Depression & mental illness
I see we have yet another blog about the above....and truthfully we've heard it all before on previous blogs.
Not that I disagree with any such topics as some are therapeutic for many....
I sympathise with anyone who must live with such conditions
if and when genuine.
But when is anyone ever going to have the balls to blog about the other side of the matter that no-one ever really wants to discuss.
If and when someone ever does, by all means give me a shout.
Comments (71)
Why do you want to know, would it make a difference to the sentencing of Stephen Silver?
actually that's a stupid question.... it would be MASSIVE, however would they handle it, or cover it up in other words."
The courts may have been referring to the fact they felt it was not related to Silver's mental illness. He was on trial. I do not know legally if Horkan's state would have been relevant.
I cannot see journalists don't know and i cannot see all of them covering it up if it was relevant to the case.
Why I want to know is I might look into it or ask someone to. You can pm me any more you know if you want.
As to making a difference I'm sure Silver's defence know and if it it relevant will appeal. I would say they may appeal anyway.
There are rules around court and what evidence is allowed. It does not necessarily mean the judge is corrupt
You're a journalist oh hell .....or are you?
nothing personal but not my favourite type of people either.
If and when a judge allows others ridiculous accusations and does not direct the jury to dismiss certain said things ... in my eyes, there you have a crooked judge.
Mental illness just does not effect the patient themselves ....
it effects loved ones also and their struggles to help and support them, and those who can't and why.
Are you a judge fan?
I get the feeling you don't like me referring to them as crooked.
Mental illness just does not effect the patient themselves ....
it effects loved ones also and their struggles to help and support them, and those who can't and why.
Are you a judge fan?
I get the feeling you don't like me referring to them as crooked.
No way would the defence leave that unturned if it were true and could be used as defence. I didn't follow the case very closely but I bet the defence lawyers did. And I am not lawyer fan either.
"You're a journalist oh hell .....or are you?
nothing personal but not my favourite type of people either." it not like i asked you to marry me
How do i stop these moving icons, emoji or whatever they are
No way would the defence leave that unturned if it were true and could be used as defence. I didn't follow the case very closely but I bet the defence lawyers did. And I am not lawyer fan either.
"You're a journalist oh hell .....or are you?
nothing personal but not my favourite type of people either." it not like i asked you to marry me
How do i stop these moving icons, emoji or whatever they are
I haven't seen you using icons let alone moving ones....
so I'm afraid I can't help you there.
Maybe lets forget about the Stephen Silver trial as this was not intended to be about it....
just used it as an example.
As for cops judges and the whole lot, some journalists also....
I'm well aware of the dirty tricks they play.
I haven't seen you using icons let alone moving ones....
so I'm afraid I can't help you there.
Maybe lets forget about the Stephen Silver trial as this was not intended to be about it....
just used it as an example.
As for cops judges and the whole lot, some journalists also....
I'm well aware of the dirty tricks they play.
Referring to your 8 and 40 year sentences, it is worthwhile reflecting that both carer and afflicted are often sentenced for life.
I too had hitherto seen few or no threads about mental illness.
I haven't seen you using icons let alone moving ones....
so I'm afraid I can't help you there.
Maybe lets forget about the Stephen Silver trial as this was not intended to be about it....
just used it as an example.
As for cops judges and the whole lot, some journalists also....
I'm well aware of the dirty tricks they play.
I just click in on which ever and up there her pops in along side the comment.
On the phone, its different, there below...
same procedure but I'm not sure.
Maybe someone helpful will come along and explain the proper know how.
he's due for parole in 30yrs.
If I'm wrong about anything else, feel obliged to put me right
Bedtime for me Words" so Oíche Mhaith from me to you
he's due for parole in 30yrs.
If I'm wrong about anything else, feel obliged to put me right
Bedtime for me Words" so Oíche Mhaith from me to you
Is there a reason why bipolar suffers come off their meds?
there seems to be so many these days so there must be a reason, side effects or whatever, I don't know... but it would be interesting to know why the meds work perfectly for some but unfortunately not for all.
Assuming you know that is?
When my son was in his early 20's he suffered server anxiety attacks, he was put on medication which seemed to of brought his condition under control until after an X amount of time when he decided the side effects weren't worth it. he quit them came straight off them which was dangerous but that's what he done, got his head in certain books which lead him to learn how to control his condition himself, thankfully he hasn't looked back since... well' almost that is.
