Wow_FactorOPLondon, Greater London, England UK3,698 posts
Quereteringo: Israel only exists because it stole land by force and does not allow those people to come back. It also exists because of the intensive Israeli lobbying in Washington, DC and the fact that no American politician can say anything against Israel and be elected to office.
Israel continues to occupy and build on land that does not belong to them. Money and might do not make right.
Palestinians have rights to live decent lives, too.
Israel never stole any land.
Israel is not an occupier - what land do you think it is occupying?
The Palestinians as you call them in Israel are pretty happy apart from the few who would like to see the Jews out. Most Palestinians are begging Israel not to relinquish East Jerusalem as they do not want to be under Islamic rule, prefering Israeli rule where they have full rights.
Quereteringo: Israel only exists because it stole land by force and does not allow those people to come back. It also exists because of the intensive Israeli lobbying in Washington, DC and the fact that no American politician can say anything against Israel and be elected to office.
Israel continues to occupy and build on land that does not belong to them. Money and might do not make right.
Palestinians have rights to live decent lives, too.
Albertaghost: We are not in Ireland right now but rather on a thread about Israel hence it is you who are not minding your own business. That the majority of Irish posters on this and many other threads range from outright hostility to Israel all the way to advocating a nuclear strike on same shows more about your country than any article written by an Irishman ever could!
Well why dont you stick to talking about Israel then. You made statements about Ireland and the irish that were not anything to do with what the posters had said or not said on here. When somneone knocks my country i got a problem with that.
Wow_Factor: On the contrary, the continuous threads against Israel are disgusting on so many levels. As the OP I have a right to hide posts that are inflammatory to thread or abusive. The Jews have a 4000 year history of living in Israel and the land was offered to both the arabs and the Jews - and as you know the Jews accepted but the arabs wanted war instead, believing they could win the war. The arabs are treated well in Israel and have full rights.
I have read all the hidden posts, some of which I found disgusting and I have read the posts you decided to leave, some of which I found disgusting, but I did notice a theme in the hidden posts and a completely different theme in the posts you have left. Says a lot to me.
In the words of the great philospher Derek of Ye Olde Kent Road
Wow_FactorOPLondon, Greater London, England UK3,698 posts
vinny1967: I have read all the hidden posts, some of which I found disgusting and I have read the posts you decided to leave, some of which I found disgusting, but I did notice a theme in the hidden posts and a completely different theme in the posts you have left. Says a lot to me.
In the words of the great philospher Derek of Ye Olde Kent Road
Bonjour
Disgusting posts in your view - but no comment about the attacks I posted that Israel has suffered tonight. So that says a lot to me too whereby you attack the posters but not the serious state of affairs, and the fact that time and time again utter filth is spewed against Israel on these forums. And a good night to you too.
Wow_Factor: Disgusting posts in your view - but no comment about the attacks I posted that Israel has suffered tonight. So that says a lot to me too whereby you attack the posters but not the serious state of affairs, and the fact that time and time again utter filth is spewed against Israel on these forums. And a good night to you too.
I have adressed the serious state of affairs Wow. I see fault in both sides and innocents being killed. I see a country under constant threat. I see a country bullying all around them. I see Palestinian people being coralled.
And I can see reasons for all this.
But until people are willing to engage properly and sit down and discuss the future and the issues on both sides of this debate there will be no peace, and the innocent palestinians that have been displaced from their homes deserve better IMO.
Wow_FactorOPLondon, Greater London, England UK3,698 posts
vinny1967: I have adressed the serious state of affairs Wow. I see fault in both sides and innocents being killed. I see a country under constant threat. I see a country bullying all around them. I see Palestinian people being coralled.
And I can see reasons for all this.
But until people are willing to engage properly and sit down and discuss the future and the issues on both sides of this debate there will be no peace, and the innocent palestinians that have been displaced from their homes deserve better IMO.
