Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state? (802)
ttom500: This post to be removed by the moderator at a future time.....))
I am the author and would like to request the site moderator not to remove this poll because I wanted to find out the opinions majority of people in the world about their views in this issue. At least the result would help policy makers around the world to address some issues like the right of return or sharing of land; and would encourage international community to get involve so that atrocities, injustice and hardships to those civillian victims of decades conflict will be stopped on both sides.
I wish the votes and comments would reach to thousands.
One of the biggest lies that the Zionists use to try to justify their invasion of Palestine is the claim that the land was empty before their arrival. The oft-told lies claims that there were no Palestinians in Palestine. That they only showed up after the Jews arrived and "made the desert bloom".
There is no truth whatsoever to that claim. Palestine had hundreds of towns and villages. And it was already blooming. The Zionists merely stole the land, bulldozed the homes, killed as many of the population as they could and forced the others to flee for their lives.
Here are some pictures of Palestine from the late 1920s.
Nazereth
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Jerusalem
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Hebron
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Clearly Palestine was not an empty desert as the liars claim.
It was a multicultural land full of Palestinian Muslims, Christians, Jews, Druze, Zoroastrians, and a lot of other religions. They all lived together in peace and harmony, without terrorism, without conflict, without checkpoints, without walls, without any need for massive concentrations of arms.
Palestine was peaceful for many centuries. But that all changed when the Zionist Khazars invaded.
There is no truth whatsoever to that claim. Palestine had hundreds of towns and villages. And it was already blooming. The Zionists merely stole the land, bulldozed the homes, killed as many of the population as they could and forced the others to flee for their lives.
Here are some pictures of Palestine from the late 1920s.
Nazereth
---- IMAGE REMOVED because photobucket.com no longer allows embedded images ----
Jerusalem
---- IMAGE REMOVED because photobucket.com no longer allows embedded images ----
Hebron
---- IMAGE REMOVED because photobucket.com no longer allows embedded images ----
Clearly Palestine was not an empty desert as the liars claim.
It was a multicultural land full of Palestinian Muslims, Christians, Jews, Druze, Zoroastrians, and a lot of other religions. They all lived together in peace and harmony, without terrorism, without conflict, without checkpoints, without walls, without any need for massive concentrations of arms.
Palestine was peaceful for many centuries. But that all changed when the Zionist Khazars invaded.
RayfromUSA: One of the biggest lies that the Zionists use to try to justify their invasion of Palestine is the claim that the land was empty before their arrival. The oft-told lies claims that there were no Palestinians in Palestine. That they only showed up after the Jews arrived and "made the desert bloom".
There is no truth whatsoever to that claim. Palestine had hundreds of towns and villages. And it was already blooming. The Zionists merely stole the land, bulldozed the homes, killed as many of the population as they could and forced the others to flee for their lives.
Here are some pictures of Palestine from the late 1920s.
NazerethJerusalemHebronClearly Palestine was not an empty desert as the liars claim.
It was a multicultural land full of Palestinian Muslims, Christians, Jews, Druze, Zoroastrians, and a lot of other religions. They all lived together in peace and harmony, without terrorism, without conflict, without checkpoints, without walls, without any need for massive concentrations of arms.
Palestine was peaceful for many centuries. But that all changed when the Zionist Khazars invaded.
so what,Ray?There is no truth whatsoever to that claim. Palestine had hundreds of towns and villages. And it was already blooming. The Zionists merely stole the land, bulldozed the homes, killed as many of the population as they could and forced the others to flee for their lives.
Here are some pictures of Palestine from the late 1920s.
NazerethJerusalemHebronClearly Palestine was not an empty desert as the liars claim.
It was a multicultural land full of Palestinian Muslims, Christians, Jews, Druze, Zoroastrians, and a lot of other religions. They all lived together in peace and harmony, without terrorism, without conflict, without checkpoints, without walls, without any need for massive concentrations of arms.
Palestine was peaceful for many centuries. But that all changed when the Zionist Khazars invaded.
Still claim they have no connection to the ME,in spite of all the Genetic evidence?
Pretty serious Charges you are leveling!
Do you have proof beside those Conspiracy-Sites and YouTube?
