WhatUwish4: I'm sure you're kidding Conrad, but since this just came to me via e-mail, I thought I would let Dude take a look. I can't stand to listen to him myself..BUT...
"Fox News host Glenn Beck’s TV show has been breaking records — attracting more than 3 million viewers a night ? since it burst on the scene in January.
He’s the only author ever to have a No. 1 New York Times best-seller in the fiction, nonfiction and paperback fiction categories.
His syndicated radio show airs on more than 400 stations, his Web site and Web casts are thriving, and his live comedy performances are jam-packed. "
Yeah... this Clown Gelnn Beck is surely one of the best "hopes" for the republican party Ever... and he sure presents the Best stuff the republican party can give America if they take over a gain.
Keep this Beck dude on charge Wish4... non threaded ADHD patients have sure some unknown ressources which can be used and and some of them even look pretty Cool on their good days...
whats, up? Have you runned of sain guys over there in the republican party?
WhatUwish4: I'm sure you're kidding Conrad, but since this just came to me via e-mail, I thought I would let Dude take a look. I can't stand to listen to him myself..BUT...
"Fox News host Glenn Beck’s TV show has been breaking records — attracting more than 3 million viewers a night ? since it burst on the scene in January.
He’s the only author ever to have a No. 1 New York Times best-seller in the fiction, nonfiction and paperback fiction categories.
His syndicated radio show airs on more than 400 stations, his Web site and Web casts are thriving, and his live comedy performances are jam-packed. "
Beck put the Tea Parties into gear with his expose's of the Obama campaign and administration. Other than Rush Limbugh, a long time bulls eye target for any liberal with a axe to grind. Glenn Beck is number 2 on the short list of conservative political pundits, that DEMs would like to gag and bind to tar poles.
That he is investigating the Frederick Raines and CCX...and Obama possible involvement in it....has to be causing deep indigestion in Washington. Those $50,000 per plate diners are a little more troublesome....thinking that some one in the far back table might stand during your giggle and laugh address.....and do a shout out ...yelling.....WHAT ABOUT CCX? CAN YOU TELL US YOUR ROLE IN IT, MR. PRESIDENT?
Anyone noticed the wagons have been circled at the White House.....about 13 of the first 16 month of this administration? With Beck directing the drag away attacks...like Vern Jones. And Limbaugh doing the flanking movements, hit em they ain't Rush. ORielly doing the mass FOX fairness assaults. Two conservative and 1 IND newsman have caused the Administration to change its plans to socialize the country.
the Greek gov't is considering legal actions on certain American banks that found their economic situation questionable. Then advised their clients against buying Greek gov't financials. This caused the Greek gov't to run into deficits.....and caused the present situations with them and to having their bonds to rated at a junk bond status.
The nasty old American banks did it.......
Were have I heard this story? TARP I and II bailouts by the Bush and Obama administration. Not the gov't fault, it is the nasty old banks fault. This is a big game of pass the buck. Literally.
Here is the deal. Banks employee 100 economists and financial anylists to watch the foreign markets....currencies/bonds/investments....thier job is protect investors from making bad decisions in these with timely market information.
These file reports with the bank's marketing departments the gov't bond, t-Bills, and other investments. To aid the investor to make a good investment. In fact, most professional banking organizations have disclosure ethic rules...that force this market information to be given to investor.
So really what the Greek gov't is complaining and investigating is that the American banks protected investors from making bad investments into Greek detoriating financial situation. So now...sue the banks, for doing their jobs.
Ain't that just like a Socialist gov't? Ain't our fault we spent more than we had coming in....it is the banks fault for not being able to sell Greek bonds that were falling to junk bond status. To bring more money in to cover our roosey red deficit.
If failing European countries begin to take banks-American and European- into lengthy court battle over billions of speculated bond buys and to save their image as being fiscally responsible. They do far greater damage to the confidence of global investor than they can imagine. Global investors don't like ruffles in the bank/gov't relationship. Such lawsuits are more than ruffles.
ttom500: Beck put the Tea Parties into gear with his expose's of the Obama campaign and administration. Other than Rush Limbugh, a long time bulls eye target for any liberal with a axe to grind. Glenn Beck is number 2 on the short list of conservative political pundits, that DEMs would like to gag and bind to tar poles.
