Conrad73: It is strategically located,and was used to fire into Israel! Syria might get part of it back,but definitely not the parts that can be used to create Mayhem!
Wow_FactorOPLondon, Greater London, England UK3,698 posts
arapaho: yes conrad i lnow where the golan heights are, not sure what your point is any way i dont see isreal ever giving it back and at this time dont see how they can,
the settlements... legal ? maybe they are maybe you are right its not the information we get, gaza was one... gone now the west bank is what we are told,
You see this is the trouble I have. People are ignorant about the situation. It is not always their fault and there is a lot of false proporganda out there. However I have a wealth of knowledge and proof at my disposal and am willing to have a conversation about anything that people have against Israel. People usually are like sheep and follow the rest without finding out for themselves. On occasions where some on the forums have spoken against Israel I have asked them why they thought like that and they say because everyone thinks like that!
The settlements which are basically just new-build houses I believe are build on just two per cent of Judea and Samaria's land.
Gaza was given back in August 2005 - I remember it well, seeing it live on Sky News for several hours. Jews took refuge in the synagogue but were forcibly dragged out by the Israeli army.
Still a few thousand of them are living in pre-fabricated huts and mobile homes and don't have permanent housing. That's not way for the Israeli government to treat them. Forcing them out of Gaza on condition of peace (but obviously there have been continous rockets from Gaza since Hamas came to power). Those Jews forced out of Gaza now need permanent homes. That is why there is a huge building programme of homes for them.
Wow_FactorOPLondon, Greater London, England UK3,698 posts
singin4U: AMEN They have every right to be there. Every successful civilation in history has had to protect itself from jealous neighbors who, instead of planting crops chose to steal the food the growers worked for. If Isreal's neighbors were to somehow remove Isreal, it would be back looking like a wasteland in a few short years. Isreal has flourished because they have evolved instead of still living in the dark ages. If Isreal's neighbors laid down their weapons there would be no more war. If Isreal laid down their weapons, there would be no Isreal!!
Absolutely! And Golda Meir (wonderful woman) stated that quote.
If we have a conflict whether Israel is a cruel country or not, or whether it has the right for settlements or not....... so I want to get an answer from u about.... what Israel is doing in Al Jolan, the syrian occupied land...... what Israel was doing in Sinaa in Egypt since 1976, why Israel attacked Egypt in 1956......
tell me also, why israel refused to have international UN troups between Israel and the Palestinians???? why Israel was not allowing the press to go inside and watch the conflicts, and the killings?????
If Israel is not a terrorist country, why they are hiding what they are doing against humanity concerning the palestines????
Israel is not a peaceful country, as u was mentioning. All troubles in the middle east were started and caused by this country. Jewich own the media , and it makes brain wasching for the people in the world. Just be honest here pls.
kindandmoral: If we have a conflict whether Israel is a cruel country or not, or whether it has the right for settlements or not....... so I want to get an answer from u about.... what Israel is doing in Al Jolan, the syrian occupied land...... what Israel was doing in Sinaa in Egypt since 1976, why Israel attacked Egypt in 1956......
tell me also, why israel refused to have international UN troups between Israel and the Palestinians???? why Israel was not allowing the press to go inside and watch the conflicts, and the killings?????
If Israel is not a terrorist country, why they are hiding what they are doing against humanity concerning the palestines????
kindandmoral: Israel is not a peaceful country, as u was mentioning. All troubles in the middle east were started and caused by this country. Jewich own the media , and it makes brain wasching for the people in the world. Just be honest here pls.
kindandmoral: If we have a conflict whether Israel is a cruel country or not, or whether it has the right for settlements or not....... so I want to get an answer from u about.... what Israel is doing in Al Jolan, the syrian occupied land...... what Israel was doing in Sinaa in Egypt since 1976, why Israel attacked Egypt in 1956......
tell me also, why israel refused to have international UN troups between Israel and the Palestinians???? why Israel was not allowing the press to go inside and watch the conflicts, and the killings?????
