Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you? ( Archived) (852)

Nov 27, 2009 6:46 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
brandycuba
brandycubabrandycubacuba, Missouri USA1 Threads 29 Posts
MikeHD: "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; {they are} gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them." Romans 1:16-32



Thanks that helps alot.
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Nov 28, 2009 5:00 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
In response to: I have found that there are very few people who believe in God or Jesus on this site, can someone tell me what their reasoning is? Why don't you believe in God, Jesus?


The believe in gods of any religion is something parents (or other people) do instil in you. It is not a natural reaction coming from your own mind.

If parents do not talk about a god when you're a child, you will not feel the need to create one. You will never notice any action taken by a god, never see any proof of an existing god.
The believe and the religions are only manipulation of your brain.

I've been taught good behaviours to live with others and to be responsible for my actions. No promisses of rewarding heaven or threats of hell. My conscience is my only judge.

Moreover, when I see what is happening in the world, when my friends suffer badly, I cannot understand how some people still can believe in a good, loving and caring god.
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Nov 28, 2009 5:05 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
solsticemoon
solsticemoonsolsticemoonjavea, Valencia Spain64 Threads 4,504 Posts
gabrielle95: The believe in gods of any religion is something parents (or other people) do instil in you. It is not a natural reaction coming from your own mind.

If parents do not talk about a god when you're a child, you will not feel the need to create one. You will never notice any action taken by a god, never see any proof of an existing god.
The believe and the religions are only manipulation of your brain.

I've been taught good behaviours to live with others and to be responsible for my actions. No promisses of rewarding heaven or threats of hell. My conscience is my only judge.

Moreover, when I see what is happening in the world, when my friends suffer badly, I cannot understand how some people still can believe in a good, loving and caring god.


Oh..sensible lady!
My mother was beaten ( I'll say that rather than brought ) up roman catholic..she told us all but left it to us to decide...any religion that has it's basis in fear is not something I want any part in!
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Nov 28, 2009 5:08 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
seveneyes
seveneyesseveneyesaztec, New Mexico USA1 Threads 578 Posts
im sorry solstice moon, but you are a serious hottie.....You make me purrrr!
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Nov 28, 2009 5:11 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
solsticemoon
solsticemoonsolsticemoonjavea, Valencia Spain64 Threads 4,504 Posts
seveneyes: im sorry solstice moon, but you are a serious hottie.....You make me purrrr!


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing aint that against ur religion??laugh lips
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Nov 28, 2009 5:14 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
seveneyes
seveneyesseveneyesaztec, New Mexico USA1 Threads 578 Posts
solsticemoon: aint that against ur religion??


I am not religious, and if I were, purring is allowed....
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Nov 28, 2009 5:16 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
luxmariner
luxmarinerluxmarinerNeideranven, Luxembourg Luxembourg1 Posts
Because, perhaps we are rational and understand that it is ridiculous. I expect those that believe in God or Jesus also don't believe in Baal or Shiva. Well, we simply believe in one less God than you do. Simple.
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Nov 28, 2009 5:17 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
kiwi69
kiwi69kiwi69Auckland, New Zealand4 Threads 262 Posts
I definitely believe in God/higher power call it what you will but I don't believe in any one particular religion, religion is man made.

I find some religions in essence to be quite arrogant and holier than thou and one one hand claim to be forgiving, peaceful, loving etc then on the other hand the same religion says if you don't believe in their 'special right' way of thinking then you are condemned to hell- is that conditional or what.

I like bits and pieces of different religions esp Buddhism but unfortunately I'm an avid hunter and fisherman, go figure

Peace and mung beans dancing
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Nov 28, 2009 5:22 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
seveneyes
seveneyesseveneyesaztec, New Mexico USA1 Threads 578 Posts
solsticemoon: I've only got a small one..but where d'ya need it planting!


shugar, dont tempt me...hehe lips
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Nov 28, 2009 5:24 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
seveneyes
seveneyesseveneyesaztec, New Mexico USA1 Threads 578 Posts
kiwi69: I definitely believe in God/higher power call it what you will but I don't believe in any one particular religion, religion is man made.