That he is investigating the Frederick Raines and CCX...and Obama possible involvement in it....has to be causing deep indigestion in Washington. Those $50,000 per plate diners are a little more troublesome....thinking that some one in the far back table might stand during your giggle and laugh address.....and do a shout out ...yelling.....WHAT ABOUT CCX? CAN YOU TELL US YOUR ROLE IN IT, MR. PRESIDENT?
Anyone noticed the wagons have been circled at the White House.....about 13 of the first 16 month of this administration? With Beck directing the drag away attacks...like Vern Jones. And Limbaugh doing the flanking movements, hit em they ain't Rush. ORielly doing the mass FOX fairness assaults. Two conservative and 1 IND newsman have caused the Administration to change its plans to socialize the country.
America owes them a debt of graditude.
It is absoloutely Great for your guys in Fox news being founded by Saudi Arabia ... is it not?
How come a country like Saudi arabia with major known anti human rights issues and beside a country where almost all those MF,s who attacked us all on 9/11 came from is founding a so called "american" tv network which works night and day against the security of the United States by calling for unrest and anti govermental activities and stuff like that?
Those who attacked us all on 9/11 did not success and America moved on... and now some of the the same but dressed differently... have succeded to attack America one more time and this time by usage of Fox news... and all this because the republican party of America can simply not keep existing unless America is under attack and unless americans are so scared that they forget all a bout humanity and real american values
Hot_Single_Dude: It is absoloutely Great for your guys in Fox news being founded by Saudi Arabia ... is it not?
How come a country like Saudi arabia with major known anti human rights issues and beside a country where almost all those MF,s who attacked us all on 9/11 came from is founding a so called "american" tv network which works night and day against the security of the United States by calling for unrest and anti govermental activities and stuff like that?
Those who attacked us all on 9/11 did not success and America moved on... and now some of the the same but dressed differently... have succeded to attack America one more time and this time by usage of Fox news... and all this because the republican party of America can simply not keep existing unless America is under attack and unless americans are so scared that they forget all a bout humanity and real american values
I will just say three things....Time Square, Fort Hood, X-Mas Day over Detriot.....we told you before Obama took office that it was a 'war'. But no it is a civilian matter. A issue of diplomacy. Something that can negotiated. Still think that?
If 57m REP supported McCain......that you consider supporting AlQeada and radical Islamic extremism....then have Pres. Obama arrest them for being traitors to the country. And give them a fair day in court. It is his oathed duty to do.
But if your charges cannot be proven....you waist our time.
We both know that for Pres. Obama to arrest one REP for such a crime, would be an end to his administration. Much less 57m.
Israel, Suadi Arabia and Jordan in that order are the best allies that the US has in middle east. Just as we buy crude from Saudi Arabia....they can buy anything in this country that a legal green back will buy. Including a visit from a President that stooped to take gold chain from them.
The sole reason at present the Palestine and Isreal are having indirect talks on peace....is the Arab League, headed by Suadi Arabia. But you would play the REP oil man/Suadi human rights card....to dissolve the middle east peace talks/.....an continue 43 years of blood shed in the region and world.
You don't know what side you bread is buttered on, Dudester.
Hot_Single_Dude: And still... Fox news is runned by Saudies because Saudie,s are damn worried a bout an american presidnet who is really going to try his best make America less depended of foreign oil and by that Saudies will be those loosing most money and still a huge part of the money sent to Alqueda and Taliban which is also from Saudi Arabia will end!
These repube heads and Saudies and Alqueda and Taliban... all members of the same club... some doing less some doing more but all members of the same stincky "Thing" and Fox is their propoganda office in America...
You're a Sap,Dude! Ran out of Stuff,so you make up some as usual!
ttom500: I will just say three things....Time Square, Fort Hood, X-Mas Day over Detriot.....we told you before Obama took office that it was a 'war'. But no it is a civilian matter. A issue of diplomacy. Something that can negotiated. Still think that?
