the Marshal Shaposnokov and its helo carrying a assault team. This landed on on the Moscow University decks to make a assault on the 11 pirates. 10 surrendered after one pirate was killed.

The Moscow University was loaded with $50m of crude when it was taken.

What is interesting about this.....is the speed that the Marshal
Shapoanokov arrived on the seen to the make the high sea assault.
Almost like the Russian knew that the Moscow Univeristy was going to be taken. Because the Russian naval presence in the Indian Ocean is slim to none.

Remember the Ukraine freighter taken awhile back? It took the Russians nearly a full week to get a Naval vessel to it for that crisis to be resolved.

So either the Russian are deploying more resources to Indian Ocean or the ones that they are placing there are getting intel on the
pirate attacks. The Moscow University was going from the Red Sea to China with this load of crude. Was some 500 miles into the Indian Ocean when it was taken. This area is out of the normal patrol area of both NATO/US Naval vessels. But you have a lone Russian Destroyer within a 1 day sail of the disabled Moscow University?

My spider senses are tingling......"it is one big ocean out there" as one old sea salt said when they were tracking German raiders in WWII. Or Russians might just be using satellite imagery on the pirate mother ships and are playing a game of high sea cat and mouse.
Oh how those Pirates wish they were in US-Custody!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
May 6, 2010 4:20 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: The Moscow University had been takened earlier yesterday by Somalian pirates in the Indian Ocean, A successful Russian joint naval and marine operation freed the 23 man crew of the Moscow University and captured 10 pirates.

With its main cannon blasting, the Marshal Shaposnokov and its helo carrying a assault team. This landed on on the Moscow University decks to make a assault on the 11 pirates. 10 surrendered after one pirate was killed.

The Moscow University was loaded with $50m of crude when it was taken.

What is interesting about this.....is the speed that the Marshal
Shapoanokov arrived on the seen to the make the high sea assault.
Almost like the Russian knew that the Moscow Univeristy was going to be taken. Because the Russian naval presence in the Indian Ocean is slim to none.

Remember the Ukraine freighter taken awhile back? It took the Russians nearly a full week to get a Naval vessel to it for that crisis to be resolved.

So either the Russian are deploying more resources to Indian Ocean or the ones that they are placing there are getting intel on the
pirate attacks. The Moscow University was going from the Red Sea to China with this load of crude. Was some 500 miles into the Indian Ocean when it was taken. This area is out of the normal patrol area of both NATO/US Naval vessels. But you have a lone Russian Destroyer within a 1 day sail of the disabled Moscow University?

My spider senses are tingling......"it is one big ocean out there" as one old sea salt said when they were tracking German raiders in WWII. Or Russians might just be using satellite imagery on the pirate mother ships and are playing a game of high sea cat and mouse.


All major powers are involvong around somalian waters and are doing what ever possible to stop these pirats and this very stupid situation regarding openly piracy is not good fro any body what so ever and even small countries like denmark have done several successful missions regarding these attacks and the results seems rather fabulous and the numbers of successfull attacks have fallen major time.

Beside this... there is a real cooporation amoung nations in somali waters and one wishes that this important fight agaisnt pirats over there leads to even more real cooporation against our common problems and by that a blossom of mor epeace and stability in the world.

Way to go marines thumbs up
May 6, 2010 4:23 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Sorry about the spilt coffee, Dude. Was the preliminary report here.
Oh ok ... no harm done . Good it was not a real attack... I hope this stupid person is going to hang on his balls major time because of making such a horrible thing and threatening people very mad
May 6, 2010 4:25 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
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Hot_Single_Dude: Interesting and very "political" answer TT

Still I am not seeing any answer and I conclude the answer I always see in your posts in here and the answer is:

you and your guys beleive that republicans and their eendrosers are REAL americans and others are definately not and are all against America, socilaist, communist... blah blah blah

"Cute" beleif some how and truely contra romantic as well but still very definately wrong kind of beleive and making your guys,s ideology rather weak and made of "paper" only and easy to blow off if oponents know where to blow and taking them selves seriously enough and not changing side just because of some gas in stomack and an argument with wifey


Political correctness is rubbing off on us. Here it long enough and you know how to give a politically correct reply to a question.

No REP are not American Dude...we all know that they are war monger and babe killers....crazed military types from the days of Viet Nam.

Yes! Of course they are Americans. So is a diverse number of other peoples, cultures and races. And my danish friend, many of these were in Viet Nam as well. One I know was a Chinese American that was a First Lt in the armor there.