Also, when you have a mental illness that is viewed so negatively, you just want to be "normal", and being on meds makes you feel like something is really wrong with you. All the above has happened to me at one point, but I finally found two medications that help. I'm also learning diet is extremely important to mental health. Maybe your son can supplement his self-healing with learning about a healthy diet.
Also, when you have a mental illness that is viewed so negatively, you just want to be "normal", and being on meds makes you feel like something is really wrong with you. All the above has happened to me at one point, but I finally found two medications that help. I'm also learning diet is extremely important to mental health. Maybe your son can supplement his self-healing with learning about a healthy diet.
my apologies for not getting back to you sooner.
Life can be shit, depressing, sometimes its a task not to be pissed off as often...
but being totally fed up is not quiet the same as someone suffering with depression, having said that... when having the blues tends to linger, I know depression can set in.
I agree with your comment
and no more than it should be used as an excuse, nor either should it be a reason for GP's to hand out " happy tablets" as quickly as some do.
Welcome to the blogs Eagle
Also, when you have a mental illness that is viewed so negatively, you just want to be "normal", and being on meds makes you feel like something is really wrong with you. All the above has happened to me at one point, but I finally found two medications that help. I'm also learning diet is extremely important to mental health. Maybe your son can supplement his self-healing with learning about a healthy diet.
" I wonder do all such meds, have that same effect"
it was when an elderly woman in family died, he was completely heartbroken yet couldn't feel the loss let alone shed a tear... that's when he had enough of the meds freezing his emotions.
he was lucky the book helped him take back control and I am well aware not everyone is and can be as fortunate as him... thanks for the advice about a healthy diet, I'll pass it on
You've been through the mill and I'm delighted you finally feel you've come out the better side of it all, I can only but imagine all the sacrifices you must of made, to of had
I can understand why you say some view mental illness in a negative light but that's humane behaviour for you, sometimes we don't care to understand the difficulties of others until it's on our own front door.
Having said that, not all are guilty of that same trait ....
and it's a pity for some suffers, they don't remember that more often.
Tah kindly for your comments MB and may you continue on being as successful as you've become.
" I wonder do all such meds, have that same effect"
it was when an elderly woman in family died, he was completely heartbroken yet couldn't feel the loss let alone shed a tear... that's when he had enough of the meds freezing his emotions.
he was lucky the book helped him take back control and I am well aware not everyone is and can be as fortunate as him... thanks for the advice about a healthy diet, I'll pass it on
You've been through the mill and I'm delighted you finally feel you've come out the better side of it all, I can only but imagine all the sacrifices you must of made, to of had
I can understand why you say some view mental illness in a negative light but that's humane behaviour for you, sometimes we don't care to understand the difficulties of others until it's on our own front door.
Having said that, not all are guilty of that same trait ....
and it's a pity for some suffers, they don't remember that more often.
Tah kindly for your comments MB and may you continue on being as successful as you've become.
Thank you
So glad your son is doing well. Sometimes not being on medication is a good thing. Not often, but he sounds way better off now. Low libido isn't a side effect in all medications. His lack of emotion is something that has occurred in me. There are so many medications for depression, bipolar, schizophrenia, anxiety, stress, PTSD, etc. that side effects are different in all of them with many overlapping. Trouble is psychopharmacology lags so far behind in long term affects very few meds are not prescribed anymore. The only medication that isn't really used anymore is imipramine. Long term use has shown a great effect on short and long term memory. Some meds are still prescribed even though there is a chance of a person committing suicide. I just think the whole industry is somehow rigged to where the pharma companies want doctors to whip out their prescription pads and proscribe anyone showing the least bit of trouble. Medication has been a Godsend in many cases, but at what cost in the long run?
Personally, I haven't made sacrifices, just lost out on what is "normal" in life. Never married with no children. No career to look back on with accomplishment. I'm 61 next week and I am just starting to live the life I want to. I am very lucky in that way that I can look forward to the good days ahead! A terrific friend has taught me that valuable lesson in the last few years and I am grateful.
Thank you for bringing up this topic.
