THREAD IN SUPPORT OF ISRAEL (677)
Wow_Factor: Wrong again Mister Guzman. An original poster is unable to delete posts. The posts have been deleted by CS Administration due to violations. No need to apologise as you probably are new here. I am a very patient person as everyone will testify!
I don't believe in casuality.
About your patient and bigotry comments are not necessary.
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Hamas Breaks Its Ceasefire 14 Times in 24 Hours
Hamas breaks its declared ceasefire 14 tines in 24 hours. Israel says the truce is one-sided and IDF continues to stop missile launches.
Published: 22/08/11, 12:06 PM
Hamas has repeated its past performance of declaring a ceasefire and immediately breaking it, firing more than a dozen more rockets and mortar shells on southern Israel Sunday night and Monday morning.
One rocket in the pre-dawn hours hit a building in the Eshkol region, adjacent to Gaza, causing damage but no injuries.
The Israeli Security Cabinet Monday morning stated that the ceasefire is one-sided and that the IDF will continue to attack to stop missile launches. It added that Israel will respond to any more rocket and mortar shell attacks with “pinpoint” retaliation.
The government decision precludes a full-scale ground operation into Gaza, which the opposition Kadima party has demanded.
Hamas declared the truce would go into effect Sunday night after the worst round of terrorism against Israel since the counterterrorist Operation Cast Lead campaign in the winter of 2008-2009.
"Hamas is trying to draw Israel into fighting in to weaken its power in the international arena in preparation for the Palestinian statehood decree in September," a senior diplomat told Army Radio. "This way Hamas will be seen as leading the way for the establishment of a Palestinian state."
He said that Hamas wants an escalation despite its ceasefire announcement. The ensuing missile attacks on Israel Sunday night and Monday morning may have been an attempt to draw into an escalation.
If so, it did not work.
A large-scale military operation in Gaza, one month before the United Nations discusses the Arab League petition to recognize the Palestinian Authority as in independent country, could play into PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas’s hands as a propaganda tool against Israel.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/147069
Hamas breaks its declared ceasefire 14 tines in 24 hours. Israel says the truce is one-sided and IDF continues to stop missile launches.
Published: 22/08/11, 12:06 PM
Hamas has repeated its past performance of declaring a ceasefire and immediately breaking it, firing more than a dozen more rockets and mortar shells on southern Israel Sunday night and Monday morning.
One rocket in the pre-dawn hours hit a building in the Eshkol region, adjacent to Gaza, causing damage but no injuries.
The Israeli Security Cabinet Monday morning stated that the ceasefire is one-sided and that the IDF will continue to attack to stop missile launches. It added that Israel will respond to any more rocket and mortar shell attacks with “pinpoint” retaliation.
The government decision precludes a full-scale ground operation into Gaza, which the opposition Kadima party has demanded.
Hamas declared the truce would go into effect Sunday night after the worst round of terrorism against Israel since the counterterrorist Operation Cast Lead campaign in the winter of 2008-2009.
"Hamas is trying to draw Israel into fighting in to weaken its power in the international arena in preparation for the Palestinian statehood decree in September," a senior diplomat told Army Radio. "This way Hamas will be seen as leading the way for the establishment of a Palestinian state."
He said that Hamas wants an escalation despite its ceasefire announcement. The ensuing missile attacks on Israel Sunday night and Monday morning may have been an attempt to draw into an escalation.
If so, it did not work.
A large-scale military operation in Gaza, one month before the United Nations discusses the Arab League petition to recognize the Palestinian Authority as in independent country, could play into PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas’s hands as a propaganda tool against Israel.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/147069
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NEW DAY - NEW START
LET'S GET BACK TO THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD WHICH IS IN SUPPORT OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL, AND HERE ARE A COUPLE OF INTERESTING CLIPS TO VIEW.
IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS PLEASE ASK AS I AM PLEASED TO EXPLAIN THE FACTS ABOUT ISRAEL TO THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE FACTS, BUT THOSE WHO FOLLOW THE ANTI-ISRAEL CROWD LIKE SHEEP I HAVE NO TIME FOR.
LET'S GET BACK TO THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD WHICH IS IN SUPPORT OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL, AND HERE ARE A COUPLE OF INTERESTING CLIPS TO VIEW.
IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS PLEASE ASK AS I AM PLEASED TO EXPLAIN THE FACTS ABOUT ISRAEL TO THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE FACTS, BUT THOSE WHO FOLLOW THE ANTI-ISRAEL CROWD LIKE SHEEP I HAVE NO TIME FOR.
