Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state? (802)

Apr 5, 2012 1:26 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
patmac: Makes a lovely pot of tea.....


Pat...........any chance of some lessons in releasing women's passion's laugh tongue

cheers
Apr 5, 2012 1:35 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
vinny1967: Pat...........any chance of some lessons in releasing women's passion's



Well I have a couple of Ex's who are desperate enough to give you a whirl.....grin cheers
Apr 5, 2012 3:02 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
I said souix :)
Apr 5, 2012 3:06 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
patmac: Well I have a couple of Ex's who are desperate enough to give you a whirl.....


Of course you do. Broken marriage vows... not reflective of an honest man is it? But of course you had your good reason... Res 181? :)
Apr 5, 2012 3:14 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
Paldi5: Of course you do. Broken marriage vows... not reflective of an honest man is it? But of course you had your good reason... Res 181? :)


Nice Paldi shows your real self.....Do you know why they broke up?


Of course not. But like all your other posts it will not stop the fact 181 is legal and Israel is a sovereign state.....

Shame you try so hard to wind folk up when you have no point that could beat the argument against you.

But hey ho have fun you do make me laugh.....grin cheers

Would you care to get back to the point of the thread.

Now I must have said that loads of times to you on so many threads....As you do try so hard to.

"Obfuscate" (quoting an old friend of yours)grin
Apr 5, 2012 4:40 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
patmac: Nice Paldi shows your real self.....Do you know why they broke up?Of course not. But like all your other posts it will not stop the fact 181 is legal and Israel is a sovereign state.....

Shame you try so hard to wind folk up when you have no point that could beat the argument against you.

But hey ho have fun you do make me laugh.....

Would you care to get back to the point of the thread.

Now I must have said that loads of times to you on so many threads....As you do try so hard to.

"Obfuscate" (quoting an old friend of yours)


No Pat, you never said why your two marriages failed. There seems you have a pattern is all.
Apr 5, 2012 4:46 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
patmac: Did you forget to mention you told us all a while back you were part Jewish....


As I recall I said my grandmother claimed her grandmother was "Grandma Moses" and from that you decided I was truely Jewish. I think the assumption was stupid but I could be wrong. I don't want ro dishonor my grandmother... do you?

Are you Jewish?
Apr 5, 2012 5:15 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
Paldi5: As I recall I said my grandmother claimed her grandmother was "Grandma Moses" and from that you decided I was truely Jewish. I think the assumption was stupid but I could be wrong. I don't want ro dishonor my grandmother... do you?

Are you Jewish?


More and More OBFUSCATION....

Love it....


If I had the time or the inclintion I would find your post and Nope I am not Jewish....Which of course you already know as I told you a long time back I was a good Catholic lad.

Now care to get back to the thread....?

grin cheers


Oh and 181 is still the Acein the pack...grin
Apr 5, 2012 5:32 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Still trying to figure out why the majority here hate to have Isreal as country? Why they hate the decision of generation before us. Like the people of those generations did not have these debates in making the decision(s).

They did.

England had extensive discussion that led up to the Balfour agreement. The UN had extensive discussions on resolution 181.

This just goes to prove that many in the world will not accept history or the decisions of earlier generations. Hence they are doomed to make the same mistakes, cause the same heart aches, and achieve little in their small life times.
Apr 5, 2012 5:53 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
ttom500: Still trying to figure out why the majority here hate to have Isreal as country? Why they hate the decision of generation before us. Like the people of those generations did not have these debates in making the decision(s).

They did.

England had extensive discussion that led up to the Balfour agreement. The UN had extensive discussions on resolution 181.

This just goes to prove that many in the world will not accept history or the decisions of earlier generations. Hence they are doomed to make the same mistakes, cause the same heart aches, and achieve little in their small life times.


When the Bible was written, the world was flat and the sun and stars revolved around the Earth. It may have appeared that placing Israel in the middle of a billion Arabs was a good idea at the time, but are the results to date worth it? I'd rather they gave Jerusalem to the Pope.
Apr 5, 2012 6:37 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
Paldi5: When the Bible was written, the world was flat and the sun and stars revolved around the Earth. It may have appeared that placing Israel in the middle of a billion Arabs was a good idea at the time, but are the results to date worth it? I'd rather they gave Jerusalem to the Pope.


