Depression & mental illness
I see we have yet another blog about the above....and truthfully we've heard it all before on previous blogs.
Not that I disagree with any such topics as some are therapeutic for many....
I sympathise with anyone who must live with such conditions
if and when genuine.
But when is anyone ever going to have the balls to blog about the other side of the matter that no-one ever really wants to discuss.
If and when someone ever does, by all means give me a shout.
Comments (71)
What do you mean by "the other side of the matter"?
I've been on CS since 2005 and used to write a lot about me having bipolar disorder in the forums. I no longer discuss it unless a blog interests me, or if someone asks. I am an open book on the topic and don't mind talking about it, good or bad.
What do you mean by "the other side of the matter"?
I've been on CS since 2005 and used to write a lot about me having bipolar disorder in the forums. I no longer discuss it unless a blog interests me, or if someone asks. I am an open book on the topic and don't mind talking about it, good or bad.
Good for you mb for having shared your mental health journey, this opens up discussions and helps to combat stigma around mental health issues which many of us experience either personally, through lived experience with a loved one or both
Well, can I contribute by this supposed quote by Jesus from Nasareth then:
"every day has enough with it's own struggle".
That that "man" would say something so human is mindblowing to me.
Actually kinda heartwarming.
Cheers, hope that helped some.
Good for you mb for having shared your mental health journey, this opens up discussions and helps to combat stigma around mental health issues which many of us experience either personally, through lived experience with a loved one or both
I used to be ashamed of it but I got over that
What do you mean by "the other side of the matter"?
I've been on CS since 2005 and used to write a lot about me having bipolar disorder in the forums. I no longer discuss it unless a blog interests me, or if someone asks. I am an open book on the topic and don't mind talking about it, good or bad.
but I don't reckon this blog/discussion is going to go in the way I had hoped, so it no longer matters talking about the other side no-one wants to hear let alone see.
In other words, I'm dropping that matter which has no reflection on you
Two questions though, if it's alright to ask?
but I don't reckon this blog/discussion is going to go in the way I had hoped, so it no longer matters talking about the other side no-one wants to hear let alone see.
In other words, I'm dropping that matter which has no reflection on you
Two questions though, if it's alright to ask?
Ask away....
A few months ago here in Ireland a man was sentenced 40yrs for shooting a cop 11 times.
A few weeks ago a woman was sentenced 8yrs for stabbing a random man.
Though both were on meds for bipolar, and inline for looking for more help/ assistance from a society, rehab maybe which were slow to act.. you as a suffer how do you view the sentencing of both?
I thought it was unjust that both were not treated the same, one far more than the other.
how did your shame effect you if it did?
if too personal, its alright... no need to answer
This is a complex topic and I think the more we talk about it, the more insight we will gain and hopefully this will be valuable in terms of not only the vulnerable people in our community but ourselves and the loved ones we support.
We need to lift the lid on mental illness and make it a common course of discussion, it's nothing to be afraid of and education is key
But speaking of neighbours
each of them on are side of me, are mental or at least act it....
And there is only a certain amount a sane person can take
This is a complex topic and I think the more we talk about it, the more insight we will gain and hopefully this will be valuable in terms of not only the vulnerable people in our community but ourselves and the loved ones we support.
We need to lift the lid on mental illness and make it a common course of discussion, it's nothing to be afraid of and education is key
the other side of the matter is also having compassion & appreciation for those who try their best to help and support them we love and need it... much can be done for those people too after all helping them to cope strengthens them to face what can sometimes be difficult times.
Not long ago I watched a young woman cry fearful she had gone beyond breaking point.
the Rest bite that used to leave her young son in who is autistic, has now closed.
when drained we are no use to anyone let alone ourselves.
the other side of the matter is also having compassion & appreciation for those who try their best to help and support them we love and need it... much can be done for those people too after all helping them to cope strengthens them to face what can sometimes be difficult times.