If 57m REP supported McCain......that you consider supporting AlQeada and radical Islamic extremism....then have Pres. Obama arrest them for being traitors to the country. And give them a fair day in court. It is his oathed duty to do.
But if your charges cannot be proven....you waist our time.
We both know that for Pres. Obama to arrest one REP for such a crime, would be an end to his administration. Much less 57m.
Israel, Suadi Arabia and Jordan in that order are the best allies that the US has in middle east. Just as we buy crude from Saudi Arabia....they can buy anything in this country that a legal green back will buy. Including a visit from a President that stooped to take gold chain from them.
The sole reason at present the Palestine and Isreal are having indirect talks on peace....is the Arab League, headed by Suadi Arabia. But you would play the REP oil man/Suadi human rights card....to dissolve the middle east peace talks/.....an continue 43 years of blood shed in the region and world.
You don't know what side you bread is buttered on, Dudester.
ttom500: I will just say three things....Time Square, Fort Hood, X-Mas Day over Detriot.....we told you before Obama took office that it was a 'war'. But no it is a civilian matter. A issue of diplomacy. Something that can negotiated. Still think that?
If 57m REP supported McCain......that you consider supporting AlQeada and radical Islamic extremism....then have Pres. Obama arrest them for being traitors to the country. And give them a fair day in court. It is his oathed duty to do.
But if your charges cannot be proven....you waist our time.
We both know that for Pres. Obama to arrest one REP for such a crime, would be an end to his administration. Much less 57m.
Israel, Suadi Arabia and Jordan in that order are the best allies that the US has in middle east. Just as we buy crude from Saudi Arabia....they can buy anything in this country that a legal green back will buy. Including a visit from a President that stooped to take gold chain from them.
The sole reason at present the Palestine and Isreal are having indirect talks on peace....is the Arab League, headed by Suadi Arabia. But you would play the REP oil man/Suadi human rights card....to dissolve the middle east peace talks/.....an continue 43 years of blood shed in the region and world.
You don't know what side you bread is buttered on, Dudester.
I am not that agree with you regarding the role you try to give Saudies regarding a possible peace between Israel and palestinians TT... and the whole thing is much more simple that you think you know and is as simple as : when America decides to say to Israeli govenrment" Stop this SH** and have peace with them or Else" then peace will be upon them fast and easy... Arab Leauge???? lol! get the heck out of here TT... they are Zero and not a thing any way just a luxorius club doing nothing than counting oil money and using a huge part of it buying new toys for their military so they can keep taking care of their dictator regims and suppressing any kind of opposition in hard ways in those countries... and of course sending a part of the damn money to Talibana nd stuff! Allies???? Yeah Right
Do you... and here by I mean the stablishment of the republican party want a real and fair peace between palestinians and Israel? Really? if you say yes I will not beleive you TT I am sorry! Republican party CAN NOT exist with out conflicts and israeli conflict is one of the most important ones for your guys. How else can your guys keep talking a bout allllllllllllllllllll those enemies out there then?
Sure arresting some certain people would increase american security but of course... if you got money and influence enough over there then no body can arrest you
Saudies deciding what Fox is telling americans... enjoy this stincky Fact furter more TT
Conrad73: Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky-Side of the Slice!
I would love to see the Obama administration arrest Beck or Rush L. On some trumped up and dummied charge like dudester comes up with here.
Does the movie...."Prefect Storm" come to mind with such a arrest.
Since we are on legalities.
The Customs court that considering Pres. Obama's gran mother US visa....has given her asylum. I think that it is a good decision.
Obama can barely provide security for this country. Much less protect his grandmother if sent back to Africa. There she is walking target for a kidnapping by some terrorist group.
Consider the implication of Obama's grandmother being kidnapped by some unknown group? Heck by the time it ended....we would owe Iran as much money as we owe China.....and be giving Iran our last nuc to resolve the issue.
