God, fact or fiction -The Sequel. ( Archived) (777)

Dec 12, 2007 2:58 AM CST God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
wink

Do as I say....or else.uh oh
If it was true free will, there would be no threats involved.
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Dec 12, 2007 3:15 AM CST God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.
EastbayRay
EastbayRayEastbayRayLimassol, Cyprus10 Threads 1 Polls 781 Posts
Ignore those, guys. Those are for Gnome when he wakes up - if he ever can!
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Dec 12, 2007 3:15 AM CST God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Hey, Gnome - I concede - you were possibly right about Mark Twain wasting his breath


Mass Killing



Then I saw a vision of the Lord standing beside the altar. He said, "Strike the tops of the Temple columns so hard that the foundation will shake. Smash the columns so the roof will crash down on the people below. Then those who survive will be slaughtered in battle. No one will escape! "Even if they dig down to the place of the dead, I will reach down and pull them up. Even if they climb up into the heavens, I will bring them down. Even if they hide at the very top of Mount Carmel, I will search them out and capture them. Even if they hide at the bottom of the ocean, I will send the great sea serpent after them to bite and destroy them. Even if they are driven into exile, I will command the sword to kill them there. I am determined to bring disaster upon them and not to help them." (Amos 9:1-4 NLT)
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Dec 12, 2007 3:17 AM CST God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
How the heck can people say these things were not written by men frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated
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Dec 12, 2007 3:18 AM CST God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.
EastbayRay
EastbayRayEastbayRayLimassol, Cyprus10 Threads 1 Polls 781 Posts
You mean are beyond your comprehension WITH faith, because you don't have any FAITH in your comprehension?
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Dec 12, 2007 3:23 AM CST God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.
EastbayRay
EastbayRayEastbayRayLimassol, Cyprus10 Threads 1 Polls 781 Posts
Hey Trish, the Gospel of St John/Revelations: you don't even have to do any research to question its ‘questionable’ attribution to the Bible:

It's a piece of mad hate-filled writing attributed to the apostle of love St John!

If you really want to know about corruptions in the biblical scriptures, you need to read Sir Isaac Newton.

Contrary to what most people know, he wrote more about religion than anything else.
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Dec 12, 2007 3:31 AM CST God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.
EastbayRay
EastbayRayEastbayRayLimassol, Cyprus10 Threads 1 Polls 781 Posts
Yeah, especially gnomes religious fanatic prophesy:

'God will only come to stop the last war!'


My God!professor scold laugh laugh rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Dec 12, 2007 3:38 AM CST God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.
EastbayRay
EastbayRayEastbayRayLimassol, Cyprus10 Threads 1 Polls 781 Posts
I second the notion.

Google Darwin while you're at it as well, because you say you want to be enlightened, but when I quoted his accounts of Indian genocide you refuted their validity!

Now you’re starting to scamper around. Wake up my man!!!
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Dec 12, 2007 4:07 AM CST God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.
EastbayRay
EastbayRayEastbayRayLimassol, Cyprus10 Threads 1 Polls 781 Posts
Men with Long Hair are a Disgrace

Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him, but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her? For her hair is given to her for a covering. (1 Corinthians 11:14-15 NAS)



(P.S. Every painting of Jesus that I have seen has him with long hair.)

VERY VALID POINT THERE, TRISH!

Long hair is by instinct in man frowned upon in man, and man would like-wise frown by instinct upon women with short-hair, or these are at any 'not the norm' even today.

It's a reversal of our instinctual aesthetical values.

I see the human, all too human logic in it.
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Dec 12, 2007 4:52 AM CST God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
1. Do you suffer from delusions of grandeur to assume that your faith intimidates me? I am not an easily intimidated person Gnome, especially when it comes to issues in which I have plenty of self confidence – such as this. Actually, that hits on one of the cornerstones of my abhorrence, yes, abhorrence of Christianity – its use of intimidation - this is evident throughout most of the Bible.

I just did a search of the book you mention and found the contents quite commendable, however, I have found many such others in my searching’s which are not based on Christianity – there are many such people in the world nowadays, thankfully, and many such quests to address issues such as spiritual emptiness, egocentric leadership, extreme poverty, pandemic disease, and illiteracy. Or is this another claim of yours for which Christianity gets the gold cup?

I must here mention how happy it makes me that education is nowadays in the hands of the people as opposed to, in the hands of the church and although still in its infancy, it pleases me immensely to see the many changes which are afoot.



