THREAD IN SUPPORT OF ISRAEL (677)
Conrad73: you haven't been debating for months!
You have always been the Nitpicker and Hairsplitter!
Going behind the Armistice-Lines! Damn,that's a good one! You really do not have a CLEW!
You have always been the Nitpicker and Hairsplitter!
Going behind the Armistice-Lines! Damn,that's a good one! You really do not have a CLEW!
Don't you mean CLUE???? Again you start to use your emocicons when you don't have a response. You just throw some laughing men in and repeat what the last psoter said. You don't tell us why you think anything is so ridicioulas or funny cause you can't. You are not worth my time because you are very uneducated about world affairs, you are blinkered in your thinking and you get all your info from Wiki and pretend you are so knowledgeable. Quite sad really!
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Albertaghost: Bull!!!!!!!
Nowhere has anybody stated Palestinians should not have a homeland other than as per UN Resolution 181.
Do your homework and don't lie!
Nowhere has anybody stated Palestinians should not have a homeland other than as per UN Resolution 181.
Do your homework and don't lie!
DO YOU READ? I QUOTED RAYfromUSA. I repplyed him, these wasn't my words.
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Straightdown: Don't you mean CLUE???? Again you start to use your emocicons when you don't have a response. You just throw some laughing men in and repeat what the last psoter said. You don't tell us why you think anything is so ridicioulas or funny cause you can't. You are not worth my time because you are very uneducated about world affairs, you are blinkered in your thinking and you get all your info from Wiki and pretend you are so knowledgeable. Quite sad really!
nope,I meant Clew!
You style hasn't changed a bit,hey Keeney!
Hard as heck to do,you know!
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Albertaghost: Yes. Sad indeed. The gang of four (Silverbirch, Paldi, Guzzman, Chris, Mikeygr, RayfromUSA ..... and the odd anti Israel poster who has no klew) seem to become befuddled when presented with facts and wish they would present some.
So, while we await same, how are things in Switzerland, good weather this time of year?
So, while we await same, how are things in Switzerland, good weather this time of year?
HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW!!!!!
VERY SUNNY, I THINK, LIKE CANADA!!!!!!!
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Conrad73: How exactly is Israel stealing land? They gave up the entire Egyptian Sinai to Egypt for peace, that they won in a defensive war.
They gave up every inch of Gaza in the hopes for peace, and got Hamas and rockets instead of peace.
The Germans started and lost WW 2. Russia and Poland have 'occupied' their land since 1945.
Israel was attacked at its birth in 1948, and many times since. Why are they occupying, when Russia and Poland are not? Let's be consistent. Had the Arabs not attacked, they would not be whining now. Why is there a different standard always for Israel and its little sliver of land (less than NJ) that they have developed and made bloom.
Israel accepted 850,000 Jewish refugees from Arab lands after 1948. Why haven't the Arabs with all their oil wealth and land, not absorbed the "Palestinians"? 98% of the so-called "Palestinians" are under their own rule..(need source)Only Palestine-Nation(s) right now would be Israel and Jordan!
The rest have rejected nationhood,by rejecting Res.181!
Actually the Jews of Palestine were called Palestinians until the Founding of Israel!
In 1963 Arafat hijacked the name "Palestinian" as he did so many other things!
Some go even further:
"And regarding the land that was invaded. What land was that? British mandate? Ottoman empire? Study some old maps. The "palestinians" never had any land. There weren't even any people called palestinians before arafat invented them. In the british mandate of palestine there lived jewish palestinians, arab palestinians and christian palestinians. The descendants of the arab and christian palestinians that didn't step aside to let the arab invading army do "their job" back in 1948 still live in israel with full democratic rights and parliament representatives. (Probably the only place in the middle east where arabs enjoy full democratic rights.)
Dont' just buy into the leftist propaganda. Study some history!"(need Source)Most of the above comes from comments to News-Articles
They gave up every inch of Gaza in the hopes for peace, and got Hamas and rockets instead of peace.
