Towering inferno in England ( Archived) (258)

Jun 15, 2017 3:32 PM CST Towering inferno in England
...A sad day indeed.......thos poor people/children.....sad flower sad flower ..R.I.P.......but what did annoy me.......was a young Islamic girl about 25 years old.....who had lost no one........said on the news.....how disgusted she was , at the lack of response by the fire service,,,,,the firemen at that time were on the 21st floor trying to get people out.......but were driven back by smoke/flames.......I just wonder.....where was this girl during the 3 terrorist attacks.....celebrating......I rest my case.....a sad day.......
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Jun 15, 2017 3:43 PM CST Towering inferno in England
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
Oh there's more, Debbie.

The inquiry after the Lakanan House tower block fire in 2009 where 6 people died took four years. The review of that inquiry which should include building regs and fire safety has yet to be published.

The last minister for housing who was sitting on it, lost his seat in the election and was swiftly given the position of chief of staff by Theresa May, meaning that despite being voted out by the public, he is now the prime minister's closest advisor.

Calls for this review to be published immediately have been met with refusal by the Conservative government.

Ima soo wondering how incriminating that review would be if it were made public, especially as there have been calls for those accountable for Grenfell to be tried for corporate manslaughter.
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Jun 15, 2017 6:07 PM CST Towering inferno in England
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
Scotland Yard has launched a criminal inquiry.

I wonder if the shredders are working overtime at Downing St.
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Jun 15, 2017 8:04 PM CST Towering inferno in England
I hope there are Chemists on the investigation team. As soon as I read that the building was recently clad in Aluminum I knew the reason the fire burned with such intensity, You see, Aluminum burns at over 4,000 degrees f. It's like the building was wrapped with match heads. The white powder that the firemen saw falling from the building was Aluminum Oxide, a state the metal goes through as it burns. Aluminum is a lot like Magnesium when it burns. Sometimes when a race car crashes and burns the Mag wheels may ignite and there is no way to put in out until the wheel is reduced to a pile of white dust.
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Jun 16, 2017 3:12 AM CST Towering inferno in England
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
Six bodies have been recovered.

Eleven bodies have been found, but as yet cannot be removed from the building.

More than 70 people are believed to be unaccounted for
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Jun 16, 2017 3:16 AM CST Towering inferno in England
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
There are fears that the number of dead could go into triple figures.

Survivors have described tripping over bodies as they tried to escape.
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Jun 16, 2017 3:27 AM CST Towering inferno in England
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
We all are gonna hear about worse things to come in life ....

How about we just connect with singles and leave the morbid stuff to the tv dunno

We are all losing track as to why we are on here confused
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Jun 16, 2017 5:32 AM CST Towering inferno in England
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
30 people have been confirmed dead.
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Jun 16, 2017 5:43 AM CST Towering inferno in England
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
jac_the_gripper: Scotland Yard has launched a criminal inquiry.

I wonder if the shredders are working overtime at Downing St.

According to some lawyers , what is needed is a public inquest and not a public inquiry.
At a public inquest members of the public can question those involved, and call expert witnesses.
At a public enquiry, the government controls it , and the public can't question anyone.
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Jun 16, 2017 5:46 AM CST Towering inferno in England
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
I'm here because I like people.

I'm interested in people.

I'm interested in their welfare, sharing the joys and burdens, hoping to move towards a fairer world.

This fire should not have happened. It wouldn't have happened if more people had been interested in people and moving towards a fairer world.

There are things to learn, things to change and we can only do that by learning and changing ourselves.

I can do that and you can do what you want. I don't have to seek a relationship because you choose to. You don't need to read, or contribute to this thread because I choose to.
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Jun 16, 2017 5:47 AM CST Towering inferno in England
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
jac_the_gripper: 30 people have been confirmed dead.


Hi Jac, home from work now.

Thankyou for the updates, I have freeview, on many channels.
But not up to date live.

Soph


teddybear
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Jun 16, 2017 5:58 AM CST Towering inferno in England
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
Yes, I believe the government has opened a public inquiry and Scotland Yard a criminal one.

I think Corbyn has called for residents and those affected to have proper legal representation which apparently they didn't have after the Lakanan House fire. Perhaps he was saying that there should be a public inquest, rather than people having lawyers.

It's the very least that can be done. Having had control taken away from them in so many ways, on so many levels, further subjugation during the recovery phase is not acceptable.

I doubt they will get it though, unless the present government collapses.
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Jun 16, 2017 6:04 AM CST Towering inferno in England
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
You're welcome, Soph.

Thanks for your interest and support. hug

And thanks to Galrads for creating this thread.
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Jun 16, 2017 6:30 AM CST Towering inferno in England
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
jac_the_gripper: Yes, I believe the government has opened a public inquiry and Scotland Yard a criminal one.

I think Corbyn has called for residents and those affected to have proper legal representation which apparently they didn't have after the Lakanan House fire. Perhaps he was saying that there should be a public inquest, rather than people having lawyers.

It's the very least that can be done. Having had control taken away from them in so many ways, on so many levels, further subjugation during the recovery phase is not acceptable.

I doubt they will get it though, unless the present government collapses.



Even your Queen mother said whilst England and "The Palace" getting bombed in her and his residence.

"I am glad we have been bombed. Now we can look the East End in the eye."

Then they walked among the destruction.
That was through War!

Meanwhile your Prime Minister will acknowledge this tragic happening.
Yet
Not walk among the people,sight,share give talk!,

I am appalled!
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Jun 16, 2017 6:39 AM CST Towering inferno in England
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
jac_the_gripper: You're welcome, Soph.

Thanks for your interest and support.

And thanks to Galrads for creating this thread.



As much as it may be of an interest, I have unequivocal support, my friend.,
My dearest mummy was born in Plumstead, I have a good strength of my English within me.

xxxxSophie
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Jun 16, 2017 7:59 AM CST Towering inferno in England
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
ok yay for
her
she needs to extend herself to the people.

We don't really know her here.
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Jun 16, 2017 8:25 AM CST Towering inferno in England
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
sophiasummer: ok yay for
her
she needs to extend herself to the people.

We don't really know her here.


TM lost a lot of respect by refusing to meet the people, the Queen mother and Winston Churchill were continuously among the common people, giving them succour during the war. TM is after all the leader of the people, God help us if she's a wrong un, she is making so many mistakes.
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Jun 16, 2017 8:32 AM CST Towering inferno in England
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
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Jun 16, 2017 8:36 AM CST Towering inferno in England
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
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Jun 16, 2017 10:46 AM CST Towering inferno in England
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,230 Posts
Conrad73: Hope everyone of the Occupants are alright!



Most recent news this morning is that over 100 have died and many are still missing

sad flower
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