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Wow_Factor: So I have been on CS for exactly one year and time and time again I have seen threads started vilifying (to put it mildly) the State of Israel.
It is very rare a thread supporting Israel is started, so I thought this would be a good idea to start one.
ISRAEL HAS EVERY LEGAL RIGHT TO EXIST IN PEACE AND SECURITY WITHOUT THREATS FROM HER NEIGHBOURS, AND ISRAEL IS HERE TO STAY, WON'T GO AWAY AND MORE AND MORE JEWS ARE SETTLING THERE. ISRAEL HAS NO ANIMOSITY WITH PEOPLE WHO ABIDE BY THE RULES OF COMMON DECENCY AND LAWS.
It is very rare a thread supporting Israel is started, so I thought this would be a good idea to start one.
ISRAEL HAS EVERY LEGAL RIGHT TO EXIST IN PEACE AND SECURITY WITHOUT THREATS FROM HER NEIGHBOURS, AND ISRAEL IS HERE TO STAY, WON'T GO AWAY AND MORE AND MORE JEWS ARE SETTLING THERE. ISRAEL HAS NO ANIMOSITY WITH PEOPLE WHO ABIDE BY THE RULES OF COMMON DECENCY AND LAWS.
You should have put a big "IMO" after that statment because it is an opinion after all. Plenty could and would disagree with all of it or certain parts of it.
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Straightdown: You should have put a big "IMO" after that statment because it is an opinion after all. Plenty could and would disagree with all of it or certain parts of it.
They do, but unfortunately they can't say way because they don't know the history or facts in detail and often they admit it themselves.
So tell me, what it is about Israel's legitimate right to exist that you don't agree with.
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Wow_Factor: They do, but unfortunately they can't say way because they don't know the history or facts in detail and often they admit it themselves.
So tell me, what it is about Israel's legitimate right to exist that you don't agree with.
So tell me, what it is about Israel's legitimate right to exist that you don't agree with.
Oh I agree Israel has a right to exist. But I have issues in the way the state was set up. I have issues the way the Palestinian / Arab people were treated then and are treated now by Israel. And just like Israel has now a right to exist I think the Palestinian people have a right to a homeland.
Also only a blind and deaf person would not agree that Israel have got up to some shady things in the past and in the present and have committed murder as a state many times. Thats a fact! All Western governments would agree on that bar The USA...And we all know they turn a blind eye.
If there is ever to the peace in the Middle East both sides have to realise that neither of them are innocent in the conflict and both are guilty of many awful acts. They have to find middle ground. JMO
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Straightdown: Oh I agree Israel has a right to exist. But I have issues in the way the state was set up. I have issues the way the Palestinian / Arab people were treated then and are treated now by Israel. And just like Israel has now a right to exist I think the Palestinian people have a right to a homeland.
Also only a blind and deaf person would not agree that Israel have got up to some shady things in the past and in the present and have committed murder as a state many times. Thats a fact! All Western governments would agree on that bar The USA...And we all know they turn a blind eye.
If there is ever to the peace in the Middle East both sides have to realise that neither of them are innocent in the conflict and both are guilty of many awful acts. They have to find middle ground. JMO
Also only a blind and deaf person would not agree that Israel have got up to some shady things in the past and in the present and have committed murder as a state many times. Thats a fact! All Western governments would agree on that bar The USA...And we all know they turn a blind eye.
If there is ever to the peace in the Middle East both sides have to realise that neither of them are innocent in the conflict and both are guilty of many awful acts. They have to find middle ground. JMO
Thank you for replying.
The Arabs were offered a part of Palestine as it was called then but refused the land while the Jews accepted it. They have only been wanting a state since 1967 - before then they weren't interested in having a state. The arabs were told to leave Palestine by their leaders so they would not be caught up in a supposed blood-bath when the arab armies invaded the newly formed state of Israel in 1948.
Israel has peace with Jordan and Egypt at the moment. Other countries are still in a state of war. Until all countries drop the hate from their charter and are willing to let Israel exist in peace then Israel has to safeguard her interests.
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Here are many people who deny the right of Israel to exist and, as the UN.
We simply say that Palestine, too.
Every day hundreds of thousands of Palestinian workers entering Israel to work as laborers, because they can not live there?
You prefer they are be armed at the other side of the border, or unarmed in Israel?
Or if everyone wants is to stop fighting for a few feet of land, give Israeli passport and give them the right to work, travel and live on their land. Do any proposal if mine are stupid.
Only a few on this site are denied all rights, without suggesting any kind of solution.
We simply say that Palestine, too.