If Israel is not a terrorist country, why they are hiding what they are doing against humanity concerning the palestines????
Suez-Canal and Nasser ringing a bell? You have your timeline so screwed up,it is pitiful!
IbotaboDurban, KwaZulu-Natal South Africa110 posts
Wow_Factor: So I have been on CS for exactly one year and time and time again I have seen threads started vilifying (to put it mildly) the State of Israel.
It is very rare a thread supporting Israel is started, so I thought this would be a good idea to start one. ISRAEL HAS EVERY LEGAL RIGHT TO EXIST IN PEACE AND SECURITY WITHOUT THREATS FROM HER NEIGHBOURS, AND ISRAEL IS HERE TO STAY, WON'T GO AWAY AND MORE AND MORE JEWS ARE SETTLING THERE. ISRAEL HAS NO ANIMOSITY WITH PEOPLE WHO ABIDE BY THE RULES OF COMMON DECENCY AND LAWS.
Please read the book “the invitation of the Jewish people by Shlomo sand”. Israel it’s the only nation on earth where you get citizenship by your DNA, you can be born in china Peru or Senegal but is you have cetin blood then you are automatically a citizen of that country you never be or your father never saw. While in the same time if you were born in the country but you don’t have the chosen blood then you are not a citizen. Israel have nuclear and all kinds of weapons and did used them but yet don’t want anyone in the region to have the same.
IbotaboDurban, KwaZulu-Natal South Africa110 posts
Conrad73: Ibo,the sad little Thug calling all others Thug! You first need to learn Civil Discourse before anyone will debate you!
You are a sad example for an African! Ought to be ashamed of your Record here! And you have the nerve to talk Goldstone Report,which has been debunked?
And of course,you are also a Conspiracy-Theorist! You are anything but a Messenger!
You know when I said (kill the messenger and the message will die”, and here there are people who will come up with a personal attacks on me, so please talk on the subject and don’t attack me) I exactly was referring to you sad & cancer man. And your comment here is what I was talking about, you don’t know how to debate, you only have prejudice & ignorant, you are here because you are boring in your sad life psyche man, get life and leave me alone. If you can’t respond the subject without attacking someone and be personal then why you can’t get to hell?
Yes, Isreal has a right to survive and live in peace. They have not started one war, but, thank God, they finish wars. To those who have a problem with that, oh well. Isreal defends herself. And Isreal, just like every other nation, has a right to defend herself. All You Muslims out ther who hate them, I have 1 Question. How does it feel to not only be cowards and murderers, but to be a murderer of your relitives. YOU ARE BOTH CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM!!!!! I wonder how God will feel about you killing your brothers and sisters? If you fear Gods' wrath, AND ALL PEOPLE SHOULD, you would find other ways to settle differences. Until then I hope Isreal continues TO KICK YOUR ASSES!!!!!
bodleingGreater Manchester, England UK13,810 posts
looking121fryu: Yes, Isreal has a right to survive and live in peace. They have not started one war, but, thank God, they finish wars. To those who have a problem with that, oh well. Isreal defends herself. And Isreal, just like every other nation, has a right to defend herself. All You Muslims out ther who hate them, I have 1 Question. How does it feel to not only be cowards and murderers, but to be a murderer of your relitives. YOU ARE BOTH CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM!!!!! I wonder how God will feel about you killing your brothers and sisters? If you fear Gods' wrath, AND ALL PEOPLE SHOULD, you would find other ways to settle differences. Until then I hope Isreal continues TO KICK YOUR ASSES!!!!!
I don't really know enough about this conflict to comment on the op, but that doesn't mean I can't say,
"what a nasty post."
You serve your cause no good with words like that fella.
Muslems attacked the twin towers in NY. Nothing but civilians. No military or government officials. They targeted workers, women and children so they acted the same hateful, cowardly way as religions of the past. quote]
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Syria might get part of it back,but definitely not the parts that can be used to create Mayhem!
i agree...