More rubbish.....

World Population



Total World Population in Selected Years:

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Population

(in millions)

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5000 BC

5
4000 BC

7
3000 BC

14
2000 BC

27
1000 BC

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500 BC

100
200 BC

150
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200 AD

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400 AD

190
500 AD

190
600 AD

200
700 AD

210
800 AD

220
900 AD

240
1000 AD


Love your research......

181 is fact and LEGAL....Live with it grin cheers
Apr 5, 2012 6:41 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Class5
Class5Class5Skankytown, Queensland Australia4 Threads 1,010 Posts
maxmate1: Ok so I understand you don't really have SPECIFIC Answers to my posts posts#671,678,680,706 and 707.

Relax! I rest my case here. You may continue your propaganda. Stir more hatred based on religion. Do what you do best.



Hey Princess...you just proved my point. Furthermore, I have not stirred any hate or promulgated anything that could be considered propaganda.

Poor Princess, having to resort to lies again. comfort

P.S. I hope you do rest your case because you're getting very boring. laugh
Apr 5, 2012 6:42 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Class5
Class5Class5Skankytown, Queensland Australia4 Threads 1,010 Posts
Paldi5: Well said! I for one, have enjoyed your posts and agree with much that you have to say.


You would being anti-semitic. I've been waiting for you to show up. You've been skirting around this thread for days.
Apr 5, 2012 9:33 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
Nice research Pat but it fails to mention how many arabs there were surrounding Israel in 1948 or today, which was my point.
Apr 5, 2012 9:38 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
So what if I can't spell? My grandpop was telling me his story, not writing me letters. Grandmom said I'm 1/64th Jew... maybe...does it really matter? The world isn't flat, the sun doesn't revolve around the center of the world, aka Jerusalem, and the Jews ain't chosen. Deal with it.

Sue me. :)
Apr 6, 2012 2:08 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
bestbefore
bestbeforebestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK116 Threads 2 Polls 4,701 Posts
Paldi5: Nice research Pat but it fails to mention how many arabs there were surrounding Israel in 1948 or today, which was my point.


You obviously are selective about what you read in the threads.

There have been Jews in this area since before Christ. Fact.
Apr 6, 2012 3:03 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
Paldi5: Nice research Pat but it fails to mention how many arabs there were surrounding Israel in 1948 or today, which was my point.


So why quote biblical times as you did......Paldi you chop nd chnge....But 181 does not

It is both Valid and legal unlike your points...grin cheers
Apr 6, 2012 3:15 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
maxmate1
maxmate1maxmate1Dubai, United Arab Emirates1 Threads 963 Posts
Paldi5: Well said! I for one, have enjoyed your posts and agree with much that you have to say.


Thanks Paldi, I would continue to reason with logic, premise and historical patterns of the sugarcoated tyranny that still prevails in this age of so called enlightenment. The idea is to get to the truth and hold it firm.

However, their idea remains to implicate the revelation of truth with racial and religeous bias. So, they would never come to the table for the debate, and would rather continue to hooliganise the whole presentation. Which is understandable being thier sole objective.

So, they STILL have no answers to my posts# 671,678,680,706 and 707.

And for UN181, I would recall words of Martin Luthar King "Unearned suffering is Redemptive"
Apr 6, 2012 3:18 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
maxmate1
maxmate1maxmate1Dubai, United Arab Emirates1 Threads 963 Posts
FirasLion: I really see no reason to discus any things with those "people" you know them already,they fake history and they rewrite it and teach it in their schools !! So Hypnotizing,Hypnotizing You can't blame them.

Remember they can change every things,they even blame so called the holocaust on Muslims and the Arabs.

In the same time they occupy countries and they steel every things and kill humans,plants,animals and bring democracy in it.

Disgusting


Correction please, decomcracy reporting to a monarchy! doh
Apr 6, 2012 3:36 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
maxmate1: Thanks Paldi, I would continue to reason with logic, premise and historical patterns of the sugarcoated tyranny that still prevails in this age of so called enlightenment. The idea is to get to the truth and hold it firm.

