Obama is going to be rememberd as one of the best american presidents! (798)

I am going to make a case for EIT on the van der Sloot case.

Seems van der Sloot just told the Peruvian police he knows were Holloway is buried. So if so he is a mass murder. With likely more
murders to be found and located...in Europe, Asia, Aruba, and elsewhere.

But why is he coming forward now?

Well because he knows that the Peruvian prison is pretty harsh place for a gringo mass murder of women. And he is trading off prison time for info on other crimes.

So let us flip a little to SKM, Islamic terrorism and EITs....can we call him a mass murder as well? He has confessed to 9/11....at least did confess till the Obama and Holder gave him get of possible get out of jail card with a civilian trial.

What brought him to the confession and to giving up info on other terrorist plots....was the EITs.

Now Obama has forbidden EITs. has the x-Mas bomber given up any other plots? Hasan? The NY Time Square bomber? All we heard from the FEDs is that they are cooperating. I can cooperate by sitting down in a chair in the investigation room. Giving up other known plots and parties is another thing.

If Obama's way was better at getting other plots....would we not hear...this arrest was because of intell gained from Hasan? or the NYCity Time Square Bomber? Btu we are not.

van der Sloot and SMK both gave up important info because some harsh treatment was either being faced or given. For many in the alQeada net work, time in a US FED pen, is easier than the life they presently live. That does not sound right, but that is the way it is. It is far easier in a FED pen than in the Peruvian prison were van der Sloot is headed. Offer him US prison time, he would give up all of his victims, is my thinking.

You say we should not stoop to their level. Maybe so. That is moral question. But if you don't stoop to a certain level, to gleam the info from a SKM or a van der Sloot...then you will not hear what they are saying. Or piece together what they have done. The Dutch police in Aruba, did the Holloway case by staying to that high moral code. It got slitch from him. Peruvian police used just a bit of sleep deprivation on him....a 20 hour drive from Chile. And face him with some sever prison time. And he is talking.

Yes your Brain is made of Plastic Conrad

Did you know that when BP cut the pipe....on Obama's approval....assuming he is responsible....they actually increased the flow into the Gulf?

Up to 20% more is flowing out. That according to BP.

Now, the cap....is capturing maybe be 50%....but if you got a increase of 20%...you do the math. Putting the cap on....maybe got a 1/3 reduction.

Now BP has so run the outflow numbers game around on Obama and Thaad....that the FED have given us 3 different estimates on the flow rate.

Why is this important?

Because people like myself...that are doing protection proposal on the coastline of FL and TX have to be able to figure out expendables. The amount of stuff we use to do the control clean up. The more the flow rate, the more our expendables, yes?

It is just one of the little things like that the Administration has totally FUBAR and SNAFU that is causing them to have a real creditbility program here.

As one President of a Lousiana Parish said......"It is our asses, you are kicking, Mr. President."

So after pulling a week of 16 hours days on trying to figure out this CaC2 aerial burn off program....kiss my USA rosey red grits...if you think that REP hate the environment. I can let this CaC2 Proposal sit on the shelf and watch the oil come ashore here Florida. Crist is EX REP and Obama is a DEM....so I could care less if either gets re-elected.

But if they successfully defend Florida west coast beaches.....both might. So you better be nice to me. For I am likely about the only cat in town that has CaC2 slick burn off control program nearly figured out.

Read this....it will give you a idea of what it happening in Gulf
and what is headed for Florida.

Dude do you think that Obama is going to go to the World cup in the next 2 weeks?

He has to want to go really badly. It is a great photo op for him....to be with Mandela and African leaders. And if the US team loses in the first round....no way he can go afterwards.

So go now, while the BP oil well is still kicking out oil like a gusher or hold off hoping that the US team makes it thru the first rounds. The well gets capped and the pressure for emergency photo op down on the Gulf is not as big.

On the other side of the coin. If he passes on the World Cup, because of the BP crisis......he says to all of Africa that is
staging the World Cup games.....am sorry but I am President of the
US and am needed here. And snubs nearly a billion people. But if he goes while the BP crisis ongoing..he snubs 304m Americans.

So if he goes while the Gulf is in crisis, he will get toss out of the country.....that has little interest in major international Soccer. Sports and politics.....sometime they are like oil and water.

Decisions Decisions....and just really bad timing.... Having the World CUP and a Gulf oil well crisis at the same time. How does someone juggle a decision like this?

This is one we never studied in Poli Sci class. Go for the international acclaim and fame or stay home and protect the country and people the best you can. But his interest in a second term is really riding on it. I think.

If he hops out of the country soon...with the BP crisis going on....he say as much to us. International fame is more important to me, than you all are. Then if he does not go, he is telling the
the leaders of the World.....he does not want to sit in the same
stadium with them during World Cup.

I guess that is why he gets the big bucks and they all stop with him.

