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May 30, 2010 4:53 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: FYI...we just our first named tropical storm of the 2010 Hurricane season. As Agatha (were do they get these names) hit Mexico and Guatemala.

President O needs to get his act together on the BP surface oil slicks....ASAP.
I am totaly agree thumbs up
May 30, 2010 4:54 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Conrad73: You mean the OTHER 115 Billion it will cost?
And Hopefully some of this money will be brought Home from hidden acounts in Switzerland Conrad tongue
May 30, 2010 5:03 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts



An assumption and beside this person tells not a thing regarding how much money the same health care reform will save America later on! Better use the money on people,s health than using the same to kill and creating stupid wars not good for any body!

America uses more money than any other nations for helath care for each americana nd still so many millions have Died just because of lack of a propper and fair health care ... but oak... why am I talking with you a bout this Conrad?

YOUR GUYS LOST IT BIG AND THEIR STUPIDITY AND EVIL THOUGHTS DID NOT WORK ANY WAY tongue yay
May 30, 2010 5:34 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Obama administration have taken responsibility to mannage the clean up job and the same administration isgoing to furfill this promise TT. Be very happy that this disater did not accur inder the Bushney,s or they would never ever do a tenth of what Obama administration is doing and is going to keep doing regarding this.

I definately understand much of your positions regarding this administration TT... it is rather hard to accept that the government actually is doing some thing in the benefit of americans and the kind of lousy job your guys always have done... giving you a certain beleive a bout governments must not do much and the whole thing must be runned by people them selves... America is not Walnut grow TT and the government takes responsibility and have to take responsibility


confused Now you got me confused Dude. I thought BP was making the decisions on controlling the release? Is it Obama or BP? Or if it going well like a control effort is going to soon happen, it's Obama. If it is going badly, it is then BP?confused Or if it is just another day at the beach with some tar ball floating in, is it Neptune?

Can we get Neptune to pick up the tap on this one? I heard that
the Federal gov't was broke a few months ago. Passing the buck to Neptune, seems like a good way to go. tongue
May 30, 2010 5:53 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Abram
AbramAbramGoshen, Ohio USA9 Threads 2,077 Posts
ttom500: Now you got me confused Dude. I thought BP was making the decisions on controlling the release? Is it Obama or BP? Or if it going well like a control effort is going to soon happen, it's Obama. If it is going badly, it is then BP? Or if it is just another day at the beach with some tar ball floating in, is it Neptune?

Can we get Neptune to pick up the tap on this one? I heard that
the Federal gov't was broke a few months ago. Passing the buck to Neptune, seems like a good way to go.

One thing is for sure; Why in the hell are the citizens of this nation waiting for government to do an energy impact study, and not just getting out there themselves to erect barriers?doh
May 31, 2010 7:26 AM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
President Obama decided to spend Memorial Day in Chicago. I will not comment.

Others already have. Read some.

May 31, 2010 2:49 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Now you got me confused Dude. I thought BP was making the decisions on controlling the release? Is it Obama or BP? Or if it going well like a control effort is going to soon happen, it's Obama. If it is going badly, it is then BP? Or if it is just another day at the beach with some tar ball floating in, is it Neptune?

Can we get Neptune to pick up the tap on this one? I heard that
the Federal gov't was broke a few months ago. Passing the buck to Neptune, seems like a good way to go.
You are not really confused but your job is to confuse more americans so they do not know really what is going on TT and so far... good job grin

Well...
BP have to pay
BP have to close the leak
BP have to clean up the mess
BP has leadership of course... BUT!

The mighty and absoloutely powerful american govenrment is going to make sure that all named above will get done and will not allow stupid deals specially between the GWB administration and administrations before that specially made because of repube heads on power going to give BP free hands to neglect it,s responsibility or not taking care of the job as good as possible!

what is confusing in here TT?
May 31, 2010 3:19 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
By the way how come the best friend of John Hagee and a wanna beleive McCain won the presidency in America... this stupid war monger dude on power in Israel acting this stupiedly and against international law today ? Attacking in international waters and Killing people from other nations who are there just to get humane help to people of Gaza? How long time shall this stupid behaviour continues and what is wrong with accepting the decision of plaestinains who voted totaly legal to Hamas in 2006? People voted them in and then one should think a bout why and how that interest can be shifted toward some thing better by listening to demands of human beings and their legal rights!