For you ask these kinds of question in the of the melted global planet, says lot. Don't they have black persons living in Denmark? No Chinese? Hispanics? Or is Denmark so void of this global color spectrum, is the uniqueness of American color spectrum blinding to you?
May 6, 2010 4:44 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
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Conrad73: Oh how those Pirates wish they were in US-Custody!


How do you like your Borsch, Conrad? Cold or Hot? I doubt the captured pirate will get a any hot borsch for any time soon.

Interesting legal point here. The US has set the legal presence to return pirates to the country of attack for trial. So?

Means Russia will take these 10 to Moscow for Russian jursipurdence.
Of the 10, I bet 2 are over 20, the rest from 14 to 19. Quiet a culturally and environmentally challenging trip from the warm waters of Indian Ocean to the icy lands of Siberia for these teens.

Odds of a liberal international human right group coming to speak for these teens? About as good as my American Lion had to win the Kentucky Derby....13 to 1. In fact my American Lion had better odd I think. These 10 are up a creek without a paddle or a canoe.

Do they have the death penalty in Russia for piracy? I don't know.
But would not be surprised if they don't. Vikings remember? grin
if you hear of 10 Somalian pirates shouting ODIN, ODIN, ODIN the near future, in a Russia's Butrykia prison....don't be surprised.
May 6, 2010 4:47 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Political correctness is rubbing off on us. Here it long enough and you know how to give a politically correct reply to a question.

No REP are not American Dude...we all know that they are war monger and babe killers....crazed military types from the days of Viet Nam.

Yes! Of course they are Americans. So is a diverse number of other peoples, cultures and races. And my danish friend, many of these were in Viet Nam as well. One I know was a Chinese American that was a First Lt in the armor there.

For you ask these kinds of question in the of the melted global planet, says lot. Don't they have black persons living in Denmark? No Chinese? Hispanics? Or is Denmark so void of this global color spectrum, is the uniqueness of American color spectrum blinding to you?


Still you are like squising your answer in a very interesting manner TT but I am not like biting any way and still I can see your answer like: Republicans are more "Americans" than other americans because you beleive military is mostly republican and by that they have the main right to take power in America and because America is all a bout past and present time Wars and not much else. laugh

Repulcians are americans and democrats and independent are americans and so on and the main thing is who is best to run the country which is a major power and very important for the sake of the whole planet when it is a bout peace, stability, economical ability, environment, scinece and you name it...

but ok if you want to say like: " No REP are not American Dude...we all know that they are war monger and babe killers....crazed military types from the days of Viet Nam." I am not going to argue much because of simple politness...grin... I do not agree with you some how because a handful of Stupid former power holders who created the worse regim in America in the dark years of 2001-2008 are not simply the whole republican party of America and if these sad mad remainings of the past regim are still those running this Failed political idea in America... then not my problem any way and actually some thing giving a guy like me a lot of Hope some how thumbs up

Vietnam vets? So what? people participated in THE most Stupid war in american history should be more eligable to decide the shape America to be formed in the Feauter? Come on TT... give me a Break! 'old grumpy PTSD McCain types? Why? Have America really runned out of wise young flesh with better abilities than how to fosfor bomb vietnamees or some thing because of a STUPID Fear of an ideology ? REDS are coming REDs are coming They are going to Eat you ... hihi pretty Silly stuff and a great cause of "Laughter" if not thinking a bout this STUPIED fear actually made three million plus vietnamees and 60 tousands americans parish for ever and not a damn thing else!
May 6, 2010 6:43 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
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Dude it mere a twist on words you play here. You are either American or you not. One is not more or less American than another. The US of A is either ones home country or its not.

So more or less American? I don't think so.

This just in....the Time Square bomber had a connection to al-Awali.

The last of the Navy SEAL was released.

And the Stock market took a 1000 point header. They are saying it was on a trading error. Cough cough. Or maybe some new Obama regulators cannot see such a dive of Greece, happen on the Obama watch.

This one needs to be watched closely.

First time I have hear of a billion dollar mistake on the NYSE....you got to admit....not a common thing...and just when the
Greece thingee is happened. I see one trader's commission check being slashed. I wonder if he is a Obama supporter......
May 7, 2010 3:05 AM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
daehkcid
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Hot_Single_Dude: Still you are like squising your answer in a very interesting manner TT but I am not like biting any way and still I can see your answer like: Republicans are more "Americans" than other americans because you beleive military is mostly republican and by that they have the main right to take power in America and because America is all a bout past and present time Wars and not much else.

