Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state? (802)
chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 PostsAlbertaghost: that there was a nation of Israel and Judea prior while never one of Palestine is a fact you just can't get away from.
Greeks as a Nation all over Sicily and South of Italy,in the past,shall we claim it from Italy???
chris27292729: Greeks as a Nation all over Sicily and South of Italy,in the past,shall we claim it from Italy???
What Greece?
RayfromUSA: A worldwide cabal steals an entire nation and gets away with it for 60 years by convincing people that they had some sort of ancient right to the land they stole, even though it was never ever their land at any time in history.
That sounds like a real conspiracy to me. Conrad.
And those who support it are either conspirators themselves or lack any sort of reasoning capability.
Or both.
That sounds like a real conspiracy to me. Conrad.
And those who support it are either conspirators themselves or lack any sort of reasoning capability.
Or both.
Ray, nobody stole anything as it was given to them by the majority of the world. That Palestinians refused the same deal based on the same homeland right is another fact.
As for a 'worldwide cabal,' it's another factless conspiracy by yourself.
chris27292729: Greeks as a Nation all over Sicily and South of Italy,in the past,shall we claim it from Italy???
When 78% of the world awards it to you then I would say it is alright. Let me know when this happens!
Albertaghost: Ray, they haven't taken over anything in all these centuries...
That's not true.
They've taken over country after country.
And ruled them brutally.
They rule all of the G8 countries now.
And they are preparing for world government.
But they (the globalists) are planning to dump their political golem, Zionism (rabid Jewish nationalism).
Power will still rest in the hands of the international bankers which are highly over-represented with Jews.
But they will no longer even pretend to support Zionism or the Zionist state of Israel. In fact they will make a point of dismantling both.
Zionism and the Zionist state were a temporary means to an end.
They served their purpose, but now they are in the way of the true globalist goal, which is world dictatorship.
So, When you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, that would be a great time for you to go visit the holy land.
RayfromUSA: That's not true.
They've taken over country after country.
And ruled them brutally.
They rule all of the G8 countries now.
And they are preparing for world government.
But they (the globalists) are planning to dump their political golem, Zionism (rabid Jewish nationalism).
Power will still rest in the hands of the international bankers which are highly over-represented with Jews.
But they will no longer even pretend to support Zionism or the Zionist state of Israel. In fact they will make a point of dismantling both.
Zionism and the Zionist state were a temporary means to an end.
They served their purpose, but now they are in the way of the true globalist goal, which is world dictatorship.
So, When you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, that would be a great time for you to go visit the holy land.
so you finally arrived at your favorite Theme,the Joos dood it all!They've taken over country after country.
And ruled them brutally.
They rule all of the G8 countries now.
And they are preparing for world government.
But they (the globalists) are planning to dump their political golem, Zionism (rabid Jewish nationalism).
Power will still rest in the hands of the international bankers which are highly over-represented with Jews.
But they will no longer even pretend to support Zionism or the Zionist state of Israel. In fact they will make a point of dismantling both.
Zionism and the Zionist state were a temporary means to an end.
They served their purpose, but now they are in the way of the true globalist goal, which is world dictatorship.
So, When you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, that would be a great time for you to go visit the holy land.
The Joos control it all!Ray,you're a scream,but I knew you'd deliver sooner or later!
Conrad73: so you finally arrived at your favorite Theme,the Joos dood it all!
You summarize your own thoughts and let me summarize mine.
I appreciate the effort, it's just that you're clueless.
RayfromUSA: You summarize your own thoughts and let me summarize mine.
I appreciate the effort, it's just that you're clueless.
well,Ray,you dood it!I appreciate the effort, it's just that you're clueless.
You put your Foot in it!
epirb: Bits of what you say are true here RAY . Adolf Eichmann did meet with some Jews (ergun ,I think )about transfering Jews to Palestine , he was not able to pull it off , could well be because of Attlee . Eichmann ( hope I have spelt his name right)was the only man the Jews ever hung for WW11 crimes . 50 years ago come the end of may .