Egypt and Turkey are talking a bout sending the israeli ambasador back to Israel and this very tiney hope toward a peace treatment is loosing furter strength... do majority of people of Israel really want this hope toward a real peace in the srea going a way like that? How deep Netanyahou is in this fraud and corruption business of his administration and what have he done since he is just making this problem more and more comlicated so people thinking a bout War instead of thinking a bout what kind of cheaters and liers running their land? a sad day for humanity I beleive... poor help workers moping

Beck is going to announce a new "Holy repube head words of the Lord"... soon regarding this... is republican party going to stay on the exact Beck strategy regarding this disturbing tragedy as usual or will they "think" for the first time since America got rid of GWB and his folks?
May 31, 2010 5:49 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: By the way how come the best friend of John Hagee and a wanna beleive McCain won the presidency in America... this stupid war monger dude on power in Israel acting this stupiedly and against international law today ? Attacking in international waters and Killing people from other nations who are there just to get humane help to people of Gaza? How long time shall this stupid behaviour continues and what is wrong with accepting the decision of plaestinains who voted totaly legal to Hamas in 2006? People voted them in and then one should think a bout why and how that interest can be shifted toward some thing better by listening to demands of human beings and their legal rights!

Egypt and Turkey are talking a bout sending the israeli ambasador back to Israel and this very tiney hope toward a peace treatment is loosing furter strength... do majority of people of Israel really want this hope toward a real peace in the srea going a way like that? How deep Netanyahou is in this fraud and corruption business of his administration and what have he done since he is just making this problem more and more comlicated so people thinking a bout War instead of thinking a bout what kind of cheaters and liers running their land? a sad day for humanity I beleive... poor help workers

Beck is going to announce a new "Holy repube head words of the Lord"... soon regarding this... is republican party going to stay on the exact Beck strategy regarding this disturbing tragedy as usual or will they "think" for the first time since America got rid of GWB and his folks?


Did the USNavy have a right to stop the NKorean ship taking SCUD to the middle east? That was in international water as well.
Maritime law. Civilian vessels both give way and will halt on order of a legitimate Navy command. Even on the high sea.

When the US/NATO stops a civilian Somalian fish boat to search it for weapons that might used later in a pirate hi jacking. Same law of the sea.

When you have a international recognized blockade of a country, then high sea boarding are legal.

Here is a Israel expert on maritime law....explaining it


Dude, you need to remember the handwriting is on the wall for the
Palestines and Gaza with the Arab League saying they want the two nation solution. Many don't want this solution to peace. They want a continued conflict...more blood more sacrifice more death...Iran is one. So breaking the Israeli blockade might be looked at like a last ditch effort.

600 on ship delivering supplies say what to you? They were delivering lot more than just supplies....but also manpower.
May 31, 2010 6:16 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: You are not really confused but your job is to confuse more americans so they do not know really what is going on TT and so far... good job

Well...
BP have to pay
BP have to close the leak
BP have to clean up the mess
BP has leadership of course... BUT!

The mighty and absoloutely powerful american govenrment is going to make sure that all named above will get done and will not allow stupid deals specially between the GWB administration and administrations before that specially made because of repube heads on power going to give BP free hands to neglect it,s responsibility or not taking care of the job as good as possible!

what is confusing in here TT?


Then President Obama and the US government is not leading on the
BP oil disaster? Dude we have his quotes well documented. "I am responsible"...........

Dude....BP gave Obama $79K in donation in 2008 for his Presidential run. Maybe that why is the lines of authority and responsibility is so muddy?