Really hate the Jews that much,Ray?
Conrad73: so what,Ray?
Still claim they have no connection to the ME,in spite of all the Genetic evidence?
Pretty serious Charges you are leveling!
Do you have proof beside those Conspiracy-Sites and YouTube?
Really hate the Jews that much,Ray?
yep, al-Husseini saw to it,so they all lived in Peace!Still claim they have no connection to the ME,in spite of all the Genetic evidence?
Pretty serious Charges you are leveling!
Do you have proof beside those Conspiracy-Sites and YouTube?
Really hate the Jews that much,Ray?
Really think Ray,a few piccies make a difference?
You been proved wrong over and over!
Yet you try again and again!
So you claim that Non-Jews killed all those Inhabitants!
Get real,Mister!
You still don't tell us that the Land was actually owned,not by the Inhabitants,but by the Ottomans and Absentee Landowners in Beirut,Cairo,Damascus and elsewhere!
Neither do you tell us that 80% of the Mandate was given to the Arabs,before any Partition of the Leftover took place!
Lots of things you ain't telling us which would paint a totally different Picture!
Even the way it was Partitioned!
Negev was full of Towns and Farms and and and?
RayfromUSA: One of the biggest lies that the Zionists use to try to justify their invasion of Palestine is the claim that the land was empty before their arrival. The oft-told lies claims that there were no Palestinians in Palestine. That they only showed up after the Jews arrived and "made the desert bloom".
There is no truth whatsoever to that claim. Palestine had hundreds of towns and villages. And it was already blooming. The Zionists merely stole the land, bulldozed the homes, killed as many of the population as they could and forced the others to flee for their lives.
Here are some pictures of Palestine from the late 1920s.
NazerethJerusalemHebronClearly Palestine was not an empty desert as the liars claim.
It was a multicultural land full of Palestinian Muslims, Christians, Jews, Druze, Zoroastrians, and a lot of other religions. They all lived together in peace and harmony, without terrorism, without conflict, without checkpoints, without walls, without any need for massive concentrations of arms.
Palestine was peaceful for many centuries. But that all changed when the Zionist Khazars invaded.
so you gonna reverse it all?There is no truth whatsoever to that claim. Palestine had hundreds of towns and villages. And it was already blooming. The Zionists merely stole the land, bulldozed the homes, killed as many of the population as they could and forced the others to flee for their lives.
Here are some pictures of Palestine from the late 1920s.
NazerethJerusalemHebronClearly Palestine was not an empty desert as the liars claim.
It was a multicultural land full of Palestinian Muslims, Christians, Jews, Druze, Zoroastrians, and a lot of other religions. They all lived together in peace and harmony, without terrorism, without conflict, without checkpoints, without walls, without any need for massive concentrations of arms.
Palestine was peaceful for many centuries. But that all changed when the Zionist Khazars invaded.
Throw them under the Bus?
Same way Taiwan is being thrown under the Bus!
Is Armageddon really that important,to make another BloodSacrifice?
Is it,Ray?
That's what it really boils down to!
The Endtimes!
Armageddon!
Tribulation!
Let's make another Six Million Sacrifice to the Lord to hasten his return!
No Mister,NO WAY!
Israel wasn't created to have another Holocaust!
RayfromUSA: One of the biggest lies that the Zionists use to try to justify their invasion of Palestine is the claim that the land was empty before their arrival. The oft-told lies claims that there were no Palestinians in Palestine. That they only showed up after the Jews arrived and "made the desert bloom".
There is no truth whatsoever to that claim. Palestine had hundreds of towns and villages. And it was already blooming. The Zionists merely stole the land, bulldozed the homes, killed as many of the population as they could and forced the others to flee for their lives.
Here are some pictures of Palestine from the late 1920s.
NazerethJerusalemHebronClearly Palestine was not an empty desert as the liars claim.
It was a multicultural land full of Palestinian Muslims, Christians, Jews, Druze, Zoroastrians, and a lot of other religions. They all lived together in peace and harmony, without terrorism, without conflict, without checkpoints, without walls, without any need for massive concentrations of arms.
Palestine was peaceful for many centuries. But that all changed when the Zionist Khazars invaded.
