Return to sender
Seems whilst we've been talking about the return of the ISIS bride this is just the tip of the iceberg
a tweet from President Trump -“the caliphate is ready to fall. The United States is asking Britain, France, Germany and other European allies to take back over 800 ISIS fighters that we captured in Syria and put them on trial. “The alternative is not a good one in that we will be forced to release them.”
He then went on to say “The U.S. does not want to watch as these ISIS fighters permeate Europe, which is where they are expected to go. We do so much, and spend so much - Time for others to step up and do the job that they are so capable of doing. We are pulling back after 100% caliphate victory!”
In the west we've got used to putting our rubbish in bins & leaving it to someone else to deal with, looks like we're about to get it back
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to fight with ISIS, including some Americans.
She may have a coach but she'll need a large team of horses to pull that much BS
I can not understand at all, that somebody is so concern about criminals protection and to be ready to give them a new chance to harm innocent people........one innocent death is already too much, and innocent people should be protected from these criminals, so close to 100% as possible.......some comments look to be from very twisted minds, that don't know at all anymore, who should be protected and who not
Chocolate frog
Leave her there
I still keep open mind.
Not so for ISIS soldiers though.
For one, let them rebuild the things they destroyed. What is a plan t keep them lazy here in jail. They have a debt to pay.
Forced labour for what i care.
For two, there are a lot of people still on the flight, we call them refugees. Stuck in Turkey and such,
and then you are going to give these perpetrators a voucher for showers, private bed, 3 meals and education.
Because they are 'registered Westerners' ?.
Because they are parents of Westerners, protected by the shield of having a baby?
Maybe her last resort would be The Netherlands?
Perhaps she should consider the Middle East?
why not Somalia......they have had pirates already for a long time
Anyway, just read that The Netherlands not welcoming her either.
If so personally anyone who watches beheading videos & decides to fly out to get involved is not worthy of the term human being, she didn't go out to be with a husband, she wasn't married & didn't even know her future husband, I don't care what her role was, she went out to support ISIS & for me that's all that matters.
We will never know until it's undeniably proven. How to prove it? I don't exactly know. There must be measures. Experts should know. Me no expert.
If she has taken part in illegal deeds, then she should be arrested and charged just as anybody else who has taken part in illegal deeds.
However, it has to be taken into account the fact that she could have been groomed from a very early age, maybe even 10, and children who are groomed cannot be held responsible for their actions. Rehabilitation may be the way to deal with her.
She did say her husband was in Holland, she could go there and would wait him coming out of prison.
There is war and war, and freedom fighters too, but this ISIS group can cut persons head off and post video, that is terrorizing and I can't believe they are human.
So each country they escape too should have firm views on how to deal with them, or just like a virus we will end up like old time plague.
It's not a court of law where everything has to be proved beyond a shadow of doubt, and if I did, as you suggested, start talking on a case by case basis I'm quite sure you'd write 2 pages on how I was impinging on his/her rights
You give me little credit for what I can & can't understand, I understand your point of view quite adequately, the FACT I don't agree with it has no bearing on either of us being right, and no I'm not going to prove I don't agree with you, you'll just have to take my word for it
You appear to be justifying your prejudices by blaming others for nit-picking and claiming it's somehow okay to assume the guilt of a group of people (because it's a blog), who may, or may not belong to a group called ISIS, who may, or may not have committed murder, or other atrocities, who may, or may not be adults, who may, or may not have been sold for a bounty for the political ends of a (the best case scenario) Personality Disordered president.
They may have been brainwashed, as Kal pointed out, just like anyone who thinks anything that Trump says can be taken at face value.
I stand by my original statement: if these people are treated in a humanitarian way, investigated objectively and dispassionately and given a fair trial if the evidentiary criteria are met to do so, then bring it on.
It is illegal to render someone to a country knowing that they will be subject to cruelty and/or torture.
In minimising the reason of the cell being too small and laughing, you are contributing to a world where chopping someone's head off is okay as long as you're on the right side.
None of these things are okay, no matter which group you align yourself with. The group is irrelevant. The behaviour is relevant.
Because if you render someone to a country which doesn't abide by those international laws you are breaking those international laws that you abide by.
Because if you don't abide by those laws, you are breaking your own laws.
Because if you don't abide by your own laws you leave an opening for guilty people to walk free.
Going back to Guantánamo, what is the point of having a constitution if you don't live by it? Pick and choose constitution?
Pick and choose laws? Can you not see the absolutely bleedin' obvious here?
(Oh, and because a prison cell is just a teeny weeny bit contextually different from a swimming pool.)
Some codes ISIS live by have nothing to do with human differences, they are not even human.
It's like a virus spreading evil is its name, now you either like a doctor find an antibiotic to kill virus, but as we know the virus even makes antibiotics redundant, so the ISIS virus what do we do, KILL IT? Or bar its entry, as for taking to court humanitarian judgments don't come into for this virus ISIS has lost human functions and thoughts.
What to do
Surely not just released? That's harsh.
I would suggest,,, The recital of the 10 commandments (3 times), followed by a stint in the Ritz...( to give them a taste of the infidels hospitality.) After that some land with the necessary buildings/out-buildings on etc. and a monthly Government subsidy/allowance to help them support extended families etc. If that doesn't rehabilitate those poor gents then nothing will....
Folks need to understand, stupd life decisions are forever. :)