Repulcians are americans and democrats and independent are americans and so on and the main thing is who is best to run the country which is a major power and very important for the sake of the whole planet when it is a bout peace, stability, economical ability, environment, scinece and you name it...

but ok if you want to say like: " No REP are not American Dude...we all know that they are war monger and babe killers....crazed military types from the days of Viet Nam." I am not going to argue much because of simple politness...... I do not agree with you some how because a handful of Stupid former power holders who created the worse regim in America in the dark years of 2001-2008 are not simply the whole republican party of America and if these sad mad remainings of the past regim are still those running this Failed political idea in America... then not my problem any way and actually some thing giving a guy like me a lot of Hope some how

Vietnam vets? So what? people participated in THE most Stupid war in american history should be more eligable to decide the shape America to be formed in the Feauter? Come on TT... give me a Break! 'old grumpy PTSD McCain types? Why? Have America really runned out of wise young flesh with better abilities than how to fosfor bomb vietnamees or some thing because of a STUPID Fear of an ideology ? REDS are coming REDs are coming They are going to Eat you ... hihi pretty Silly stuff and a great cause of "Laughter" if not thinking a bout this STUPIED fear actually made three million plus vietnamees and 60 tousands americans parish for ever and not a damn thing else!


Post #459 and still the Village Idiot.......
May 7, 2010 7:51 AM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
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LOL Our Russian cooperating friends have released the Somalian pirates.......for international legal loopholes reasons. I think that this was Russia making a statement to Somalian pirates. You board one of our ship on the high seas we will send a assault team in a firin baby.

Russia realized that the message if spoken from Siberia, after a Moscow wold not have the direct impact if spoken to piurating friends back in Somalia. So Russia after having them 1 day, lets them go. Not sure you get much intell from a such a short term questioning.

But the Russian are known for getting info as fast as possible with as short a line to breaking the Geneva Convention as can be done.
With the release, if the rules were bent or busted....who is ever going to find out?

The NATO commander that yesterday was complementing the Russian operation has to be today ...going.... WTF......to use a Joe Biden here. You can make a near prefect assault, but you cannot take them off the high seas and out of my hair for the next 25 years?

Well...this is a possible solution to GITMO that the Russians are giving to Pres. Obama. Just let them all go. Not sure how well that would float in the US were bombs are showing up in Time Square. With a about 20% going back to the fight, we could call the release GITMO prisoners that do back into the fight.....The Obama Team...

You know a take off on the A-Team concept. Am just not sure you got a face man, muscle man, a thinker, and wacko in GITMO. Most are all pretty dedicated hardline Islamic radicals. Maybe better to call them the Obama Crew.

My question now is....when the Russians released them....did they apologize to them as well? It seem only propper. That if you have broken the international laws in the recovery your hijacked ship from pirates, that you then apologize to them for the inconveince and the killing of a buddy pirate. Fair is fair.....well not sure about that in our legally loop-wholed and political correct world of today.

Any one up for a little modern day high seas piracy? The Caribbean is pretty good picking these days, I hear. Heck if countries are going to release them faster than Johnny Depp can dive off a cliff to escape his capture by the law of the sea. Then seems to be a wink wink new business opportunity that gov't are making.
May 7, 2010 8:20 AM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500: LOL Our Russian cooperating friends have released the Somalian pirates.......for international legal loopholes reasons. I think that this was Russia making a statement to Somalian pirates. You board one of our ship on the high seas we will send a assault team in a firin baby.

Russia realized that the message if spoken from Siberia, after a Moscow wold not have the direct impact if spoken to piurating friends back in Somalia. So Russia after having them 1 day, lets them go. Not sure you get much intell from a such a short term questioning.

But the Russian are known for getting info as fast as possible with as short a line to breaking the Geneva Convention as can be done.
With the release, if the rules were bent or busted....who is ever going to find out?

The NATO commander that yesterday was complementing the Russian operation has to be today ...going.... WTF......to use a Joe Biden here. You can make a near prefect assault, but you cannot take them off the high seas and out of my hair for the next 25 years?

Well...this is a possible solution to GITMO that the Russians are giving to Pres. Obama. Just let them all go. Not sure how well that would float in the US were bombs are showing up in Time Square. With a about 20% going back to the fight, we could call the release GITMO prisoners that do back into the fight.....The Obama Team...

You know a take off on the A-Team concept. Am just not sure you got a face man, muscle man, a thinker, and wacko in GITMO. Most are all pretty dedicated hardline Islamic radicals. Maybe better to call them the Obama Crew.

