After we die, our soul ... ( Archived) (108)

Jul 1, 2011 3:16 AM CSTAfter we die, our soul ...
sugrmint
sugrmintsugrmintSouth, Luxembourg1 Threads 1 Polls 1 Posts

After we die, our soul ...(Vote Below)

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... dies.
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16%
... goes to heaven or burns in hell forever.
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21%
... is reborn in some form.
9
11%
... leaves the body to become a spirit.
20
25%
... becomes one again with the Universe.
15
19%
... enjoys eternity in company of xxx virgins.
0
0%
... other (please specify in comments).
6
8%
Total Votes
80
confused
(only serious answers please)
angel
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Jul 1, 2011 3:17 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
carenza
carenzacarenzanear the sea, South Holland Netherlands82 Threads 1 Polls 3,113 Posts
sugrmint: (only serious answers please)


meets the Great Mother...

to walk in the Garden and will be reborn after a while.

wine
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Jul 1, 2011 3:43 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
Leo78
Leo78Leo78Sydney, New South Wales Australia4 Threads 4 Polls 732 Posts
It ends along with the body.

beer
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Jul 1, 2011 3:53 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
Leo78: It ends along with the body.


Go hunt out books by Alison Dubois.

Also read the published scientific experiments done on her mediumship, by the University of Arizona.

cheers

p.s. you, too will transcend in the same way as everyone else, whether you like/believe it or not. angel
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Jul 1, 2011 4:01 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
Leo78
Leo78Leo78Sydney, New South Wales Australia4 Threads 4 Polls 732 Posts
venere08: Go hunt out books by Alison Dubois.

Also read the published scientific experiments done on her mediumship, by the University of Arizona.



p.s. you, too will transcend in the same way as everyone else, whether you like/believe it or not.


Do plants and animals have this soul that transcends too? Or is it just humans? I think people just convince themselves that we are a special lifeform and not just another part of the eco system that lives and dies as a natural course of things.

Mediums, psychics and religion all fall into the same category for me. Dubious. Designed to make people feel better about mortality.

Maybe i'm wrong... It would be nice if you were right though :)

beer
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Jul 1, 2011 4:07 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
I never got far enough to know.
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Jul 1, 2011 4:15 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
sugrmint: (only serious answers please)


since you said please ,I won`t make a joke...
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Jul 1, 2011 4:18 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
venere08: Go hunt out books by Alison Dubois.

Also read the published scientific experiments done on her mediumship, by the University of Arizona.



p.s. you, too will transcend in the same way as everyone else, whether you like/believe it or not.


Is it compulsory and do we loose our freedom on the other side ? dunno

wave bouquet
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Jul 1, 2011 4:19 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
Boban1: since you said please ,I won`t make a joke...


blues ..... oh PLEASE make a joke .....grin
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Jul 1, 2011 4:49 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
Ocee35
Ocee35Ocee35Jackson, Michigan USA69 Threads 2 Polls 3,852 Posts
sugrmint: After we die, our soul ...




...goes for a ride on the soul train.



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Jul 1, 2011 4:51 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
Ocee35: ...goes for a ride on the soul train.


..... and qualify as a soul singer ..... dancing
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Jul 1, 2011 6:19 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
venere08: Go hunt out books by Alison Dubois.

Also read the published scientific experiments done on her mediumship, by the University of Arizona.



p.s. you, too will transcend in the same way as everyone else, whether you like/believe it or not.
Wonder if she could have duped the People from the James Randi Educational Foundation so easy?laugh

Criticism

Skeptics such as Dr. Paul Kurtz and Dr. Ray Hyman say that DuBois does not have psychic powers. Ray Hyman of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry (CSI), questions the scientific integrity of Schwartz's approach to such psychic phenomena, in papers written for the organization. Schwartz has responded by explaining that there were logical errors in Hyman's and other published criticisms of his work. Schwartz's experimental methodology is available for public analysis in papers uploaded to his web site.[dead link]

Skeptic James Randi says that people such as DuBois give the appearance of psychic powers through cold reading techniques. For example, DuBois, when doing her first reading of Schwartz, told him that his deceased friend was telling her, "I don't walk alone," which Schwartz understood to be a reference to his friend's confinement to a wheelchair, which DuBois could not have known about. Randi says that Schwartz leapt to an unsupportable conclusion, since the notion of "not walking alone" can mean any number of things, and "certainly does not describe being in a wheelchair." Randi also asserts that experiments that allegedly yield positive results of psychic powers, such as the ones done with DuBois, are not conducted using proper scientific controls. In light of Schwartz's assertion that "some" of his experiments with DuBois were performed under such conditions, Randi questions why the rest of them were not, and points to a report demonstrating that a few of Schwartz's experiments were not performed according to standard scientific protocol. Dr. Schwartz's point-by-point response to Randi's criticisms were published in 2005.

