Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you? ( Archived) (852)

Nov 30, 2009 12:18 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
bay163
bay163bay163san mateo, California USA8 Threads 4 Polls 991 Posts
trish123: I would be if you lot had your way


I will send ice water, thats how much I care. angel
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Nov 30, 2009 12:31 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
bohdiprana
bohdipranabohdipranaLondon, Ontario Canada32 Threads 1,493 Posts
bay163: LOOK BEHIND YOU buaaaaaaaaahaaaa


Still a non answer. I don't blame you, even high level religionists can't answer the question, probably because the only place it can exist is in the mind and if they told you that it would blow the whole hell and damnation affect (that keeps followers in step), out of the water. Followers would run for miles from their totally unveiled BS. happy place
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Nov 30, 2009 12:37 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
bay163: I will not tolerate this atheist bashing, they are trying their best, remember they only use 10% of their brain on a good day.
You really don’t want to go down that route given that theism is statically negatively correlated with intelligence professor
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Nov 30, 2009 7:03 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
seveneyes
seveneyesseveneyesaztec, New Mexico USA1 Threads 578 Posts
bohdiprana: simple ...energy is neither right nor wrong and therefore needs no salvation from the illusionary effects of religious dogma and or doctrine.

The sun is energy, (eternal energy to use your words) I doubt it is hell; but its pretty darned hot there. Is the sun wrong? Is the sun right? what sort of salvation would it need? None. The truth of the universe supersedes any religious dogma aimed at controlling what you choose to do.


Electricity has not right or wrong, but intellegent beings do. We will not just become like electricity or something static. We are intellegent and we will continue to be intellegent in our afterlife. Right and wrong is a real thing, thank God.
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Nov 30, 2009 7:07 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
seveneyes
seveneyesseveneyesaztec, New Mexico USA1 Threads 578 Posts
RedLyonyss: So, to open a whole NEW kettle of worms...
Since when are god and Jesus mutual and which god are we refuring to?
If someone believes in a Christian god but Not Jesus is it the same as not believing At all are you still damned?

Please do not bombast me I am just curious


Jesus said that no one comes to the father except through me. If you love the father you would love me. If you reject the son, you also reject the one who sent him.

Jesus said. All that the father has is mine, and also that I and the father are one.
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Nov 30, 2009 7:17 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
bohdiprana
bohdipranabohdipranaLondon, Ontario Canada32 Threads 1,493 Posts
seveneyes: Electricity has not right or wrong, but intellegent beings do. We will not just become like electricity or something static. We are intellegent and we will continue to be intellegent in our afterlife. Right and wrong is a real thing, thank God.


electricity is protons and electrons - aka. positive/negative chummmmmmmp .. intelligence as long as you're going to try that theory.

In fact you will find positive/negative exchange in all human relationships. We exchange energy on this basis constantly...just like electricity.

Grade school science.



laugh try again
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Nov 30, 2009 10:37 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
seveneyes
seveneyesseveneyesaztec, New Mexico USA1 Threads 578 Posts
bohdiprana: electricity is protons and electrons - aka. positive/negative chummmmmmmp .. intelligence as long as you're going to try that theory.

In fact you will find positive/negative exchange in all human relationships. We exchange energy on this basis constantly...just like electricity.

Grade school science.
try again


huh? Try Again? Wth are you talking about? In the afterlife we will have conscienceness. We will have intellect, we will have emotions. We will be spiritual beings and not just energy where there is no right or wrong. The kingdom of heave is a place of perfection where there is not wrong or evil, but the fact remains that we will not just turn to energy when we pass on just becuase you theorize it.
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Nov 30, 2009 10:39 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
seveneyes
seveneyesseveneyesaztec, New Mexico USA1 Threads 578 Posts
btw I did NOT say or infer that you think that we will turn into electricity. You said energy and my analogy used electricity because it is a type of energy. My name is not CHHHUUUUMMMMPPP.
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Dec 1, 2009 4:41 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
integrity82: Truth is sprout in discussion. but it looks like folks are debating just to state they are right, and not to find the truth.

i made a conclusion, this is the thread where people don't even 'listen' to each other, they don't even try to understand what someone is saying, and some of them even hurry to insult (!) just because something is beyond their narrow comprehension


Yes I would agree, after an attempt to explain why you don't believe in God or Jesus, all you get in response is why others believe in there delusions. Complete waist of time answering or sharing your view when all that follows is pages and pages of augment supporting the notion of the existence of the so called god or expectations on interpretations on what a guy named Jesus meant or delusions the bible does or does not contain.
Limited by our dualistic minds being nothing more than moving energy, it is quite sad to note most folks posting in this and similar threads, are reacting exactly as you say.
Don’t know why the question was asked in the first place as lady that posted it, appears to belongs to the same concretion that George W did…I’m pretty certain he was full of crap, so please know at least I agree with your prognoses.
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Dec 1, 2009 11:06 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
bohdiprana: You are god.