My question now is....when the Russians released them....did they apologize to them as well? It seem only propper. That if you have broken the international laws in the recovery your hijacked ship from pirates, that you then apologize to them for the inconveince and the killing of a buddy pirate. Fair is fair.....well not sure about that in our legally loop-wholed and political correct world of today.

Any one up for a little modern day high seas piracy? The Caribbean is pretty good picking these days, I hear. Heck if countries are going to release them faster than Johnny Depp can dive off a cliff to escape his capture by the law of the sea. Then seems to be a wink wink new business opportunity that gov't are making.
Well,they might have let them go like this!




grin
May 7, 2010 9:41 AM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
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Conrad73: Well,they might have let them go like this!



As I mentioned earlier it was screwy (great all time American word there) for the Russians to have a destroyer within a day sail of the Moscow University. The Indian Ocean is not their back yard waters and a pretty big place.

Not only that...how many Russian Destroyers carry a compliment of Russian Marines abroad for making a helo assault? Destroyers are are cramped and crouded places. Hot bunking alone had to give the crew and marine bad words....if this was a new kind of patrol operation for the Russian.

So placing a squad or more of highly trained Spetnez types into the middle of the Indian ocean on a destroyer patrol...without knowing something was not going down? Not very Russian like. They like everything planned to the nth detail.

You know this reminds more and more of the Arctic Sea. Suddenly the hi jackers disappear into the the never land of Dorthy and Totto. Never to be seen again. (Yea right). Maybe our Russian friends have put together is a High Sea special covert operation unit.

Anyone seen pics of these Somalian pirate hijackers that Russian took on the Moscow University? I have not. Is all we have is the
Russian word that a hi jacking occurred and the ship was recovered in a furious fire fight aboard a tanker with a load of highly flamable crude? Crude that make massive fire balls if hit by a stray round.

The more I think about this one...the more I think that the Russian have more than just holes in their international law to piracy and have some few holes in the Moscow University recovery story.
May 7, 2010 4:48 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
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I was about to click off for the day....5:30 on a Friday here....should be in pub and thinking what is for diner. But if you have picked up on this....Gov't PR types have learned that late Friday is the time best report any bad news.

Usually they are spoon feeding it, to novice reporters that are clueless to the questions to ask that gets to the heart of the story. Why? Everyone is at his favor pub trying to forget the week.
So newslines put the rookies out there on Friday evenings.

So if you are die hard political pundit....stay online late on Friday. If the administration has some thing it wants buried, is embarressing, or covered in a long weekend of minutea news, it comes out then.

Want came out?

The US unemployment rose from 9.7% to 9.9% last month. And the reporter that got to write it up...is saying that this was a good thing....just a moment....let me barf I bet this guy voted five time for Obama.

Thank you, I feel better now.

He is kind of right. But he missed the big story. Unemployment rose. If the economy was solid and growing, it fallen again. But he tap dances that issue. To say it could have been worse.....

Okie dokie.....we have a pie in the shy, true believer here. I will not hold that against him. When he get to be 50, and looks back at this piece in his reporting file.....he will get the idea of what honest reporting is then.

While back at the White House...Rob Emanuel is calling his man at labor....and aaking...."How did the release on the unemployment increase go, Fred?

Fred ever mindful of who he is talking to here, says..."Mr. Emanual, just like you said it would. The liberal media bigs had gone for a long weekend. And they left the newbies in the room....only 4 of them. 2 were sleeping. 1 was on her blackberry to her boyfriend. And 1 thought it was great that we now have unemployment at 9.9%."

"Fred that is really good, nice job man. You can continue to have yours next week. Fred did you get the guy's name that was awake and thought it was good news?"

"Yes...is Rick Newman."

"Fred...one last thing...can you invite him to the next President Obama press conference if and when we decide to do another?"

"Sure Mr. Emanuel, I can do that"

May 7, 2010 5:35 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Cowhand
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help I don't think so... Obama just done a lot of things - too many dislike...... some even believe he's a socialist..... well - the last he's not - he never could be... But time will show - what he will have on his list - the time, he's not in The White House any more....



Oh some are remebered - because hey became heroes for a lot - even their enemies.... and that's a fact..laugh
May 7, 2010 6:02 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: I was about to click off for the day....5:30 on a Friday here....should be in pub and thinking what is for diner. But if you have picked up on this....Gov't PR types have learned that late Friday is the time best report any bad news.

Usually they are spoon feeding it, to novice reporters that are clueless to the questions to ask that gets to the heart of the story. Why? Everyone is at his favor pub trying to forget the week.
So newslines put the rookies out there on Friday evenings.

