Only Amish are true.

I see there was a huge protest in front of the UN with the people screaming that fossil fuels need to go. Really?laugh I would like to have had a soap box and megaphone there. Everyone who walked all the way here, raise your hands. Now everyone who got here by plane, car, bus or train. That's what I thought.
Now, who heats with wood and cuts it by hand? Who uses and outhouse? Who makes their own bees wax candles for light? Who has a well with a bucket? Who only buys local from farmers? Who grows their own cotton and weaves and sews their own clothes? Who lives without a phone? TV?
Well guess what? You are all hypocrites. Everything you use and enjoy is at least in some part, due to fossil fuels. Unless you wish to go back to the dark ages, better get real.
Solar and wind are inconsistent and can't keep up to the demand. Know what else? Those metals and whatever are mined, smelted and shipped using fossil fuels. After raping Gia and destroying nature to get them.
What you NEED to do is stop consuming so much. Wasting so much. Like the old depression way. Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without.tongue
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laugh I quite agree with you. I'm 52 and still have clothes from 1995 etc. Possessions are either loved and worn, useful or never bought in the first place!!! I never had shitting machines (babies!) - just because a woman has a womb doesn't mean she has to reproduce another idiot version of herself or the man she had sex with!! laugh

I'm living a f#ck all frugal and green life as I can. Never overly materialistic, just trying to find some meaning and being authentic, even if it means pissing people off for wearing the same old top for years!!! (Not that anyone notices!)

The world has become saturated with too many unfeeling, ungrateful and fat f**king people taking too much from the earth. There's no control and it will ultimately kill civilisation.

Keep on being you! heart wings
Right on Aez thumbs up be as close to your true self always..
And the kicker !$
* meaning it comes up from the inner earth due to
Mysterious forces Darwin studiously avoided.
Car. ) Built to spill
Killer Joe. ) Rocky fellers
N0 cars go. ) Arcade fire.
...blo bach. ) Green Day. ) American Idiot.
Kicker part 2.
Before he struck abiotic oil..
Comprehensive examination of Green New Deal.

So, back in the days when only men could vote, hold public office and make all the decisions, it would have been hypocritical if men pushed, or voted for women's suffrage too? How would women have created change without the men who held all the power agreeing it was right that they should relinquish their monopoly?

I don't see that it's hypocritical to protest for access to something you have as yet little access to.

I don't see that people mustn't be a part of regular society in order to protest against something in regular society. It's surely those within the system that you need most?

When fossil fuel companies feel the wind of change and start to invest in renewable energy in order to remain relevant, profitable businesses (as is happening) then we will see the greatest change. We will have more and more access to renewable energy in order to use our consumer power as well as protesting, abstinence and reducing our reliance on/usage of fossil fuels.
Just a comment on oil businesses and renewable.
The future is Atom and the oil companies knows this
cos they are about as smart as Carl Sagen.

In the mean time they do support the slow developing limited effect
socalled green power as they know that is not ever becoming a proper competition to them, until they run out of their stuff, and then they will support... nuclear, not renewable any longer as that is like the laser disc, only a intermediate solution. Water (hydro-electric) power not included cos that is good and less dependent on weather too. Yes it needs some rain but if it doesn't come in semptember it might come in October. There is a magasin of water. There is no magasin for power excpet Tesla battery packs and, well I think a big city empty those in 45minutes or something. Besides batteries never was very clean.

Future is Atomic.
good luck running the world on Green Power,AKA "Renewables".laugh
I agree with Grand,that we need a lot more Nuclear Power-Plants,of the New Generation Type!
Abiotic oil and new nuke plants mentioned here.
I guess those intelligent people have been hiding.
There are other religious groups with the same beliefs as the Amish.The Mennonites.It all depends on where you are located as which group is prevalent in your area.
Unfortunately the NEW Amish drive trucks.
Even they change

Well I've heard of worse things than trucks hehe
But I see your point, those horse buggies was always a charmer.
They use cell phones too.
I called one roofer and heard medical breathing equipment in the back ground.
I can't prove it but I have heard rumors that Amsih women have their teeth removed to save on future dental costs.
Who knows, it isn't like you can ask.
You really want to go hardcore the Jains of India and the extreme measures they take to protect all life.
That is real dedication.

I know a guy who hates the Amish for the way they treat their animals. Horses for him and dogs for breeders.