The Germans started and lost WW 2. Russia and Poland have 'occupied' their land since 1945.
Israel was attacked at its birth in 1948, and many times since. Why are they occupying, when Russia and Poland are not? Let's be consistent. Had the Arabs not attacked, they would not be whining now. Why is there a different standard always for Israel and its little sliver of land (less than NJ) that they have developed and made bloom.
Israel accepted 850,000 Jewish refugees from Arab lands after 1948. Why haven't the Arabs with all their oil wealth and land, not absorbed the "Palestinians"? 98% of the so-called "Palestinians" are under their own rule..(need source)Only Palestine-Nation(s) right now would be Israel and Jordan!
The rest have rejected nationhood,by rejecting Res.181!
Actually the Jews of Palestine were called Palestinians until the Founding of Israel!
In 1963 Arafat hijacked the name "Palestinian" as he did so many other things!
Some go even further:
"And regarding the land that was invaded. What land was that? British mandate? Ottoman empire? Study some old maps. The "palestinians" never had any land. There weren't even any people called palestinians before arafat invented them. In the british mandate of palestine there lived jewish palestinians, arab palestinians and christian palestinians. The descendants of the arab and christian palestinians that didn't step aside to let the arab invading army do "their job" back in 1948 still live in israel with full democratic rights and parliament representatives. (Probably the only place in the middle east where arabs enjoy full democratic rights.)
Dont' just buy into the leftist propaganda. Study some history!"(need Source)Most of the above comes from comments to News-Articles
And why not the Chinese?
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Conrad73: nope,I meant Clew!
You style hasn't changed a bit,hey Keeney!
Hard as heck to do,you know!
You style hasn't changed a bit,hey Keeney!
Hard as heck to do,you know!
Again emoticons and no real rebuttal or debate from a man who is uneducated and has to rely on Wiki for his opinions. Sad. Really sad.
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Conrad73: nope,I meant Clew!
You style hasn't changed a bit,hey Keeney!
Hard as heck to do,you know!
You style hasn't changed a bit,hey Keeney!
Hard as heck to do,you know!
Again emoticons and no real rebuttal or debate from a man who is uneducated and has to rely on Wiki for his opinions. Sad. Really sad.
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Straightdown: Again emoticons and no real rebuttal or debate from a man who is uneducated and has to rely on Wiki for his opinions. Sad. Really sad.
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STOP LYING INTO YOUR BIBLICAL TIME MACHINE!!!
19 August 2011 — A United Nations committee on Palestinian rights today called on the international community to take “credible and decisive action” to compel Israel to halt its settlement activity in occupied Palestinian territory.
“Recent Israeli settlement announcements undermine international efforts aimed at bringing the parties back to negotiations,” the Bureau of the Committee on the Exercise of the Inalienable Rights of the Palestinian People said in a statement, voicing deep alarm at Israel’s “illegal” approval of 5,200 new housing units in occupied East Jerusalem in August alone.
“They have a corrosive effect on confidence and undermine goodwill, absent which serious and genuine permanent status negotiations are unlikely to succeed,” it added, noting that the issues of settlements and Jerusalem are among core issues to be negotiated by the parties. “All unilateral actions by Israel which prejudge the outcome of negotiations by creating faits accomplis on the ground have no legal validity.”
The bureau strongly condemned Israel’s “illegal and provocative acts,” which it said were aimed at encircling and separating East Jerusalem from the rest of occupied Palestinian territory behind a wall of settlements.
They also cement Israeli control over the West Bank by fragmenting it in ways which would render a viable, contiguous and sovereign Palestinian State impossible to achieve in accordance with the two-State solution, the bureau added, referring to the internationally approved Road Map plan that seeks to resolve the Middle East on the basis of two states, Israel and Palestine, living side by side in peace and within secure borders.
19 August 2011 — A United Nations committee on Palestinian rights today called on the international community to take “credible and decisive action” to compel Israel to halt its settlement activity in occupied Palestinian territory.
