Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state? (802)

The only thing that will change is that when the Arabs get the Nuclear bomb Israel will be wiped off the map.!!....
Millions will be killed on both sides...Europe will take sides...oil supplies will be lost...the world will go into HUGE recession...turmoil and famine will ensue...especially for poor underdeveloped countries.!!

ALL BECAUSE OF ARTICLE 181.!!!!

Can you deny THIS happening Patmac.????:

frustrated:

And the chosen watered the desert with Palestinian blood.
And there sprang forth machine gun tower trees, and barbed wire vines.
And there rained down from heaven a glowing mist of white phosphorus and nerve gas to water the garden. And the chosen beheld the garden that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

What then is 242?

The Security Council,

Expressing its continuing concern with the grave situation in the Middle East,

Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in which every State in the area can live in security,

Emphasizing further that all Member States in their acceptance of the Charter of the United Nations have undertaken a commitment to act in accordance with Article 2 of the Charter,

Affirms that the fulfillment of Charter principles requires the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should include the application of both the following principles:

Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;

[The entire West Bank, Gaza, The Golan Heights etc.]


Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force;

Affirms further the necessity

For guaranteeing freedom of navigation through international waterways in the area;

For achieving a just settlement of the refugee problem;

For guaranteeing the territorial inviolability and political independence of every State in the area, through measures including the establishment of demilitarized zones;

Sure it was only Isreali that were running tanks across the desert and on the Golden Heights in the war of in the 72 war, in the 6 Day War, in the yon Kipper war, in the Lebanon conflicts, in the other conflict between them. No Muslim ever got into a tank, or a aircraft or carried a weapon during these wars. They are all innocent by standers.......

I am still trying to figure out American Indian and the western movement of whites have to do with the Israel/Palestine issue of today. There is only a ocean between the two. Only 140 years in time. The only similarity, I can see.....the nomadic nature of Indians and Arabs.

AND no one has answered my question to how nomadic people can own land.
Says resident loon......LOL

Since noone is going to shed light on how the Palestines got to living around the Jewish nation question that I have raised. E.G. Went from a nomadic people to town and city types.

Maybe I can answer the question. Because it happened in American west of the late 1800s and early 1900s as well.

As tribes break apart they get smaller and smaller in number. This can happen for a number of reasons. Suiox, Crowe, Latoka, Navaho, Apache and Comanche....all begin to migrate in small family units or individual to western cities and town.

The old store wooden Indian chief was carved because of that migration to the migration to settled areas of the US. People want to survive. No mater race or culture....many did not want reservation life. Preferred to live along side the White man.

I think that this is exactly how the Palestine came to be along side and mixed with Jewish nation. As smaller tribes of bedioun broke apart or they were to old for the rugged life of desert...they moved into
locations near the Jewish nation towns and villages.

Not only that, but Israel was the cross road of the world. People moved into and from the area all the time. From all directions. If you did not have the Jewish culture there.....and with it principles of charity and giving....do you think that the relocates would have lived?

You have Jesus story with the Samarian women at the well to back this up by way. Saramian and Jews were not suppose to associate with the other. But every time she went to the well....a Jewish well mind you.
She rubbed elbows enough with the Jews....enough to know of Christ's coming.

Just maybe the Jewish people in antiquity.....aided the Palestine people to live in the region.

I guess Maxmate, Ray, and few other's in this thread are not going to sign the "Support Israel" online petition that is being advertised.

If you do change your minds, they will let sign the petition in bold colors if you want to!