@DL, I don't know much about Amish,
and I also think the O.P meant it not 2 literally per ce but to live 'amish-er'
I also wish people could be rewared a bonus of several thousand dollars each if they say pass 50 and still hasn't made any kiddoes. Nigeria should be subsidized that way, they're breeding like... ehm.. fill in the blanks..

On this earth it was barely one billion when my grandmother was born in 1894...
now it's 8 doubled! How on earth (pun intended) did we do that?!

Me I shower now and then and use up clothes and had a dumb phone until last year when my boss couldn't take it no more.... lol, my car is a toyota Yaris that has 375.000km on it now (233k miles)
and what else... I plan to move next year and live landly and grow as much of my own food as possible.
Something like this maybe, check if this opens for you DL:

Cheap ($46K) and a bit land too, 10 acres.thumbs up
Enough for a large vegetable garden.

"Me I shower now and then and use up clothes and had a dumb phone until last year when my boss couldn't take it no more.... lol, my car is a toyota Yaris that has 375.000km on it now (233k miles)
and what else... I plan to move next year and live landly and grow as much of my own food as possible"

Same with the shower and clothes. Then again I have a parrot who chews clothes and a dogh thjat pulls on them.
Plus I lost weight.
We garden I have lots of fruit growing of which I graze.
You can container garden anywhere or hydroponically in the house.
Since dope became legal Amazon sells a ton of grow supplies.
Check into Aquapopnics.
Fish on the bottom and plants on top.