“Recent Israeli settlement announcements undermine international efforts aimed at bringing the parties back to negotiations,” the Bureau of the Committee on the Exercise of the Inalienable Rights of the Palestinian People said in a statement, voicing deep alarm at Israel’s “illegal” approval of 5,200 new housing units in occupied East Jerusalem in August alone.
“They have a corrosive effect on confidence and undermine goodwill, absent which serious and genuine permanent status negotiations are unlikely to succeed,” it added, noting that the issues of settlements and Jerusalem are among core issues to be negotiated by the parties. “All unilateral actions by Israel which prejudge the outcome of negotiations by creating faits accomplis on the ground have no legal validity.”
The bureau strongly condemned Israel’s “illegal and provocative acts,” which it said were aimed at encircling and separating East Jerusalem from the rest of occupied Palestinian territory behind a wall of settlements.
They also cement Israeli control over the West Bank by fragmenting it in ways which would render a viable, contiguous and sovereign Palestinian State impossible to achieve in accordance with the two-State solution, the bureau added, referring to the internationally approved Road Map plan that seeks to resolve the Middle East on the basis of two states, Israel and Palestine, living side by side in peace and within secure borders.
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GUZMAN1: STOP LYING INTO YOUR BIBLICAL TIME MACHINE!!!
19 August 2011 — A United Nations committee on Palestinian rights today called on the international community to take “credible and decisive action” to compel Israel to halt its settlement activity in occupied Palestinian territory.
“Recent Israeli settlement announcements undermine international efforts aimed at bringing the parties back to negotiations,” the Bureau of the Committee on the Exercise of the Inalienable Rights of the Palestinian People said in a statement, voicing deep alarm at Israel’s “illegal” approval of 5,200 new housing units in occupied East Jerusalem in August alone.
“They have a corrosive effect on confidence and undermine goodwill, absent which serious and genuine permanent status negotiations are unlikely to succeed,” it added, noting that the issues of settlements and Jerusalem are among core issues to be negotiated by the parties. “All unilateral actions by Israel which prejudge the outcome of negotiations by creating faits accomplis on the ground have no legal validity.”
The bureau strongly condemned Israel’s “illegal and provocative acts,” which it said were aimed at encircling and separating East Jerusalem from the rest of occupied Palestinian territory behind a wall of settlements.
They also cement Israeli control over the West Bank by fragmenting it in ways which would render a viable, contiguous and sovereign Palestinian State impossible to achieve in accordance with the two-State solution, the bureau added, referring to the internationally approved Road Map plan that seeks to resolve the Middle East on the basis of two states, Israel and Palestine, living side by side in peace and within secure borders.
Have they all of a sudden accepted Res.181?19 August 2011 — A United Nations committee on Palestinian rights today called on the international community to take “credible and decisive action” to compel Israel to halt its settlement activity in occupied Palestinian territory.
“Recent Israeli settlement announcements undermine international efforts aimed at bringing the parties back to negotiations,” the Bureau of the Committee on the Exercise of the Inalienable Rights of the Palestinian People said in a statement, voicing deep alarm at Israel’s “illegal” approval of 5,200 new housing units in occupied East Jerusalem in August alone.
“They have a corrosive effect on confidence and undermine goodwill, absent which serious and genuine permanent status negotiations are unlikely to succeed,” it added, noting that the issues of settlements and Jerusalem are among core issues to be negotiated by the parties. “All unilateral actions by Israel which prejudge the outcome of negotiations by creating faits accomplis on the ground have no legal validity.”
The bureau strongly condemned Israel’s “illegal and provocative acts,” which it said were aimed at encircling and separating East Jerusalem from the rest of occupied Palestinian territory behind a wall of settlements.
They also cement Israeli control over the West Bank by fragmenting it in ways which would render a viable, contiguous and sovereign Palestinian State impossible to achieve in accordance with the two-State solution, the bureau added, referring to the internationally approved Road Map plan that seeks to resolve the Middle East on the basis of two states, Israel and Palestine, living side by side in peace and within secure borders.