Not long ago I watched a young woman cry fearful she had gone beyond breaking point.
the Rest bite that used to leave her young son in who is autistic, has now closed.
when drained we are no use to anyone let alone ourselves.
I could talk for days about this as I have travelled alongside my son who was diagnosed with schizophrenia at the age of 23 (he's now 43), advocated for him, collaborated with mental health services, countless phone calls, emails, tribunals etc. but nothing has changed in terms of his support or mine.
My son shares my home and every day is difficult, in terms of separating the person from the illness in addition to medication that is often adjusted without notice.
I love him dearly and will continue to support him as long as I remain on this mortal coil, but can I just say that grief sits alongside this as this is not the life that we envisaged for our children of course
I have also worked in this field for the past several years so it's a topic dear to my heart, thanks again for creating this blog and opening up discussion about mental health
A few months ago here in Ireland a man was sentenced 40yrs for shooting a cop 11 times.
A few weeks ago a woman was sentenced 8yrs for stabbing a random man.
Though both were on meds for bipolar, and inline for looking for more help/ assistance from a society, rehab maybe which were slow to act.. you as a suffer how do you view the sentencing of both?
I thought it was unjust that both were not treated the same, one far more than the other.
how did your shame effect you if it did?
if too personal, its alright... no need to answer
I'm of the mind that there is no excuse for any crime because of mental illness unless the guilty perpetrator is extremely ill. They should be held in an institution instead of prison for the same amount of time of the sentence.
Weather someone is on or off meds makes no difference either. Bipolar is a condition not an excuse. I was embarrassed about my condition because of stereotypes and negative cultural views. But then I realized that I am a human being and no different from anyone else. I am on medication because I want to live a good life. I am also on medication for type II diabetes for the same reason.
Any other questions you have I will be glad to answer.
But speaking of neighbours
each of them on are side of me, are mental or at least act it....
And there is only a certain amount a sane person can take
You have the right to live in peace weather someone is bipolar or not.
I've been on CS since 2005 and used to write a lot about me having bipolar disorder in the forums. I no longer discuss it unless a blog interests me, or if someone asks. I am an open book on the topic and don't mind talking about it, good or bad.
what a gentleman you are. i think you're the most gentleman on cs blog
I've been on CS since 2005 and used to write a lot about me having bipolar disorder in the forums. I no longer discuss it unless a blog interests me, or if someone asks. I am an open book on the topic and don't mind talking about it, good or bad.
what a gentleman you are. i think you're the most gentleman on cs blog
I could talk for days about this as I have travelled alongside my son who was diagnosed with schizophrenia at the age of 23 (he's now 43), advocated for him, collaborated with mental health services, countless phone calls, emails, tribunals etc. but nothing has changed in terms of his support or mine.
My son shares my home and every day is difficult, in terms of separating the person from the illness in addition to medication that is often adjusted without notice.
I love him dearly and will continue to support him as long as I remain on this mortal coil, but can I just say that grief sits alongside this as this is not the life that we envisaged for our children of course
I have also worked in this field for the past several years so it's a topic dear to my heart, thanks again for creating this blog and opening up discussion about mental health
My country has failed so many in the mental health area...
It is at the core of the mass shootings and homelessness...
But, unfortunately both sides would rather point the finger at the other side..instead of trying to address one of the biggest problems in society.
I could talk for days about this as I have travelled alongside my son who was diagnosed with schizophrenia at the age of 23 (he's now 43), advocated for him, collaborated with mental health services, countless phone calls, emails, tribunals etc. but nothing has changed in terms of his support or mine.
My son shares my home and every day is difficult, in terms of separating the person from the illness in addition to medication that is often adjusted without notice.
I love him dearly and will continue to support him as long as I remain on this mortal coil, but can I just say that grief sits alongside this as this is not the life that we envisaged for our children of course
I have also worked in this field for the past several years so it's a topic dear to my heart, thanks again for creating this blog and opening up discussion about mental health
because sadly not every parent has the same strength to cope the way most parents do, which is yet another side of mental illness people don't talk about.