Randi has offered to have DuBois tested for his One Million Dollar Challenge. According to Randi, DuBois declined his invitation to the challenge.

Former FBI profiler, behavioral science expert and MSNBC analyst Clint Van Zandt challenges statements about psychics helping law enforcement arguing, "If psychics were truly successful and if their results were not simply the consequence of trickery (at worse ) or good interviewing skills (at best), then why don't law enforcement agencies have psychic detective squads, a real X-Files Unit, or other ways to integrate these paranormal investigative capabilities?"

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Jul 1, 2011 7:17 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
gardenhackle
gardenhacklegardenhackleStratford, Connecticut USA55 Threads 9 Polls 2,067 Posts
I'd fill you guys in, but it's been so long I can't remember what happened.
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Jul 1, 2011 7:18 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
sugrmint: (only serious answers please)
what is a soul? confused seriously and not from English dictionary laugh
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Jul 1, 2011 7:23 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
lucynad
lucynadlucynadSunny city, Sicilia Italy7 Threads 2,431 Posts
AgentAjax: what is a soul? seriously and not from English dictionary


i'll, seriously, support this question... professor laugh
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Jul 1, 2011 7:39 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
Soul? What the hell is a soul? Yes I'm being serious. Only a silver tongue con artist could make someone believe something exists which,
Can't be seen
Can't be felt
Can't be touched
Can't be heard
Can't be smelled
has zero weight, doesn't reflect light, leaves no shadow, produces no heat, makes no sound, has no size or shape.doh

Religion, the most successful scam on earth. Gullible people will happily detonate high explosives packed on their bodies, so effective is this con job.
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Jul 1, 2011 7:53 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
gardenhackle
gardenhacklegardenhackleStratford, Connecticut USA55 Threads 9 Polls 2,067 Posts
ooby_dooby: Soul? What the hell is a soul? Yes I'm being serious. Only a silver tongue con artist could make someone believe something exists which,
Can't be seen
Can't be felt
Can't be touched
Can't be heard
Can't be smelled
has zero weight, doesn't reflect light, leaves no shadow, produces no heat, makes no sound, has no size or shape.



Whoa, Dude! I think the reindeer would disagree with you about Santa Claus having no weight.
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Jul 1, 2011 8:09 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
ooby_dooby: Soul? What the hell is a soul? Yes I'm being serious. Only a silver tongue con artist could make someone believe something exists which,
Can't be seen
Can't be felt
Can't be touched
Can't be heard
Can't be smelled
has zero weight, doesn't reflect light, leaves no shadow, produces no heat, makes no sound, has no size or shape
.

Religion, the most successful scam on earth. Gullible people will happily detonate high explosives packed on their bodies, so effective is this con job.


Pretty much nor does the air we breathe dunno

Just because most people can't see, feel, touch, hear, smell, or "measure" a soul, it does not mean they don't exist.

Before telephones were invented, if you'd told anyone that one would be able to hear the voice of somebody who was thousands of miles away, as clear as if they were standing next to you, they would have said "madness!! that's impossible!!"

The existence of soul or spirit has absolutely nothing to do with religion.
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Jul 1, 2011 8:13 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Is it proven that soul exists??????dunno dunno dunno
sugrmint: (only serious answers please)
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Jul 1, 2011 8:15 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
Blues63
Blues63Blues63Brisbane, Queensland Australia6 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
After we die?



We smell bad laugh
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Jul 1, 2011 8:16 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
chococherrie
chococherriechococherrieSomewhere over the Rainbow, Indonesia71 Threads 5 Polls 5,647 Posts
waits for judgement day
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Jul 1, 2011 8:23 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
Leo78: Do plants and animals have this soul that transcends too? Or is it just humans? I think people just convince themselves that we are a special lifeform and not just another part of the eco system that lives and dies as a natural course of things.

Mediums, psychics and religion all fall into the same category for me. Dubious. Designed to make people feel better about mortality.

Maybe i'm wrong... It would be nice if you were right though :)


Good mediums are able to provide physical description of the person who's passed away and they are communicating with, without having ever met them or seen a photo. They are able to provide names and significant dates and describe events that can't be read from the body language of the live person sitting opposite them (the sitter). This can include events from the past and events shared between the sitter & the deceased and from the recent past of the "sitter", like how they broke a cup this morning which can't either be read from body language.

Anybody receiving a "reading" which only containts vague information that can be understood in many different ways is not dealing with a good medium. Enf of.
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Jul 1, 2011 8:27 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
If we have no soul... then what is it that makes us unique ...not on the physical part... but stuff around.. how kind, caring, loving, helpful, all the emotions side is from the soul No????hug
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Jul 1, 2011 8:34 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
Merriweather: If we have no soul... then what is it that makes us unique ...not on the physical part... but stuff around.. how kind, caring, loving, helpful, all the emotions side is from the soul No????