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chris27292729: You are dead right,the Palestinians never owned the land ,their goats,camels,livestock roaming this land and the people cultivating it,for 2000,never owened it.
Don't worry Chris, now they are playing a new game, delete a few comments and put other words in our mouth.
Perhaps they are trying to explain us tahta the "people" who is in the West Bank are not the owners of their homes, and they are not born there.
In Canada, Switzerland or London people knows better than us what is really happening.
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For Straightdown and for anyone else who believes Judea and Samaria does not belong to Israel. Watch, listen and learn.
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GUZMAN1: Don't worry Chris, now they are playing a new game, delete a few comments and put other words in our mouth.
Perhaps they are trying to explain us tahta the "people" who is in the West Bank are not the owners of their homes, and they are not born there.
In Canada, Switzerland or London people knows better than us what is really happening.
Perhaps they are trying to explain us tahta the "people" who is in the West Bank are not the owners of their homes, and they are not born there.
In Canada, Switzerland or London people knows better than us what is really happening.
Believe me I have the power to hide a post or ban a user but not to delete a post. Only CS Admin can delete comments. I did tell you that before.
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Wow_Factor: For Straightdown and for anyone else who believes Judea and Samaria does not belong to Israel. Watch, listen and learn.
Again with the videos and childish words??? Did I say I did not believe anything belonged to Israel???? No. I said for your argument there is always a counter argument. And hopw many times do I have to tell you that just because someone posted a video does not make it fact.
And religious scripture does not make fact either.
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Straightdown: Again with the videos and childish words??? Did I say I did not believe anything belonged to Israel???? No. I said for your argument there is always a counter argument. And hopw many times do I have to tell you that just because someone posted a video does not make it fact.
And religious scripture does not make fact either.
And religious scripture does not make fact either.
So the San Remo Law means nothing???
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Wow_Factor: So the San Remo Law means nothing???
Laws passed by the internation community mean nothing to the Palestinians because they feel they had no say in the laws. They feel borders were made and they were displaced from land they had resided on for thousands of years. The thing about Israel is it quotes UN resolutions and laws when it suits but ignores the UN when that suits also.
And please stop posting propaganda videos from young Jewish Men claiming it to be fact. Every video they say if you want proff just consult another video by time. It is so one sided and biased and does not look at the whole picture...A bit like you really.
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GUZMAN1: Don't worry Chris, now they are playing a new game, delete a few comments and put other words in our mouth.
Perhaps they are trying to explain us tahta the "people" who is in the West Bank are not the owners of their homes, and they are not born there.
In Canada, Switzerland or London people knows better than us what is really happening.
would you like to expand on that,Mister?Perhaps they are trying to explain us tahta the "people" who is in the West Bank are not the owners of their homes, and they are not born there.
In Canada, Switzerland or London people knows better than us what is really happening.
So we cam all have a good laugh about it!
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Straightdown: Laws passed by the internation community mean nothing to the Palestinians because they feel they had no say in the laws.
The refused the land preferring to anialate every Jew instead.
Straightdown: They feel borders were made and they were displaced from land they had resided on for thousands of years. The thing about Israel is it quotes UN resolutions and laws when it suits but ignores the UN when that suits also.
And please stop posting propaganda videos from young Jewish Men claiming it to be fact. Every video they say if you want proff just consult another video by time. It is so one sided and biased and does not look at the whole picture...A bit like you really.
And please stop posting propaganda videos from young Jewish Men claiming it to be fact. Every video they say if you want proff just consult another video by time. It is so one sided and biased and does not look at the whole picture...A bit like you really.
I post videos because some people can't be bothered to read articles and links but prefer some video to explain things. It stays in their brain longer, but then there are sometimes exceptions to this with people who fail to understand the written words and fail to understand some speaking what the written word states.
The arabs flocked to the land after the Jews started to cultivate it. The arabs came from surrounding Syria, Lebanon and Jordan. They were offered a state and refused. They only started wanting their own land once Israel had Judea and Samaria.