Your argument is wearing thin,Dude!
The Demorats have been running the Ship for three years now.
Even you ought to see now what banged up Job they are doing,unless you are Blind in One Eye,and can't see out of the Other!

Well ain't this sweet.....with continued unrest on Krygyistan, the country with more Y's in it name than the UN permits.....just asked
the Russian Army to enter the country (invade the country) to subdue the ousted leaders supporters.

Yep.....if one remember how the 1980's Afghan/Russian war began....
the Russians used several political tactics to get their tanks and forces into the country. One was civil unrest. The same for 1950's Hungary. Were you have civil unrest in country near Russia, you can soon expect T type tank rolling down your streets. It worked in Georgia, yes?

Many people talk about the USA being the police man of the world. But old and new Russia have done its share of policing as well.
Only they like to do it with little toys that go bang when a child picks them up.

I am sure Medvedev and Putin will have modernize the Russian occuptational tactics by now. They will likely be more like the second Chechen conflict, were Putin totally destroyed various
Chechen cities. Medvedev is after all is a protiege of Putin.

But we need to remember how this came about. When Pres. Obama and Pres. Medvedev signed the START....the Y country had a coup. Now at the time, the Obama adminstration was saying....they did not see in Russia sponsoring of the coup (to which a lot hacking and coughing were heard in the listening press corp). While on the same day, the Y country coup leaders were thanking the Russians for their support in another press conference.

Ever since the Y country has been hit with civil unrest....people will fight for that thing called democracy. With Russian troop to hold up the coup, how long this civil unrest will go on, is anyone guess. But the longer, the more the death toll will be.

The US has a stake in the country as well. With about 10,000 at a airbase in the Y country....now it will surrounded by Coup forces and Russian forces. Don't plan on going on long extended day passes guys....there will be so many road check points around that it will not be worth the time.

So the new Russia....adding parts of Georgia...now adding all of the Y Country....can Ukraine be far behind? That is right, the new
Ukraine leaning Russian gov't just gave the Russian a 99 year base contract for a base on the Black Sea. No need to invade the Ukraine. Well that leaves.............Eastern Europe........were
recently the Polish President a supporter of the missile defense program of GWB....just happens to be killed in a aircraft accident in Russia. While this might purely be an accident, the man that took his place is pro Russian.

This has to be depressing to the Obama adminstration to be abused by the Russian on so many international political fronts all in his first 15 months in office. The rate it is going....by his term ends in 2011, the Russians will have parts of Japan, most of Germany and some of France. Maybe even some of Norway...heck...add in Denmark.

Just because Dude live there.))

A news report out...that Karsia is having secret meetings with the Taliban. He just had the Jhardid ?? (Peace Conference) that the Taliban refused to attend. Indeed attempted to break apart.

With a questionable brother, Karisa is reminded me more of some of the South Vet Nam leaders during the Vet Nam war. Here one day, gone the next. Always playing both sides, to get what was in the middle.

The election that he ran was pretty much a joke. Had he ran a good election, the pressure on Iran to be more democratic would have increased. But Iran ran theirs and he ran one nearly as bad.

Just no George Washington left in the world anymore......

Yeah TT... being the president of the country is a real difficult job and thats,s exactly one of the many reasons good americans who really care a bout their own country should stand behind their prsident during this real hard time with two wars and threats against americans and an economical melt down and then an ecological catastrophe... instead of acting in benefit of Alqueda and the mullah,s regim and other AH,s as those... you see?

Some day soon more americans will realise that they got to stand to gether during this harder time in american histroy instead of keep listening to major AH,s as Limbaugh or other out of brain personalities who are making millions out of stoopidoes willing to adore them as a master of knowledge or stuff

If that is accurate, that Americans 'got to stand together', why did DEM flip on GWB in 2004-2007? The flip was done for political reasons. Not because 1m were dieing in Iraq. Not because GWB was going to be the next Christian crusader in the middle east. Not because GWB was a hard or cold man? Which are all very inaccurate.

But because they saw political opportunity. So all that was junked out there in the media and DEM circles.

DEMs got what they wanted....a fractured country.
Europe got what it economically wanted....a fractured US
Russia got what it militarily wanted.....a fractured US

Now liberals are trying to put a bandaide over a heart incision. To save the Obama adminstration, that is finding it needs those conservative types...that know about the military, intel gathering, oil rigs, aircraft, and other tech and services area that you avoided learning in school.

You wanted a deep divide of the political ends of the country to get what you wanted. And tore it a part at the middle...what do you expect? A bandaide are not going to work solve the injury here.

Think that I am off here?

BP....is a pretty conservative multi national firm....meaning it managers and board of director are REP and Conservatives in the US and UK. They would rather spend billions in clean up cost, than let the Obama administration manage the spill and attempt well head fixes.

There is a growing friction between Obama Administration and BP.
And it is all along the political schism.

It would be interesting to see a poll of enlistments party identification after Obama election. Think that 60% REP figure in the military changed much after he took the changed much? No, I don't think so.