Better to let her remain in the country.
Now that we are on Terrorism......
Baghdad security official say...they have broken up a alQeada plot on the coming SA World Cup games. They say a SAudi military officer had done some alQeada operation in Iraq....has been caught. Says he was planning them.
SA World Cup security is saying they don't have any idea of what Iraq is saying. Iraq has not said anything to them about the arrest. They still want happy visitors from all over the world to come for the games.
Now that we are talking World Cup Security.......
SA World Cup Security had a parade of fire engines, armored personnel carrier, and other counter terrorist vehicles. Ummmmm.... a word of warning here SA......Iraq had all the same kinds of systems...............
Just to make it a small, small world....Obama's grand mother has applied for a SA visa...to watch the World Cup matches. Says she wants to send full month with her grandson, Barack at mid field of all the major matches.
Guess SA security can stop the prayers for the US to lose in the first round.....they need to get their security act together...ASAP....or this could be one of the bloodiest World Cup in history.
TT... tell to your folks stop their strategies of "War is Good peace is bad" or "Oil is good green is bad" Bullshi* and finding other ways of making money... make them go green or some thing, investments in food making, flower grow industry some thing, stepping out of closets some thing so some of them can end their misourable emotion crisis and making love exactly as they want to and not as their party folks expecting them to claim
Dude...what are you smoking tonight? Ash from the Iceland Volcano? Israel GNP is No 39 in the world. Per captital income is less that $15,000 per per person. Israel GNP is at $194b. You got 3 OPEC countries that have better GNP. All of Europe has better GNPs than Israel. Even Greece at No 27 is better. At least till they over spent the budget like it was candy to be thrown away.
So your first assumption about the Israel being super wealthy country is way off.
Secondly....I never said war is good. Said just the opposite many time here. But if your going to fight a war....fight it to win...with intelligence and honor.
But if Israel needs to protect itself from rockets flying across the borders. Just like AZ has the right to protect themselves from drugs flowing its border. Am all for it. If that is making war....well, they are free to engage it. Just as we are.
The United State has given Israel billion in free defense aid. We have help a island group of 6.5m Jews protect themselves from both the surrounding Moslem countries that over 100m and the 1.3b Moslems in the world. That want to see them destroyed and whipped off the face of the earth.
I have not a single problem with this countries past support for Israel or its future support for Israel. With the exception of the USS Liberty incident.
ttom500: TT... tell to your folks stop their strategies of "War is Good peace is bad" or "Oil is good green is bad" Bullshi* and finding other ways of making money... make them go green or some thing, investments in food making, flower grow industry some thing, stepping out of closets some thing so some of them can end their misourable emotion crisis and making love exactly as they want to and not as their party folks expecting them to claim
Dude...what are you smoking tonight? Ash from the Iceland Volcano? Israel GNP is No 39 in the world. Per captital income is less that $15,000 per per person. Israel GNP is at $194b. You got 3 OPEC countries that have better GNP. All of Europe has better GNPs than Israel. Even Greece at No 27 is better. At least till they over spent the budget like it was candy to be thrown away.
So your first assumption about the Israel being super wealthy country is way off.
Secondly....I never said war is good. Said just the opposite many time here. But if your going to fight a war....fight it to win...with intelligence and honor.
But if Israel needs to protect itself from rockets flying across the borders. Just like AZ has the right to protect themselves from drugs flowing its border. Am all for it. If that is making war....well, they are free to engage it. Just as we are.
The United State has given Israel billion in free defense aid. We have help a island group of 6.5m Jews protect themselves from both the surrounding Moslem countries that over 100m and the 1.3b Moslems in the world. That want to see them destroyed and whipped off the face of the earth.
I have not a single problem with this countries past support for Israel or its future support for Israel. With the exception of the USS Liberty incident.
It is sure good America supporting Israel TT and be sure not all those 1,3 billion muslims want to destroy Israel or some thing like that ... but still american money is much better used right in the US of A and not for being used by an israeli govenrment who does not want to accpet doing some thing real for achieving peace.