Yes, and there was the Madagascar plan too, but it doesn't support his original contention in any way. That is quite a stretch of the imagination.
Class5: Yes, and there was the Madagascar plan too, but it doesn't support his original contention in any way. That is quite a stretch of the imagination.
Note: The failure of any posited idea of relocating European Jewry resulted in the extermination plan, hence the term "Final Solution".
Albertaghost: Hmmm, doing the math now ...... ten million Jews, only a few of them Zionists according to your silly site so, to be generous, three million of them. So, the world with seven billion people on it is going to be ruled by three million Jews. Sorry, Zionists.
That's one for every three thousand people. Difficult to administrate Ray but, it's your vision so please carry on.
That's one for every three thousand people. Difficult to administrate Ray but, it's your vision so please carry on.
Oh sorry, didn't quite finish. Forgo0t that half of them will be either older or children and half of that female so, make that one for every twelve thousand people. Or, one to rule every large town or city.
I wonder, will the Chinese like this plan? Is it going to replace communism there? How is Kuwait or Saudi Arabia going to take it having a Rabbi rule over Mecca?
Please explain the plan Ray as you are starting to get rather entertaining.
"The real problem with Israel is that they can not multiply. Only through blood. No one can convert to a Jew (hope people know that)"
Eh?
Please enlighten me with your explanation to your statement. Equally where were you educated about this point and who was it that provided this education? How long have known this?
Eh?
Please enlighten me with your explanation to your statement. Equally where were you educated about this point and who was it that provided this education? How long have known this?
robel: "The real problem with Israel is that they can not multiply. Only through blood. No one can convert to a Jew (hope people know that)"
Eh?
Please enlighten me with your explanation to your statement. Equally where were you educated about this point and who was it that provided this education? How long have known this?
Eh?
Please enlighten me with your explanation to your statement. Equally where were you educated about this point and who was it that provided this education? How long have known this?
Seems the two most uninformed people on the thread actually contradict themselves. Ray says the original Jews from Israel are not the ones who rightfully have returned home but rather have been converted from the ones who were originally there to begin with. He doesn't mention the ones who are descended from the originals but rather concentrates on the converted ones which according to Max there cannot be any because they are not permitted to allow non Jews to be part of them and con version is not permitted.
A conundrum indeed!
robel: "The real problem with Israel is that they can not multiply. Only through blood. No one can convert to a Jew (hope people know that)"
Eh?
Please enlighten me with your explanation to your statement. Equally where were you educated about this point and who was it that provided this education? How long have known this?
Eh?
Please enlighten me with your explanation to your statement. Equally where were you educated about this point and who was it that provided this education? How long have known this?
Mate, it's wrong. See the following link:
maxmate1: The real problem with Israel is that they can not multiply. Only through blood. No one can convert to a Jew (hope people know that)
I guess you 'hope' people 'know' that as you are wrong as usual so hope is all you have.
maxmate1: With all the weapons Israel could have "ended" the conflict. Yes. And given Israel's rougue behaviour and intentions, They could have. But why not? They know very well why not, they are too few in numbers to go so overboard in the illegal occupation.
Better tell Ray, he thinks there's enough of them to rule the world!
Conrad73: started actually in 1933,and went on until 1945!
Resettling the Jews was a Farce,considering the amount of Jews in Eastern Europe,and the killing actually started in the Camps even before the War,albeit not in the coordinated Fashion of the later years!
some of you,you know who you are,PooPoo the Link have a look at the External ones at the end of the Article,if you're capable of comprehending!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_%28resources%29
Resettling the Jews was a Farce,considering the amount of Jews in Eastern Europe,and the killing actually started in the Camps even before the War,albeit not in the coordinated Fashion of the later years!
some of you,you know who you are,PooPoo the Link have a look at the External ones at the end of the Article,if you're capable of comprehending!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_%28resources%29
Ain't it like Ray to attempt to justify the killing of six million people to further his bigotry.