I find some religions in essence to be quite arrogant and holier than thou and one one hand claim to be forgiving, peaceful, loving etc then on the other hand the same religion says if you don't believe in their 'special right' way of thinking then you are condemned to hell- is that conditional or what.

I like bits and pieces of different religions esp Buddhism but unfortunately I'm an avid hunter and fisherman, go figure

Peace and mung beans


how very average of you....Keep seeking. Why did you give up on spiritual knowledge and decide to keep the views of a 10 year old? Hmm, your loss
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Nov 28, 2009 5:44 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
kiwi69
kiwi69kiwi69Auckland, New Zealand4 Threads 262 Posts
Believe me when I say that your talking to the wrong person if you want to talk psycology, I would make you look foolish, as I've previously stated, read what I've written, I have a very sound understanding of my beliefs system do you, hows your own personal self awareness?.

Keep searching confused
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Nov 28, 2009 5:49 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
seveneyes: how very average of you....Keep seeking. Why did you give up on spiritual knowledge and decide to keep the views of a 10 year old? Hmm, your loss



Stir it up!
Too sad,everytime someone get's the better of you,you start plying them with Curses and Obscenities.
Yep,you're a true ""Christian"",so narrowminded,you could look down a Drinking Straw simultaneously with both Eyes!thumbs down thumbs down thumbs down
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Nov 28, 2009 5:50 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
xxfrecklesxx
xxfrecklesxxxxfrecklesxxBanyeres de Mariola, Valencia Spain23 Threads 1 Polls 1,568 Posts
No I dont believe in God...

why.....because when I see children suffering wether its through starvation, thirst, or illness, cancer etc......I cant beleive if there was a god he would allow them to suffer like this...
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Nov 28, 2009 5:50 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
Nov 28, 2009 6:06 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
seveneyes
seveneyesseveneyesaztec, New Mexico USA1 Threads 578 Posts
Conrad73: http://veggievampire.net/files/images/wooden%20spoon.preview.jpg
Stir it up!
Too sad,everytime someone get's the better of you,you start plying them with Curses and Obscenities.
Yep,you're a true ""Christian"",so narrowminded,you could look down a Drinking Straw simultaneously with both Eyes!


lol, glad to fufill your pessimistic fantasy. Too bad we are all human and multi faceted or your viewpoint might have some merit...
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Nov 28, 2009 6:07 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
seveneyes: lol, glad to fufill your pessimistic fantasy. Too bad we are all human and multi faceted or your viewpoint might have some merit...
You mean you could use all Seven to do the Task?wow
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Nov 28, 2009 6:09 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
seveneyes
seveneyesseveneyesaztec, New Mexico USA1 Threads 578 Posts
xxfrecklesxx: No I dont believe in God...

why.....because when I see children suffering wether its through starvation, thirst, or illness, cancer etc......I cant beleive if there was a god he would allow them to suffer like this...


I felt the same way, but the gift of freedom of choice makes these things inevitable. We could either be like puppets, or we could be actual free thinking beings in the universe. God thought it more substantial to have freedom even though that meant suffering.

Ask yourself; is freedom really worth it? I say yes, and even though suffering is not fun, it is neccesarry in order to have a real existance.
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Nov 28, 2009 6:10 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
seveneyes: I felt the same way, but the gift of freedom of choice makes these things inevitable. We could either be like puppets, or we could be actual free thinking beings in the universe. God thought it more substantial to have freedom even though that meant suffering.

Ask yourself; is freedom really worth it? I say yes, and even though suffering is not fun, it is neccesarry in order to have a real existance.
Listen to yourself!barf barf barf barf barf barf barf
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Nov 28, 2009 6:11 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
seveneyes
seveneyesseveneyesaztec, New Mexico USA1 Threads 578 Posts
Conrad73: You mean you could use all Seven to do the Task?


Im still waiting to see another facet of you conrad. Whats the hold up? Why the same M.O. all the time?
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Nov 28, 2009 6:15 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
seveneyes
seveneyesseveneyesaztec, New Mexico USA1 Threads 578 Posts
Freedom of choice actually does mean that the perameters of our entire existance hold to certain laws. Especially once a person chooses to do evil. Disease and death go hand in hand with this freedom.
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