This silly game looks like having a son who loves to kill people and still supporting him by giving him bigger guns because of not making him cry... I would make that son behave and if not I would put him in jail no matter how much I cared a bout him... Me the "parent" then it is my decision and the son have to obey or moving the hell out of my home
I bet if and when Israeli government begins to behave the whole amount of hatered agianst the state of Israel will end little by little and all this hatered will be history after some few years as if nothing problem ever have been there.
I am truely disgusted by those fentaic plaestinian groups and palestinian supporter groups who have chosed violence because of this most Stupid conflict of all times TT and want all this horrible conflict to end as soon as possible but I am sure no matter how huge tanks Israel uses and how many tons of fosfor bombs they use against civilians as they used in Libanon and Gaza not too long time a go... with out serious and fair peace negotiations this conflict will not end and both israeli and palestinain inoncent human beings will be the target of Stupid fentaics of both sides... !
Hot_Single_Dude: It is sure good America supporting Israel TT and be sure not all those 1,3 billion muslims want to destroy Israel or some thing like that ... but still american money is much better used right in the US of A and not for being used by an israeli govenrment who does not want to accpet doing some thing real for achieving peace.
This silly game looks like having a son who loves to kill people and still supporting him by giving him bigger guns because of not making him cry... I would make that son behave and if not I would put him in jail no matter how much I cared a bout him... Me the "parent" then it is my decision and the son have to obey or moving the hell out of my home
I bet if and when Israeli government begins to behave the whole amount of hatered agianst the state of Israel will end little by little and all this hatered will be history after some few years as if nothing problem ever have been there.
I am truely disgusted by those fentaic plaestinian groups and palestinian supporter groups who have chosed violence because of this most Stupid conflict of all times TT and want all this horrible conflict to end as soon as possible but I am sure no matter how huge tanks Israel uses and how many tons of fosfor bombs they use against civilians as they used in Libanon and Gaza not too long time a go... with out serious and fair peace negotiations this conflict will not end and both israeli and palestinain inoncent human beings will be the target of Stupid fentaics of both sides... !
I don't think that you see the reality here, That is the Arab Leaguu is one of the biggest donator to the Palestine people. They make a big public show of the $120m Iran gives them But arab League gives them more. Also Egypt is a position under pressure of the Arab League to end food and other needed supplies from coming into the Gaza strip.
The $120m of Iran is small potato to what they need to for a group of 3.5m. The majority comes from the Arab League. Mainly Saudi.
The game is up. The Arab League wants the two state solution. Sunni are the majority of the world Moslems....75% of Palestine are Sunni.
It took years to put this into place, Dudester. To get the Arab League after....the 6 Day war....were Nasser and Arab League made the three "no" about Israel. No Negotiations. No Peace. No Recognition of Israel. And the one that every one forgets.....to support the 'maintenance' of Palestine people as a nation.
The Arab League takes that maintenance away....and they are done.
Israel knows this. The US knows this. European Liberal should know this. Just be happy they are getting a state. Aid can pore into them then....from around the world.
None of us know when another chance at middle peace will come. Better take what we can, when we can.....43 years is alot of blood and sacrifice. 40 more is not needed.....
LOL.....returning to missed friend Indy....who would get a big smile from the following...
But remember during the 2008 campaign Wright/Obama thingee....
Obama was to say...."I could not sever myself from him any more than I could sever my arm." But later comes to the point where Rev Wright is 'divisive and destructive'.
Well seems Rev Wright sees this a little differently.
Rev Wright feels so thrown under the bus so far by the Obama Admninistration that he is so 'highly toxic' to the White House....and none there will talk to him.
Now these are two statement of polar opposites. One is north and one is south. One is day, the other night. One is wet and the other dry. You get the idea.
So what is going on? Likely both.
Obama then did not want to isolate the black voter that identifies with Rev Wright. Later after winning the Presidency, Rev. Wright is like a big mill stone to the President that needs to harmonize the country and work with the international community that is pretty mid road. Have Rev Wright as a close advisor, was a big pitfall to that.
