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Jun 7, 2012 4:35 PM CST Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria
Iseek
IseekIseekWaterford, Ireland2 Threads 455 Posts
Sorry HSD, I ran out of space..


Hot_Single_Dude:
Some say it is rather risky allowing Syria going Egypt and so on and they say Alqueda is going to take over and so on but no way that will happen any way and even the begining of new gained freedom is difficult as it have been even in US back then and looked a lot like those new free arabic countries in may ways... still... things will fall on place and the country will find herself and freedom will result in much better lives for the inhabitants of syria some day soon after the dang dictator is under mudd or moved a way to refuge in a crook state some where, willing to giving him refuge.

Who Knows?

Hot_Single_Dude:
No peace to Assad regim is sense or possible what so ever... He does not GET what peace means and specially when he knows what happened to Gadhafi and so on he is not going to give a way this easy... here and now people with light arms are fighting agaisnt machine guns and choppers and tanks and soon planes as well am sure... peple alone will not be able to defeat his murderer regim and then let us help people of Syria by showing the regim the power of our arms. Assad will keep killing and he will not stop and he will in no way being willing to leave power what so ever and what ever lie he claims in the coming days will be alie and nothing than a lie. His regim is getting ready to claim have accepted a russian peace plan in the coming days and then his guns will keep shooting but using muffers so no body hears

I agree to a point, the fact that the regime is and can be capable of killing, However the rebels are and will also. And as of course you have said we do not know who the Rebels are


Hot_Single_Dude:
"All we are saying... just give peace a chance"... yeah it sounds good, but it is not doable in Syria... and Assad does not GET what peace means, and is just a bloody wapire as his dang stupid father and who ever being a part of Assad,s regim.


Yep, GREAT NOW I have that tune in my head since reading this post.. HA HA..

Kind Regards sad flower
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Jun 8, 2012 7:25 AM CST Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Reports here are that another Syrian (Sunni) atrocity has happened and that the UN Peace Keeper enroute to investigate it were fired on. That they were engaged with armor penetrating rounds. This to penetrate those Honda SUV and their body armor.

I doubt if the Syrian Freedom Army has armor penetrating rounds. They are more costly than the normal rounds. Syrian Freedom Army likely
does not have the funds for them. But maybe.

In my opinion, the UN peace keeper engagement was likely done by Assad's Army or Militias.

But anyways....just to show you that this a diversion to the world media and public opinion on Iranian nuclear issues.......

Today Iran's Ahmenajada said he doubts anything will happen in the coming Moscow P5+1 meeting. But it only got small coverage, because of the Syrian atrocity and UN Peace Keeper engagement.

The media only has so much inches of new print and only so much of air time in a day. When a big story like a atrocity occurs....a lot gets used to cover it. Iran can then back door in a statement on the Nuclear negotiations that falls into the back of paper or gets 15 seconds in a new report.

So twist Putin's arm ...........send in Russian Peace keeper under UN officers.
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Jun 8, 2012 7:41 AM CST Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria
Leanybean
LeanybeanLeanybeanSouthampton, Hampshire, England UK2 Threads 2 Polls 124 Posts
Iseek: This is a straight forward question, Why NOT give peace a chance by backing Kofi Annan to the absolute hilt FIRST, then consider other options IF peace fails?


If we back Kofi Annan, that won't be the kind of peace that we all want, because the United Nations was not established to obtain the kind of peace that we want. It was established to achieve the One World Government which is the worst thing for us that you can imagine.

For proof, read the very small edition that I published exposing the UN at It's a small edition because the thesis was so easy to prove.

The United States had a president who wanted the kind of peace that is real peace. We know him better as John F. Kennedy. The very ones who established the UN are the ones who had him assassinated.

The mayhem that is going on now in Syria is being carried out by these same ones who had Kennedy assassinated. I managed to post the truth about Syria on my second blog that's on the main page of my site too, because the mainstream media are deceiving us.

Leanybean
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Jun 8, 2012 8:03 AM CST Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Leanybean: If we back Kofi Annan, that won't be the kind of peace that we all want, because the United Nations was not established to obtain the kind of peace that we want. It was established to achieve the One World Government which is the worst thing for us that you can imagine.

For proof, read the very small edition that I published exposing the UN at It's a small edition because the thesis was so easy to prove.

The United States had a president who wanted the kind of peace that is real peace. We know him better as John F. Kennedy. The very ones who established the UN are the ones who had him assassinated.

The mayhem that is going on now in Syria is being carried out by these same ones who had Kennedy assassinated. I managed to post the truth about Syria on my second blog that's on the main page of my site too, because the mainstream media are deceiving us.

