Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you? ( Archived) (852)

Dec 5, 2009 9:45 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
bay163
bay163bay163san mateo, California USA8 Threads 4 Polls 991 Posts
scousedon: Well I have yet to witness this diversity, let him show his religious tolerance, his compassion, his turning of the other cheek, all I see is vitriol from him.
See, I can get away with the above because I am not preaching a pure mind, body or soul.
you can not, get away with that, who says you can get away, stop being that way and preaching respect YOU HYPOCRIT and of coarse DUESCHEBAG lol
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Dec 5, 2009 9:46 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
scousedon
scousedonscousedonLiverpool, Cheshire, England UK14 Threads 4 Polls 1,643 Posts
seveneyes: but anyway scous. I think that I am gifted in discernment. I see you also as a unique spirit and an individual meaning good to those around him. That is why you and I have buried the hatchet so to speak. I think we genuinely like eachother reguardless of differing views. This is good. I venture to think that it will be the same with bay and yourself once the lines have been fully drawn.
cheers Until next time we cross swords, so to speak.
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Dec 5, 2009 9:47 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
seveneyes
seveneyesseveneyesaztec, New Mexico USA1 Threads 578 Posts
scousedon: Until next time we cross swords, so to speak.


On Guard! lol head banger
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Dec 5, 2009 9:49 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
scousedon
scousedonscousedonLiverpool, Cheshire, England UK14 Threads 4 Polls 1,643 Posts
bay163: you can not, get away with that, who says you can get away, stop being that way and preaching respect YOU HYPOCRIT and of coarse DUESCHEBAG lol


And to show my unholy conviction of live and let live, I will live my sad life like a hedonist and be damned, you can do the same and have eternal happiness, until then.cheers
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Dec 5, 2009 9:52 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
Martia
MartiaMartiabenalla, Victoria Australia141 Threads 1 Polls 2,888 Posts
bay163: Ps to you, any woman who wants respect needs to show some, you got a problem with that WOMAN (as in the garden of eden)


I love children and animals! will help someone in need and hell hath no fury (pun only) if I see the small and helpless being abused.
That is my nature and I live by that.In no way am I a hypocrite.

Anyway there are no winners in this empty war of words.
As long as we can all be Brave Kind and Loving to the best of out abilities what is better than that. teddybear
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Dec 5, 2009 9:53 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
seveneyes
seveneyesseveneyesaztec, New Mexico USA1 Threads 578 Posts
its cool how even hedonistic views change over time after recieving the consequences of actions. All things will eventually capitulate to Gods view and power!
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Dec 5, 2009 9:55 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
seveneyes
seveneyesseveneyesaztec, New Mexico USA1 Threads 578 Posts
Martia: I love children and animals! will help someone in need and hell hath no fury (pun only) if I see the small and helpless being abused.
That is my nature and I live by that.In no way am I a hypocrite.

Anyway there are no winners in this empty war of words.
As long as we can all be Brave Kind and Loving to the best of out abilities what is better than that.


what is better than that is doing just what you have said, and having a relationship with him who created and loves us.

Hope you get to that place!

All my love (for you are a woman and I love you), Mikeheart beating
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Dec 5, 2009 9:58 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
LaVerdad
LaVerdadLaVerdadBaghdad, Iraq1 Threads 1,897 Posts
Hi all I hope everyone is having a pleasant evening!!yay
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Dec 5, 2009 9:59 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
navygirl1
navygirl1navygirl1Calgary, Alberta Canada6 Threads 1,586 Posts
brandycuba: I have found that there are very few people who believe in God or Jesus on this site, can someone tell me what their reasoning is? Why don't you believe in God, Jesus?


Honestly, never gave it much thought. Whether I beleive in God or not isn't going to change who I am. I like to help charities, try to be a good person and not hold grudges. I don't need to pray to God to forgive me for my sins, I need to forgive myself and just learn not to make the same mistakes.
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Dec 5, 2009 10:00 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
scousedon
scousedonscousedonLiverpool, Cheshire, England UK14 Threads 4 Polls 1,643 Posts
LaVerdad: Hi all I hope everyone is having a pleasant evening!!