So if you are die hard political pundit....stay online late on Friday. If the administration has some thing it wants buried, is embarressing, or covered in a long weekend of minutea news, it comes out then.

Want came out?

The US unemployment rose from 9.7% to 9.9% last month. And the reporter that got to write it up...is saying that this was a good thing....just a moment....let me I bet this guy voted five time for Obama.

Thank you, I feel better now.

He is kind of right. But he missed the big story. Unemployment rose. If the economy was solid and growing, it fallen again. But he tap dances that issue. To say it could have been worse.....

Okie dokie.....we have a pie in the shy, true believer here. I will not hold that against him. When he get to be 50, and looks back at this piece in his reporting file.....he will get the idea of what honest reporting is then.

While back at the White House...Rob Emanuel is calling his man at labor....and aaking...."How did the release on the unemployment increase go, Fred?

Fred ever mindful of who he is talking to here, says..."Mr. Emanual, just like you said it would. The liberal media bigs had gone for a long weekend. And they left the newbies in the room....only 4 of them. 2 were sleeping. 1 was on her blackberry to her boyfriend. And 1 thought it was great that we now have unemployment at 9.9%."

"Fred that is really good, nice job man. You can continue to have yours next week. Fred did you get the guy's name that was awake and thought it was good news?"

"Yes...is Rick Newman."

"Fred...one last thing...can you invite him to the next President Obama press conference if and when we decide to do another?"

"Sure Mr. Emanuel, I can do that"




Do you ever read any thing other than Yahoo News and from pages like:

"Sorry, the page you were looking for could not be found"

...TT? ever? confused
May 7, 2010 6:54 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
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Hot_Single_Dude: Do you ever read any thing other than Yahoo News and from pages like:

"Sorry, the page you were looking for could not be found"

...TT? ever?


Even Yahoo could not believe the guy could write such a piece....so they pulled it.....
May 8, 2010 6:13 AM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
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The PB oil rig fire/explosion was caused by a methane gas release from the well head that bubbled to the surface. And trigger explosion on the rig. This according to a PB investigation report. So looks like terrorism can be scratched out.

This just in......other are questioning the Russian assault on the
Moscow University.

My question for the day.....if the Russian run covert high sea operations like this, how can they be trusted in the START agreement.

Here is my take on the Russians reason for the covert operation on the Moscow University. Medvedev and Putin have had of serises of
Islamic terrroist attack within Russia and even Moscow. Unable to
'sweep the sewers', as it was so said.....

they both needed some victory here in counter terrorism.

So?

Run a guarranteed media success story/covert operation with the assault on a captured Russian tanker. Become heroes of Russia once again.

Politicians, they give each other good names. Pres. Obama just signed START with these guys? His pen must have withered as it met the paper.

The problem with this one is. Assuming it was a covert operation.
NATO and the US diverted ships and helos from the Somalian coastal
patrols and broke up their planned operations to aid the Russian. If one remember several day prior to the Moscow University taking, Islamic were retaking port cities from the pirates. Creating a great opportunity for NATO/US to retake some of the 300 that been
pirated.

Like one can consider that some of the 300 now held by the pirates,
are there because the Russian decided to run a covert operation in the region.

I hope that when START comes to the Senate for ratification. That this, the Kgrgyistan coup, the Geogorian HEUs and the Polish President Aircraft crash are all part of our Senator's questioning
of Obama Administration officials. Russia has exceeded international goodwill and has gotten people killed and injured by her misguided use of covert operations.
May 8, 2010 9:26 AM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
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Palestine just agreed to "indirect talks" with Israel. In the middle eastern terms..."indirect talks" is a polite way of saying....we will talk from our side of the fence, while you talk from your side of the fence.

Seeing that they have 25 foot high concrete walls in many parts of Israel.... these talks should take awhile before every body is on the side of the fence to talk face to face.

At least they can talk to each other with mega phones and loud speakers. All the time.....Israel looks at a arming Iran....and says to self....heck with talks....find my nuc button and make sure my jets are warmed up.

With the Arab League pushing Palestines to do talks of any kind with Israel.....Palestine are between a rock and a hard place. The Arab League can restrict greatly the aid coming to Palestine from Iran.

I am sure there there are a few stumbling blocks....and few surprises to come......but get ready for middle east peace. But the light grows bigger in the tunnel.

A Middle east peace I might ad.....that would not have happened unless the the US coliation in Iraq and the NATO coliation in
Afghanistan did not have Iran between them. Because instead of feeling secure enough to talk, Israel would be would be manning those planes and testing the doors of their missile silos.