So?
Rev Wright goes under the bus.....deeply under the bus. You know... 'don't call us, we will call you'. So as Rev Wright sits in his 9m dollar retirement house....waiting for a call that never comes. The steam builds. And the anger grows.
Till it is time to public. Look like that time has arrived.
A letter from Rev Wright's Trinity Church....just was made public....were Wright discribes his treatment by and relationship to the Obama administration.
I begin to see a 2012.....were the black vote in America is split.
this story has got Muhammed Ali' manager, Timothy Geither, Hiati Relief, a African charity organization ....all tangled into it...
ttom500: LOL.....returning to missed friend Indy....who would get a big smile from the following...
But remember during the 2008 campaign Wright/Obama thingee....
Obama was to say...."I could not sever myself from him any more than I could sever my arm." But later comes to the point where Rev Wright is 'divisive and destructive'.
Well seems Rev Wright sees this a little differently.
Rev Wright feels so thrown under the bus so far by the Obama Admninistration that he is so 'highly toxic' to the White House....and none there will talk to him.
Now these are two statement of polar opposites. One is north and one is south. One is day, the other night. One is wet and the other dry. You get the idea.
So what is going on? Likely both.
Obama then did not want to isolate the black voter that identifies with Rev Wright. Later after winning the Presidency, Rev. Wright is like a big mill stone to the President that needs to harmonize the country and work with the international community that is pretty mid road. Have Rev Wright as a close advisor, was a big pitfall to that.
So?
Rev Wright goes under the bus.....deeply under the bus. You know... 'don't call us, we will call you'. So as Rev Wright sits in his 9m dollar retirement house....waiting for a call that never comes. The steam builds. And the anger grows.
Till it is time to public. Look like that time has arrived.
A letter from Rev Wright's Trinity Church....just was made public....were Wright discribes his treatment by and relationship to the Obama administration.
I begin to see a 2012.....were the black vote in America is split.
this story has got Muhammed Ali' manager, Timothy Geither, Hiati Relief, a African charity organization ....all tangled into it...
Interesting that Rev Wright throws that card on a primary election day.
Speaking of which.....Rand Paul won big KY. more the 20 point. Paul was a Tea Party canidate and had Sarah Palin pulling for him.
Spectre.......is in a narrow lead, were at one time he had 27 point lead. The Obama ad were Spectre got some O love been use as a attack by and FOX media play. Obama promised to help Spectre wen he changed parties and said he loved him. Now does not show to campaign for him in a tight race. DEM are claiming Sustack to be thier man, not Spectre...a old REP.....what goes around come around.
Incumbants are in big trouble.....SNOB...is the political buzz word of the day. SNOB ---Send No One Back
ttom500: Interesting that Rev Wright throws that card on a primary election day.
Speaking of which.....Rand Paul won big KY. more the 20 point. Paul was a Tea Party canidate and had Sarah Palin pulling for him.
Spectre.......is in a narrow lead, were at one time he had 27 point lead. The Obama ad were Spectre got some O love been use as a attack by and FOX media play. Obama promised to help Spectre wen he changed parties and said he loved him. Now does not show to campaign for him in a tight race. DEM are claiming Sustack to be thier man, not Spectre...a old REP.....what goes around come around.
Incumbants are in big trouble.....SNOB...is the political buzz word of the day. SNOB ---Send No One Back
Obama's final two years has a twiddling his thumbs, self proclaimed dictatorship, will be his memorial. Sestak just proclaimed winner over the traitor Spector.
Dudester.....results are in on the primary. Incumbants went down like they were cannon fodder to a massed line of Red Coats.
Spector had a 27 point lead....he lost it and his seat. DEMs are trying to say the Sestak was their man from the get go. But then you got Obama saying Spector was hero of the day when he changed parties, and giving him a little O Love, promising that he would always be there for him. Just another political flippy flobby.
Murtha replace was man from his own office. A long time DC insider. He won in a squeker that should not have been. He is the sole incumbant to survive. Even he is not a real incumbant.
