Gender Options

The Children’s commissioner in the UK has been asking children as young as 13 to describe their gender.

This is the list they can choose from:- (Daily Mail)
Girl or Boy
Male or Female
Trans-Girl: Someone has or transitioning from male to female.
Trans-Boy: Transitioning from female to male.
Agender: No gender identity or neutral identity.
Androgynous: Partly male and female, of indeterminate sex.
Bi-Gender: Those experiencing two gender identities, either at the same time or varying.
Non-Binary: Describes those who don’t feel exclusively male or female.
Demi-Boy: Partly male regardless of birth gender.
Demi-Girl: Female version of above.
GenderQueer: Those who don’t subscribe to conventional gender distinctions.
Gender-Nonconforming: Those who don’t follow how they should look or act based on their birth gender.
Tri-Gender: Shifts between Male, Female or genderless.
All Genders: Someone who identifies as all possible genders.
Intersex: Someone with genetic or hormonal features that are typical of male and female.

Do you think young kids should be choosing their gender?
What are you?
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I can handle all comments/jokes also, as long as the person can handle them back, and not take them personally.

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Molly..Rock on Rock Chick! (sorry should I say Rock on non-specific gender person?) to be politically correct.



Doing a bit more research, an example of what I deem peer and in this case mommy pressure, Gwen Stefanis son has a makeup and dresses like a girl, pictures show he was dressed up like that as a baby.

Is some of this due to the parents wanting a different gendered baby and therefore dressing a boy up as a girl, and giving it solely girly toys OK?.....I think not. ( I wont post pics as her boy/girl is a minor)
Map, parents trying to change the gender of their children by dressing them in as the different gender is a sign of problems with the parents. So it is a different issue.

I am sure the kids aren't given the list and told to number them 1-16 or however many there is.

I think that it will just be good for kids to know that what they are feeling is an actually recognised thing, and that they are not the only ones in the world that feel, and are, like this.
Molly yes but how many ??? to then involve a whole class.

From how i felt as kid=====I now know it was because of racial biggots, did not need to feel everyone was against me at all. All kids growing up feel strange about something you get past it and grow or it continues and you do something about it. Many kids feel suicical sadley for many a reason in later years they will understand it for what it was,. Todays society seems to make a big deal of every emotion thats all.hug
Red, if somebody doesn't have that issue, they will just ignore it and carry on with their lives.
But for those it does affect, it being recognised will totally change their lives.
Yes, there are many issues out there, and many affect children as well.
Should people not be informed about depression, just because it only affects a minority of the population?
Cal, Yes I agree with you 100%

Red, Lots of things are changing, I suppose we do have to conform or be labeled "fuddy duddies". With regards to the form, I think the kids would have been given it to complete individually and not in front of a class.

Molly, Yes so many things will affect children from gender and depression to illness, I suppose kids are people too.

Long gone are the days when kids played outside in the mud after dark, boys wore blue, girls wore pink, now its iphones and god knows what else.
For my part, my only slight issue is with the language, NOT the sentiment.
The reasoning for it I get: It's basically cultural Marxism: Change the language, to change behaviour and eventually society. It's a good thing. People should be who they are. of course!!, BUT how much does everyone else need to participate in your self image?, especially under 13.
Is it appropriate to substitute the two gender biological reality for an amorphous mess of definitions that it's up to the individual to come up with. Maybe it is I dunno .
Again, speaking purely from the point of view of pronouns, languages move towards simplicity over time, and these new words could easily just be replaced by 'they'. In the context in which it's used, it doesn't need to imply a plurality.

Ultimately anyone who worries about the right term to use or the right box to put someone in to respect their identity is a kind tolerant person, but our obsession with being PC at all times is excessive.

If I were a trans girl, I wouldn't give a hoot if someone referred to me as a he but rather how he treated me a person.
Map, my mother tried to make me wear dresses and pink...at her peril!

She gave up when I was old enough to fight back

I'd say I was about 6 laugh
*correction. How 'zie' treated me as a person. Shame on me.blushing
But Molly....your poor mum.....doh .......us women just love to dress our daughters in the prettiest dresses....make them super sweet...
Having said that....my oh so cutey daughter....just never looks feminine.....doh ...now that she takes absolutely no notice of anything i say....moping
I had a pink schoolbag when I was twelve. It was character building. laugh
Thats just it Map, my joke wasnt personally directed at anyone so I dont see what all the fuss was about but got slated for it!doh
Cal,my mother was very disappointed too laugh

She didn't get the girly girl princess she wanted

She got a tree-climbing tomboy instead grin
^^^Sounds reasonable thumbs up
OgGoDeo wave Its been a while!

Perfectly said!hug
Hi Map...ah, thank you....I don't venture into these hallowed halls very often!..lol!...wave
Molly, I know that you like to dress up, but I imagine NO pink dresses.
Yes, of course Molly....I should have clarified that I meant if and when the day ever came in the future.....thank's for clarification.....
This is very confusing for kids...doh

I'm female...XX...straight onedancing
Crazy, Thats the point!, I am a male simple!, But do agree with whats been commented that things are changing in some countries.

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Map,

my son is 11 years old and he knows nothing about other genders except male and female...he noticed some males wearing wigs and make-ups and acting funny when we were in Philippines though...made him giggle but I don't think he fully understood what it means...another gender that's not in his vocabulary yetsigh I prefer to keep it that way for now...he will understand someday...he's like me so I'm pretty confident he will have a very open mind and understanding to things and people around him.
its ridiculous its sad how people conform to things. do these things exist yes... but kids are at a stage where they not yet comfortable with there own skin and finding out who they are ...also experimenting its like asking a kid if they are happy with certain things how they look and what they are unhappy with as kids or teens is something they would like as they age like if you gave a teenage girl or an oppuritunity to change there looks they would because they are still growing mentally and emotionally i wanted a nose job cause i thought it was big and had an image of what i thought i was and thats why they are children they dont know whats the best for them ...meaning we dont know ourselves at that age and its disgusting to where people half to subect there kids because government,schools think they know whats best for everyones children. we dont know know whats best for us till we are in our 30s and we have kids making there own decisions already when they are in the most awkward and confusing stage in there life its a scary world.
being open minded and tolerant is one thing but to expose children to so much of this when they should be learning skills in school is disgusting but to let children make decisions for themselves is dumb and becsause a kid thinks they are something at that age doesnt make it so i think the adults are the sick ones for possibly brain washing a child to making them think are something they might not be, if they are they are but they are crossing the line we have this same issue going on here in the states.doh
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