Nice job.....everyone that has every worked for or prayed about middle east.....at least we got them to the table.

Still think that Iraq was a dumb war, Dude?
May 8, 2010 4:11 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
jlw45: Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!?....

dude, you really need to lay off the hash bars for awhile...
Actually I dislke Hash ... so you guessed Wroing a gain Mister grin

But I beleive legalising hash and allowing medical usage of Hash will be good for the society and will stop a lot horrible crimes because the damn thing is illegal. Many weak personalities are dependent on that and making it illegal making their lives realy miserable. legalising Hash under controled measures like in Netherland would be perfectly ok with medunno
May 8, 2010 4:14 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
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Conrad73: I addition to all that External Pressure from Foreign Countries like The Kingdom of Denmark!
I believe Hamlet was right!


There is some thing wrong in the state of Switzerland... so many rich dictators and criminals stealing people,s money and hidng it there tongue
May 8, 2010 4:24 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Even Yahoo could not believe the guy could write such a piece....so they pulled it.....
Yahoo news is used major time by you and Conrad and other right winged TT... is it becasue Yahoo is not even real news agency and just some regular guys who try to play journalists and expressing their views as they wish to with out being responsibile for evidences and so on? wink Really TT... why Glenn Beck and the rest of the bunch loving this Yahoo thing?
May 8, 2010 4:28 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude: There is some thing wrong in the state of Switzerland... so many rich dictators and criminals stealing people,s money and hidng it there
You wish!
It is hidden right under your nose in Copenhagen!
Nothing wonderful about Copenhagen anymore,so Prince Hamlet was right after all,There is Something Rotten In The State Of Denmark!
But what can you expect from a Country that wanted to go to War with Iran over Pastry!uh oh


May 8, 2010 4:58 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Palestine just agreed to "indirect talks" with Israel. In the middle eastern terms..."indirect talks" is a polite way of saying....we will talk from our side of the fence, while you talk from your side of the fence.

Seeing that they have 25 foot high concrete walls in many parts of Israel.... these talks should take awhile before every body is on the side of the fence to talk face to face.

At least they can talk to each other with mega phones and loud speakers. All the time.....Israel looks at a arming Iran....and says to self....heck with talks....find my nuc button and make sure my jets are warmed up.

With the Arab League pushing Palestines to do talks of any kind with Israel.....Palestine are between a rock and a hard place. The Arab League can restrict greatly the aid coming to Palestine from Iran.

I am sure there there are a few stumbling blocks....and few surprises to come......but get ready for middle east peace. But the light grows bigger in the tunnel.

A Middle east peace I might ad.....that would not have happened unless the the US coliation in Iraq and the NATO coliation in
Afghanistan did not have Iran between them. Because instead of feeling secure enough to talk, Israel would be would be manning those planes and testing the doors of their missile silos.

Nice job.....everyone that has every worked for or prayed about middle east.....at least we got them to the table.

Still think that Iraq was a dumb war, Dude?


Sure Iraq was a Dumb war TT Exactly as almost any thing else George W Bush and Cheney to gehter barfed on America under their bloody years on powergrin

I beleive this current israeli government is a real distater for Israel and for the peace process and these guys are so deeply corrupted that they need to keep the fire hot and other wise people are going to ask many many questions... and actually I beleive Sharon was the one less corrupted right winged israeli politician and that,s why he some how tried to create a kind of peace and showing some real results when he still was on power.

The rest of the bunch of these current israeli power holders... bad news for that fabulous country and bad news for the rest of the world as well because their Sh** keeps blowing under the fire and will not allow real peace blossom in that too important area to ignore.

As long as Netanyahou and the rest of his sad and mad bunch keep insulting the american administration then they sure are the most favourite people for the whole group of big capital repube heads and their endorsers ... but still... Israel,s very existens is because of friendship of America and because of the Mercy of America even and they really truely better behave and will beahve some times soon, as I have promised before innocent

Let me see... how much money America can like... all of sudden taking out of Israel,s economy ... wow! Many american economical problems will be solved fast and easy that way! universal health care for all americans with no problems what so ever, really cheap loans to americans and then being able to buy homes a gain, after war treatment for all american military personal, free high grade education for all kids of less fortuned americans, job creation in Peace industryand american know how to rebuilt... and the list of what America can use that huge amount of money for is long and we are really truely talking a bout a HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY conversing