The education that a liberal youths gets in home and schools...seldom prepares him/her for a career of public service or military service to the country. Obama saying...'hey take low paying jobs in your community'.....that is neither military service or public service. That is being a community organizer or ACORN register signing up 100s of fake voter registrations.

Which of course to us that understand the importance and fairness of the one person one vote....means that a political play for control of the country is being made.

He had a conservative straight talker in the position, John. He did not like what he was hearing...so remove the messenger. Problem solved here. Problem just not solved in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen or Somalia.

But since you seem more interested in a media evening sound bite...than real homeland security....we could make it Katie Curic....or one of the View Girls. They are cute and fuzzy friendly. Most of the time. But stopping a Hasan, or a bin Laden, or alAwalki? Good luck my friend.))

Interesting that Neplantino's Homeland Security is dropping the ball more times than a quarter back with broken hand....Obama fires his conservative intell chief....Neplantino is still in office.

Hey Dude, Maybe you can answer a question that sprung up here.

What is NATO doing with the alQeada type that it is detaining in
Afghanistan? Are they giving them to the Afghani? If so, surest way to a summary execution that I know of. That is what happened in
France in WWII, when allied forces gave German POW to the French forces. Or at best some pretty harsh treatment in the Afghani prisons.

NATO is not giving them to the USA. Because GITMO would be increasing in numbers. And it is not.And their is no GITMO like facility in Europe. Or is NATO simply not taking any alQeada prisoners? Meaning either they are letting them go or worse....

So what is NATO doing with alQeada type prisoners?

This needs your URGENT Attention!

LOL...while Islamic countries seem perfectly fit to hold foreigners in hostage situations...and then have the offending Swiss pay $1.5m in restitution when they break the laws in a foreign country.

Kind of reminds me of the Somalian pirates only played by the Kaddfi family and Lybia. Modern Islamic countries have a way of playing that kind of game, yes?

Here is another one. Report out now that says the Pakistani ISI...their version of the secret service....was arming....guess who......all these years....post 9/11 in Afghanistan.......the Afgahani Taliban.

While the US is pumping billions into Pakistan. And Pakistan is threatened by the Pakistani Taliban, The Pakistani ISI is supplying weapons and aid to the Afghani Taliban that are killing both American
and NATO next door.

Who would have ever have dream that?

Ever wonder why GWB severed relationship with Marsharreff in his last couple of month in office? Your truly knows.

The Pakistani Army denies is and says it is rubbish. But you got the highly respectable Economic Times of London....saying other wise.

Is the age of the three card monty game. Were everyone and everyone can pull a fast one on anyone and everyone. Looks like Pres. Obama better hold his cards tight and his friends closer.

Remember how the same Karsai behaved not too long time a go and called America bad names and disgraced the american presidency
and so on even America have done so much for that country becoming a safer place for people? Karsai is definately not my cup of tea and I beleive this guy should leave power after the last election there where people really tried to replace him ... and did so actually... if.... the reuslts were taken for real and if cheating did not exist in Afghanistan.

Yeah... a Geroge Washington, Afghani style would definately be more than good for Afghanistan right now but... I beleive concidering the amount of fenatism is high and a real understading for democracy and importance of freedom is non existent in Afghanistan and it may take generations before Afghansitan is there and beside Taliban of Pakistan will not let Afghanistan go this easy

Not a bad idea at all but still I beleive Palin getting too deep inside the power corridors of the USA would mean a lot corruption and concidering the economical situaton of America more corruption would be more than bad for the states right now and beside... I am not really feeling "secured" for the sake of the presidnential family with that woman too deep inside... palin is not totaly Well and she can easily showing her true psykopat natur if she is in the propper environment.

Dude,Dude,Dude!
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I would not be able to give a propper answer to this question of your,s I am sorry to admit. ''

What I know is most battels going on between Nato forces and Taliban are smaller but very hard fights where a sell is discovered or a group involved in bombing civilians is located and then they are attacked from Nato and not many can be able to survive such attacks. We are talking a bout massive bombardements and then smaller battles all with massive supperior Nato arms and Taliban fights hard till the last man and want to become "Martyr" as well and so on.

Some prisoners are given to Afghani army of course because of being our allies some how and then what happens to them is up to the afghani government. some are also released a gain as I have heard and that is because of being a small fish mercenary being a part of Taliban thing for money and because of hunger and poverty of the family and not because of ideology and stuff.

Who would have ever have dream that ??????????

I did not Dream that TT but I knew this and told you a bout this a million times before during these threads and you can go back and find my exact words a bout this if you have forgot

Of course and with no doubts what so ever the pakistani secret service is and have been cooporating with terrorists since the very begining of this horrible BS and next time TT... if you are like not knwoing a bout some thing just ask Moi and I will happily provide you with great intelligence if I possibly can

that is exactly why I suggest you asking me a bout Palin and Beck and W and cheney and the rest of the bunch but you never listen to me