So glad your son is doing well. Sometimes not being on medication is a good thing. Not often, but he sounds way better off now. Low libido isn't a side effect in all medications. His lack of emotion is something that has occurred in me. There are so many medications for depression, bipolar, schizophrenia, anxiety, stress, PTSD, etc. that side effects are different in all of them with many overlapping. Trouble is psychopharmacology lags so far behind in long term affects very few meds are not prescribed anymore. The only medication that isn't really used anymore is imipramine. Long term use has shown a great effect on short and long term memory. Some meds are still prescribed even though there is a chance of a person committing suicide. I just think the whole industry is somehow rigged to where the pharma companies want doctors to whip out their prescription pads and proscribe anyone showing the least bit of trouble. Medication has been a Godsend in many cases, but at what cost in the long run?
Personally, I haven't made sacrifices, just lost out on what is "normal" in life. Never married with no children. No career to look back on with accomplishment. I'm 61 next week and I am just starting to live the life I want to. I am very lucky in that way that I can look forward to the good days ahead! A terrific friend has taught me that valuable lesson in the last few years and I am grateful.
Thank you for bringing up this topic.
She is a very special person.
She is a very special person.
So glad your son is doing well. Sometimes not being on medication is a good thing. Not often, but he sounds way better off now. Low libido isn't a side effect in all medications. His lack of emotion is something that has occurred in me. There are so many medications for depression, bipolar, schizophrenia, anxiety, stress, PTSD, etc. that side effects are different in all of them with many overlapping. Trouble is psychopharmacology lags so far behind in long term affects very few meds are not prescribed anymore. The only medication that isn't really used anymore is imipramine. Long term use has shown a great effect on short and long term memory. Some meds are still prescribed even though there is a chance of a person committing suicide. I just think the whole industry is somehow rigged to where the pharma companies want doctors to whip out their prescription pads and proscribe anyone showing the least bit of trouble. Medication has been a Godsend in many cases, but at what cost in the long run?
Personally, I haven't made sacrifices, just lost out on what is "normal" in life. Never married with no children. No career to look back on with accomplishment. I'm 61 next week and I am just starting to live the life I want to. I am very lucky in that way that I can look forward to the good days ahead! A terrific friend has taught me that valuable lesson in the last few years and I am grateful.
Thank you for bringing up this topic.
But just to pick up on at what cost in the long.
Years ago after the last of my aunts five, ventured out and left home, she went through an awful phase of loneliness, felt useless no longer needed... THE emptyNEST syndrome can be difficult for some mothers, more so some than others, after failing her struggles to come through the blues, her friend told her how " happy tablets" had done wonders for her, so maybe she should go speak to her doctor.
She had no problem when first prescribed them, likeso when he upped her dose, tripled it changed it, tried a different drug instead. To cut a long miserable story short, she ended up so many times in the psychiatric ward.
When her stays there were becoming one day too many, the professionals took it upon themselves to tell her there is absolutely nothing wrong with her mentally, everything was all in her head.
They notified her doctor suggesting he stops supplying the pills, which he did but worse... they also told her family she was an attention seeker, and with that her family turned against her for putting them through all the stress and misery worrying about her, and all for nothing.
April 2019 being in another dark place yet again, she returned back to the hospital crying pleading with them to take her in, that she didn't feel safe, felt very close to ending it all.
They depressed head these people created was turned away, and instead of any compassion of any sort for my aunt, they told her to go home and pull up her socks.
She went home as ordered but rather then full filling their second command, she filled her pockets of stones instead, threw herself into the sea.
All the locals knew why this had happened yet when it broke on the news/ media....
nowhere was it mentioned woman takes her own life after being refused and turned away from the hospital after seeking assistance for mental/ suicidal issues, instead it was reported elderly woman slips on rocks and drowns.
Apologies for going on with a bit of a rant here
but when you mention at what price, it brings me right back to her and how the professionals/ society let her down... but no-one more so then her family, they should of known her better than take the word of overpaid doctors/shrinks or what ever it is, they call themselves.
Call me a witch but I get some satisfaction when her family now suffer with the guilt for letting her down...
and so they should
I know you are a storm which knows its direction and speed...but what about the devastation caused by your...
I know you are a storm which knows its direction and speed...but what about the devastation caused by your...
Brave question/suggestion, I'll give you that
and I won't be a hypocrite here, I too have questioned is one miserable life worth the misery to others.
For the record I'm not a storm ...
more like a cool needed breeze in the early evenings
But just to pick up on at what cost in the long.