Their Nucs TT? Nah... still a deep going corrupted israeli government sucks and they better leaving power to other israelies who are able to Think and Talk and Negotiate and Care... Bushney,s are Gone and they are not there to Nanny the war monger israeli government no more doh
May 8, 2010 5:00 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Conrad73: You wish!
It is hidden right under your nose in Copenhagen!
Nothing wonderful about Copenhagen anymore,so Prince Hamlet was right after all,There is Something Rotten In The State Of Denmark!
But what can you expect from a Country that wanted to go to War with Iran over Pastry!
Yep...that war was a silly war laugh
May 8, 2010 5:18 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
This is "alomst" Exactly what I am talking a bout... Read and think:

May 8, 2010 6:15 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Sure Iraq was a Dumb war TT Exactly as almost any thing else George W Bush and Cheney to gehter barfed on America under their bloody years on power

I beleive this current israeli government is a real distater for Israel and for the peace process and these guys are so deeply corrupted that they need to keep the fire hot and other wise people are going to ask many many questions... and actually I beleive Sharon was the one less corrupted right winged israeli politician and that,s why he some how tried to create a kind of peace and showing some real results when he still was on power.

The rest of the bunch of these current israeli power holders... bad news for that fabulous country and bad news for the rest of the world as well because their Sh** keeps blowing under the fire and will not allow real peace blossom in that too important area to ignore.

As long as Netanyahou and the rest of his sad and mad bunch keep insulting the american administration then they sure are the most favourite people for the whole group of big capital repube heads and their endorsers ... but still... Israel,s very existens is because of friendship of America and because of the Mercy of America even and they really truely better behave and will beahve some times soon, as I have promised before

Let me see... how much money America can like... all of sudden taking out of Israel,s economy ... wow! Many american economical problems will be solved fast and easy that way! universal health care for all americans with no problems what so ever, really cheap loans to americans and then being able to buy homes a gain, after war treatment for all american military personal, free high grade education for all kids of less fortuned americans, job creation in Peace industryand american know how to rebuilt... and the list of what America can use that huge amount of money for is long and we are really truely talking a bout a HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY

Their Nucs TT? Nah... still a deep going corrupted israeli government sucks and they better leaving power to other israelies who are able to Think and Talk and Negotiate and Care... Bushney,s are Gone and they are not there to Nanny the war monger israeli government no more


President Obama would be so far from Middle Peace if Iraq did not happen, Dude. He would not were to begin. He would have no leverage
on Iran to stop its Nuc. In fact as he make his Iraqi wihdrawal, he loses his lever there.

No one has figured that our of course. Thinking that UN Sanctions are going to win the day. But Russia....will in month pull from those sanction. Why?

Russia still see north Iran as part of its sphere of influence, It would not be playing all the covert games around the world, unless Russia was moving for some major plays. Iran is one. By backing out of the sanctions, Russia get a new ports on the Gulf and Indian Ocean. Were was this last game played? Indian Ocean.

Russia has told Pres. Obama, who it supports here. He just was not listening. And it is not ultimately going to be the US. Its arch rival of the Cold War. Russia needs Iran more than it needs the US. It is that simple. As a trading partner, as a port supplier, as a buyer of Russian munitions and nuclear programs.

I don't even think that Russia are all the much concerned about START and here is why. If they were ....then they would not have been playing all the games this last month....giving REP in the senate ammo to scuttle it.

If we got 5313 and they have got 3700?....that is honky dory to them. Both side have enough to dispatch the world and they got enough to intimidate any small country out there.

Just the way I see it.
May 9, 2010 7:41 AM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
I have heard of a lot of reasons, why the US does not play well and win more at fotbol. To the point, I have got the reasons by ranking from the most popular to least. But this is a new one to add to the list.

Is coming from the Police Chief in SA were the World Cup is being played.....so that needs to be addressed a little. Since he and his law enforcement officers.."main prayer" is that the US will be knocked out in the first round. The reason later in the post.

Returning to my list of reasons the US is consider to be non fotbol worthy country.

1) We play bad soccer. Yep, I admit it. We play so defensive out there it is like watching drugde move on the engine of your car.
It is un-artistic, non-creative, totally inept at times. Strike that if you have seen the American Women National Team play. They have dominated the women's game for many a year.

But about the guy's games. Let us face it, most American male soccer players were born with a football on one side of the crib, a basketball on another and finally a baseball on the third. When the lad (now about 15) finally asks for a soccer ball, the Dad faints...thinking OH NO, not my son, he is one of those.