There is no truth whatsoever to that claim. Palestine had hundreds of towns and villages. And it was already blooming. The Zionists merely stole the land, bulldozed the homes, killed as many of the population as they could and forced the others to flee for their lives.
Here are some pictures of Palestine from the late 1920s.
NazerethJerusalemHebronClearly Palestine was not an empty desert as the liars claim.
It was a multicultural land full of Palestinian Muslims, Christians, Jews, Druze, Zoroastrians, and a lot of other religions. They all lived together in peace and harmony, without terrorism, without conflict, without checkpoints, without walls, without any need for massive concentrations of arms.
Palestine was peaceful for many centuries. But that all changed when the Zionist Khazars invaded.
and so many Jews lived alonside the Arabs at this time Ray......ut of course you photos can't prove or disprove this....So why bother posting them....
And the Jews did make the desert bloom.....Google or even U-tue KIBBUTZ....
Conrad73: so you gonna reverse it all?
Throw them under the Bus?
Same way Taiwan is being thrown under the Bus!
Is Armageddon really that important,to make another BloodSacrifice?
Is it,Ray?
That's what it really boils down to!
The Endtimes!
Armageddon!
Tribulation!
Let's make another Six Million Sacrifice to the Lord to hasten his return!
No Mister,NO WAY!
Israel wasn't created to have another Holocaust!
Throw them under the Bus?
Same way Taiwan is being thrown under the Bus!
Is Armageddon really that important,to make another BloodSacrifice?
Is it,Ray?
That's what it really boils down to!
The Endtimes!
Armageddon!
Tribulation!
Let's make another Six Million Sacrifice to the Lord to hasten his return!
No Mister,NO WAY!
Israel wasn't created to have another Holocaust!
Crikey.! ....I have just logged in and you are still on here and seem to have been continously since I went to bed last night.!!
It is exactly that extremist zeal that is typical of Jews trying to force their point on everyone.!! Oh,and by the way don,t forget I apparently also have Jewish blood in my heritage but that does NOT stop me from seeing the TRUTH.!
Namely 1] there is absolutely NO proof that anywhere near 6 million Jews were killed in the two and half years following the 1942 descion
to commit to 'The final solution'.
2] After April 1945 if ONLY the SURVIVING Jews went to Palestine
then they may have been feasable to assimilate over there. After all...as you stated...there were not MILLIONS, which was understandable
considering there was peace and many returned to their original and now safe homelands.!!
No, but what actually happened was that even though there was now PEACE they CHOSE to go to Palestine with the declared intention to take over by pure numbers.
MILLIONS more since then have freely CHOSEN to migrate there over the past 70 years...further antagonising the indiginous Arabs.!!
AND ALL BECAUSE THEY CALLED IT THE 'PROMISED LAND'. PROMISED NOT BY BALFOUR !!... BUT BY SOMEONE CALLED 'GOD'....THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO.!!
spainlover: Crikey.! ....I have just logged in and you are still on here and seem to have been continously since I went to bed last night.!!
It is exactly that extremist zeal that is typical of Jews trying to force their point on everyone.!! Oh,and by the way don,t forget I apparently also have Jewish blood in my heritage but that does NOT stop me from seeing the TRUTH.!
Namely 1] there is absolutely NO proof that anywhere near 6 million Jews were killed in the two and half years following the 1942 descion
to commit to 'The final solution'.
2] After April 1945 if ONLY the SURVIVING Jews went to Palestine
then they may have been feasable to assimilate over there. After all...as you stated...there were not MILLIONS, which was understandable
considering there was peace and many returned to their original and now safe homelands.!!
No, but what actually happened was that even though there was now PEACE they CHOSE to go to Palestine with the declared intention to take over by pure numbers.
MILLIONS more since then have freely CHOSEN to migrate there over the past 70 years...further antagonising the indiginous Arabs.!!
AND ALL BECAUSE THEY CALLED IT THE 'PROMISED LAND'. PROMISED NOT BY BALFOUR !!... BUT BY SOMEONE CALLED 'GOD'....THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO.!!
It is exactly that extremist zeal that is typical of Jews trying to force their point on everyone.!! Oh,and by the way don,t forget I apparently also have Jewish blood in my heritage but that does NOT stop me from seeing the TRUTH.!