Sure it was a secret plan by the Jews themselves. Their so tricky they even invented morons to continue and quote you tube to propagate this idiocy!
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may have kept going alittle longer , there was a ship kept from landing in the promised land full of DP's , blew up , just to good a timing to be an accident . Don't remember the name but it had thousands on . Course , could have been the DP Jews .
epirb: may have kept going alittle longer , there was a ship kept from landing in the promised land full of DP's , blew up , just to good a timing to be an accident . Don't remember the name but it had thousands on . Course , could have been the DP Jews .
The Haganah set that one off in order to damage it enough to not be able to take the passengers away to some other country. They screwed up and put a little too much tnt and killed a couple hundred people. The survivors were allowed to stay though.
Not the one , this was after the war, while there was fighting between the BA and {? ergun hugana} and the arabs maybe stern gang as well . Got very bitter , english dead had bobby traps on them placed by Jews .
Albertaghost: If they had only gone to Greece Chris's relatives could have given them a train ride back to Germany.
yeah,right!
epirb: Not the one , this was after the war, while there was fighting between the BA and {? ergun hugana} and the arabs maybe stern gang as well . Got very bitter , english dead had bobby traps on them placed by Jews .
it got quite bitter,especially after the Brits sided with the Arab League in '48!robel: "The real problem with Israel is that they can not multiply. Only through blood. No one can convert to a Jew (hope people know that)"
Eh?
Please enlighten me with your explanation to your statement. Equally where were you educated about this point and who was it that provided this education? How long have known this?
Eh?
Please enlighten me with your explanation to your statement. Equally where were you educated about this point and who was it that provided this education? How long have known this?
You seem to be a jew yourself and asking me to explain? Okay. A jew is only by birth and not converted (other than propaganda), like in christianity, buddhism or Islam where anyone can convert to.
Jewish? No. how blood-line oriented they are. Correct me if I'm wrong. How many people are converting to being Jewish? have any statistics?
maxmate1: You seem to be a jew yourself and asking me to explain? Okay. A jew is only by birth and not converted (other than propaganda), like in christianity, buddhism or Islam where anyone can convert to.
Jewish? No. how blood-line oriented they are. Correct me if I'm wrong. How many people are converting to being Jewish? have any statistics?
OK,Max,now let's see the proof for your Contention!Jewish? No. how blood-line oriented they are. Correct me if I'm wrong. How many people are converting to being Jewish? have any statistics?
maxmate1: You seem to be a jew yourself and asking me to explain? Okay. A jew is only by birth and not converted (other than propaganda), like in christianity, buddhism or Islam where anyone can convert to.
Jewish? No. how blood-line oriented they are. Correct me if I'm wrong. How many people are converting to being Jewish? have any statistics?
Jewish? No. how blood-line oriented they are. Correct me if I'm wrong. How many people are converting to being Jewish? have any statistics?
I'm not Jewish and am telling you you're dead wrong. A simple search on the internet or of famous people who have converted should suffice.
As for how many, when you research to find the truth you will come across those figures so happy hunting my uninformed friend!
RayfromUSA: That's not true.
They've taken over country after country.
And ruled them brutally.
They rule all of the G8 countries now.
And they are preparing for world government.
But they (the globalists) are planning to dump their political golem, Zionism (rabid Jewish nationalism).
Power will still rest in the hands of the international bankers which are highly over-represented with Jews.
But they will no longer even pretend to support Zionism or the Zionist state of Israel. In fact they will make a point of dismantling both.
Zionism and the Zionist state were a temporary means to an end.
They served their purpose, but now they are in the way of the true globalist goal, which is world dictatorship.
So, When you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, that would be a great time for you to go visit the holy land.
They've taken over country after country.
And ruled them brutally.
They rule all of the G8 countries now.
And they are preparing for world government.
But they (the globalists) are planning to dump their political golem, Zionism (rabid Jewish nationalism).