. teddybear
My point is the hypocrisy of protesters. A small fraction actually believe in a cause and take the time to announce it. Then you have the wanna be's who jump in to kill time and be seen. Kind of like the professional funeral attenders.
I see too many that just follow the crowd, whatever it may be. And those who want this or that. As long as someone else deals with it. Like sacntuary cities as long as it doesnt happen in their neighborhood. You know...the NIMBY's.mumbling
I would like to see the ones against abortion, take in one of those crack babies. The ones pro wind agree to a wind farm next door. Or a field of solar arrays. Take in an illegal migrant. Or a homeless vet. Or abandoned child. is always they think this but dont put their money where their mouth is. Or the anti fossil fuel do without the conveniences they enjoy.
Likewise...I never had kids. Too risky. Now we get to get flooded with all the ones from southern countries that think a herd of kids they can't feed is a good thing.very mad
“Saving the Planet,” by George Carlin
I’m not one of these people who’s worried about everything. You got
people like this around you ? Country’s full of them now: people
walking around all day long, every minute of the day, worried... about
everything! Worried about the air; worried about the water; worried
about the soil; worried about insecticides, pesticides, food additives,
carcinogens; worried about radon gas; worried about asbestos;
worried about saving endangered species.
Let me tell you about endangered species all right? Saving endangered species is just one more
arrogant attempt by humans to control nature. It’s arrogant meddling; it’s what got us in trouble in the
first place. Doesn’t anybody understand that? Interfering with nature. Over 90% - over, WAY over –
90% of all the species that have ever lived on this planet, ever lived, are gone! Pwwt! They’re extinct!
We didn’t kill them all, they just disappeared. That’s what nature does. They disappear these days at
the rate of 25 a day and I mean regardless of our behaviour. Irrespective of how we act on this planet,
25 species that were here today will be gone tomorrow. Let them go gracefully. Leave nature alone.
Haven’t we done enough?
We’re so self-important, so self-important. Everybody’s gonna save something now: “Save the trees!
Save the bees! Save the whales! Save those snails!” and the greatest arrogance of all: “Save the
planet!” What?! Are these people kidding me?! Save the planet?! We don’t even know how to take
care of ourselves yet! We haven’t learned how to care for one another and we’re gonna save the
planet?! I’m getting tired of that rap! I’m getting tired of that! I’m tired of Earth Day! I’m tired of these
self-righteous environmentalists; these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with
this country is there aren’t enough bicycle paths! People trying to make the world safe for their
Besides, environmentalists don’t give a crap about the planet. They don’t care about the planet; not in
the abstract they don’t. You know what they’re interested in? A clean place to live; their own habitat.
They’re worried that someday in the future, they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow,
unenlightened self-interest doesn’t impress me.
Besides, there is nothing wrong with the planet... nothing wrong with the planet. The planet is fine...
the people are screwed! Compared to the people, THE PLANET IS DOING GREAT: Been here four
and a half billion years! Do you ever think about the arithmetic? The planet has been here four and a
half billion years, we’ve been here what? 100,000? Maybe 200,000? And we’ve only been engaged in
heavy industry for a little over 200 years. 200 years versus four and a half billion and we have the
conceit to think that somehow, we’re a threat? That somehow, we’re going to put in jeopardy this
beautiful little blue-green ball that’s just a-floatin’ around the sun?
The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through all kinds of things worse than us: been
through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drifts, solar flares, sunspots, magnetic
storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles, hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets
and asteroids and meteors, worldwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays,
recurring ice ages, and we think some plastic bags and aluminum cans are going to make a difference?
The planet isn’t going anywhere... we are! We’re going away! Pack your stuff, folks! We’re going
away and we won’t leave much of a trace either, thank God for that... maybe a little styrofoam...
maybe... little styrofoam.
The planet will be here, we’ll be long gone; just another failed mutation; just another closed-end
biological mistake; an evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet will shake us off like a bad case of fleas, a
surface nuisance. You wanna know how the planet’s doing? Ask those people in Pompeii who are
frozen into position from volcanic ash how the planet’s doing. Wanna know if the planet’s all right?
Ask those people in Mexico City or Armenia or a hundred other places buried under thousands of tons
of earthquake rubble if they feel like a threat to the planet this week. How about those people in
Kilauea, Hawaii who build their homes right next to an active volcano and then wonder why they have
lava in the living room?
The planet will be here for a long, long, LONG time after we’re gone and it will heal itself, it will
cleanse itself cause that’s what it does. It’s a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover,
the earth will be renewed, and if it’s true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply
incorporate plastic into a new paradigm: The Earth plus Plastic. The Earth doesn’t share our prejudice
towards plastic. Plastic came out of the Earth! The Earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its
children. Could be the only reason the Earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place: it
wanted plastic for itself, didn’t know how to make it, needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old
philosophical question: “Why are we here?” PLASTIC!!!
So the plastic is here, our job is done, we can be phased out now, and I think that’s really started
already, don’t you? I mean, to be fair, the planet probably sees us as a mild threat; something to be
dealt with, and I’m sure the planet will defend itself in the manner of a large organism. Like a beehive
or an ant colony can muster a defence, I’m sure the planet will think of something.
What would you do if you were the planet trying to defend against this pesky, troublesome species?
Let’s see... what might... hmm... viruses! Viruses might be good. They seem vulnerable to viruses. And
uh... viruses are tricky; always mutating and forming new strains whenever a vaccine is developed.
Perhaps this first virus could be one that-that compromises the immune system of these creatures.
Perhaps a human immunodeficiency virus making them vulnerable to all sorts of other diseases and
infections that might come along and maybe it could be spread sexually, making them a little reluctant
to engage in the act of reproduction.
Well that’s a poetic note and it’s a start and I can dream can’t I? See, I don’t worry about the little
things... bees, trees, whales, snails. I think we’re part of a greater wisdom that we won’t ever
understand, a higher order. Call it what you want. You know what I call it? The big electron... the big
electron. It doesn’t punish, it doesn’t reward, it doesn’t judge at all. It just is and so are we... for a little
Entropy @ speed | 608 in a series

Going up the Country } currency Joe & the Fish.*
Turn the radio off. ) Reel big fish
Best of . ) Dead fish prophecy.
..* slight change of grammar for effect.
This is Pinecraft is a community of Amish in my town...

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Love their lifestyle but frankly that group there look a bit stiff in their upper lips.. dunno
Many come to my area in the winter...They come on charter buses or hire someone to drive a 12-passenger van...

They generally live in Ohio or Pennsylvania...

Many come into the liquor store and buy whiskey, rum, or the makings of Long Island Ice Tea...I once asked one of the men.."I thought you were not allowed to drink alcohol.” He replied, “We can once in awhile."..I said to him..”What happens in Pinecraft stays in Pinecraft"...

He thought it was so funny..

People are people Grand...generally they show who they are by their actions.
Sounds like a general good bunch of people. I wonder whats the criteria for a stranger to join?
They are good people...and, very hard working people too...

I think people have stereotypes of people...and tend to judge by that....