Every day hundreds of thousands of Palestinian workers entering Israel to work as laborers, because they can not live there?
You prefer they are be armed at the other side of the border, or unarmed in Israel?
Or if everyone wants is to stop fighting for a few feet of land, give Israeli passport and give them the right to work, travel and live on their land. Do any proposal if mine are stupid.
Only a few on this site are denied all rights, without suggesting any kind of solution.
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Wow_Factor: Thank you for replying.
The Arabs were offered a part of Palestine as it was called then but refused the land while the Jews accepted it. They have only been wanting a state since 1967 - before then they weren't interested in having a state. The arabs were told to leave Palestine by their leaders so they would not be caught up in a supposed blood-bath when the arab armies invaded the newly formed state of Israel in 1948.
Israel has peace with Jordan and Egypt at the moment. Other countries are still in a state of war. Until all countries drop the hate from their charter and are willing to let Israel exist in peace then Israel has to safeguard her interests.
The Arabs were offered a part of Palestine as it was called then but refused the land while the Jews accepted it. They have only been wanting a state since 1967 - before then they weren't interested in having a state. The arabs were told to leave Palestine by their leaders so they would not be caught up in a supposed blood-bath when the arab armies invaded the newly formed state of Israel in 1948.
Israel has peace with Jordan and Egypt at the moment. Other countries are still in a state of war. Until all countries drop the hate from their charter and are willing to let Israel exist in peace then Israel has to safeguard her interests.
You see that's the problem. You are convinced you are 100% right and the problem is with the Arab and Palestinian people and they are convinced they are right and Israel is the problem.
Both sides have very legitimate gripes and concerns. Both sides have committed some awful acts. Neither side is innocent. And it's people that can't see that and find middle ground are the problem. There will never be peace as long as both sides don't realise they are 50% of the problem!!!
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Straightdown: You see that's the problem. You are convinced you are 100% right and the problem is with the Arab and Palestinian people and they are convinced they are right and Israel is the problem.
Both sides have very legitimate gripes and concerns. Both sides have committed some awful acts. Neither side is innocent. And it's people that can't see that and find middle ground are the problem. There will never be peace as long as both sides don't realise they are 50% of the problem!!!
Both sides have very legitimate gripes and concerns. Both sides have committed some awful acts. Neither side is innocent. And it's people that can't see that and find middle ground are the problem. There will never be peace as long as both sides don't realise they are 50% of the problem!!!
Ok, so what compromises do you think should be made then?
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Straightdown: Oh I agree Israel has a right to exist. But I have issues in the way the state was set up. I have issues the way the Palestinian / Arab people were treated then and are treated now by Israel. And just like Israel has now a right to exist I think the Palestinian people have a right to a homeland.
Also only a blind and deaf person would not agree that Israel have got up to some shady things in the past and in the present and have committed murder as a state many times. Thats a fact! All Western governments would agree on that bar The USA...And we all know they turn a blind eye.
If there is ever to the peace in the Middle East both sides have to realise that neither of them are innocent in the conflict and both are guilty of many awful acts. They have to find middle ground. JMO
Also only a blind and deaf person would not agree that Israel have got up to some shady things in the past and in the present and have committed murder as a state many times. Thats a fact! All Western governments would agree on that bar The USA...And we all know they turn a blind eye.
If there is ever to the peace in the Middle East both sides have to realise that neither of them are innocent in the conflict and both are guilty of many awful acts. They have to find middle ground. JMO
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Wow_Factor: Ok, so what compromises do you think should be made then?
Well thats the billion dollar question isn't it. There will have to be many of them on both sides. Just like in Ireland old mindsets have to be left behind. When both sides sit down they have to have open minds and everything must be on the table. They have to stop harping on about the past and move forward.
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Straightdown: Well thats the billion dollar question isn't it. There will have to be many of them on both sides. Just like in Ireland old mindsets have to be left behind. When both sides sit down they have to have open minds and everything must be on the table. They have to stop harping on about the past and move forward.
what sort of compromise do you suggest,what sort of Middleground exist between my Desire to live,and another Guy's wish to kill me!read the Charters of Hamas,PA and Hezbollah,then come up with solutions!
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GUZMAN1: Here are many people who deny the right of Israel to exist and, as the UN.
We simply say that Palestine, too.
Every day hundreds of thousands of Palestinian workers entering Israel to work as laborers, because they can not live there?
You prefer they are be armed at the other side of the border, or unarmed in Israel?
Or if everyone wants is to stop fighting for a few feet of land, give Israeli passport and give them the right to work, travel and live on their land. Do any proposal if mine are stupid.
