Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state? (802)

Mar 30, 2012 3:56 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Conrad73: they could have had that Place since '47!
But as usual,they listened to the wrong People!
They had their land for 2000 years,others bursted in,and allowed to settle.laugh laugh
Mar 30, 2012 3:57 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
maxmate1
maxmate1maxmate1Dubai, United Arab Emirates1 Threads 963 Posts
Conrad73: OK,Max,now let's see the proof for your Contention!


Wow! wow According to you and your usual team, It would be that Jewish Religion is the fastest spreading religion in the world. There are millions of synagogues all over the world, more than mosques, churches and temples, and there are jewish missionaries converting people from other religions to judaism and very soon it will be the largest religion in the world. People like judaism so much that it is the global symbol of peace.

And the Jewish (zionist actually) state of israel spreads love, doesn't kill anyone, doesn't occupy anybody's land, have cordial relations with its neighbors and doesn't threaten to invade any country.

So please stop persuading us.

doh
Mar 30, 2012 4:00 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
could be the one , had alook around . There are several boats talked about . Might have crossed wires on this as I thought 1000's died .
Mar 30, 2012 4:01 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Nikogas
NikogasNikogasMetro, Oregon USA46 Threads 5 Polls 4,037 Posts
maxmate1: Wow! According to you and your usual team, It would be that Jewish Religion is the fastest spreading religion in the world. There are millions of synagogues all over the world, more than mosques, churches and temples, and there are jewish missionaries converting people from other religions to judaism and very soon it will be the largest religion in the world. People like judaism so much that it is the global symbol of peace.

And the Jewish (zionist actually) state of israel spreads love, doesn't kill anyone, doesn't occupy anybody's land, have cordial relations with its neighbors and doesn't threaten to invade any country.

So please stop persuading us.


Hi Max, I found a Kosher palinka made in Budapest by Zwack Unicum. It is a nice smooth taste indeed. Slivovitz...is from the plums.
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Mar 30, 2012 4:03 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
maxmate1: Wow! According to you and your usual team, It would be that Jewish Religion is the fastest spreading religion in the world. There are millions of synagogues all over the world, more than mosques, churches and temples, and there are jewish missionaries converting people from other religions to judaism and very soon it will be the largest religion in the world. People like judaism so much that it is the global symbol of peace.

And the Jewish (zionist actually) state of israel spreads love, doesn't kill anyone, doesn't occupy anybody's land, have cordial relations with its neighbors and doesn't threaten to invade any country.

So please stop persuading us.


Missed the mark Max. Conrad merely said that you were wrong. There4 are many famous people whom you can look up on the net that converted to Judaism such as Marilyn Monroe, Madonna, Elvis Presley, Elizabeth Taylor and man many m ore. As for converting to Islam, more Muslims convert to Christianity than the reverse and please, do some research prior to coming back with more idiocy as this is getting tiresome proving points that you can easily verify yourself thanks.
Mar 30, 2012 4:06 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
chris27292729: They had their land for 2000 years,others bursted in,and allowed to settle.


You mean they squatted on the land owned by the Jews, Caliphates, Ottomans Romans and British after they expelled the Jews by force and persecution. Funny how you now imply the Jews are supposed to allow those who left to return back even after they swore to kill them.
Mar 30, 2012 4:08 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
maxmate1
maxmate1maxmate1Dubai, United Arab Emirates1 Threads 963 Posts
epirb: Have a look Max , just had a look you should find heaps of info on the subject . Strange how you call going Jewish is propaganda , but I guess going Islamic is all good stuff , why is this Max ? Just a little twofaced or something more sinister like this thread ?


I have done my research Eprib, Jews don't "missionize" people to convert to Judaism faith. For many reasons.

Perhaps you need to figure out your information sources better.
Mar 30, 2012 4:08 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
maxmate1: Wow! According to you and your usual team, It would be that Jewish Religion is the fastest spreading religion in the world. There are millions of synagogues all over the world, more than mosques, churches and temples, and there are jewish missionaries converting people from other religions to judaism and very soon it will be the largest religion in the world. People like judaism so much that it is the global symbol of peace.

And the Jewish (zionist actually) state of israel spreads love, doesn't kill anyone, doesn't occupy anybody's land, have cordial relations with its neighbors and doesn't threaten to invade any country.

