RE: Since Dude has a hangover.........on Barak Obama's Election Win

Very well said, a true gentleman thank you, Tom.tip hat thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up hug hug

RE: Mf

Riya!!applause applause cheering wine wine wave wave hug hug

RE: What was your first ever date like?

Wonder if her Father is related to my parents? At, least he made an exception. We had a flat tire and mine would not make any exceptions, even though, the young man's Father came over the next day and explained he had taken the spare tie out of his car an put it in his wife's car and that he let his son borrow his car b/c he did not want his first date with me in his ratty old truck. We would have been better off if the young man had picked me up in his ratty old truck.cheers cheers cheers hug hug

RE: Mf

Agreed!!thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up

And Sir, I would have blocked you myself if you had used a few*chioce* words with me. MF is a very nice Woman I am proud to call and be a friend of.

If you have a problem that your gf shared that she shared with MF, then THAT PROBLEM IS BETWEEN YOU TWO, and NOT you and MF!!!!!!scold scold scold scold professor professor scold scold

RE: McCain Concedes

Agreed Robert. Expressing empathy, is my way also.

Dru, please accept my sympathies. I do understand your views, though, my friend, they are not mine.

I made my decision to support Obama on the way things have been for me in terms of :Jobs, Finances, Education Aid cuts, Medical.

Things for me have gone down worse and worse since I supported Regan the first time. I got laid off in 1998, Hon, and have not been able to find a decent job since.

I saw my former- Future- father- in -Law, My exfiance's Stepfather, after 36.5years of employment @ LTV Steel, just when he was ready to retire, find out that he had no pension, nor medical as LTV was broke.

I have friends whom saw their companies leave, Ohio, USA, for other countries and were told that in order to recieve their unemployment and severance packages, they had to train their relplacemants in person from those other countries both here and abroad. Many of these friends are also unemployed almost as long as I and in other cases even far longer than I.

There are other reasons, as well, but these are the basic ones, I have based my choices upon.

I am not gloating only tired and tired of being both tired and scared. We need some drastic changes and I feel I have given the other side a more than fair chance.

Can my, empathy for your feelings be acceptable to you in terms of all of our emotions in cluding my fellow supporters over zealousness?
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RE: cute older women with younger guys???

Night all

RE: cute older women with younger guys???

Give them time the night is young but not for me. Btw I am dyslexic, ADHD and Deaf. Sometimes I miss a few things. If nobody bites with the elections fresh, bring it back up in a few days.

In the meantime go tell us what your first date was like on that theread.hug

RE: Thoughts and Prayers for Em's Boyfriend

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My prayers are with you

RE: cute older women with younger guys???

HEY Alldoh doh doh

RE: cute older women with younger guys???

He all want to give DVH13 some more insight, here.hug

RE: Howlong did you wait inline to vote today?

~2 hours

RE: who is taken???

Congrats!hug hug hug

RE: What was your first ever date like?

My Parents were ultra strict, (guess you all figured that out,by now). They had unbendable rules.:

#1 We were not permitted to date until we after we had been 16 for two Quarters, (grade periods).

#2 The guy could NOT pick you up before 7:30pm.

#3 He MUST come to the door and ask Father to see you, any horn beeping,etc then you WILL NEVER go out with him.

#4 He and You MUST sit and talk with Father and Mother for 30 mins, or NO date.

#5 You MUST be home by 9:00pm.

#6 He MUST return you to the house come in and talk again for 30 min AND you both BETTER be in the same shape you were in when you left.

#7 ANY violations would result in a 1 month grounding and with the young man spending time @ the Farm with Father for 3 months BEFORE another date would be permitted, (if he still wanted to see you that was)


My second quarter ended the year before, so my third quarter as a 16 y/o was the next fall.

I accepted a date with a nice young man. He picked me up, followed all the rules.

Everything was held @ the School 45 mins away. We got there and had to return almost as quickly as we arrived. we had a Flat tire oon the way home had to walk ~ 2mi to find a phone. He had borrowed his father's car for our date.

His Father Brought the young mans truck to us and said you better get her home you know how her parents are.

Well it all ended according to the rules I was 2 hours late and grounded. The young man was willing to see me again but I was too humiliated. My younger sister saw the whole thing and both she and I never tried to date in HS again our youngest sister did ans broke the rules all the time.
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RE: Can anyone guide me plse.....????

Rwantin wrote:

This is tough - can't recall my ever being in this situation. My initial thought is they are not commodities, and it is as much their decision as it is your own. I would think this is a quandary that needs to be settled quickly for all involved.

Best of luck.


Dawn7z Wrote:
It will be decided with time. Its a very difficult situation to be in. However there really is one you will love over the other. The problem is the hurt at the end of it. You will hurt either way.

Claayer wrote:
Hmm you could make a list of pros and cons for each of them...

the likes and dislikes you have regarding them...

and see which one suits you the best.

All good advice.


Maybe you need to let both of them know you need time to think and why. This happened to me with one guy.

I have the utmost respect for him giving me the heads up.

I was hurt when he chose the other, but I respect him for letting me know he was torn.

I have met someonelse since and I hope he is the one.hug hug hug

RE: Decisions, Decisions, Decisions!!!