Only a few on this site are denied all rights, without suggesting any kind of solution.
They had their Chance in'48 along with Israel under Resolution 181!We simply say that Palestine, too.
Every day hundreds of thousands of Palestinian workers entering Israel to work as laborers, because they can not live there?
You prefer they are be armed at the other side of the border, or unarmed in Israel?
Or if everyone wants is to stop fighting for a few feet of land, give Israeli passport and give them the right to work, travel and live on their land. Do any proposal if mine are stupid.
Only a few on this site are denied all rights, without suggesting any kind of solution.
The Arab answer was No,and War!
Those Workers aren't Israeli Citizens!
They are under the Jurisdiction of the PA!
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Straightdown: Well thats the billion dollar question isn't it. There will have to be many of them on both sides. Just like in Ireland old mindsets have to be left behind. When both sides sit down they have to have open minds and everything must be on the table. They have to stop harping on about the past and move forward.
Have you seen my posts of how many rockets have been indiscriminantly been fired into Israel lately. Hamas declared a cease-fire yesterday when they realised they were in 'hot water' but the cease fire lasted just twenty minutes. Whereas Hamas attacks Israel defends. Hamas's official Charter is still to destroy Israel and they have no intention of changing that Charter one iota. So how can you expect Israel to accept its anialation willingly? The Palestinian Authority are not much better and are led by a Holocaust denier who even to this day glorifies the martyrs that have murdered innocent children, babies, the elderly, women and men. There are so many issues and the compromises have to come from Hamas and the Palestinian Authority. Israel has made more compromises that it should have done. Even today there are attacks in Israel by thugs and there are high security alerts on a continuous basis.
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Conrad73: They had their Chance in'48 along with Israel under Resolution 181!
The Arab answer was No,and War!
Those Workers aren't Israeli Citizens!
They are under the Jurisdiction of the PA!
The Arab answer was No,and War!
Those Workers aren't Israeli Citizens!
They are under the Jurisdiction of the PA!
And the occupation soldiers and settlers are established on land not their own, under what jurisdiction they are?
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Conrad73: what sort of compromise do you suggest,what sort of Middleground exist between my Desire to live,and another Guy's wish to kill me!
read the Charters of Hamas,PA and Hezbollah,then come up with solutions!
read the Charters of Hamas,PA and Hezbollah,then come up with solutions!
Thats the attitude that has the Middle East in the State it is. You are lumping all the blame on one side. You are convinced the Palestinian people are 100% to blame and Israel is whiter than white.
And that is why there will never be peace in The Middle East. And frankly I think a lot of people are happy with the war and don't want peace! You being one!
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Wow_Factor: Have you seen my posts of how many rockets have been indiscriminantly been fired into Israel lately. Hamas declared a cease-fire yesterday when they realised they were in 'hot water' but the cease fire lasted just twenty minutes. Whereas Hamas attacks Israel defends. Hamas's official Charter is still to destroy Israel and they have no intention of changing that Charter one iota. So how can you expect Israel to accept its anialation willingly? The Palestinian Authority are not much better and are led by a Holocaust denier who even to this day glorifies the martyrs that have murdered innocent children, babies, the elderly, women and men. There are so many issues and the compromises have to come from Hamas and the Palestinian Authority. Israel has made more compromises that it should have done. Even today there are attacks in Israel by thugs and there are high security alerts on a continuous basis.
And this is why there will never be peace!!!!! You say Israel only defends but hamas will say they are dfending themselves too. No point in trying to comprimise with some one of your mindset because you belive they are 100% of the problem.
You talk about children being murdered??? I am sure The Palestinian people could talk about the same thing! Many of their Children have been shot. Both Sides are committing terrible acts, both sides are to blame, both sides need to accept that. Obviously you are not in that place yet and that is the reason there will never be peace!
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Straightdown: Thats the attitude that has the Middle East in the State it is. You are lumping all the blame on one side. You are convinced the Palestinian people are 100% to blame and Israel is whiter than white.
And that is why there will never be peace in The Middle East. And frankly I think a lot of people are happy with the war and don't want peace! You being one!
so you consider your wish to live,and another's wish to kill you a mere difference of Opinion!And that is why there will never be peace in The Middle East. And frankly I think a lot of people are happy with the war and don't want peace! You being one!
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Anti-Israeli points of view are not allowed on US media, and apparently, not here, either.
You have posted only two posts since you joined CS. This one and your post on page 8 which has not been hidden at all saying the following which in fact is a lie:
Israel continues to occupy and build on land that does not belong to them. Money and might do not make right.
Palestinians have rights to live decent lives, too.