I would love to know how Israel is bullying all around them and the arabs are being coralled. Do you honestly know about the situation there - do you take a lot of interest in it at all? Israel is willing to engage but even to this very day the PA are gloryfying terrorists and the PA leader has no intention of making peace with Israel. Until the hate from the arabs turns into love then maybe there can be some progress but unfortunately the Charter of PA and Hamas is still to destroy the Jews.
Wow_FactorOPLondon, Greater London, England UK3,698 posts
vinny1967: Any chance of taking this comment with you Indy They were peoples lives you were referring to and the OP decided to leave your comment cause she didnt find it disgusting. Talk about blinkered.
The person he was replying to was lying and hadn't a clue!
Wow_Factor: I would love to know how Israel is bullying all around them and the arabs are being coralled. Do you honestly know about the situation there - do you take a lot of interest in it at all? Israel is willing to engage but even to this very day the PA are gloryfying terrorists and the PA leader has no intention of making peace with Israel. Until the hate from the arabs turns into love then maybe there can be some progress but unfortunately the Charter of PA and Hamas is still to destroy the Jews.
How did you know I was referring to Israel Good guess though.
I am no lover of Hamas or their ilk Wow. What they are trying to do is disgusting and should be stopped, but not at whatever means necessary. Despite the videos you post and the arguments you make I don't believe Israel has any right to displace people from their homes, take their land and control their imports. You mention hate from the Arabs, but I see hate on both sides. But thats just me.
Wow_Factor: The person he was replying to was lying and hadn't a clue!
And that makes the post all right
Joking about war being a game and the number of peoples lives being taken and kept score on is digusting in my world but obviously not on your thread Wow.
I understand why You wouldn't find it disgusting though.
Wow_FactorOPLondon, Greater London, England UK3,698 posts
vinny1967: How did you know I was referring to Israel Good guess though.
I am no lover of Hamas or their ilk Wow. What they are trying to do is disgusting and should be stopped, but not at whatever means necessary. Despite the videos you post and the arguments you make I don't believe Israel has any right to displace people from their homes, take their land and control their imports. You mention hate from the Arabs, but I see hate on both sides. But thats just me.
Well I tried to see if you meant it any other way, but no, I guess you meant Israel.
You need to remember Gaza is in a state of war with Israel - look at the rockets fired into Israel this evening - into the very city where my nephew lives. You have no idea what it is like being bomarded daily with rockets. Israel gave Gaza back and was not intending to control imports but of course Hamas changed all that when it started to bombard Israel with rockets.
is it just a dream ?? what a great little country it could be if both sides joined together and lived in harmony, best of both worlds, tourist would flock there for sure,
i believe most arabs just want to raise there familys in safety and prosper, just like us, but what about the rest ?? how to make peace with people who have one agenda and one only to kill and keep killing till none are left or are driven into the sea, it will never end both sides are right both sides are wrong both sides have made mistakes
vinny1967: Any chance of taking this comment with you Indy They were peoples lives you were referring to and the OP decided to leave your comment cause she didnt find it disgusting. Talk about blinkered.
Wow_Factor: Well I tried to see if you meant it any other way, but no, I guess you meant Israel.
You need to remember Gaza is in a state of war with Israel - look at the rockets fired into Israel this evening - into the very city where my nephew lives. You have no idea what it is like being bomarded daily with rockets. Israel gave Gaza back and was not intending to control imports but of course Hamas changed all that when it started to bombard Israel with rockets.
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Israel continues to occupy and build on land that does not belong to them. Money and might do not make right.
Palestinians have rights to live decent lives, too.
Israel never stole any land.
Israel is not an occupier - what land do you think it is occupying?
The Palestinians as you call them in Israel are pretty happy apart from the few who would like to see the Jews out. Most Palestinians are begging Israel not to relinquish East Jerusalem as they do not want to be under Islamic rule, prefering Israeli rule where they have full rights.
I think you are another one who hasn't a clue.