So please stop persuading us.
You will just have to leave that hookah alone Max , wild weed not good for you laugh
Mar 30, 2012 4:11 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
maxmate1
maxmate1maxmate1Dubai, United Arab Emirates1 Threads 963 Posts
Albertaghost: Missed the mark Max. Conrad merely said that you were wrong. There4 are many famous people whom you can look up on the net that converted to Judaism such as Marilyn Monroe, Madonna, Elvis Presley, Elizabeth Taylor and man many m ore. As for converting to Islam, more Muslims convert to Christianity than the reverse and please, do some research prior to coming back with more idiocy as this is getting tiresome proving points that you can easily verify yourself thanks.


I asked connie, and not you. So please let him come up with a non-funny, non-mocking, sensible reply. Even if is a remote propability knowing him.

But, Jews don't 'missionize' people for many reasons of their own. Unlike Christianity, Islam and Buddhism. Perhaps, you'd like to research more on that.
Mar 30, 2012 4:13 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
maxmate1: I have done my research Eprib, Jews don't "missionize" people to convert to Judaism faith. For many reasons.

Perhaps you need to figure out your information sources better.


Perhaps you need to remember what your erroneous statement was - that

""A jew is only by birth and not converted (other than propaganda), like in christianity, buddhism or Islam where anyone can convert to. ""

Nobody said there were more converts to Judaism or that they missionized just that there were many converts to it which is contrary to your silly uninformed statement above.
Mar 30, 2012 4:16 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
maxmate1: I asked connie, and not you. So please let him come up with a non-funny, non-mocking, sensible reply. Even if is a remote propability knowing him.

But, Jews don't 'missionize' people for many reasons of their own. Unlike Christianity, Islam and Buddhism. Perhaps, you'd like to research more on that.


Why would I not know that or even need to look it up as it is not part of the discussion. What is part of it though is your mistaken contention that there are no converts to Judaism. In that you are wrong as there are many and some of them are very famous and, if you had done even simple research prior to beaking off you would have known that.
Mar 30, 2012 4:17 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
maxmate1: I have done my research Eprib, Jews don't "missionize" people to convert to Judaism faith. For many reasons.

Perhaps you need to figure out your information sources better.
Very little you could teach me or any body else by what I have seen by your imput Max . History did not start with your birth , but before it . Maybe you could spend time having alook around from time to time . See things as they were rather than what you want to see .
Mar 30, 2012 4:19 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
maxmate1
maxmate1maxmate1Dubai, United Arab Emirates1 Threads 963 Posts
epirb: Very little you could teach me or any body else by what I have seen by your imput Max . History did not start with your birth , but before it . Maybe you could spend time having alook around from time to time . See things as they were rather than what you want to see .


In fact, this is what Jeudaism thinks about Christian Missionizing (a poison?) WOW! doh

Take some time to read what it really is about....



Wonder why "missionizing" in Judaism is so discouraged? confused
Mar 30, 2012 4:22 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
maxmate1
maxmate1maxmate1Dubai, United Arab Emirates1 Threads 963 Posts
Albertaghost: Why would I not know that or even need to look it up as it is not part of the discussion. What is part of it though is your mistaken contention that there are no converts to Judaism. In that you are wrong as there are many and some of them are very famous and, if you had done even simple research prior to beaking off you would have known that.


The contention is simple. Judaism discourages converting people to their faith. That is why we see missionaries from all other religions, but judaism.
Mar 30, 2012 4:23 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Nikogas
NikogasNikogasMetro, Oregon USA46 Threads 5 Polls 4,037 Posts
maxmate1: In fact, this is what Jeudaism thinks about Christian Missionizing (a poison?) WOW!

Take some time to read what it really is about....



Wonder why "missionizing" in Judaism is so discouraged?

is there a Muslim Missioning??

dunno
Mar 30, 2012 4:24 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Albertaghost: You mean they squatted on the land owned by the Jews, Caliphates, Ottomans Romans and British after they expelled the Jews by force and persecution. Funny how you now imply the Jews are supposed to allow those who left to return back even after they swore to kill them.
Squating for 2000 years????Isn't rather long,to be a squatter for 2000 years,and not an owner???? Others been wandering for 2000 in greener pastures and allowed them to resettle.laugh laugh laugh
Mar 30, 2012 4:25 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Nikogas
NikogasNikogasMetro, Oregon USA46 Threads 5 Polls 4,037 Posts
maxmate1: The contention is simple. Judaism discourages converting people to their faith. That is why we see missionaries from all other religions, but judaism.


Like Hindu Missionaries??? or the Buddha Missionaries? or the Christian Scientist Missionaries??
I don't think so...is there?
Max?
Mar 30, 2012 4:26 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
trueheart1941
trueheart1941trueheart1941brentwood essex, Essex, England UK27 Threads 8,005 Posts
.............yes.....and the golan heights...should be a no mans land......
Mar 30, 2012 4:30 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
maxmate1: In fact, this is what Jeudaism thinks about Christian Missionizing (a poison?) WOW!