During Covid we all watched the effects cabin fever were having on everyone......
In my books, no-one had it more bad, stressful or heart breaking then them trying to cope with and manage loved ones suffering with mental problems.
Since Covid not all facilities have reopened and the crisis goes un-noticed, not dealt with ...
our government is too busy keeping face, seen to help assistant outsiders yet do nothing to care for their own.
In an earlier comment I mentioned a woman who pulled on my heart strings after seeing her reactions when the reporter asked " how far does she feel she is pushed to her limits"...
what's even more sad Julie Ann has her own disabilities to be dealing with, as well.
After the crisis been highlighted on the news....
I thought more would of come about the whole sorry sad situation some find themselves in.
but unfortunately, I haven't heard a word since.
I'm of the mind that there is no excuse for any crime because of mental illness unless the guilty perpetrator is extremely ill. They should be held in an institution instead of prison for the same amount of time of the sentence.
Weather someone is on or off meds makes no difference either. Bipolar is a condition not an excuse. I was embarrassed about my condition because of stereotypes and negative cultural views. But then I realized that I am a human being and no different from anyone else. I am on medication because I want to live a good life. I am also on medication for type II diabetes for the same reason.
Any other questions you have I will be glad to answer.
but your ordinary everyday Joe soaps is only eight.
In other words, Irish law is loose.
At the time of the 40yr sentence I was going to blog and rant my disgust especially with the term the judge used after sentencing " that's what you get for coming off your meds"
I was shocked still am no-one came out protesting, more so them who are meant to take care of the mentally ill and their rights.
Speaking of the mentally ill....
nowhere was it mentioned in the media, the trial, the cop also suffered with mental problems ...
nowhere either was the questioned asked what was an off duty cop doing with a gun on him in the first place, or more to the point...depending what type of mental issue he had, was he mentally stable enough to be trusted with a gun.. if not, then bending rules is what got him killed ...its Irelands shame to use a vulnerable person as their scapegoat
Eh excuse the rant if I'm raving ....
Now you know why I decided against blogging about it at the time
But somethings really do get my back up
but your ordinary everyday Joe soaps is only eight.
In other words, Irish law is loose.
At the time of the 40yr sentence I was going to blog and rant my disgust especially with the term the judge used after sentencing " that's what you get for coming off your meds"
I was shocked still am no-one came out protesting, more so them who are meant to take care of the mentally ill and their rights.
Speaking of the mentally ill....
nowhere was it mentioned in the media, the trial, the cop also suffered with mental problems ...
nowhere either was the questioned asked what was an off duty cop doing with a gun on him in the first place, or more to the point...depending what type of mental issue he had, was he mentally stable enough to be trusted with a gun.. if not, then bending rules is what got him killed ...its Irelands shame to use a vulnerable person as their scapegoat
Eh excuse the rant if I'm raving ....
Now you know why I decided against blogging about it at the time
But somethings really do get my back up
The judge should lose his job.
A few months ago here in Ireland a man was sentenced 40yrs for shooting a cop 11 times.
A few weeks ago a woman was sentenced 8yrs for stabbing a random man.
Though both were on meds for bipolar, and inline for looking for more help/ assistance from a society, rehab maybe which were slow to act.. you as a suffer how do you view the sentencing of both?
I thought it was unjust that both were not treated the same, one far more than the other.
how did your shame effect you if it did?
if too personal, its alright... no need to answer
What is your source fro that?
A few months ago here in Ireland a man was sentenced 40yrs for shooting a cop 11 times.
A few weeks ago a woman was sentenced 8yrs for stabbing a random man.
Though both were on meds for bipolar, and inline for looking for more help/ assistance from a society, rehab maybe which were slow to act.. you as a suffer how do you view the sentencing of both?
I thought it was unjust that both were not treated the same, one far more than the other.
how did your shame effect you if it did?
if too personal, its alright... no need to answer
The judge should lose his job.