Leanybean

cool, I`ve bookmarked the link, will check it out later...
thanks...
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Jun 8, 2012 8:06 AM CST Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria
Iseek
IseekIseekWaterford, Ireland2 Threads 455 Posts
Hi TT,

ttom500: Reports here are that another Syrian (Sunni) atrocity has happened and that the UN Peace Keeper enroute to investigate it were fired on. That they were engaged with armor penetrating rounds. This to penetrate those Honda SUV and their body armor.

A Syrian (Sunni) atrocity, not a Syrian atrocity involving ....... among others, but a (Sunni) one... Hmmmm...

ttom500:
I doubt if the Syrian Freedom Army has armor penetrating rounds. They are more costly than the normal rounds. Syrian Freedom Army likely
does not have the funds for them. But maybe.

Believe me, those supplying the Rebels would consider it a good investment.

ttom500:
In my opinion, the UN peace keeper engagement was likely done by Assad's Army or Militias.

Of course, ya can't put a jigsaw together minus 1 piece..

ttom500:
But anyways....just to show you that this a diversion to the world media and public opinion on Iranian nuclear issues.......
Today Iran's Ahmenajada said he doubts anything will happen in the coming Moscow P5+1 meeting. But it only got small coverage, because of the Syrian atrocity and UN Peace Keeper engagement.

Exactly, never put faith in a media or majority of media all reporting and agreeing on the same subject, or subjects.

ttom500:
The media only has so much inches of new print and only so much of air time in a day. When a big story like a atrocity occurs....a lot gets used to cover it. Iran can then back door in a statement on the Nuclear negotiations that falls into the back of paper or gets 15 seconds in a new report.

I saw the report about P5+1, 2 days ago, on the tickers, Question everything TT, everything..

ttom500:
So twist Putin's arm ...........send in Russian Peace keeper under UN officers.

You keep saying that but never finish the statement! Or would this be JUST a ploy? Hmmm....


PEACE, plan NOT being implemented, by either side.. Kofi Annan.

Still waiting for your claim to come through tho....

Regards sad flower
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Jun 8, 2012 8:29 AM CST Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria
whistlinwheel
whistlinwheelwhistlinwheelmelbourne, Victoria Australia296 Posts
Leanybean: If we back Kofi Annan, that won't be the kind of peace that we all want, because the United Nations was not established to obtain the kind of peace that we want. It was established to achieve the One World Government which is the worst thing for us that you can imagine.

For proof, read the very small edition that I published exposing the UN at It's a small edition because the thesis was so easy to prove.

The United States had a president who wanted the kind of peace that is real peace. We know him better as John F. Kennedy. The very ones who established the UN are the ones who had him assassinated.

The mayhem that is going on now in Syria is being carried out by these same ones who had Kennedy assassinated. I managed to post the truth about Syria on my second blog that's on the main page of my site too, because the mainstream media are deceiving us.

Leanybean


thumbs upWhat ever makes you feel special leany.
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Jun 8, 2012 8:30 AM CST Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Leanybean: If we back Kofi Annan, that won't be the kind of peace that we all want, because the United Nations was not established to obtain the kind of peace that we want. It was established to achieve the One World Government which is the worst thing for us that you can imagine.

For proof, read the very small edition that I published exposing the UN at It's a small edition because the thesis was so easy to prove.

The United States had a president who wanted the kind of peace that is real peace. We know him better as John F. Kennedy. The very ones who established the UN are the ones who had him assassinated.

The mayhem that is going on now in Syria is being carried out by these same ones who had Kennedy assassinated. I managed to post the truth about Syria on my second blog that's on the main page of my site too, because the mainstream media are deceiving us.

Leanybean

Okay, so far I read "The Truth About the United Nations" and can`t say that I agree with it, you need to dig deeper who really stands behind communism and socialism ,then you will realize who `s idea the UN was
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Jun 8, 2012 8:31 AM CST Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria
Iseek
IseekIseekWaterford, Ireland2 Threads 455 Posts
Leanybean: If we back Kofi Annan, that won't be the kind of peace that we all want, because the United Nations was not established to obtain the kind of peace that we want. It was established to achieve the One World Government which is the worst thing for us that you can imagine.

I should have used Give peace a chance, and would have however, those against the peace plan wouldn't give it the same credibility..

Leanybean:
For proof, read the very small edition that I published exposing the UN at It's a small edition because the thesis was so easy to prove.

I have a problem with conspiracy theories, Having said that however, there is a lot of proof to back up your claim, I agree..

