immigration
I will probably be flagged on this but a bold and sincere ideas guys...I know you'll have fun, let us look at the world on this?JOHN LENNON, IMAGINE, an all too familiar for correctness on this world's take on injustice...do you think he would have radically changed his words or lyrics by now? To suit what is truly happening in the world relative to handling of immigration laws?
Particularly in the US?
FACTS:1. ABOUT 12 million illegal aliens (Newsweek, Oct. 2012) not so sure on the date, although I have a copy, at home)
2. What these people's condition on how they come here, and more so what they experience. (stories, from South of the border, Canada, even how Asians and all the areas of origins)
QUESTION:1. WOULD YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF A CANDIDATE? IF SO AS TO HOW MUCH EXTENT WOULD YOU IMPOSE ON YOURSELF, MONETARILY AND PHYSICALLY, CONSIDERING THE ACUTENESS OF THE NATURE OF THIS ACT?
QUESTION: 2. SHOULD WE ABOLISH BORDERS AND STICK WITH JOHN LENNON"S MESSAGE?
Thank you guys, please answer at your own risk, and I hope we are not under the red radar of this section as I am sure, I don't want us to jeopardize our positions, albeit freedom of expression is one inherent part of our constitution.(USA). This is one of the biggest concern in my country right now, next to Obamacare...and war in Afghanistan...(longest running war in history, since 1977)
WHAT CAN WE DO TO IMPROVE THE SITUATION? THIS IS THE FINAL QUESTION.
Thanks,
PS If I am off line and course, please advise me, I will stand corrected..
Sundayrose
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Many poor , corrupt, countries are such because they were colonised by (mainly) Europeans. Their traditional ways of governance, their natural borders etc., were torn down and reconstructed to suit the colonists. See the straight borders in a map of Africa, if in doubt.
After tearing apart their social structure, ridding them of their way of governance, raping their country of its natural resources, and of course killing many along the way, the colonist upped and left, leaving a fake country usually ungovernable, with nobody with the skills to govern having being subjugated for so long. Civil war breaks out, usually between groups that were artificially put together/ set against each other to suit the colonists. Eg. Think Tutsis and Hutus in Rwanda.
Civil war, poverty, lack of access to food and education. These are all things that make people desperate to leave their countries and seek a better life for themselves and their children.
And remember, the colonisation still continues, albeit not so overtly, Now it is economic colonisation. People starving whilst paying off a killing national debt to western countries. Western countries and big companies benefit from others misery. Think guns and munition companies..big industry - requires conflict to survive,
People will not leave their own countries, and extended family, and community, easily. They are usually forced to by factors outside of their control.
We cannot look forward without looking at the past and present.
I am not too sure of that personally
I don't think China has Africa's best interests at heart. It is just another example of economic colonisation.
It'd be like a Chinese consortium coming into cash-6broke Ireland offering to buy our national forests. They would throw money at the government, which needs it short term to pay off crippling nationa debts. But long-term? We would have lost ownership of a priceless natural resource forever.
Of course that could never happen here, as our government is not in any wy corruptable, and always thinks long-term for the benefit of its citizens....
Yeah right!
And yes I am true PINAY from Laoag. But I went to college in Baguio and taught there. Came to America 35 years ago and studied a little bit in England for my Masters degree. I don't know if you meant here at the CS, if is, I have been for about 2 years but very new on the blog.
Thanks.. and keep working and I am proud of your accomplishment in the improvement of good working conditions..Good for you.
Regards to your family.
SR
From what I understand, they are rebuilding the roads, investing in new constructions and trading for resources (oil, mining rights) in Africa.
They are not buying the forests in the EU, but buying property and some money making enterprises.
I am sure they are not doing it through the kindness of their heart, but Africa is in dire need of cash and employment for the population.
Over here, they buy in the wine making region and keep some of that industry going as to supply a population of 1.2 billion.
This is an example. Before, it was the Japanese and before that it was the US. Tomorrow?
Without export, the economic bubble of the EU would burst.
You can only tax the few so far before the pockets are empty.
The only two viable economies in the EU are the UK and Germany.
China doesn't colonize, to them it's a business proposition. You may call it economic colonization, but they are the late comers in this game.
Have a glass of Bordeaux while some is left.
And remember, the colonisation still continues, albeit not so overtly, Now it is economic colonisation. People starving whilst paying off a killing national debt to western countries. Western countries and big companies benefit from others misery. Think guns and munition companies..big industry - requires conflict to survive,
Mollybaby, yes you are very right in the cases of those who are desperately fleeing their countries for lack of protection, freedom, etc. etc. And that is why we have ASSYLUM cases to handle this kind of cases. Question is, just how long it takes for all of these to be handled. And maybe just like what Cat said, we are just plain Idealist and nothing really can be done to make it better?
Thanks.
SR
Thanks so much. Boy I didn't know even in your country has all these Illegal problems. But yes it does pose a problem on all the effects of this concern.
s lor]"ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee". There is no us and them as we are in reality all one.ts it brings. like your last lines..[/co
I will get back with you. Thanks.
SR
I mean, if you going around continents, interfering, causing wars, and taking there resources and making them poor etc, and enriching yourselves.
then what is it, if they come along for survival.
Maybe the planet should be one, people free to come and go wherever and not have a this is my country, I am this etc, but one name for the whole continent, just like one big country.
Things will probably sort itself out then, no more wars etc over territory, dictatorship, conflicts between countries, more entrepeneurship development etc.
Thank you so much for your strong input and yes I like your idea of getting ten years before the citizenship. In the states it is much longer than that.
Now when I was in Switzerland, did you know that the rich families of the Muslim world had been buying the prime land and properties there? One of my classmate family was a SHIEK and told me the whole story. After that, the Suisse government imposed a moratorium and can't buy unless you are a 50 generations, original or something like that.
I like your questions.
Thanks again.
Anyways, Delatude, your lecture is highly appreciated and make a lot of sense, but still it doesn't open any door towards the needed structure we have to create to better this situation.
SR
Thanks,
Maybe the planet should be one, people free to come and go wherever and not have a this is my country, I am this etc, but one name for the whole continent, just like one big country.
Things will probably sort itself out then, no more wars etc over territory, dictatorship, conflicts between countries, more entrepreneurship development etc
I agree with you on that one.
SR
THANK YOU ALL,
sundayrose