But like everything in the world..we can surprise..USA 1 England 0 1950 :-)

2) It is our Flag's and history fault. Yep old Glory. Let us face it once again. You got to have a 12 players on the field do well in high level fotbol. There is just no history for the sport in the US of A. They did not play soccer here until HARvard and some other college (Yale I think) got together for a match in 1860s. Prior to that they had their hands full trying to defend themselves from Indian attacks. So games were a little to much extra curricular activity for them.

Put together a rabid group of foreign soccer fans into a stadium for a big match and they will raise the roof. Put together a few
American parents and spectators into the same stadium and they lull you to sleep. We need noise makers in the stands . I suggest every American attended the coming World Cup games in SA....be issued flash bang grenades.....))...just to keep the local SA Police Chief and his ever watching law enforcement officers awake during out matches there.

3) American don't have the mentality for the sport. I know we
are the 500 pound grey back gorilla on the block. Sure we got a mentality. We just don't like to admit it....)). Most consider the America's mentality near to being arrogant. Which does not work well on the pitch of fotbol. Were gentlemanly conduct s called for....except when France Plays Portugal.... and head butts are allowed.

Let us face it once again...Americans are not pyshic right for the sport. Our guys get taken down by a cheap foul from the back, near breaking a leg...most foreign official have gum in the whistle..thinking...arrogant American, he had it coming.

So what is the new reason, I have to add to the list?

President Obama.

Yep, the SA police Chief and his mighty men of the SA police department want the US knocked out in the first round, because
of President Obama. They are not sure if he will attend the matches....if he does a real security head ache for them. So the prayer..."out America in the first round". They also realize with a first round knock out will limit his time at the games. So they are hoping for 3 opening round loses to the American side...and out we go. tongue

Personally, I would love to see a repeat of USA 1 and England 0 and have us around to the final four. Meaning Pres. O could spend nearly the entire month in SA. And it is nice to see that in some countries, gov't and prayer can coexists.

But I think that I am going to get out a email to our National Team coach and remind him...how often food poisoning occurs at major matches and competitions. With a SA Police Chief so concerned about his abilities to safe guard President Obama...no telling what they would do for that first round knock out.
May 9, 2010 1:43 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
daehkcid: Post #459 and still the Village Idiot.......
Post One and Ditto tongue
May 9, 2010 3:14 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Fabulous post TT and really good thoughts regarding America and Football.

I guess there is another main reason America is not that good in football(Soccer)... it is because football really needs team playing and there is not much place for individual "Me... the one and only Hero" thing in this game. Too much individualism and too litte team spirit then no good american football playing any way dunno
May 9, 2010 3:18 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
look at this poll so far... really interesting result so far and at least... not even one beleives that Sarah Palin is in direct contact with God laugh

*And a small majority voted in here beleive that McCain would be far better... oak... better in what exactly? tongue

KEEP VOTING please

professor
May 9, 2010 4:17 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude: Sure Iraq was a Dumb war TT Exactly as almost any thing else George W Bush and Cheney to gehter barfed on America under their bloody years on power

I beleive this current israeli government is a real distater for Israel and for the peace process and these guys are so deeply corrupted that they need to keep the fire hot and other wise people are going to ask many many questions... and actually I beleive Sharon was the one less corrupted right winged israeli politician and that,s why he some how tried to create a kind of peace and showing some real results when he still was on power.

The rest of the bunch of these current israeli power holders... bad news for that fabulous country and bad news for the rest of the world as well because their Sh** keeps blowing under the fire and will not allow real peace blossom in that too important area to ignore.

As long as Netanyahou and the rest of his sad and mad bunch keep insulting the american administration then they sure are the most favourite people for the whole group of big capital repube heads and their endorsers ... but still... Israel,s very existens is because of friendship of America and because of the Mercy of America even and they really truely better behave and will beahve some times soon, as I have promised before

Let me see... how much money America can like... all of sudden taking out of Israel,s economy ... wow! Many american economical problems will be solved fast and easy that way! universal health care for all americans with no problems what so ever, really cheap loans to americans and then being able to buy homes a gain, after war treatment for all american military personal, free high grade education for all kids of less fortuned americans, job creation in Peace industryand american know how to rebuilt... and the list of what America can use that huge amount of money for is long and we are really truely talking a bout a HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY

Their Nucs TT? Nah... still a deep going corrupted israeli government sucks and they better leaving power to other israelies who are able to Think and Talk and Negotiate and Care... Bushney,s are Gone and they are not there to Nanny the war monger israeli government no more
How about the Warmonger Iran,Hamas,Hezbollah?
You seem to approve of them!
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