Namely 1] there is absolutely NO proof that anywhere near 6 million Jews were killed in the two and half years following the 1942 descion
to commit to 'The final solution'.
2] After April 1945 if ONLY the SURVIVING Jews went to Palestine
then they may have been feasable to assimilate over there. After all...as you stated...there were not MILLIONS, which was understandable
considering there was peace and many returned to their original and now safe homelands.!!
No, but what actually happened was that even though there was now PEACE they CHOSE to go to Palestine with the declared intention to take over by pure numbers.
MILLIONS more since then have freely CHOSEN to migrate there over the past 70 years...further antagonising the indiginous Arabs.!!
AND ALL BECAUSE THEY CALLED IT THE 'PROMISED LAND'. PROMISED NOT BY BALFOUR !!... BUT BY SOMEONE CALLED 'GOD'....THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO.!!
Direct from your local branch of the Holocaust denial branch.....
I'd rather believe my DAD who served in Germany 1946 in the HLI and saw the camps.....
patmac: Direct from your local branch of the Holocaust denial branch.....
I'd rather believe my DAD who served in Germany 1946 in the HLI and saw the camps.....
I'd rather believe my DAD who served in Germany 1946 in the HLI and saw the camps.....
Oh...sorry I did not realise. Sorry.!
By the way...how long did it take him to personally count the six million.??
spainlover: Oh...sorry I did not realise. Sorry.!
By the way...how long did it take him to personally count the six million.??
By the way...how long did it take him to personally count the six million.??
Nice to see your so flippant about the deaths of MILLIONS
Jews
Slavs
Gypsies
Russians
Catholics
Communists
And so many others that they deemed UNTERMENCH.....
But you will never acknowledge this fact.....
patmac: Nice to see your so flippant about the deaths of MILLIONS
Jews
Slavs
Gypsies
Russians
Catholics
Communists
And so many others that they deemed UNTERMENCH.....But you will never acknowledge this fact.....
Jews
Slavs
Gypsies
Russians
Catholics
Communists
And so many others that they deemed UNTERMENCH.....But you will never acknowledge this fact.....
Of course I acknowledge it.!
As I acknowledge the 30 million that Stalin was supposed to have murdered AFTER the War.!!
Mmm...what did the UN do about that.???
spainlover: Of course I acknowledge it.!
As I acknowledge the 30 million that Stalin was supposed to have murdered AFTER the War.!!
Mmm...what did the UN do about that.???
As I acknowledge the 30 million that Stalin was supposed to have murdered AFTER the War.!!
Mmm...what did the UN do about that.???
So what are we arguing about? Holocaust happened. It is one of the most documented events in modern history. Saying it did not happen, because no accurate accounting the death toll is like saying the stars are not in the sky. I cannot count all the stars in the sky either. But I know that they are there.
spainlover: Of course I acknowledge it.!
As I acknowledge the 30 million that Stalin was supposed to have murdered AFTER the War.!!
Mmm...what did the UN do about that.???
As I acknowledge the 30 million that Stalin was supposed to have murdered AFTER the War.!!
Mmm...what did the UN do about that.???
What could they do it was hidden and STALIN had a veto at the UN .....this has of course like the rest of your posts nothing to do with the point of the thread and that has not got us away from the fact.
You lost this discussion a long time back....Hence all ths rubbish.....
Sad the way folk deny and DENY and DENY.....The German Records (very meticulous) clearly showed the HOLOCAUST.....
patmac: What could they do it was hidden and STALIN had a veto at the UN .....this has of course like the rest of your posts nothing to do with the point of the thread and that has not got us away from the fact.
You lost this discussion a long time back....Hence all ths rubbish.....
Sad the way folk deny and DENY and DENY.....The German Records (very meticulous) clearly showed the HOLOCAUST.....
You lost this discussion a long time back....Hence all ths rubbish.....
Sad the way folk deny and DENY and DENY.....The German Records (very meticulous) clearly showed the HOLOCAUST.....
I agree totally we have got off the subject.!
We were comparing what Europeans did to the native [American ]Indians to exactly what the Jews have done to the Arabs.!!!
won't find much sympathy in NYC on this side of the oceanspainlover: I agree totally we have got off the subject.!
