Hoarding Questions

To my friend that asked questions regarding hoarding made the answer often "no not a hoarder" however hear are my answers to his questions--questions are in blue - red my answers

I asked the below questions on an earlier blog, but no one answered, so I repeat them here. How about some opinions. I used unusual names to avoid pinpointing any member. No specific person was intended.

Olga has 343 cans of tuna fish, but tuna has value, and Olga likes tuna. Is Olga a hoarder?
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If this is all that she has in high quantity and they are organized then NO not a hoarder.

Bill has 4 pairs of shoes. His wife has 26 pairs of shoes. Should Bill send his wife for hoarding treatment?
If this is all she collects then NO

Warren Buffet has billions of dollars, more than he and his family could ever spend. He strives for more. Is Warren a hoarder?
Hoarder is not the word I would use since hoarder means collecting of WORTHLESS JUNK which money is not.

Jill likes top sew, and has a 9 storage box "stash" of cloth. Is Jill a hoarder?
No not a hoarder UNLESS she has a gazillion other things she may or may not get to one day.

Jeremy takes nature photos and saves over 1600 pics on his computer even though there are far better photos of all the animals than his available. Is Jeremy a hoarder?
NO he is a photographer

Tony has a pile of scrap metal, 5 feet high, hundreds of pounds, that he sometimes uses to weld metal sculptures. Should Tony's wife seek a professional hoarder counsellor for him?
If he uses it for art he is an artist but if he has piles of other worthless junk of course he is a hoarder

Edna has a dog. Shirley has 3 cats. Robert has 6 dogs. Rachael has 11 cats. Charlie has 52 pigeons. Rebecca has 27 dogs. Sarah has 216 cats. Which are pet hoarders and which are not? What do you base your opinion on?
My opinions come from my heart and brain plus you tube or news. Hoarders with more animals than they can handle have no medical care, not enough food and many dead bodies in their abode. Now you tell me which ones are hoarders.

A well known hoarder is the Mormon Church which tells members to have a 2 year supply of food. Are the Mormons devout or doomsday preppers? Another well known hoarder is the government of Sweden who tells all Swedes to have a minimum of a 2 week supply of everything on hand. Are those Swedes tin foil hatted hoarders or just prudent providers?
Again Mormons are not hoarding worthless junk so NO they are not hoarders.

Hoarders collect more than old newspapers and fast food wrappers. What do YOU have lots of? Are YOU a hoarder of something?

I wrote a blog about discovering when I went to move from Orlando to Tampa that I was a food hoarder. Although it was not worthless junk and I had it well organized, it was not needed and I've worked hard at correcting the habit.

I don't know why no one else answered but these are my answers. I'm guessing you are defending the word hoarders so let me be clear. I'm not judging a person for hoarding, hoarders can be great people but some have a mental challenge, some don't appear to. My biggest reason is saying I could not ever again live with a hoarder. A collector yes. The difference is "worthless junk". Sadly the mind of a true hoarder cannot determine the difference because (most common reason) they may need it someday."
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If the definition of a hoarder is that they keep 'worthless junk', does Olga become a hoarder if she can't eat all of her cans of tuna before they go out of date, or perish in some other way?

I have tailoring stock that at one time I could make money from, but getting it ready for sale was time consuming. Now I have less time and energy, some of it has become worthless to me. Am I a hoarder because I haven't found the time and energy to get rid of the materials which have become worthless?

You also contradicted yourself saying that you used to hoard food, even though it wasn't worthless.

I'm not trying to be critical of you Fay, just trying to be critical of what 'hoarding' may mean.

You have focussed on worth of, and multiple items, but if someone has hundreds of cats they can't care for, they are only hoarding one thing The definition doesn't seem to necessitate the collection of multiple categories of items, either.

I think hoarding has degrees of severity and it's to do with mindset. I have two small boxes of dry store foods. I find it cheaper, more convenient and more nutritious to store some items, but there is an element of hoarding: I have an anxiety about going without food learned via my mother's WWII experiences in Germany and from my own experience of poverty.

Perhaps the definition of hoarding should centre around the harm caused to the self, or to others, not the amount, the number, or the financial worth. Perhaps the solution should centre around what the collecting symbolises for that person and whether it's functional, or detrimental.