After that....incumbants.....were falling to the sword, banyonet, cannon, and mass rifle fire. Voters took no prisoners. AK....forced a incumbant runoff. KY ...voted in the Tea Party canidate 2 to 1. Obama saw all his canidate lose..in VA, NJ and MA.
You want to send the White House a some get well flowers. They are not feeling very good today.
Tea Parties Dudester carried the day. It was a low turn out....and favored them. Liberal and DEM did not show up to support Obama liberal and socialist agenda.
So now?
He has two choices.
He can try to go mid road again. But after health care....how does he do that?
Or can he can take a hard left turn and to rebuild his coalition in the DEM party.
After the smoke clears from this primary and the 2010, I don't think that he get the first option. He is going to need to rebuild his coalition. And even Rev Wright is not helping him.
Toss in the Becks, Limbaughs, Palins, attacks and these newly elected attacks. His Pelosi and Reid led Congress is going to fracture even more. He is going to stop getting calls to support them in campaigns. Why? He is becoming a political liability.
That is the other thing learned in the election. The candites he endorsed and supported lost.....
It is democracy...people are taking the country back...legally and with out violence....the way the fore fathers intended it to be done.
Obama started his intelligence teams. They work both in the US and outside of it. Not connected to the CIA or FBI.
Not sure I like this. He is using special law enforcement and intelligence teams to do interrogation of militant and radicals. But if their reports get stove piped....mean classified..so that other don't have access. It is all hidden intell that has little merit to other in homeland security.
Law enforcement has made special teams in the US for a number of years. FBI's Ness team was special to Mobster operations in the 1930s. So the structure and concept is not new.
Combine with the idea of no Miranda rights needed....mean suspects could be held for indefinite periods prior to seeing a attroney. Very RED China like there.
Then he still has the GITMO going. We get a influx of new AlQeada types from Afghanistan....were do they go? That is right, there is only several 100 alQeada left in Afghan and we are not going into the mountains to find them any more. We are doing nation building in the cities. The dots are connecting.
He does not want alQeada prisoners. They would keep GITMO open. So he changes the military operations in Afghanistan to limit the number caught. And has small estimate of their number made public. They had a estimate of several 100 alQeada at Marjah...took the city...were are the prisoners? GITMO did not increase in size. Either they did not take prisoners...meaning summary execution or they let slip out of the circled city on purpose. Maybe under Presidential orders........micro management from the White House remember?
The word I got...Taliban and alqeada were slipping out of the city at night. So not summary executions. But with out night vision and out air control...they should have been easy to find in that open terrian around Marjah
A military commander has to live with the reality he faces in the field. He cannot dictate the field or the opponents strength. Obama just has a threat estimate report written that say....I don't have alQeada to contend with. "Mission Accomplish, Country Defended."
He is just passing the buck off to the next President that is going to come into the office....thinking....'this alQeada affair is over and done with'.....opps......BANG
ttom500: Obama started his intelligence teams. They work both in the US and outside of it. Not connected to the CIA or FBI.
Not sure I like this. He is using special law enforcement and intelligence teams to do interrogation of militant and radicals. But if their reports get stove piped....mean classified..so that other don't have access. It is all hidden intell that has little merit to other in homeland security.
Law enforcement has made special teams in the US for a number of years. FBI's Ness team was special to Mobster operations in the 1930s. So the structure and concept is not new.
Combine with the idea of no Miranda rights needed....mean suspects could be held for indefinite periods prior to seeing a attroney. Very RED China like there.
Then he still has the GITMO going. We get a influx of new AlQeada types from Afghanistan....were do they go? That is right, there is only several 100 alQeada left in Afghan and we are not going into the mountains to find them any more. We are doing nation building in the cities. The dots are connecting.
He does not want alQeada prisoners. They would keep GITMO open. So he changes the military operations in Afghanistan to limit the number caught. And has small estimate of their number made public. They had a estimate of several 100 alQeada at Marjah...took the city...were are the prisoners? GITMO did not increase in size. Either they did not take prisoners...meaning summary execution or they let slip out of the circled city on purpose. Maybe under Presidential orders........micro management from the White House remember?
