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Mar 23, 2009 5:40 PM CST Prove to me....
Shedman01
Shedman01Shedman01Gonzales, Texas USA16 Threads 2 Polls 1,029 Posts
I see many people posting that they want proof that God exists. Sure this want, desire, demand, of proof that God exists is being manifested in many ways, such as biblical belief etc. But it really seems to boil down simply to many folks seeking proof that God exists.

Perhaps they are trying to change the minds of others, or perhaps they are looking for that proof so they too can believe. Perhaps some others are trying to convince themselves of their own belief whatever it may be. I surely can not guess to the reasons or motivations behind some of the very blatant postings I have seen some individuals post, and my above reflects only some views I have encountered in my many years on the Internet when I have asked people why they want proof of God, etc.

Anyway to the topic of the thread. I thought it might be interesting to flip the table a little on some of the more vocal posters that continue to ask for proof that God does exist or continue to assert that he is a mass delusion, or other some such humanistic imagination,

So here is my thread topic...

Prove to me... God does not exist.


I look forward to a few replies if anyone is willing to offer some proof that God is imaginary or does not exist etc, or perhaps since that may be difficult to do I will allow for a sideline proof as well...

Prove to me... that "omnipresence" is impossible, or in essence does not exist.


Now then because of the title and manner in which I have laid out the thread let us all assume that every posting made to this thread will be directed SOLELY at me, this may help keep folks from arguing among themselves and stick better to the request of the thread, prove to me... smile

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Mar 23, 2009 5:46 PM CST Prove to me....
hopefloats
hopefloatshopefloatsSlim's Lady, Tennessee USA51 Threads 6,660 Posts
Wow, Shedman you are a brave soul! Good luck, "maybe" your posters won't get this thread locked. handshake stuck
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Mar 23, 2009 5:49 PM CST Prove to me....
Shedman01
Shedman01Shedman01Gonzales, Texas USA16 Threads 2 Polls 1,029 Posts
Hiya Hopewave I think it will be ok. thumbs up at least for a while, who knows maybe it won't get much of anything. dunno will be interesting to find out though. smile

wave
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Mar 23, 2009 5:52 PM CST Prove to me....
hopefloats
hopefloatshopefloatsSlim's Lady, Tennessee USA51 Threads 6,660 Posts
Shedman01: Hiya Hope I think it will be ok. at least for a while, who knows maybe it won't get much of anything. will be interesting to find out though.


No worries. Some weird things will come out of the woodwork later. I see you've had plenty of views already.wave
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Mar 23, 2009 5:54 PM CST Prove to me....
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Good luck, Jon. wine

Sorry, since I see and feel God all around me, I can't prove to you that it doesn't exist. And I agree with Hope...you're a brave soul for this one. laugh Bless you...and I hope it stays positive. hug
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Mar 23, 2009 5:56 PM CST Prove to me....
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
hopefloats: Wow, Shedman you are a brave soul! .
Actually he is kind of an idiot (no offence intended) if he wrote this as a serious thread ,
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Mar 23, 2009 5:57 PM CST Prove to me....
hopefloats
hopefloatshopefloatsSlim's Lady, Tennessee USA51 Threads 6,660 Posts
druidess6308: Good luck, Jon.

Sorry, since I see and feel God all around me, I can't prove to you that it doesn't exist. And I agree with Hope...you're a brave soul for this one. Bless you...and I hope it stays positive.



wine hug
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Mar 23, 2009 5:58 PM CST Prove to me....
hopefloats
hopefloatshopefloatsSlim's Lady, Tennessee USA51 Threads 6,660 Posts
crotalus_p: Actually he is kind of an idiot (no offence intended) if he wrote this as a serious thread ,



As I'm sure you will try to prove him wrong.roll eyes
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Mar 23, 2009 5:59 PM CST Prove to me....
Shedman01
Shedman01Shedman01Gonzales, Texas USA16 Threads 2 Polls 1,029 Posts
I don't think I would call myself brave, I am not worried of any physical harm or anything that I would think 'bravery' is needed for...dunno but I thank you for the compliment to my character that you have expressed. smile I think folks will be ok expressing their proof. I have 'faith' in them to be open and offer what they can in such a way that I would want to believe what they offer...
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Mar 23, 2009 5:59 PM CST Prove to me....
Aries01
Aries01Aries01Kent, England UK47 Threads 4 Polls 2,732 Posts
In Jesus time the pharisees... did not believe...even though they stood there and watched Jesus perform amazing miracles... sadly there are some people who just don't BELIEVE.. the key is faith I think... cause even if it was possible to call on Jesus in person introduce him to each individual non-believer.. AND get him to raise the dead before their eyes...well.. they still wouldn't believe laugh...
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Mar 23, 2009 5:59 PM CST Prove to me....
Shedman01
Shedman01Shedman01Gonzales, Texas USA16 Threads 2 Polls 1,029 Posts
crotalus_p: Actually he is kind of an idiot (no offence intended) if he wrote this as a serious thread ,


None taken grin

But do tell why? Because in fact it is a serious thread to me.
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Mar 23, 2009 6:00 PM CST Prove to me....
takeit4granted
takeit4grantedtakeit4grantednew berlin, Wisconsin USA4 Threads 785 Posts
I'm not a religious person,,my beliefs are more agnostic. From a laymens perspective,,,to many different perceptions of who "God" is,,or,,which higher power really did exist. While the scientific explanation seems to be universal
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Mar 23, 2009 6:01 PM CST Prove to me....
NeWildflower
NeWildflowerNeWildflowerScottsbluff, Nebraska USA15 Threads 2 Polls 754 Posts
crotalus_p: Actually he is kind of an idiot (no offence intended) if he wrote this as a serious thread ,


Wow.. how ignorant of you. No offense intended.