We were comparing what Europeans did to the native [American ]Indians to exactly what the Jews have done to the Arabs.!!!
We were comparing what Europeans did to the native [American ]Indians to exactly what the Jews have done to the Arabs.!!!
Who started the war in 1948 ???
Who has attacked continually ???
Who has stated clearly they would wipe them from the face of the earth ??
THE ARABS
Who never accepted UN181
And nice try the topic is not what you said ......Like I said you lost this discussion way back. Hence the flim flam now.
Sad.....
spainlover: I agree totally we have got off the subject.!
We were comparing what Europeans did to the native [American ]Indians to exactly what the Jews have done to the Arabs.!!!
We were comparing what Europeans did to the native [American ]Indians to exactly what the Jews have done to the Arabs.!!!
That is BS as well. The Jewish nation, before Mohammad was a baby was all the way to Damascus and Bahdad. The have been finding by satellite imagery 100s of old circular Jewish Synagode thru out the region.
So who did the Jews expel? Not the Muslims. They were not even there till 605AD. After 900 it was the Muslims armies that came to defeat the Christian crusade that did in the Jewish settlement of the region.
That is why I say you don't history taught in Europe any more.
But going back to the American Indian wars. After or Civil war between the States. The western indian was in a very tough position. 1000s of well armed and trained in war men went west to the Gold fields of CA and the land rush state of Oklahoma. They were not going to let Indian tribes stop them. Each time the government made a treaty. It was broken by those looking for gold or to homestead.
Now how is that like the Israeli and Arab issue of today? or even in the 600-900 period?
ttom500: That is BS as well. The Jewish nation, before Mohammad was a baby was all the way to Damascus and Bahdad. The have been finding by satellite imagery 100s of old circular Jewish Synagode thru out the region.
So who did the Jews expel? Not the Muslims. They were not even there till 605AD. After 900 it was the Muslims armies that came to defeat the Christian crusade that did in the Jewish settlement of the region.
That is why I say you don't history taught in Europe any more.
But going back to the American Indian wars. After or Civil war between the States. The western indian was in a very tough position. 1000s of well armed and trained in war men went west to the Gold fields of CA and the land rush state of Oklahoma. They were not going to let Indian tribes stop them. Each time the government made a treaty. It was broken by those looking for gold or to homestead.
Now how is that like the Israeli and Arab issue of today? or even in the 600-900 period?
So who did the Jews expel? Not the Muslims. They were not even there till 605AD. After 900 it was the Muslims armies that came to defeat the Christian crusade that did in the Jewish settlement of the region.
That is why I say you don't history taught in Europe any more.
But going back to the American Indian wars. After or Civil war between the States. The western indian was in a very tough position. 1000s of well armed and trained in war men went west to the Gold fields of CA and the land rush state of Oklahoma. They were not going to let Indian tribes stop them. Each time the government made a treaty. It was broken by those looking for gold or to homestead.
Now how is that like the Israeli and Arab issue of today? or even in the 600-900 period?
Time for zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Night folks
ttom500: That is BS as well. The Jewish nation, before Mohammad was a baby was all the way to Damascus and Bahdad. The have been finding by satellite imagery 100s of old circular Jewish Synagode thru out the region.
So who did the Jews expel? Not the Muslims. They were not even there till 605AD. After 900 it was the Muslims armies that came to defeat the Christian crusade that did in the Jewish settlement of the region.
That is why I say you don't history taught in Europe any more.
But going back to the American Indian wars. After or Civil war between the States. The western indian was in a very tough position. 1000s of well armed and trained in war men went west to the Gold fields of CA and the land rush state of Oklahoma. They were not going to let Indian tribes stop them. Each time the government made a treaty. It was broken by those looking for gold or to homestead.
Now how is that like the Israeli and Arab issue of today? or even in the 600-900 period?
So who did the Jews expel? Not the Muslims. They were not even there till 605AD. After 900 it was the Muslims armies that came to defeat the Christian crusade that did in the Jewish settlement of the region.
That is why I say you don't history taught in Europe any more.