Morning/evening, yes, we are all sitting in our respective teepees smoking peacepipes LVangel
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Dec 5, 2009 10:00 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
bay163
bay163bay163san mateo, California USA8 Threads 4 Polls 991 Posts
Martia: I love children and animals! will help someone in need and hell hath no fury (pun only) if I see the small and helpless being abused.
That is my nature and I live by that.In no way am I a hypocrite.

Anyway there are no winners in this empty war of words.
As long as we can all be Brave Kind and Loving to the best of out abilities what is better than that.


Nicer, good job but wrong about empty war (satans lie) I have led a atheist from mocker to baptised
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Dec 5, 2009 10:01 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
scousedon
scousedonscousedonLiverpool, Cheshire, England UK14 Threads 4 Polls 1,643 Posts
navygirl1: Honestly, never gave it much thought. Whether I beleive in God or not isn't going to change who I am. I like to help charities, try to be a good person and not hold grudges. I don't need to pray to God to forgive me for my sins, I need to forgive myself and just learn not to make the same mistakes.


Now that is a very nice post, and very good point.
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Dec 5, 2009 10:01 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
LaVerdad: Hi all I hope everyone is having a pleasant evening!!


wave
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Dec 5, 2009 10:01 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
LaVerdad
LaVerdadLaVerdadBaghdad, Iraq1 Threads 1,897 Posts
scousedon: Morning/evening, yes, we are all sitting in our respective teepees smoking peacepipes LV


Let peace prevail..............for nowdevil
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Dec 5, 2009 10:02 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
navygirl1: Honestly, never gave it much thought. Whether I beleive in God or not isn't going to change who I am. I like to help charities, try to be a good person and not hold grudges. I don't need to pray to God to forgive me for my sins, I need to forgive myself and just learn not to make the same mistakes.


nicely said thumbs up
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Dec 5, 2009 10:02 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
wildatheart2
wildatheart2wildatheart2dublin, Dublin Ireland66 Posts
brandycuba: I have found that there are very few people who believe in God or Jesus on this site, can someone tell me what their reasoning is? Why don't you believe in God, Jesus?


Hi,

I can obviously only speak for myself.
I am Irish.Born and raised in a strong Catholic faith.
As a child I was a big believer in Jesus, but back then I had no reason not to be.
I believed what my parents told me, just like Santa Claus or The Tooth Fairy. I no reason to question them.
However as I grew up and learned about science, logic and reason, I began to question my own faith and faith in general.
I studies Theology & Philosophy at Trinity College, Dublin.

I discovered things there, which for some reason were not common knowledge. Obviously kept hidden from the masses by the main churches.. Christian,Jewish & Muslim.

I learned about 'Gods' thaat pre-dated the God of Abraham, (also the Christian & Muslim God) by thousands of years.
For instance,the Egyptian God - Horus. He was born of a virgin on December 25th, Began his ministry at age 30, had 12 desciples, died by crucifiction and rose from the dead after 3 days. Sound familiar?
That was 3000 B.C

A lot of early gods share these attributes; Mythra, the Roman God, Krisna,the Hindu God... I could go on.
I discovered that all of these stories were just ways for early man to explain the movements of the Sun and the Stars.

For instance - On December 25th, the sun rises in the constelation 'Virgo' (Born of a Virgin) On that day the che configeration is followed by the 3 stars the southern cross of of Orions belt (Followed by 3 Kings) on December 22nd, the shortest day of the year, the sun stops moving to the naked eye until December 25th. (the son died on the cross and rose again after 3 days)