Is there a reason why bipolar suffers come off their meds?
there seems to be so many these days so there must be a reason, side effects or whatever, I don't know... but it would be interesting to know why the meds work perfectly for some but unfortunately not for all.
Assuming you know that is?
When my son was in his early 20's he suffered server anxiety attacks, he was put on medication which seemed to of brought his condition under control until after an X amount of time when he decided the side effects weren't worth it. he quit them came straight off them which was dangerous but that's what he done, got his head in certain books which lead him to learn how to control his condition himself, thankfully he hasn't looked back since... well' almost that is.
thanks for that input even if its confused me a little....
Don't know who is the cop you are referring to that kicked the shit out of his girlfriend, but there are good and bad in them and they too should be exposed just as quickly as some are awarded a medal.
What is your source fro that?
The killing of Colm Horkan should never of happened
likewise a 40yr jail sentence of a man with bipolar.
Call me stupid but I thought a gun only had six bullets
thanks for that input even if its confused me a little....
Don't know who is the cop you are referring to that kicked the shit out of his girlfriend, but there are good and bad in them and they too should be exposed just as quickly as some are awarded a medal.
The cop who beat the shit out of his girlfriend is nothing to do with the case you mentioned.
It was in the 80s he beat her. They eventually broke up I think unless she was foolish enough to be the one who married him.
He was subsequently attacked by an armed man and developed PTSD so he said and got big compo. My point was he was brave enough to beat her but not much good against a man.
Do you have a source for your claim the Garda Silver shot had mental problems and this was hidden from court/media?
Depends what gun. A revolver has 6.
Sorry but you need more than knowing people who know people. I am not sure legally if Colm Horkan's mental state should have been made known.
Depends what gun. A revolver has 6.
Sorry but you need more than knowing people who know people. I am not sure legally if Colm Horkan's mental state should have been made known.
The cop who beat the shit out of his girlfriend is nothing to do with the case you mentioned.
It was in the 80s he beat her. They eventually broke up I think unless she was foolish enough to be the one who married him.
He was subsequently attacked by an armed man and developed PTSD so he said and got big compo. My point was he was brave enough to beat her but not much good against a man.
Do you have a source for your claim the Garda Silver shot had mental problems and this was hidden from court/media?
I take it then, like me, you have no knowledge of guns and bullets either?
I have the same source the courts had when they said the killing was personal and NOT related to mental issues.
Why do you want to know, would it make a difference to the sentencing of Stephen Silver?
actually that's a stupid question.... it would be MASSIVE, however would they handle it, or cover it up in other words.
so assuming the gun had 12 rounds, as in bullets?
where did the other one go.
so assuming the gun had 12 rounds, as in bullets?
where did the other one go.
so thanks for taking the trouble
I take it then, like me, you have no knowledge of guns and bullets either?
I have the same source the courts had when they said the killing was personal and NOT related to mental issues.
Why do you want to know, would it make a difference to the sentencing of Stephen Silver?
actually that's a stupid question.... it would be MASSIVE, however would they handle it, or cover it up in other words.
Why do you want to know, would it make a difference to the sentencing of Stephen Silver?
actually that's a stupid question.... it would be MASSIVE, however would they handle it, or cover it up in other words."
The courts may have been referring to the fact they felt it was not related to Silver's mental illness. He was on trial. I do not know legally if Horkan's state would have been relevant.
I cannot see journalists don't know and i cannot see all of them covering it up if it was relevant to the case.
Why I want to know is I might look into it or ask someone to. You can pm me any more you know if you want.
As to making a difference I'm sure Silver's defence know and if it it relevant will appeal. I would say they may appeal anyway.
There are rules around court and what evidence is allowed. It does not necessarily mean the judge is corrupt
but I don't reckon this blog/discussion is going to go in the way I had hoped, so it no longer matters talking about the other side no-one wants to hear let alone see.
In other words, I'm dropping that matter which has no reflection on you
Two questions though, if it's alright to ask?