Take some time to read what it really is about....



Wonder why "missionizing" in Judaism is so discouraged?
Thats the trouble with free speech Max , lots of it about . Just because someone says something will not make it true . Many people may beleave something , that two will not make something correct . What makes something true Max is FACT . It is not a choice thing . To beleave is choice , you seem to beleave a load off crap . Good for you .
Mar 30, 2012 4:35 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
maxmate1
maxmate1maxmate1Dubai, United Arab Emirates1 Threads 963 Posts
Nikogas: Like Hindu Missionaries??? or the Buddha Missionaries? or the Christian Scientist Missionaries??
I don't think so...is there?
Max?


Yes, to all. And in a very organized way I noticed. Chrisitain Missionaries I know. What is Christian "Scientist" Missionaries? That's a new thing altogether for me.
Mar 30, 2012 4:36 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
bestbefore
bestbeforebestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK116 Threads 2 Polls 4,701 Posts
Just popped in for a quick perusal and have never read so much clap trap regarding the Jews in all my born days.

My home town of Bournemouth is ,and always has been, a haven for the Jewish faith, and there are many who have converted simply because they want to marry a Jew.There are also those that choose to marry a gentile and the children are either raised in the gentile's religion or the Jewish faith.Of course one assumes that they are not ultra orthodox.

Why do people on here assume they KNOW everything about religions and other people's country's. Listen and learn from those that actually do know what they are talking about.
Mar 30, 2012 4:39 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
maxmate1
maxmate1maxmate1Dubai, United Arab Emirates1 Threads 963 Posts
epirb: Thats the trouble with free speech Max , lots of it about . Just because someone says something will not make it true . Many people may beleave something , that two will not make something correct . What makes something true Max is FACT . It is not a choice thing . To beleave is choice , you seem to beleave a load off crap . Good for you .


Okay. Point taken. Then I would request you to please cite some credible references that refutes the "notion" that Judaism discourages missionizing people. handshake
Mar 30, 2012 4:41 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
trueheart1941: .............yes.....and the golan heights...should be a no mans land......
Any region in the Middle East,where a Jew historically set foot on,in the past,belongs to Israel,laugh laugh laugh ,including Ur, the birth place of Abraaham.rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Mar 30, 2012 4:42 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
bestbefore: Just popped in for a quick perusal and have never read so much clap trap regarding the Jews in all my born days.

My home town of Bournemouth is ,and always has been, a haven for the Jewish faith, and there are many who have converted simply because they want to marry a Jew.There are also those that choose to marry a gentile and the children are either raised in the gentile's religion or the Jewish faith.Of course one assumes that they are not ultra orthodox.

Why do people on here assume they KNOW everything about religions and other people's country's. Listen and learn from those that actually do know what they are talking about.
These guys who marry jewish girls do they have to er "snip" a little ? BB
Mar 30, 2012 4:43 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
maxmate1
maxmate1maxmate1Dubai, United Arab Emirates1 Threads 963 Posts
chris27292729: Any region in the Middle East,where a Jew historically set foot on,in the past,belongs to Israel, ,including Ur, the birth place of Abraaham.


The whole of Europe, America and Australia was "mine" more than 3000 years ago. Make me a country too. laugh rolling on the floor laughing
Mar 30, 2012 4:46 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
epirb: These guys who marry jewish girls do they have to er "snip" a little ? BB
Belate doing it,not when 12 years old.laugh laugh laugh
Mar 30, 2012 4:48 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
Not a chance , don't do links at all . For every one that you might agree with there is as many that you won't , thats the point .
Mar 30, 2012 4:49 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
maxmate1: The whole of Europe, America and Australia was "mine" more than 3000 years ago. Make me a country too.
I name you Emperor of Earth.rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Mar 30, 2012 4:52 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
chris27292729: Belate doing it,not when 12 years old.
don't think I would want it shorter anyway . laugh Funny how BB bolted just when the important stuff hits the tab
Mar 30, 2012 4:53 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
bestbefore
bestbeforebestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK116 Threads 2 Polls 4,701 Posts
epirb: These guys who marry jewish girls do they have to er "snip" a little ? BB


Hello there,

I would say it's usually women marrying Jewish men in which case they have been circumsized.

This is an interesting article from a Jewish paper that dispels the theory that they do not interact.

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