Personality ... dunno
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Jul 1, 2011 8:39 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
Conrad73: Wonder if she could have duped the People from the James Randi Educational Foundation so easy?

Criticism

Skeptics such as Dr. Paul Kurtz and Dr. Ray Hyman say that DuBois does not have psychic powers. Ray Hyman of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry (CSI), questions the scientific integrity of Schwartz's approach to such psychic phenomena, in papers written for the organization. Schwartz has responded by explaining that there were logical errors in Hyman's and other published criticisms of his work. Schwartz's experimental methodology is available for public analysis in papers uploaded to his web site.[dead link]

Skeptic James Randi says that people such as DuBois give the appearance of psychic powers through cold reading techniques. For example, DuBois, when doing her first reading of Schwartz, told him that his deceased friend was telling her, "I don't walk alone," which Schwartz understood to be a reference to his friend's confinement to a wheelchair, which DuBois could not have known about. Randi says that Schwartz leapt to an unsupportable conclusion, since the notion of "not walking alone" can mean any number of things, and "certainly does not describe being in a wheelchair." Randi also asserts that experiments that allegedly yield positive results of psychic powers, such as the ones done with DuBois, are not conducted using proper scientific controls. In light of Schwartz's assertion that "some" of his experiments with DuBois were performed under such conditions, Randi questions why the rest of them were not, and points to a report demonstrating that a few of Schwartz's experiments were not performed according to standard scientific protocol. Dr. Schwartz's point-by-point response to Randi's criticisms were published in 2005.

Randi has offered to have DuBois tested for his One Million Dollar Challenge. According to Randi, DuBois declined his invitation to the challenge.

Former FBI profiler, behavioral science expert and MSNBC analyst Clint Van Zandt challenges statements about psychics helping law enforcement arguing, "If psychics were truly successful and if their results were not simply the consequence of trickery (at worse ) or good interviewing skills (at best), then why don't law enforcement agencies have psychic detective squads, a real X-Files Unit, or other ways to integrate these paranormal investigative capabilities?"



HI Conrad, I don't know about your Randy friendlaugh ...I can only refer you again, to the published scientific experiments by the University of Arizona. They would have used strict methodology and would not risk their professional integrity. Having results published in peer review journals is no mean feat. In any case, skeptics are labelled that for a reason. They never really intend to seriously consider any position other than their own, no matter what evidence might be brought to bear. Sceptics do not phase me, because I prefer to remain completely open to discovery. Closed mindedness isn't very appealing to me.

wine
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Jul 1, 2011 8:41 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Do i have the option choosing the judgerolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
chococherrie: waits for judgement day
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Jul 1, 2011 8:42 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
gardenhackle
gardenhacklegardenhackleStratford, Connecticut USA55 Threads 9 Polls 2,067 Posts
RDM59: Personality ...


What about folks who don't have any personality?
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Jul 1, 2011 8:44 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
Annoying
AnnoyingAnnoyingSaigon, Southeast Vietnam Vietnam5 Threads 847 Posts
I'll beccome ghost, like Casper crazy
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Jul 1, 2011 8:48 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
gardenhackle: What about folks who don't have any personality?


Them ! oh they are just soulless .....laugh
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Jul 1, 2011 8:58 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
EagleWoman: Pretty much nor does the air we breathe

Just because most people can't see, feel, touch, hear, smell, or "measure" a soul, it does not mean they don't exist.

Before telephones were invented, if you'd told anyone that one would be able to hear the voice of somebody who was thousands of miles away, as clear as if they were standing next to you, they would have said "madness!! that's impossible!!"

The existence of soul or spirit has absolutely nothing to do with religion.
Cool air til it's a liquid and you can see it. you can smell it, stand in front of a fan and you can feel it and it most certainly has weight in fact a 1" square column of air the height of the atmosphere weighs a staggering 14.7 lbs.

Definition of RELIGION
the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

The existence of a soul is a belief, a matter of faith, not a fact.
By the way in the case of the telephone you're not actually hearing the persons voice but a reasonable facsimile of it produced mechanically.
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Jul 1, 2011 8:59 AM CST After we die, our soul ...
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
I think a better discussion would be, does the soul exist? If it does then by definition, it cannot die. If it doesn't then we are all just a collection of atoms formed randomly after the big bang which we physically return to after death. The second of these leaves me wondering why we bother advancing as a species. Why do we bother curing illnesses or educating ourselves. In that scenario, life begins as nothing and ends as nothing and you can quote all the philosophers you like. Their opinion is no more or less valid than my own which is that the soul/spirit is eternal and is only too eager to escape the restraints of this life at times.conversing
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