Years ago after the last of my aunts five, ventured out and left home, she went through an awful phase of loneliness, felt useless no longer needed... THE emptyNEST syndrome can be difficult for some mothers, more so some than others, after failing her struggles to come through the blues, her friend told her how " happy tablets" had done wonders for her, so maybe she should go speak to her doctor. (shortened)
I’m not on here that much anymore – consolidating/moving, but the empty nest syndrome can be devastating if the kids didn’t make their mom feel wanted or useful. Here’s where drinking, drugs and other issues come in being isolated. She was calling out for help and being on happy pills doesn’t help. Pacifies as the problem gets worse and someone gets addicted. I’m not going to guess any further, but the medical industry has gone downhill like everything else. Starting to think they’re doctors of death. Hope I didn’t I misinterpret you wrong here?
I hope mbken and serene are well with issues for themselves and others. Takes the wind out of one but keep fighting for the good and healthy.
I wish you the best in your future.
But just to pick up on at what cost in the long.
Years ago after the last of my aunts five, ventured out and left home, she went through an awful phase of loneliness, felt useless no longer needed... THE emptyNEST syndrome can be difficult for some mothers, more so some than others, after failing her struggles to come through the blues, her friend told her how " happy tablets" had done wonders for her, so maybe she should go speak to her doctor.
She had no problem when first prescribed them, likeso when he upped her dose, tripled it changed it, tried a different drug instead. To cut a long miserable story short, she ended up so many times in the psychiatric ward.
When her stays there were becoming one day too many, the professionals took it upon themselves to tell her there is absolutely nothing wrong with her mentally, everything was all in her head.
They notified her doctor suggesting he stops supplying the pills, which he did but worse... they also told her family she was an attention seeker, and with that her family turned against her for putting them through all the stress and misery worrying about her, and all for nothing.
April 2019 being in another dark place yet again, she returned back to the hospital crying pleading with them to take her in, that she didn't feel safe, felt very close to ending it all.
They depressed head these people created was turned away, and instead of any compassion of any sort for my aunt, they told her to go home and pull up her socks.
She went home as ordered but rather then full filling their second command, she filled her pockets of stones instead, threw herself into the sea.
All the locals knew why this had happened yet when it broke on the news/ media....
nowhere was it mentioned woman takes her own life after being refused and turned away from the hospital after seeking assistance for mental/ suicidal issues, instead it was reported elderly woman slips on rocks and drowns.
Apologies for going on with a bit of a rant here
but when you mention at what price, it brings me right back to her and how the professionals/ society let her down... but no-one more so then her family, they should of known her better than take the word of overpaid doctors/shrinks or what ever it is, they call themselves.
Call me a witch but I get some satisfaction when her family now suffer with the guilt for letting her down...
and so they should
But just to pick up on at what cost in the long.
Years ago after the last of my aunts five, ventured out and left home, she went through an awful phase of loneliness, felt useless no longer needed... THE emptyNEST syndrome can be difficult for some mothers, more so some than others, after failing her struggles to come through the blues, her friend told her how " happy tablets" had done wonders for her, so maybe she should go speak to her doctor. (shortened)
I’m not on here that much anymore – consolidating/moving, but the empty nest syndrome can be devastating if the kids didn’t make their mom feel wanted or useful. Here’s where drinking, drugs and other issues come in being isolated. She was calling out for help and being on happy pills doesn’t help. Pacifies as the problem gets worse and someone gets addicted. I’m not going to guess any further, but the medical industry has gone downhill like everything else. Starting to think they’re doctors of death. Hope I didn’t I misinterpret you wrong here?
I hope mbken and serene are well with issues for themselves and others. Takes the wind out of one but keep fighting for the good and healthy.
and yes" you've understood me perfectly.
Drugs and drink can just be another wrong road to go down and once they do, the depression is no longer seen but an addictive abuser instead... whom some people have less compassion for and those who do, often struggle with.
That same week my aunt took her life, so too did a local eighteen year old boy....
hours before he hung himself he too was turned away from the hospital when he sought help.
Two weeks ago it was in our local paper how a father drove his 18yr old son X amount of miles to our hospital, poor lad was in an accident which caused him a finger... they took his finger put it in a fridge, sent them away suggesting a BB and come back in the morning when someone will around to treat him then... with no pain treatment, both father and son were sent on their way.
This evening another story broke of a serious s*xual assault on an elderly patient in a nursing home and since reported, another 21 cases/complaints are to follow
To think we Irish are building the most expensive hospital in the world, yet we don't have proper skilled professionals to REALLY care for our most vulnerable, in my books its not a hospital but the most expensive show case I've ever seen ... wasted good money that could be well spent elsewhere.