I just finished voting.thumbs up thumbs up grin

I'm not saying who, for now.cheers

RE: Women Hidden, Seen But Invisible

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RE: Getting to know you.

Relationsip Relationship .doh doh

RE: Getting to know you.

cswelcome cswelcome cswelcome handshake handshake handshake I also, may be in one of those "Relationsip Things"
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing as Dru has said.


But enjoy the fun and best of luck to you.
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RE: I need wussy, really bad.

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RE: Should a woman take her husband's name?

OK sorry but am sick of comments like thatu]Not all woman are out for what they can get in fact in my experience many are left in debt after a marriaige breakdown.[/quote]

:thumbsup: thumbs up As I said in the beginning, I also got loads of debt. My ex stopped paying on everything(house, utillities, all other bills) for a few years before we divorced.

I aggreed to keep the house and take his name off, work out repayment plans on the Utilities, pay all the upkeep bills that we had taken loans out on( new furnace, roof, repaired deck, new driveway,new sidewalks, the materials for having entirely replaced the inside,( of which I did most of the work, myself)).

It took me 9.5 months of working THREE jobs on 2 hours of sleep a day to make sure I had a place to live. He had let it slide and they were trying to forclose. I wanted nothing else. NOTHING.

The Judge found out from his Lawyer that I was, infact, the one whom had helped to support him while he went to graduate school and put my education on the back burner, leaving school while he was there. He asked him if it was fair to me for me to take on these major bills and get nothing else. I told my Lawyer I did not want anything but the house to live in.

When it came to the question of whom ran up the credit card bills, my ex said he wanted me to pay those too. I pointed out he was the one whom ran them up, they were in his name. I had only one joint card. He finally admitted I had not run them up, he had, his chemical dependencies had been more important than anything else. So he was ordered to pay those. I gave his Atty my card on the spot.

The Judge then issued a support order, of $2000.00 because I had given up my education to help him get his first. He said he felt it should be much more esp b/c I am handicapped.

However, that because I was determined to take nothing from the Marriage, except the house, that I should get a boost towards being able to return to school myself, so b/c I had helped him, it was only fair that he helped me.

He wanted him to pay that $2000 that month, as my ex made $900.00/week, this was in 1987! I was stunned. I sank into the chair while the room swam around me. I never knew he made that kind of money! Here I was with 5 paper routes, (while he slept), a pt job on campus and a regular job b/c we needed money.

Seeing my Stunned expression on learning my husband's salary, The Judge asked me if I would reconsider accepting spousal support b/c I had demonstrated a willingness to make the marriage work and tried very hard to help him get ahead. That it was only fair that he pay my mortgage and give me support for two years to allow me to finish school. AND that he COULD afford to help me. I still said no. I wanted nothing from him.

So he ordered only $2000.00 in spousal support and for John to pay my Atty fees, which my Atty jumped to. The Judge told me I was choosing a hard path, with my pride, b/c that after I had finished school, I could have given my ex back the spousal support if I wanted to, and he hoped I would not regret it.

His Father told me he should have whipped my behind for still refusing b/c it would be harder for me, taking that path, both his parents were on my side during the divorce.

BTW, my ex draged that $2000.00 out for 2 years. Then he tried to wipe out his credit card dept in his taxes and filed a joint return w/o my knowledge, (I had filed my own tax return) and then sent the IRS after me. The IRS finally sorted things out, found me not liable on innocent spouse clauses and had a long talk with him.

Looking back now, Finacially and educationwise, I should have listened to the Judge and my Parents-in-Law. Pridewise, I still do not regret it.
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RE: cute older women with younger guys???

Thxcheers hug comfort cheers hug

RE: cute older women with younger guys???

Sorry guys, but from the outside it DOES look/read funny.comfort comfort hug hug hug cheers cheers

RE: Observing The Fabric Of Personalities.

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RE: cute older women with younger guys???

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RE: Have you ever texted the wrong person?

dunno dunno confused confused confused

RE: cute older women with younger guys???

sweetowen wrote:
It's late in the eastern US. Not sure what time elsewhere. Guess you're stuck with me.....



I'm still here until my bf gets online then I gotta superjoin him in IM. Campus hours extended to 3:00am for exams/ Preps hug hug

RE: Mac or PC?




:comfort: comfort comfort OWIE!!!comfort comfort hug hug

RE: Mac or PC?

True, but like everything else there are going to be those of us whom like to do this and others whom never will do this and would rather have us to do it for themcheers cheers

RE: cute older women with younger guys???

You are welcome.hug handshake wine beer cheers hug

RE: cute older women with younger guys???

sweetowen wrote:
No, I'm saying I WOULD have a problem with it. That'd be all he wants.






I have learned to see what the guy is after first. If all he wants is an IE then, he can look elsewhere.

I have seen a few couples where the woman was 12 to 20 years older than the guy and they had the most stable and strongest marriages I ever saw.

It took me a while to get used to the idea, of a younger guy, for myself, in part b/c of Societal Conditioning, and b/c I really did not think we would have that much in common. Now I am far more open to the idea, as long as it is not a IE.



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