But going back to the American Indian wars. After or Civil war between the States. The western indian was in a very tough position. 1000s of well armed and trained in war men went west to the Gold fields of CA and the land rush state of Oklahoma. They were not going to let Indian tribes stop them. Each time the government made a treaty. It was broken by those looking for gold or to homestead.
Now how is that like the Israeli and Arab issue of today? or even in the 600-900 period?
Well Nutmeg...another good point.! [You really must be swotting up on Wikipeadia at the moment. Thats probably why so long between each comment.]
You describe yet ANOTHER analagy when the English and French crusaders invaded 'the holy land.' Yet what happened then is that the Arabs outnumbered the Europeans and kicked them out.!!
The only difference is that the Jews quickly and cleverly out-numbered the Palestinians.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Too slow Nutmeg. Englands always ahead of American interllect.!!
Night night...zzzzzzzzzzzz
Night night...zzzzzzzzzzzz
spainlover: Too slow Nutmeg. Englands always ahead of American interllect.!!
Night night...zzzzzzzzzzzz
Night night...zzzzzzzzzzzz
England's always ahead of American intellect (no 'r' in intellect)
Fixed
Who are you talking to?
Conrad73: so what,Ray?
Still claim they have no connection to the ME,in spite of all the Genetic evidence?
Really hate the Jews that much,Ray?
Still claim they have no connection to the ME,in spite of all the Genetic evidence?
Really hate the Jews that much,Ray?
Even if the Khazars weren't Khazars.
And even if they were pure-blooded direct descendents of Abraham.
(which is not the case for either point)
It still wouldn't give them any right whatsoever to seize the land of others or engage in ethnic cleansing.
You do admit that they were lying their asses off when they claimed that Palestine was empty don't you?
As a wise man once told them to their faces they are not children of Abraham, even if they were his physical descendents. Because the true children of Abraham are those with the faith and spirit of Abraham. He told the pharisees (talmudists) that they were of their father the devil. He was a liar from the beginning and the father of lies.
That's not an accusation against the "Jews". On the contrary there are Pharisees in every culture nowadays.
Short answer is YES
RayfromUSA: One of the biggest lies that the Zionists use to try to justify their invasion of Palestine is the claim that the land was empty before their arrival. The oft-told lies claims that there were no Palestinians in Palestine. That they only showed up after the Jews arrived and "made the desert bloom".
There is no truth whatsoever to that claim. Palestine had hundreds of towns and villages. And it was already blooming. The Zionists merely stole the land, bulldozed the homes, killed as many of the population as they could and forced the others to flee for their lives.
Here are some pictures of Palestine from the late 1920s.
NazerethJerusalemHebronClearly Palestine was not an empty desert as the liars claim.
It was a multicultural land full of Palestinian Muslims, Christians, Jews, Druze, Zoroastrians, and a lot of other religions. They all lived together in peace and harmony, without terrorism, without conflict, without checkpoints, without walls, without any need for massive concentrations of arms.
Palestine was peaceful for many centuries. But that all changed when the Zionist Khazars invaded.
There is no truth whatsoever to that claim. Palestine had hundreds of towns and villages. And it was already blooming. The Zionists merely stole the land, bulldozed the homes, killed as many of the population as they could and forced the others to flee for their lives.
Here are some pictures of Palestine from the late 1920s.
NazerethJerusalemHebronClearly Palestine was not an empty desert as the liars claim.
It was a multicultural land full of Palestinian Muslims, Christians, Jews, Druze, Zoroastrians, and a lot of other religions. They all lived together in peace and harmony, without terrorism, without conflict, without checkpoints, without walls, without any need for massive concentrations of arms.
Palestine was peaceful for many centuries. But that all changed when the Zionist Khazars invaded.
Wow Ray, you seem to have just produced a text book strawman argument complete with bells, whistles and lies.
So the main question I have is that since I have never heard anybody ever say the land was empty perhaps you might provide some factual proof in overwhelming quantities from leaders both past and present that they made this a main contention.
So Ray, can you pony up with proof that the Israeli leadership both past and present stated that the British Mandated Palestine was empty?
Carl96190: I cannot see how Palestine can happen, given that the entire state of Israel is built upon stolen Palestinian land.