Many are in the construction industry. My late husband sub-contracted work out to many of them..Because he knew they did good work and they stood behind their work...
Very interesting bunch of people. Google tells me this more or less:
While it's unusual for those not raised in an Amish community to become Amish, there are no rules that prohibit newcomers. To become Amish, start by visiting a few communities to decide which one you would like to join and contact the leading bishop to gauge if you would be welcome.

The languages most commonly spoken by the Amish are Pennsylvania Dutch and English. Amish community members use Pennsylvania Dutch when conversing with each other in their community. English is only really used for communicating with outsiders.

I'm ok with Dutch, to a degree.grin
White beard and a grím face rolling on the floor laughing
Hope wife beating is not one lol.

(joking, I'll give them the benefit:))
Who knows life's a mystery. rolling on the floor laughing
Ever visit Cassadaga FLA?
I live down the road from Lillydale the worlds largest psychic center. Spiritualists own the land and rent it.
They winter in that town in FLA.
Like the circus did in Jupiter FLA.
Lately they have moved up the financial food chain with many more guests and speakers. I wonder what the FLA town is like if they have a lecture circuit there.

I liked the alcohol part I must admit.
'Sometimes' (they drink) was the answer ... haha drinking
Who doesn't, even if many deny it
Bad part of Amish is too many kids. I prefer the Menonites. They are not hypocrites. They use electricity in basic form and cars. They say god wouldnt have made it if not to free them up to have more time for prayer. Amish use the English's phone and cars to haul them around.scold
I respect any group who is true to their beliefs, but cast an eye on those who say one thing and then warp it to allow it.
Goerge Carlin said a ton of truths. Wish he was still around. I look at extinctions as nature deciding something is not viable. I have no issue with bringing back mammoths or dodos or pigeons. Man ate them all!frustrated Nature saw they had reached a dead end and no other forms of animals or plants could make it with them. So destroyed all but a few like sharks and crocs.
Nature will not allow any species to become dominant and destroy her earth. So watch it humans and dont' think she gives a darn if you like it or not.tongue
I do not know the breeding habits of the Amish..not my business.

As for Mennonites, my son-in-law's father was raised as a Mennonite. He left the church when he turned 18.

A few years after that, his father left the church.

They still attend church..just are not of the Mennonite faith.

I can only say, that they have showed me with their actions, that they have good hearts. They are wonderful grandparents to my grandchildren, and that is all that matters to me.

They also accept my son..they treat him with kindness...and my daughter’s mother-in-law knows he loves her homemade chicken salad....She always makes it for him, when she knows he is going to be back in his hometown...

We judge people too much...

Just my opinion., I think the protestors who you call hypocrites are doing precisely that - watching our dominance and that we don't destroy her Earth.

Perhaps the inconsistency is yours. hmmm
The hard core protesters are there merely for their own personal financial gain from the so called philanthropists (globalists) amongst other things.
What's the difference between a hard core protester and a...umm...soft protester?

How do you earn money from protesting? I just had police jump out of a van and take my photo. dunno

How do you find out what protesters are thinking and what their motivations are, other than what they've written on a placard to let you know?

Is it cash in hand work? Only that would be a bit cheeky if you want the governent to invest in fossil fuel alternatives.

hmmm giggle
You will never see the likes of an Al Gore protesting. The same way you never saw the Beatles doing it.
The ones on the street are the POOR DELUDED DUPES or the paid BLM/ANTIFA managed ones.\
I know both the FBI and MI5 have embedded people amongst protest groups.
FBI Informant Created One Of Largest Nazi Groups In American History

An FBI informant cofounded one of the largest and oldest neo-Nazi organizations in U.S. history: the National Socialist Movement, a group connected to numerous crimes and violent events, including the deadly 2017 Charlottesville “Unite the Right” rally, according to previously unpublicized records reviewed by Headline USA.

The documents—a trove of FBI memos, affidavits and court records that this publication has dubbed the “Fed Files”—further indicate that the NSM allegedly had informants in prominent positions throughout much of its nearly 50-year history.

Once known as the “Hollywood Nazis” for its flamboyant demonstrations and crude propaganda, the NSM has also been accused of being co-opted by the FBI in a lawsuit filed by a former member who is now in prison.

Multiple current and former NSM members denied any affiliation with the FBI or law enforcement.
Trump is AMISH!
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