I propose hoarding is the collection of items which in some way results in harm to the self, or others and that the behaviour is indicative of some transference of emotion and/or cognition.
Me and a friend were asked to check on an old who was an aquaintence because his niece hadn't heard from him for some time...

We got to his house and had to break in...and there were stacks of boxes, newspapers, magazines, broken stuff (cat waste) etc. to the extent that I had to literally climb over the stuff to search the rooms. We didn't find him at home and I was relieved to be outside again.

That's not keeping a couple of weeks-worth of food in case of an emergency. I couldn't even figure out where he slept or if there was a toilet and I wasn't about to start digging.

People can make excuses, but when you have to blaze a 'trail' through the junk to find the refrigerator...I'd say there are some issues.

I tend to be quite the opposite these days. In an emergency...Well, I'd be in the same boat as many of the 7billion+ people on this planet...and why shouldn't I be? Why should I deserve more?

dunno
This is true hoarding ~~~~~


I would say hoarding becomes an issue if it affects the quality of your life, or the lives of those living with you.
What if someone hoards to feel good and so improves their quality of life, but it someone else thinks its a potential fire hazard with no actual fire and noone else at risk?
If nobody else lives in the house, then they can burn in their hoard of that's what they want.
I think I must be a shoe hoarder rolling on the floor laughing
Jac,

What if someone hoards to feel good and so improves their quality of life, but it someone else thinks its a potential fire hazard with no actual fire and noone else at risk?


Hoarding to the degree shown in the video is a mental illness. People with a mental illness of that sort think they are hoarding to feel good but they think that because they have a mental illness.

Not being able to walk in your house without climbing over piles of stuff does not improve their quality of life.

If you watched some of the video you would see that people suffer with breathing problems for various reasons. They put themselves into debt from buying things they don't need but instead just want.

In one story a man's wife died because the rescue squad couldn't get a stretcher in the house to take her to the hospital because there wasn't a pathway to get to her.

You don't have to see a fire to be prepared for a fire.
Your video was unavailable in my country, Secret.
I see the different views 'n' all, but also consider that the more one hoards resources, the more likely that someone else might go without.

I'll not go into how much the average American consumes compared to the average ________ (fill in the blank).

Bumper Sticker Philosophy: Live simply, so that others may simply live.
innocent
Aah, you're talking about quantity and value again, BD.

Hoarding is a mindset, a psychological function.

It may not take much in the way of resources at all.
Just another angle, Jac. No need to argue about facts.
Hoarders have a hoarding disorder.

Hoarding disorder is a persistent difficulty discarding or parting with possessions because of a perceived need to save them. A person with hoarding disorder experiences distress at the thought of getting rid of the items. Excessive accumulation of items, regardless of actual value, occurs. (mental illness could also contribute to this behavior).
LaFonda, so if a man goes to a hoar house and pays money for a hoar he has a hoarding disorder? confused
I don't know why no one else answered...

Busy...
I'm on day 5 of getting my niece and nephew out of the rented house in Florida as they relocated to California.

It deserves a blog of it's own!
When I talk about hoarding I should use the words extreme hoarding which is where I feel the mental disorder kicks in. I'm also not talking or judging the hoarder themselves only the fact that I could not live with one. The conditions in the video or the description of what BadlyDrawn said is exactly what terrifies me and that is what I'm blogging about. Everyone probably has some hoarding tendancies including myself.

I've also swung to the other side, I lost the sentimental value of almost everything. I gave birth to two sentimental kids, I used to be sentimental myself but somewhere along the line I have to give it or throw it away.

Thanks everyone
I'm a hoarder as I have a lot of maybe useless stuff. Have to say maybe useless as I could give someone 30 1kg magarine tubs and another one 20 mayonnaise bottles when they needed it. Keep mostly everything that looks remotely usefull as out here in the sticks you never know. At least it can still fit into a fairly small store room so I need not climb over stuff in search of the stove or toilet.
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I currently have 50 lb.+ of Tamale Masa, which I use quite regularly - one of my preferred carbohydrates.

I bought 12 4.4 lb. bags of it for $0.167/bag ... Over 50 lb. for $2.00 shock

I am NOT a hoarder scold

I'm cheap grin

cowboy
Wow Mic what a bargain. Do you use the masa for something else or just tamales?

Heavens to mergatory I want some Mexican now.
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