Dude, not me that is confusing the American people on this. Is the White House that is. It is the White House that playing a juggling act here....trying hard to give Obama the credit for any success that the control efforts have had to date.
May 31, 2010 7:45 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Did the USNavy have a right to stop the NKorean ship taking SCUD to the middle east? That was in international water as well.
Maritime law. Civilian vessels both give way and will halt on order of a legitimate Navy command. Even on the high sea.

When the US/NATO stops a civilian Somalian fish boat to search it for weapons that might used later in a pirate hi jacking. Same law of the sea.

When you have a international recognized blockade of a country, then high sea boarding are legal.

Here is a Israel expert on maritime law....explaining it


Dude, you need to remember the handwriting is on the wall for the
Palestines and Gaza with the Arab League saying they want the two nation solution. Many don't want this solution to peace. They want a continued conflict...more blood more sacrifice more death...Iran is one. So breaking the Israeli blockade might be looked at like a last ditch effort.

600 on ship delivering supplies say what to you? They were delivering lot more than just supplies....but also manpower.
Way different than what you beleive TT... people wanted to go there and deleivering humane supplies and their ship was tried to take over in the international water and never before have they attacked civilians with food and medicin and building mterial and still there is more than a million over there and they do not need furter more to fight.

This incident shows more than before that Israel is runned by a very bad government who are a bunch of fenatics who hate peace and want to keep showing teeth to whom ever tries to create calm in the area, and good people of Israel do not deserve a government full of corruption doing what ever possible to blaze a new war in the area just after desires of their leaders amoung republicans and John Hagee and the whole bunch of war loversdoh

Wrong decision and I do not beleive in what ever Netanyahou claims no more... corrpution makes people act as animals! sigh
May 31, 2010 7:47 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Then President Obama and the US government is not leading on the
BP oil disaster? Dude we have his quotes well documented. "I am responsible"...........

Dude....BP gave Obama $79K in donation in 2008 for his Presidential run. Maybe that why is the lines of authority and responsibility is so muddy?

Dude, not me that is confusing the American people on this. Is the White House that is. It is the White House that playing a juggling act here....trying hard to give Obama the credit for any success that the control efforts have had to date.


And how much BP gave McCain and Geroge W Bush before him TT?
May 31, 2010 7:53 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: So the remaining world super power...should just let the UN run things? Just put our Battle carrier fleet into dry dock ...bring the lads home from Iraq and Afghanistan....let Russia back into Eastern Europe....let Iran have the middle east....let NKorea and China dominate the far east?

I don't think that you know us very well.

Maybe it is time for the UN to listen to the US. Maybe it is time for NATO and the EU to listen as well.

Peace is not going to come free and easy like, Dude. Freedom and liberty never do. Your UN has not resolved the Korean issue for 59 years. Your UN would not step on Sadam toes, in the first or second Gulf war. Has not stopped any African war and human right crimes done there. Your UN will ultimately shrug its shoulders on Iran and nucs. In simple words...the UN is ineffective in doing it chartered mission. It is a failure.

It is Memorial Day here. We are thinking about and praying about the 1000....no the millions of Americans that laid down their life for others to be free and have liberty. You give junk on the UN.....

We have now have 1000 dead in Afghanistan....just like I said...an increase in casualities with the surge and tactics being used,

The last time someone was absolutely sure that the triggered needed to be pulled, was already in a body bag....5 minutes earlier.


US being a more active member of UN would be able to do much better in peace creating missions and stuff and I bet if UN really had power... there would be peace between N and S Korea long time a go and Israel would have left occupied territories and that stupid war over there would be history and israeli and arabs would live side by side and as brothers and neighbors and not like this! Never do it alone TT... get help from others and you will be much better off.
May 31, 2010 7:57 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Dude, the people on the Gulf coast are crying to have the US gov't declare this a National Emergency. Why?

If declared a national emergency, then additional booming vessels can be ordered by the FED government to the area. The problem here. Many of those boom vessel are local fishing vessels. These fishermen don't want to go spend the summer fishing season in the Gulf sweeping oil.