Sorry Shed.
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Mar 23, 2009 6:02 PM CST Prove to me....
Shedman01
Shedman01Shedman01Gonzales, Texas USA16 Threads 2 Polls 1,029 Posts
Aries01: In Jesus time the pharisees... did not believe...even though they stood there and watched Jesus perform amazing miracles... sadly there are some people who just don't BELIEVE.. the key is faith I think... cause even if it was possible to call on Jesus in person introduce him to each individual non-believer.. AND get him to raise the dead before their eyes...well.. they still wouldn't believe ...


Hi Aries... I am not by any means asking anyone to believe, in fact I have no expectation of that what-so-ever... I merely would like proof that God does not exist. Doesn't matter to me if they believe in something or nothing... dunno But thank you for your posting, I very much appreciate the time taken to let me know your thoughts.

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Mar 23, 2009 6:03 PM CST Prove to me....
Olsojente
OlsojenteOlsojenteOslo/Zadar, Oslo Norway51 Threads 5 Polls 5,070 Posts
crotalus_p: Actually he is kind of an idiot (no offence intended) if he wrote this as a serious thread ,



I had a little bet with myself who'd be in here first, you or Trish....laugh


I won!!!yay
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Mar 23, 2009 6:05 PM CST Prove to me....
hopefloats
hopefloatshopefloatsSlim's Lady, Tennessee USA51 Threads 6,660 Posts
Olsojente: I had a little bet with myself who'd be in here first, you or Trish.... I won!!!



Didn't we all!rolling on the floor laughing tongue
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Mar 23, 2009 6:05 PM CST Prove to me....
Shedman01
Shedman01Shedman01Gonzales, Texas USA16 Threads 2 Polls 1,029 Posts
takeit4granted: I'm not a religious person,,my beliefs are more agnostic. From a laymens perspective,,,to many different perceptions of who "God" is,,or,,which higher power really did exist. While the scientific explanation seems to be universal


Sorry I am not quite understanding if you are stating God does not exist or does...or are you trying to assert that God is a relative term assigned to some other scientific existence? Sorry to ask you to offer more, I am just uncertain of your posting so hope to get clarification.

wave
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Mar 23, 2009 6:05 PM CST Prove to me....
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
Shedman01: None taken

But do tell why? Because in fact it is a serious thread to me.
no1 Because you are asking people to prove a negative , no2 all atheists that are reasonably intelligent will tell you that technically they are agnostic when it comes to a god no3 now if you want people to disprove different a particular god you will have to name which one you are talking about
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Mar 23, 2009 6:06 PM CST Prove to me....
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
Aries01: AND get him to raise the dead before their eyes...well.. they still wouldn't believe ...
On the contrary if I saw that and could be sure it was not faked of course I would believe scold
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Mar 23, 2009 6:08 PM CST Prove to me....
buzzy
buzzybuzzybiddeford, Maine USA24 Threads 1,492 Posts
Shedman01: I see many people posting that they want proof that God exists. Sure this want, desire, demand, of proof that God exists is being manifested in many ways, such as biblical belief etc. But it really seems to boil down simply to many folks seeking proof that God exists.

Perhaps they are trying to change the minds of others, or perhaps they are looking for that proof so they too can believe. Perhaps some others are trying to convince themselves of their own belief whatever it may be. I surely can not guess to the reasons or motivations behind some of the very blatant postings I have seen some individuals post, and my above reflects only some views I have encountered in my many years on the Internet when I have asked people why they want proof of God, etc.

Anyway to the topic of the thread. I thought it might be interesting to flip the table a little on some of the more vocal posters that continue to ask for proof that God does exist or continue to assert that he is a mass delusion, or other some such humanistic imagination,

So here is my thread topic...

Prove to me... God does not exist.


I look forward to a few replies if anyone is willing to offer some proof that God is imaginary or does not exist etc, or perhaps since that may be difficult to do I will allow for a sideline proof as well...

Prove to me... that "omnipresence" is impossible, or in essence does not exist.


Now then because of the title and manner in which I have laid out the thread let us all assume that every posting made to this thread will be directed SOLELY at me, this may help keep folks from arguing among themselves and stick better to the request of the thread, prove to me... me


If one cannot prove god does exist, how can one prove god doesn't? If one belives god exist, then it does. If one believes god does not exist, then it doesn't.
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