However, their idea remains to implicate the revelation of truth with racial and religeous bias. So, they would never come to the table for the debate, and would rather continue to hooliganise the whole presentation. Which is understandable being thier sole objective.

So, they STILL have no answers to my posts# 671,678,680,706 and 707.

And for UN181, I would recall words of Martin Luthar King "Unearned suffering is Redemptive"


Recall who you like...

181 is valid and Legal.....Live with it....And do try to live in peace....


Just waiting for the it's their fault rubbish as we know who started the war in 48 and who lost....And did so every time...

Discussion and acceptance is the key not war....grin cheers
Apr 6, 2012 3:38 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Class5
Class5Class5Skankytown, Queensland Australia4 Threads 1,010 Posts
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Apr 6, 2012 3:41 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
maxmate1
maxmate1maxmate1Dubai, United Arab Emirates1 Threads 963 Posts
Paldi5: I know that... seems the Brits and French screwed it up by dividing the Syrian population... nothing new there.


I have already explained in great detail, through my posts#671,678,680,706 and 707,, the imperial pattern of divide and rule. In continuity of which let's have a look at the US Declaration of Independence, 80% of which is a charge sheet against KING George of Britain..Exactly an impeachment for trial..

"He has constrained our fellow citizens taken captive on the high seas to bear arms against their country, to become the executioners of their friends and brethren, or to fall themselves by their hands. "

"He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us......"

"He is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the head of a civilized nation."

"He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burned our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people"

One can read the entire Declaration of Independence here



So America was made, nations around the globe, more than half of global population, had "Riddance" of tyranny. UN181 will be redeemed too....for truth and justice prevail eventually!
Apr 6, 2012 3:43 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
bestbefore
bestbeforebestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK116 Threads 2 Polls 4,701 Posts
patmac: Recall who you like...

181 is valid and Legal.....Live with it....And do try to live in peace....Just waiting for the it's their fault rubbish as we know who started the war in 48 and who lost....And did so every time...

Discussion and acceptance is the key not war....



So much for the so called peace lovers on this site. Their hatred speaks volumes about Israel and the Jews, when the Israelite's history speaks for itself.

They hop over the fence whenever it suits them.


Peace is for everybody not just the select few.doh
Apr 6, 2012 3:44 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
maxmate1
maxmate1maxmate1Dubai, United Arab Emirates1 Threads 963 Posts
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Apr 6, 2012 3:44 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Class5
Class5Class5Skankytown, Queensland Australia4 Threads 1,010 Posts
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Apr 6, 2012 3:45 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
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Apr 6, 2012 3:47 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
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Apr 6, 2012 3:50 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Class5
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Apr 6, 2012 3:54 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
maxmate1: I have already explained in great detail, through my posts#671,678,680,706 and 707,, the imperial pattern of divide and rule. In continuity of which let's have a look at the US Declaration of Independence, 80% of which is a charge sheet against KING George of Britain..Exactly an impeachment for trial..

"He has constrained our fellow citizens taken captive on the high seas to bear arms against their country, to become the executioners of their friends and brethren, or to fall themselves by their hands. "

"He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us......"

"He is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the head of a civilized nation."

"He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burned our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people"

One can read the entire Declaration of Independence here



So America was made, nations around the globe, more than half of global population, had "Riddance" of tyranny. UN181 will be redeemed too....for truth and justice prevail eventually!


Waffle all you like 181 was passed by the UN and 75% voted for it.

The Aras never accepted it and DECLARED WAR....Fact

Bigger fact they lost and have squealed unfair ever since.

And still you rant on.

181 is valid and legal....Live with it. Or if you want to change it NEGOTIATE....But WAR nope how many times can you lose?


Ever since 48 lost the lot and you do know If Israel wanted to get aggresive it could do so much damage. But they do not.

See a pattern emerging...Try a new approach and discuss peacefully if you can ever get enough Arabs to agree. Now that is impossible....
grin cheers
Apr 6, 2012 3:57 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Class5
Class5Class5Skankytown, Queensland Australia4 Threads 1,010 Posts
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