So the White House has called this everything but a national emergency. I checked the White House site...prior....it has not been declared a national emergency.

Been called...a emergency response...a wide spread disaster...a mobilization of national assets....but not a national emergency.
10 states and cities have called this a state of emergency.

The locals are calling it a 'state of emergency', but the Obama's gov't cannot. Then, will Pres. Obama does take full control of the response. Ordering the fisherman to boom rather than fish will cost him votes in 2010 and 2012. Why? The price of seafood will increase across the country.

With one major fishing area already down, if you take East coast boats to the Gulf, then two of your three prime fishing area are down for summer fishing. The price of all seafood would increase.

So President Obama does not want to call this a national emergency.
But it truely is...say hurricane blows into the Gulf and then sends the floating crude into the cities and urban area along the coast? We had many uncontrolled fires break out in New Orleans with Katrina. Image they were fed by crude? So this is a real National emergency.

Also declaring a National Emergency...means....that the US government starts to pick up a big part of the response cost. Who is bigger? BP or the US Gov't? Obviously the US Gov't is. For the average person down in LA, MS, AL and FL were this crude is heading, having the FED Gov't picking up the tab is better than
BP, a foreign company.

So here is a prediction.

We don't see President Obama back in the SE USA region until August of the year, when the relief wells come in. Few give much hope that the next BP effort will control the release. Unwilling to make it a national Emergency, he is not going to place himself into a position were locals ask publicaly of why it has not been done.
May 31, 2010 8:03 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Way different than what you beleive TT... people wanted to go there and deleivering humane supplies and their ship was tried to take over in the international water and never before have they attacked civilians with food and medicin and building mterial and still there is more than a million over there and they do not need furter more to fight.

This incident shows more than before that Israel is runned by a very bad government who are a bunch of fenatics who hate peace and want to keep showing teeth to whom ever tries to create calm in the area, and good people of Israel do not deserve a government full of corruption doing what ever possible to blaze a new war in the area just after desires of their leaders amoung republicans and John Hagee and the whole bunch of war lovers

Wrong decision and I do not beleive in what ever Netanyahou claims no more... corrpution makes people act as animals!


How do the Israeli know what is on those ships, unless they board them to see? I don't think that the Israeli are superman with vision that can see inside ships hulls. The only way for the Isreali to know what they carried, was a onboard inspection.

Obviously you consider if the Palestines says they were carrying only human relief supplies....it has to be true. Not like smuggling of weapons to the Gaza has not happened in the past.

How do you know what was on those ships? I don't. But if I had nothing to hide in a inspection on any government, I would stop my vessel and let them search. Why did the ships fail to halt and why then resist the boarders?
May 31, 2010 8:13 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: US being a more active member of UN would be able to do much better in peace creating missions and stuff and I bet if UN really had power... there would be peace between N and S Korea long time a go and Israel would have left occupied territories and that stupid war over there would be history and israeli and arabs would live side by side and as brothers and neighbors and not like this! Never do it alone TT... get help from others and you will be much better off.


What real help has the UN given on Iraq? on Afghanistan? on Islamic Terrorism? On bin Laden's family extradiction from Iran? On stopping Iran from a nuc? Dude, I can go on and on here....on UN failures and out right complicity with men like Sadam.

Better to be alone that in the same ineffective position of the UN.
At one country did...and would act in the interest of political prisoners, of taking down dictators, of resisting terrorism.....

Life is to short to be expecting the UN to do anything when the UN body is divided by global regions, religions, and race.
May 31, 2010 8:30 PM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
ttom500: Dude, the people on the Gulf coast are crying to have the US gov't declare this a National Emergency. Why?

If declared a national emergency, then additional booming vessels can be ordered by the FED government to the area. The problem here. Many of those boom vessel are local fishing vessels. These fishermen don't want to go spend the summer fishing season in the Gulf sweeping oil.

So the White House has called this everything but a national emergency. I checked the White House site...prior....it has not been declared a national emergency.

Been called...a emergency response...a wide spread disaster...a mobilization of national assets....but not a national emergency.
10 states and cities have called this a state of emergency.