Power will still rest in the hands of the international bankers which are highly over-represented with Jews.
But they will no longer even pretend to support Zionism or the Zionist state of Israel. In fact they will make a point of dismantling both.
Zionism and the Zionist state were a temporary means to an end.
They served their purpose, but now they are in the way of the true globalist goal, which is world dictatorship.
So, When you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, that would be a great time for you to go visit the holy land.
The imperial aggression is the real mother that gave birth to all this chaos. Still the Monarchy is silently advancing it's agendas even when it has been expelled shamefully from may regions it colonised. Globalisation is it's new weapon.
And am not surprised, the same group of a few (5-6), the same faces, have ganged up on your posts. They are known allies already. So waste of time trying to convince them on TRUTH, that they think they can continue to lie about.
Israel is a temporary country, stolen from a real country, coerced upon by the Imperial Monarchy. How Royal is that?
maxmate1: The imperial aggression is the real mother that gave birth to all this chaos. Still the Monarchy is silently advancing it's agendas even when it has been expelled shamefully from may regions it colonised. Globalisation is it's new weapon.
And am not surprised, the same group of a few (5-6), the same faces, have ganged up on your posts. They are known allies already. So waste of time trying to convince them on TRUTH, that they think they can continue to lie about.
Israel is a temporary country, stolen from a real country, coerced upon by the Imperial Monarchy. How Royal is that?
Conspiracy-Theory anyone?And am not surprised, the same group of a few (5-6), the same faces, have ganged up on your posts. They are known allies already. So waste of time trying to convince them on TRUTH, that they think they can continue to lie about.
Israel is a temporary country, stolen from a real country, coerced upon by the Imperial Monarchy. How Royal is that?
Have a look Max , just had a look you should find heaps of info on the subject . Strange how you call going Jewish is propaganda , but I guess going Islamic is all good stuff , why is this Max ? Just a little twofaced or something more sinister like this thread ?
maxmate1: The imperial aggression is the real mother that gave birth to all this chaos. Still the Monarchy is silently advancing it's agendas even when it has been expelled shamefully from may regions it colonised. Globalisation is it's new weapon.
And am not surprised, the same group of a few (5-6), the same faces, have ganged up on your posts. They are known allies already. So waste of time trying to convince them on TRUTH, that they think they can continue to lie about.
Israel is a temporary country, stolen from a real country, coerced upon by the Imperial Monarchy. How Royal is that?
yep,Max,the UK,which at the moment has two Independence Movements to contend with in it's own Country,is involved with Israel to regain all the Colonies it has given Independence to since 1947!And am not surprised, the same group of a few (5-6), the same faces, have ganged up on your posts. They are known allies already. So waste of time trying to convince them on TRUTH, that they think they can continue to lie about.
Israel is a temporary country, stolen from a real country, coerced upon by the Imperial Monarchy. How Royal is that?
Max you're a Joke!
Small wonder with that Conspiratorial Bend of your Mind,you lap up Ray's "Theories"!
maxmate1:
And am not surprised, the same group of a few (5-6), the same faces, have ganged up on your posts. They are known allies already. So waste of time trying to convince them on TRUTH, that they think they can continue to lie about.
And am not surprised, the same group of a few (5-6), the same faces, have ganged up on your posts. They are known allies already. So waste of time trying to convince them on TRUTH, that they think they can continue to lie about.
Truth such as what you state with nobody being able to convert to Judaism is either a lie or complete idiocy on your part so it is no wonder you view anybody with a fact or logical argument as ganging up on you.
Poor you, your wold is filled with enemies since you have so little to argue with.
maxmate1:
Israel is a temporary country, stolen from a real country, coerced upon by the Imperial Monarchy. How Royal is that?
Israel is a temporary country, stolen from a real country, coerced upon by the Imperial Monarchy. How Royal is that?
What country was that Max? What was their capital, their monetary unit, their leaders? Their political system and who were their ambassadors to other nations names?
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