There are plenty of books on these and other subjects, if you want to find out more.
Obviosly Evolution has a big part to play in peoples loss of faith. If you cannot believe in the 1st book of the Bible, how are you expected to believe in the rest?
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Dec 5, 2009 10:02 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
LaVerdad
LaVerdadLaVerdadBaghdad, Iraq1 Threads 1,897 Posts
How you doing Trish, I like the photo, happy dayswave
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Dec 5, 2009 10:06 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
scousedon
scousedonscousedonLiverpool, Cheshire, England UK14 Threads 4 Polls 1,643 Posts
wildatheart2: Hi,

I can obviously only speak for myself.
I am Irish.Born and raised in a strong Catholic faith.
As a child I was a big believer in Jesus, but back then I had no reason not to be.
I believed what my parents told me, just like Santa Claus or The Tooth Fairy. I no reason to question them.
However as I grew up and learned about science, logic and reason, I began to question my own faith and faith in general.
I studies Theology & Philosophy at Trinity College, Dublin.

I discovered things there, which for some reason were not common knowledge. Obviously kept hidden from the masses by the main churches.. Christian,Jewish & Muslim.

I learned about 'Gods' thaat pre-dated the God of Abraham, (also the Christian & Muslim God) by thousands of years.
For instance,the Egyptian God - Horus. He was born of a virgin on December 25th, Began his ministry at age 30, had 12 desciples, died by crucifiction and rose from the dead after 3 days. Sound familiar?
That was 3000 B.C

A lot of early gods share these attributes; Mythra, the Roman God, Krisna,the Hindu God... I could go on.
I discovered that all of these stories were just ways for early man to explain the movements of the Sun and the Stars.

For instance - On December 25th, the sun rises in the constelation 'Virgo' (Born of a Virgin) On that day the che configeration is followed by the 3 stars the southern cross of of Orions belt (Followed by 3 Kings) on December 22nd, the shortest day of the year, the sun stops moving to the naked eye until December 25th. (the son died on the cross and rose again after 3 days)

There are plenty of books on these and other subjects, if you want to find out more.
Obviosly Evolution has a big part to play in peoples loss of faith. If you cannot believe in the 1st book of the Bible, how are you expected to believe in the rest?


Excellent and thought provoking post.
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Dec 5, 2009 10:06 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
wildatheart2: Hi,

I can obviously only speak for myself.
I am Irish.Born and raised in a strong Catholic faith.
As a child I was a big believer in Jesus, but back then I had no reason not to be.
I believed what my parents told me, just like Santa Claus or The Tooth Fairy. I no reason to question them.
However as I grew up and learned about science, logic and reason, I began to question my own faith and faith in general.
I studies Theology & Philosophy at Trinity College, Dublin.

I discovered things there, which for some reason were not common knowledge. Obviously kept hidden from the masses by the main churches.. Christian,Jewish & Muslim.

I learned about 'Gods' thaat pre-dated the God of Abraham, (also the Christian & Muslim God) by thousands of years.
For instance,the Egyptian God - Horus. He was born of a virgin on December 25th, Began his ministry at age 30, had 12 desciples, died by crucifiction and rose from the dead after 3 days. Sound familiar?
That was 3000 B.C

A lot of early gods share these attributes; Mythra, the Roman God, Krisna,the Hindu God... I could go on.
I discovered that all of these stories were just ways for early man to explain the movements of the Sun and the Stars.

For instance - On December 25th, the sun rises in the constelation 'Virgo' (Born of a Virgin) On that day the che configeration is followed by the 3 stars the southern cross of of Orions belt (Followed by 3 Kings) on December 22nd, the shortest day of the year, the sun stops moving to the naked eye until December 25th. (the son died on the cross and rose again after 3 days)

There are plenty of books on these and other subjects, if you want to find out more.
Obviosly Evolution has a big part to play in peoples loss of faith. If you cannot believe in the 1st book of the Bible, how are you expected to believe in the rest?


Oh welcome thumbs up wave
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Dec 5, 2009 10:08 PM CST Those who don't believe in God or Jesus, why don't you?
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
LaVerdad: How you doing Trish, I like the photo, happy days


Thanks, yep, it was happy days, Morgan took it - Im not here long, im just having a look in before bed wave
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