The locals are calling it a 'state of emergency', but the Obama's gov't cannot. Then, will Pres. Obama does take full control of the response. Ordering the fisherman to boom rather than fish will cost him votes in 2010 and 2012. Why? The price of seafood will increase across the country.

With one major fishing area already down, if you take East coast boats to the Gulf, then two of your three prime fishing area are down for summer fishing. The price of all seafood would increase.

So President Obama does not want to call this a national emergency.
But it truely is...say hurricane blows into the Gulf and then sends the floating crude into the cities and urban area along the coast? We had many uncontrolled fires break out in New Orleans with Katrina. Image they were fed by crude? So this is a real National emergency.

Also declaring a National Emergency...means....that the US government starts to pick up a big part of the response cost. Who is bigger? BP or the US Gov't? Obviously the US Gov't is. For the average person down in LA, MS, AL and FL were this crude is heading, having the FED Gov't picking up the tab is better than
BP, a foreign company.

So here is a prediction.

We don't see President Obama back in the SE USA region until August of the year, when the relief wells come in. Few give much hope that the next BP effort will control the release. Unwilling to make it a national Emergency, he is not going to place himself into a position were locals ask publicaly of why it has not been done.


Remember I said...I would support any President that would love the country? President Obama is a president the politically cannot love the country. Kind of sad is it not?
Jun 1, 2010 2:34 AM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude: Way different than what you beleive TT... people wanted to go there and deleivering humane supplies and their ship was tried to take over in the international water and never before have they attacked civilians with food and medicin and building mterial and still there is more than a million over there and they do not need furter more to fight.

This incident shows more than before that Israel is runned by a very bad government who are a bunch of fenatics who hate peace and want to keep showing teeth to whom ever tries to create calm in the area, and good people of Israel do not deserve a government full of corruption doing what ever possible to blaze a new war in the area just after desires of their leaders amoung republicans and John Hagee and the whole bunch of war lovers

Wrong decision and I do not beleive in what ever Netanyahou claims no more... corrpution makes people act as animals!
Yep,see HAMAS and the PA!
Extremely CORRUPT!barf
Jun 1, 2010 6:54 AM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Then President Obama and the US government is not leading on the
BP oil disaster? Dude we have his quotes well documented. "I am responsible"...........

Dude....BP gave Obama $79K in donation in 2008 for his Presidential run. Maybe that why is the lines of authority and responsibility is so muddy?

Dude, not me that is confusing the American people on this. Is the White House that is. It is the White House that playing a juggling act here....trying hard to give Obama the credit for any success that the control efforts have had to date.


Enjoy TT:








who received more contribution Exacty TT from BP?




A lot sources all over the place TT... All industry and such trying to contribute to presidential candidates right up to how big they count on having influence later on and this is actually no secret or not unusual at all and happens any where and particulary in America because of free marketing and stuff... but never forget that oil and gas industry and weapon industry as well Always and with no dount what so ever ALWAYS giving a lot more to republican candidates becasue they know that:

-Republicans or right winged no matter where on the entire planet we are talking a bout are always less concerned a bout mother natur and do not want to know more a bout how activities of human beings can destroy mother nature and they deny what ever studies regarding global warming and just thinking a bout personal economical Gain and not a damn thing Else!

-Republican party of America just beleives in one single methode of making America rich and powerful and that is New Wars! No body can ever change this beleif and republican influenced elected any where can never ever understand that lives of americans and others is much more important being lost in oil wars and to make sure that weapon producers can keep producing weapons of eliminating lives on 24 hours shifts!

-Never forget lessons of recent history where contributers to the old war monger dude,s campain met behind close doors and injected money to their best choice McCain with out people really could know who they were and where EXACTLY the contribution came from any way... remeber W closed the door and remeber the Evil smile of warlord Cheney and how shamefull they all acted and supported Cain,s campain with what ever they could!