And I'm ranting again
Oh well, Slainte Mr Dat
Perfectly fine ranting about the subject – better than holding it in. I laugh at stress but don’t want to owe anyone an excuse to not get back to them. No worries - no pan in-ten-ded?
Ireland would probably be on a macro scale for exposure than in the U.S. Regional/national. The system is breaking down. Most issues happening get swept under the rug and people aren’t heard - depends how it’s taken, but always in the back of someone’s mind.
Again, disturbing indeed spending/building a new hospital while the personnel may not have the proper training, overwhelmed or short-staffed? Maybe it was needed? Staph related infections happen after operations at times? I don’t know this situation well there.
Sorry for your aunt, still must be difficult for you to cope with it all. The boys mentioned here also. But I think keeping your best memories of her inside would help you cope with her loss every time the worst thoughts come to mind. It’s always difficult. You have to make peace with this in time. Well, my thoughts, I’d still want to remember the good times as a memorial. To each their own? She may not have wanted to go that way and sad how it ended. I had a childhood buddy go thru stage 4 skin cancer struggling to stay alive with all the medical available and died within a year. Went thru h3ll.
A little after the fact but surprised you don’t have outpatient places to at least get painkillers and ice the guy’s finger? Usually, they will contact the hospital if seriousness is considered? Maybe that’s just here? Compassion is lacking now. Common sense is what matters. Cost is always factored in. Startling, but true.
A woman called 911 reporting a 4-year-old kid walking on the side of the interstate a few days ago. She stopped beyond him, pulled over to keep tabs until police could show up. By the time the police got there, the gal had called 911 just prior to say a car pulled over, picked up the kid and identified the car – but not the tags. The car couldn’t be found to date. Child trafficking-kidnapped or saved by someone else? Don’t know how it turned out. Bothers me not knowing. Jim Caviezel movie that came out, “Sound of Freedom” has an eerie ring to it.
Also, here in the U.S., it is interesting how a Pfizer plant got decimated by a tornado a few days ago and damaged houses, etc. before breaking up? Sterile injectable product for U.S. hospitals were lost.
Yes, think my B & M session has run its’ course (ranting).
Again … I’ll be back and pop in once in a while.
Mbken
you know best what works for you, long may it continue.
As most here have said, you're a gent... can't disagree with anyone there lol
You're very lucky to live in a society you trust to care.
after listening to our evening news yesterday, we Irish are disgraced yet again but this time round we can't blame the Catholic church like before, this time its on the government along with our own people, or the lack of.
Just when I thought yesterdays news could not get any worse......
it happened when it broke, we lost one of our own
you know best what works for you, long may it continue.
As most here have said, you're a gent... can't disagree with anyone there lol
You're very lucky to live in a society you trust to care.
after listening to our evening news yesterday, we Irish are disgraced yet again but this time round we can't blame the Catholic church like before, this time its on the government along with our own people, or the lack of.
Just when I thought yesterdays news could not get any worse......
it happened when it broke, we lost one of our own
I understand she lost her son to suicide not long ago. The pain in her heart and soul must have been unbearable. I hope she has peace now and she will be missed.
you know best what works for you, long may it continue.
As most here have said, you're a gent... can't disagree with anyone there lol
You're very lucky to live in a society you trust to care.
after listening to our evening news yesterday, we Irish are disgraced yet again but this time round we can't blame the Catholic church like before, this time its on the government along with our own people, or the lack of.
Just when I thought yesterdays news could not get any worse......
it happened when it broke, we lost one of our own
Time now to put this blog to bed but before I do.....
I just want to say I find the media very hypocritical right now when it was them that shadowed her truth by focusing more on her mental issues instead.
I liked Sinead even when she was hard to keep up with sometimes ...
but one would only need to look past, to see her truth within.
We all know her view on the catholic church and why she exposed them...
Her final battle was with lifting the lid on the lack of care and the negligence regarding mental illness in Ireland. Sinead always claimed her son was discharged from care whilst being suicidal, but because she was portrayed as crazy, who really listened whilst she continued to protest.
Wednesday a none national, posing as a physiatrist was sentenced for sexually assaulting many of his vulnerable patients.
Wednesday very disturbing reports were aired regarding CAMHS/TUSLA.
Wednesday Sinead died without knowing she had won her final battle, or perhaps she did .. what's victory without closure.
From darkness into light....
May Sinead be resting in peace
Irelands loss
G'night.