There are daily rockets into Israel and daily attacks against Jews. When the arabs make peace, and vow to change their Charter, then there will be peace. Until then Israel is legally and morally entitled to the land it has.
I really do hope you understand now. I really couln't put it simpler. I have told you. The most simple videos have told you. It is not just the religious aspect of the land. It is the legal aspect.
To this very day Abbas and Hamas are vowing to kill every Jew. And you want compromise and Israel to give away land that legally belongs to Israel. Don't make me laugh!
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Wow_Factor: The refused the land preferring to anialate every Jew instead.
I post videos because some people can't be bothered to read articles and links but prefer some video to explain things. It stays in their brain longer, but then there are sometimes exceptions to this with people who fail to understand the written words and fail to understand some speaking what the written word states.
The arabs flocked to the land after the Jews started to cultivate it. The arabs came from surrounding Syria, Lebanon and Jordan. They were offered a state and refused. They only started wanting their own land once Israel had Judea and Samaria.
There are daily rockets into Israel and daily attacks against Jews. When the arabs make peace, and vow to change their Charter, then there will be peace. Until then Israel is legally and morally entitled to the land it has.
I really do hope you understand now. I really couln't put it simpler. I have told you. The most simple videos have told you. It is not just the religious aspect of the land. It is the legal aspect.
To this very day Abbas and Hamas are vowing to kill every Jew. And you want compromise and Israel to give away land that legally belongs to Israel. Don't make me laugh!
I post videos because some people can't be bothered to read articles and links but prefer some video to explain things. It stays in their brain longer, but then there are sometimes exceptions to this with people who fail to understand the written words and fail to understand some speaking what the written word states.
The arabs flocked to the land after the Jews started to cultivate it. The arabs came from surrounding Syria, Lebanon and Jordan. They were offered a state and refused. They only started wanting their own land once Israel had Judea and Samaria.
There are daily rockets into Israel and daily attacks against Jews. When the arabs make peace, and vow to change their Charter, then there will be peace. Until then Israel is legally and morally entitled to the land it has.
I really do hope you understand now. I really couln't put it simpler. I have told you. The most simple videos have told you. It is not just the religious aspect of the land. It is the legal aspect.
To this very day Abbas and Hamas are vowing to kill every Jew. And you want compromise and Israel to give away land that legally belongs to Israel. Don't make me laugh!
I understand whats going on in the Middle East. But understanding what the situation is does Not mean agreeing with you or your view of the situation. You claim to be trying to educate people but are posting links littered with untruths and also claiming ridicioulas things to be fact!
You say Arabs flocked to the land after Jews cultivated it. That is such an untruth and a down right lie. Arabs have been on that land for thousands of years. You are talking like they only claimed it after Jewish settlements started popping up.
What do you mean morally entitled to land? How can anyone be morally entitled to anything???? Because the bible says so???? Well arabs don't believe in the bilble and the words written in it.
That land belongs to Israel legally beacuse the UN decided that was the case. Arabs would argue who were the UN to make such a decision and displace The Palestinian people so Jewish people could settle there.
You really do make me laugh because you claim to be educated on the subject but you are not. You have been fed propaganda and then you come on here feeding people the same crap claiming it to be fact.
You don't want peace in the Middle East, all you care about is being right. And that will never happen because you are so wrong in most of what you say!
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It has not legally belonged to anyone but Israel.
On the contrary simple facts that Judea and Samaria legally belongs to Israel and the settlements are 100 per cent totally legal and your refusal to grasp that simple fact is quite astonishing.
You see again there is a flip side you don't mention. You say it has not legally belonged to anyone but Israel??? Who did it belong to in before 1948???
You are also using that word facts again. You talk about legal. Who makes the laws. The flip side to your arguemnt is certain people would say the people who lived there for thousand of years would own the land....Not the people imported and given it by the UN.
For every argument you have there is a counter argument. Why can you not grasp that SIMPLE FACT?????