In order to steal it somebody had to have owned it.
Please show where there was a nation of Palestine with it's own king, monetary unit, government, capital and history.
spainlover: Crikey.! ....I have just logged in and you are still on here and seem to have been continously since I went to bed last night.!!
It is exactly that extremist zeal that is typical of Jews trying to force their point on everyone.!! Oh,and by the way don,t forget I apparently also have Jewish blood in my heritage but that does NOT stop me from seeing the TRUTH.!
Namely 1] there is absolutely NO proof that anywhere near 6 million Jews were killed in the two and half years following the 1942 descion
to commit to 'The final solution'.
2] After April 1945 if ONLY the SURVIVING Jews went to Palestine
then they may have been feasable to assimilate over there. After all...as you stated...there were not MILLIONS, which was understandable
considering there was peace and many returned to their original and now safe homelands.!!
No, but what actually happened was that even though there was now PEACE they CHOSE to go to Palestine with the declared intention to take over by pure numbers.
MILLIONS more since then have freely CHOSEN to migrate there over the past 70 years...further antagonising the indiginous Arabs.!!
AND ALL BECAUSE THEY CALLED IT THE 'PROMISED LAND'. PROMISED NOT BY BALFOUR !!... BUT BY SOMEONE CALLED 'GOD'....THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO.!!
and the Arabs didn't turn out about a million Jews out of diverse ME-Countries which then had to be accommodated in Israel?It is exactly that extremist zeal that is typical of Jews trying to force their point on everyone.!! Oh,and by the way don,t forget I apparently also have Jewish blood in my heritage but that does NOT stop me from seeing the TRUTH.!
Namely 1] there is absolutely NO proof that anywhere near 6 million Jews were killed in the two and half years following the 1942 descion
to commit to 'The final solution'.
2] After April 1945 if ONLY the SURVIVING Jews went to Palestine
then they may have been feasable to assimilate over there. After all...as you stated...there were not MILLIONS, which was understandable
considering there was peace and many returned to their original and now safe homelands.!!
No, but what actually happened was that even though there was now PEACE they CHOSE to go to Palestine with the declared intention to take over by pure numbers.
MILLIONS more since then have freely CHOSEN to migrate there over the past 70 years...further antagonising the indiginous Arabs.!!
AND ALL BECAUSE THEY CALLED IT THE 'PROMISED LAND'. PROMISED NOT BY BALFOUR !!... BUT BY SOMEONE CALLED 'GOD'....THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO.!!
spainlover: Well Nutmeg...another good point.! [You really must be swotting up on Wikipeadia at the moment. Thats probably why so long between each comment.]
You describe yet ANOTHER analagy when the English and French crusaders invaded 'the holy land.' Yet what happened then is that the Arabs outnumbered the Europeans and kicked them out.!!
The only difference is that the Jews quickly and cleverly out-numbered the Palestinians.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
small wonder!You describe yet ANOTHER analagy when the English and French crusaders invaded 'the holy land.' Yet what happened then is that the Arabs outnumbered the Europeans and kicked them out.!!
The only difference is that the Jews quickly and cleverly out-numbered the Palestinians.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With a million been turned out of the ME-Arab-Countries with scarcely more than a Shirt on their back!
spainlover: Well Nutmeg...another good point.! [You really must be swotting up on Wikipeadia at the moment. Thats probably why so long between each comment.]
You describe yet ANOTHER analagy when the English and French crusaders invaded 'the holy land.' Yet what happened then is that the Arabs outnumbered the Europeans and kicked them out.!!
The only difference is that the Jews quickly and cleverly out-numbered the Palestinians.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WIKI could inform you too,especially those external links!You describe yet ANOTHER analagy when the English and French crusaders invaded 'the holy land.' Yet what happened then is that the Arabs outnumbered the Europeans and kicked them out.!!
The only difference is that the Jews quickly and cleverly out-numbered the Palestinians.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But that's up to you!
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I'm a 53 YEAR'S YUNG MAN that lives back in the 80s
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Ok I should have said millions INCLUDING the ones waiting or TRYING to come in...and takeover.! Still the same result.!!!
And yes I am aware of the Grand Mufti and his frustration of the Jewish element in Palestine.