I am?



Now I know why everything is so screwed up! doh
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Dec 1, 2009 11:14 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
bohdiprana
bohdipranabohdipranaLondon, Ontario Canada32 Threads 1,493 Posts
seveneyes: huh? Try Again? Wth are you talking about? In the afterlife we will have conscienceness. We will have intellect, we will have emotions. We will be spiritual beings and not just energy where there is no right or wrong. The kingdom of heave is a place of perfection where there is not wrong or evil, but the fact remains that we will not just turn to energy when we pass on just becuase you theorize it.


there is no wrong nor is there a right, there is only perception in duality. What may think is right, another will see as wrong. This is a fools game in perception. And more importantly doesn't prove any almighty deity.


BTW it isn't consciences, its consciousness. Big Difference.

and .. I just happen to right. laugh
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Dec 1, 2009 11:15 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
bohdiprana
bohdipranabohdipranaLondon, Ontario Canada32 Threads 1,493 Posts
MikeHD: I am?
Now I know why everything is so screwed up!


indeed. blues but you have the power to fix it , just as you had the power to screw it up. It is merely a matter of direction. wine
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Dec 1, 2009 11:33 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
Jona1
Jona1Jona1Milan, Lombardy Italy1 Posts
brandycuba: I have found that there are very few people who believe in God or Jesus on this site, can someone tell me what their reasoning is? Why don't you believe in God, Jesus?




I believe and i live by Him.I didn't hide it from the beggining of my registration (yesterday :)) Jesus is my life ..here or anywherelse. I don't know about the others...everyone has his or her personal walk of faith or not faith.
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Dec 1, 2009 11:38 AM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
Hillary28
Hillary28Hillary28Brisbane, Queensland Australia1 Posts
In response to: I have found that there are very few people who believe in God or Jesus on this site, can someone tell me what their reasoning is? Why don't you believe in God, Jesus?


Because the Bible was used to control the masses. I would never follow a monotheistic religion. Nor would I follow a religion that oppresses and excludes women.
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Dec 1, 2009 12:26 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
bohdiprana
bohdipranabohdipranaLondon, Ontario Canada32 Threads 1,493 Posts
seveneyes: Electricity has not right or wrong, but intellegent beings do. We will not just become like electricity or something static. We are intellegent and we will continue to be intellegent in our afterlife. Right and wrong is a real thing, thank God.


If as you say (and I agree) there is this afterlife,(Infinity is eternal) and this eternity for all, then there is no such thing as right and wrong.

When nothing ever dies, even murder is not wrong, because you cannot kill that which is eternal, infinite. Hence there is no murder.

The BS laws you follow are not of any god representing infinity, let alone eternity, when its laws create falseness in their enactment. The bible is and was always intended to divert you from the power that you are. God. We are one.
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Dec 1, 2009 4:42 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
seveneyes
seveneyesseveneyesaztec, New Mexico USA1 Threads 578 Posts
Hillary28: Because the Bible was used to control the masses. I would never follow a monotheistic religion. Nor would I follow a religion that oppresses and excludes women.



You know, there are many many women who are very educated who percieve chritianity very differently than you.
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Dec 1, 2009 4:46 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
seveneyes: huh? Try Again? Wth are you talking about? In the afterlife we will have conscienceness. We will have intellect, we will have emotions. We will be spiritual beings and not just energy where there is no right or wrong. The kingdom of heave is a place of perfection where there is not wrong or evil, but the fact remains that we will not just turn to energy when we pass on just becuase you theorize it.
Emotions only pertain to finite beings!
professor
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Dec 1, 2009 4:50 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
bohdiprana
bohdipranabohdipranaLondon, Ontario Canada32 Threads 1,493 Posts
rolling on the floor laughing


its ok, I dont expect everyone to have common sense.

Since you don't die, you have eternity, then murder is not wrong, because you cannot be killed. You have eternity!!! You lose this body, you get a new one later yes? this is your reasoning, so you best understand it.


new age laugh Sometimes I enjoy you're apparent lack of common sense.

comfort
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Dec 1, 2009 4:51 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
monroferi
monroferimonroferiTehran, Iran7 Posts
is it the same thread?!
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Dec 1, 2009 4:52 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
bohdiprana
bohdipranabohdipranaLondon, Ontario Canada32 Threads 1,493 Posts
Conrad73: Emotions only pertain to finite beings!



I'm not sure thats entirely true Conrad. Hard to prove though.
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