Are there still some people beleiving republicans getting their support money on totaly legal and fair ways and are not in the pocket of specially oil industry? Sure there are such people... but still a great majority of americans are not morons or some thing and they sure know what the hell is going on!

I even begin the beleive that BP for example is not doing what they really are capable of doing regardign setting an end to this current oil catastrophy in gulf... BP or other oild gigant have never been totaly happy because of Obama being the president of USA and maybe they let this matter countinue longer time than it should to weaken the Obama administration and giving the man more gray hair and things to concern a bout and beside contributing to elections of November so their prefered repube heads can Gain conversing

What I wish is that Obama administration takes over the oil leak effort complitely or as much as possible and making BP know that they can not possibly try to weaken the american administration and holding so many americans as their hostiges and not stopping this leak just to please some right winged oil folks around scold
Jun 1, 2010 7:02 AM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Conrad ....remember when Mao had the Student Rebellion...and had children in China informing on their parents?

Seems Michelle Obama ran in to a Peruvian 7 yo girl that wanted to give up her illegal mother.

After telling Michele ...."My mom says that Barack Obama is taking away everyone without papers. But my mom does not have papers." Her illegal mom immediately went into hiding.

Remember the 'Obama songs' that they were singing earlier in schools. Here a a 7 yo that sung the wrong tune.

Now the open border supporters are making the 7 yo a poster child for
the cause. They will stoop to any thing. Even using a 7 year old.
Why cannot they understand that drug and violence that will comes across the open border, will ultimately destroy the country that they fled to. The same reasons many of the fled there host countries.
Jun 1, 2010 7:12 AM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: How do the Israeli know what is on those ships, unless they board them to see? I don't think that the Israeli are superman with vision that can see inside ships hulls. The only way for the Isreali to know what they carried, was a onboard inspection.

Obviously you consider if the Palestines says they were carrying only human relief supplies....it has to be true. Not like smuggling of weapons to the Gaza has not happened in the past.

How do you know what was on those ships? I don't. But if I had nothing to hide in a inspection on any government, I would stop my vessel and let them search. Why did the ships fail to halt and why then resist the boarders?


You are right TT... Israel have the right and the oligation to know Exactly what is on those ships and no dount a bout this what so ever... they could do this much more elegant way and like waiting till the ship was in Israeli water and sorrunded the ships and demanded to get on board for inspection before furter entery would be possible.

But! from there till what actually happened and it means like getting in to that ship with weapons and shouting and all of sudden and then getting so nervous and hot in head so they kill aid activists is far TT!

Israeli government do not want peace and they still beleive that McCain is the president of America and Hagee is his VP or some thing!This government always shows muscles and trying as much as they can to keep the hatered and conflict alive and well and feeding this monster with blood of also totaly inoncent human beings and that is wrong and illegal and moraly disaster and not acceptable... good people of Israel do not deserve such corrupted people on power in Israel and the israeli government,s behaviour strengthening the regim of mullahs in Iran and gives characters like that fenatic ugly mullah in Libanon and else where furter fuel and more supporters.

Hamas Won and so freaking what TT? In Israel the government elected in not much less fenatic or corrputed or stupiedly runned as Hamas what so ever and still we all accepted that fact and knew their being elected was reasoned in the shape of the area and because Israelies were scared of terrorism for example and then we got to know how that threat can be mannaged and sloved some how. In Gaza... they elected Hamas... can some body knock on door to Netanyahou and talk with this man a bout it is time to accept the truth and three stupid years of total blokade is more than enough and just creates more hatered and more danger and isolation for inoncent people of Israel.
Jun 1, 2010 7:16 AM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Then President Obama and the US government is not leading on the
BP oil disaster? Dude we have his quotes well documented. "I am responsible"...........

Dude....BP gave Obama $79K in donation in 2008 for his Presidential run. Maybe that why is the lines of authority and responsibility is so muddy?

Dude, not me that is confusing the American people on this. Is the White House that is. It is the White House that playing a juggling act here....trying hard to give Obama the credit for any success that the control efforts have had to date.