The word I got...Taliban and alqeada were slipping out of the city at night. So not summary executions. But with out night vision and out air control...they should have been easy to find in that open terrian around MarjahA military commander has to live with the reality he faces in the field. He cannot dictate the field or the opponents strength. Obama just has a threat estimate report written that say....I don't have alQeada to contend with. "Mission Accomplish, Country Defended."
He is just passing the buck off to the next President that is going to come into the office....thinking....'this alQeada affair is over and done with'.....opps......BANG
Your President is one shrewd cat, Dude. But it is not the oath of office he took....
ttom500: Your President is one shrewd cat, Dude. But it is not the oath of office he took....
Think that I am off int eh assessment?
Iraq just caught a alQEada that was planning World Cup attacks on the Dutch and Dane teams and their fan in SA. This guy is definitely a canidate for GITMO.
Our people interrogated him.....but he remains in Iraqi custody.
Meaning? When someone pays a bribe....he gets out.
It fits Dudester. Just like OJ's Glove should have at the trial that shrank in size because of the blood and night moisture it had on it. Soft calf skin leather shrinks when wet.
Obama holds off on telling the Yemen gov't about the cleric al-Awali connections to Hasan and the X-Mas day bomber....because if the Yemen gov't captures him....the logical thing is extradition to the US on conspriracy murder and terrorist charges....and were logically would you keep him....GITMO
The Pakistani gov't have now has held the 5 American Pakistani in custody for over....whet.....4 months? They were planning attacks on the US. Their crimes were going to be against American. They broke US law in the Patriot Act seeking to connect to terrorism in a foreign country. But? Were would you keep them?..........GITMO. These guys are alQeada home grown just like Gahdan.
And this alQeada caught in Iraq? He was planning a attack on DAne and Dutch....some maybe some your personal Danish friends. His crime is not in Iraq. But would be in SA. But the SA have not gotten word of his charges or his plot. Why is that? Well maybe because the Obama administration want to down play terrorism. So they keep a local story in Iraq. But this guy is alQeada and his logical home should be GITMO.
You know GITMO....sitting in the middle of 20,000 US Marines. That have the abilities to withstand a break out attack. That cover the waters and entry routes with sensor and lights. That make it a pretty safe place away from America propper...))..to hold some of the most dangerous men on the planet.
But Obama the DEM needed a international issue on GWB. One that would get the 1000s of $29.99 donations flowing from liberal around the world. Iraq was winding down. So was not Iraq. If they went after the war that 'had to be fought' in Afghansitan, they would seem unAmerican. So it was GITMO and the 420 alQeada prisoners there.
To spike it a little bit....Nancy Pelosi that was really closing her eyes when the CIA said enhanced interogation techniques (EIT) meetings rolled around...had it leaked that some waterboarding was going on down there.
It did not matter that after it was made public that GITMO prisoner might be facing harsh measure of treatment....that a number of US soldier that were captured on the field in iraq and Afghanistan were summarily executed....some tortured prior to being killed.
The waterboarding was the spike of info that made GWB the war monger that guys like you needed. So you gave mass broadcast on the net. Never thinking what it was doing to American soldiers...that were caught by the enemy.
But having promised to close GITMO, Obama has got his own problem. If he gets influx of alQeada types...he doesnot have a home for them. Few in the state wants the danger of having them. So just don't capture alQeada types...leave them in the custody of foreing countries.
The reason the it took 18 month to figure out the Afghan surge? Comes right back to this....if you surge, you got a pretty good chance of capturing a bunch of alQeada types. So you got to plan military missions for the surge that you don't capture them. That takes time.
Fits like a glove...
Did you send Obama $29.99, Dudester? I bet you did....maybe alot more. Now you know it went to making a international image for him, not to protect the American people. Because GITMO is a hot button on the international front to images. As long as he was promising to close it, he was your go to guy...........
But for the American people....GITMO is the safest place we could put them.
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