2. Please, by the same token, do not assume that all who do not pray do not do good deeds – what a crazy notion. I have never dug a well or cared for an orphan but have done lots of voluntary works in different areas – as have many of us who don’t need to depend on piety as a means of self worth.

3. Christian conspiracy of world domination, hahaha, nope, that day has long since passed, the chance was there and they blew it – people are seeing through the lies, the calls to arms and the world domination bullsh--. To each their own is a much more friendly concept – it may be too late though – we will see.

Yes, the infighting with the various Christian denominations, quite troubling isn’t it – where does it all stem from do you think?

I think it may have a lot to do with the base upon which the church is built – personally.


4. You think that man has little lasting impact on nature? Tell that to the people from Chernobyl or Nagasaki. Better still, tell it to Bush, he speaks with God you know – maybe he will be on our side in the next war if GW tells him to.

Nuclear fallout damages for years - Significant immunological alterations noted include: (i) attrition of T-cell functions, as reductions in mitogen-dependent proliferation and interleukin-2 (IL-2) production; (ii) decrease in helper T-cell populations; and (iii) increase in blood inflammatory cytokine levels.

These findings suggest that A-bomb radiation exposure perturbed one or more of the primary processes responsible for T-cell homeostasis and the balance between cell renewal and survival and cell death among naïve and memory T cells. Such perturbed T-cell homeostasis may result in acceleration of immunological aging. Persistent inflammation, linked in some way to the perturbation of T-cell homeostasis, is key in addressing whether such noted immunological changes observed in A-bomb survivors are in fact associated with disease development.
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Dec 12, 2007 5:06 AM CST God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
It amused me too Ray laugh

I think its frowned on because it suggests non-compiance - but Im beggared if I know with what rolling on the floor laughing
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Dec 12, 2007 7:37 AM CST God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
What a great quote.....where did God publish that bon mot? Must be out of print...I have never come across it!
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Dec 12, 2007 7:39 AM CST God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
This myth of the modern day persecution of the American Christian amuses me.....it is like the smokers who long for the old days when they could blow their smoke in all our faces and now complain that it's not fair that others should have a right to live now.
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Dec 12, 2007 10:09 AM CST God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.
EastbayRay
EastbayRayEastbayRayLimassol, Cyprus10 Threads 1 Polls 781 Posts
I belive that gnome is quoting me, falling man.laugh laugh rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing laugh laugh
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Dec 12, 2007 10:11 AM CST God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.
EastbayRay
EastbayRayEastbayRayLimassol, Cyprus10 Threads 1 Polls 781 Posts
Told it to Trish on the original God thread.

laugh laugh laugh rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

Gnome::professor:
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Dec 12, 2007 10:34 AM CST God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.
EastbayRay
EastbayRayEastbayRayLimassol, Cyprus10 Threads 1 Polls 781 Posts
Don't wound his pride - it's American! laugh rolling on the floor laughing laugh rolling on the floor laughing

Just kidding with you, Gnome. Nothing wrong with being American. There isn't one Country that I can't ruthlessly attack for political/historical atrocity.


Even my own.devil
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Dec 12, 2007 10:37 AM CST God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.
wanderinggnome
wanderinggnomewanderinggnomeBelle Fourche, South Dakota USA5 Threads 688 Posts
Why don't you tell us what you REALLY think.
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Dec 12, 2007 10:41 AM CST God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.
wanderinggnome
wanderinggnomewanderinggnomeBelle Fourche, South Dakota USA5 Threads 688 Posts
Did your parents allow you 'free will'
Face it if another's will was never imposed on you at some point, you'd still be sitting in a crappy diaper. If you want free will you have to accept responsibility. Sometimes the only way to teach that is with consequence.
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Dec 12, 2007 10:45 AM CST God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.
EastbayRay
EastbayRayEastbayRayLimassol, Cyprus10 Threads 1 Polls 781 Posts
Gnome . . . naughty gnome. scold scold professor professor

Empty post not addressing the issues in it.

You tire? Good - because the truth is relentless and requires ruthlessness to uncover.

And the world is a dark, dark place, Gnome . . .

And didn’t God say: dust thou art and unto dust shalt thou return?

And his son say: 'Through me you will have eternal life'?

So even GOD has a rebellious son!
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Dec 12, 2007 10:54 AM CST God, fact or fiction -The Sequel.
prncss4someone
prncss4someoneprncss4someoneHopeful, Michigan USA57 Threads 8 Polls 7,227 Posts
professor Okay, every one of you gets an A plus a red star for your copy and paste lessons...tongue rolling on the floor laughing
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