Come on TT.. do not be shy... complete the sentence:

"I am responsible"...........

and then what TT? what did the president told after the word responsible... I know what he told and it is written all over the place but I want you as one of the spindocs of republican party to complete your sentences cheers grin
Jun 1, 2010 7:19 AM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude: Come on TT.. do not be shy... complete the sentence:

"I am responsible"...........

and then what TT? what did the president told after the word responsible... I know what he told and it is written all over the place but I want you as one of the spindocs of republican party to complete your sentences
Hotdiggity,still Spinning,and seeding Disinfo?rolling on the floor laughing
Jun 1, 2010 7:22 AM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Are there still some people beleiving republicans getting their support money on totaly legal and fair ways and are not in the pocket of specially oil industry? Sure there are such people... but still a great majority of americans are not morons or some thing and they sure know what the hell is going on!

I even begin the beleive that BP for example is not doing what they really are capable of doing regardign setting an end to this current oil catastrophy in gulf... BP or other oild gigant have never been totaly happy because of Obama being the president of USA and maybe they let this matter countinue longer time than it should to weaken the Obama administration and giving the man more gray hair and things to concern a bout and beside contributing to elections of November so their prefered repube heads can Gain

What I wish is that Obama administration takes over the oil leak effort complitely or as much as possible and making BP know that they can not possibly try to weaken the american administration and holding so many americans as their hostiges and not stopping this leak just to please some right winged oil folks around

As was said unless Pres. Obama make it National Disaster, then he is not placing 'all' of the countries assets and abilities to end the crisis. He said that he is.....but in reality until he make that declaration....those east coast vessels that can boom oil....are fishing.

GWB made Katrina, a National Disaster. So that 'all' of the country could be mobilized to aid the region and New Orleans.
Pres. Obama is playing words games here. For 30 days he has held off in making the declaration. For 30 day crude has flowed into the Gulf. It is will for another 60 days unless some miracle solution is found.

It is not just the US. But also Cuba, Mexico and Bahamas can get impacted by the crude.

You say what does it matter? Well I know for a fact that the USAF has 8- C-130 spray aircraft can be used to spread control agent on the slicks. With a declaration of a National Emergency...the USAF would reassign their mission. Only 2 of the 8 are flying spray control in the Gulf.

Politically, he cannot now make the declaration. It would be a nasty astrict to the prefect legacy that they want to write in the Obama Administration in Washington. They do it now, 30 day after the event, it would show his misreading of the situation from day 1. So SE USA, and maybe Cuba, Bahama, Mexico will suffer as Obama fails to protect the country and region from BP's crude.
Jun 1, 2010 7:31 AM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Keep your self updated regarding the oil leak:

Jun 1, 2010 7:38 AM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Come on TT.. do not be shy... complete the sentence:

"I am responsible"...........

and then what TT? what did the president told after the word responsible... I know what he told and it is written all over the place but I want you as one of the spindocs of republican party to complete your sentences


I am responsible............ for me. But I did not take the oath of office for the President on the United States, Dude.
Jun 1, 2010 7:46 AM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
And if it met a Iran sub enroute after leaving Turkey?

Hot_Single_Dude: This flottila was not from Iran TT... and inspected and secured in Turkey ... a Nato member an Ally of Israel and so on.
If the mighty Israel is so scared of those 600 aid activists then some thing is definately wrong with the israeli government,s behaviour and they got some major issues to solve for not being so scared no more
Jun 1, 2010 7:52 AM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Jun 1, 2010 7:54 AM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: And if it met a Iran sub enroute after leaving Turkey?
there are always a lot of "if",s TT... that matter does not justify killing aid activists who tried to open up the blokade some how and allowing necessary supplies for more than a million human beings in the biggest jail in world!
Jun 1, 2010 7:59 AM CST Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Another best "friend" of republican party is sent a way...



Nice... thumbs up yay

How much money had he hidden in Switzerland or else where by the way Conrad? Can you please making a call and asking those banks deleivering this money to anti terror fighters ASAP? tongue professor
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