Leanybean:
The United States had a president who wanted the kind of peace that is real peace. We know him better as John F. Kennedy. The very ones who established the UN are the ones who had him assassinated.

May he RIP, I agree, he REALLY sought Peace, hence the terrible loss to the world, on his untimely death..

Leanybean:
The mayhem that is going on now in Syria is being carried out by these same ones who had Kennedy assassinated. I managed to post the truth about Syria on my second blog that's on the main page of my site too, because the mainstream media are deceiving us.

Leanybean


I absolutely agree, I have also made the same statement myself and have given examples.. the media is at the very least not doing their job properly, or to the other extent, actually trying to deceive..

In conclusion, thank you, for your comments and your input. I will check out your link as I am sure many others will also..

Kind Regards sad flower
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Jun 8, 2012 9:02 AM CST Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria
Iseek
IseekIseekWaterford, Ireland2 Threads 455 Posts
Mother Agnes Miriam, Has just been on National radio, explaining the situation as of today in Syria.

Whilst not at any time denying the hold that the Syrian Government has on the country and indeed Damascus. She pointed out her own particular situation.
The Christians are in fear of the FSA, and those caught between the FSA and the Regime (other minorities) are in fear because they are being pushed to take up arms against the Regime and fear the Consequences of WANTING NOT to get involved..

She also expressed as I have done here, her astonishment at the picture, opinion being presented by the world press.


Kind Regards sad flower
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Jun 8, 2012 9:19 AM CST Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria
Iseek
IseekIseekWaterford, Ireland2 Threads 455 Posts
Leanybean:

For proof, read the very small edition that I published exposing the UN at It's a small edition because the thesis was so easy to prove.



I have read your article: The Truth about the UN.

I am sorry, I must respectfully disagree. However this in no way denies you your opinion on the subject..

Kind Regards sad flower
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Jun 8, 2012 10:35 AM CST Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria
Iseek
IseekIseekWaterford, Ireland2 Threads 455 Posts
ttom500: Reports here are that another Syrian (Sunni) atrocity has happened and that the UN Peace Keeper enroute to investigate it were fired on. That they were engaged with armor penetrating rounds. This to penetrate those Honda SUV and their body armor.
I doubt if the Syrian Freedom Army has armor penetrating rounds. They are more costly than the normal rounds. Syrian Freedom Army likely
does not have the funds for them. But maybe.


Further to the above claim / statement. Leaked report from Arab League observers would appear to totally contradict your claim...


In Homs and Dera‘a, the Mission observed armed groups committing acts of violence against
Government forces, resulting in death and injury among their ranks. In certain situations, Government forces
responded to attacks against their personnel with force. The observers noted that some of the armed groups were using flares and armour-piercing projectiles.


Kind Regards sad flower
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Jun 8, 2012 12:33 PM CST Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Hope peace comes soon

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Jun 8, 2012 1:02 PM CST Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria
Iseek
IseekIseekWaterford, Ireland2 Threads 455 Posts
Boban1: Hope peace comes soon


I am aware of the La Palma Volcano and the fact that it is predicted to be weak enough in one area, to fall into the ocean and cause or possibly cause a disaster..

However, I must confess to Not being aware of any Asian, Chinese or Japanese threat to blow it in an attempt to flood the east coast of the US.

Kind Regards sad flower
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Jun 8, 2012 5:09 PM CST Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria
FirasLion
FirasLionFirasLionBrabant, North Brabant Netherlands2 Threads 130 Posts
Iseek: I have some knowledge of what you have mentioned and indeed the fact that Fullford had foretold the actual Tsunami/Nuclear disaster. I have also heard of reports on the current situation in Syria..

Just not aware of the suggested Asian plan..

Anyway
Kind Regards




Maybe this can be interesting for you ?wink



Watch it and you will be surprised .popcorn
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Jun 8, 2012 5:18 PM CST Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
The most recent atrocity occurred on a Sunni farming village that was surrounded by Alawite villages and towns....according to a report I read. The village was left 'barren'.

But if you tell me that ethnic cleansing not going on and it just is the Syrians in a big disagreement....who I am to say different? Not really my problem. I have other fish to fry.....

But with the UN observers being fired on ...I take some interest. Brothers at arms and all that, you know. Well, how many countries want to place their forces into a situation of peace keeping when they have armor piercing bullets coming at them.....when in thin skinned vehicles. Let us not think that Aasad forced them into those thin skinned vehicles on purpose to later fire armor piercing rounds at them.

The United States has been here and done that. We (The US Military )is not anxious to be targets for Syrian snipers (unknown as they might be at this time) under a UN mandate and UN command.

I still say your best source of Peace keepers is Russia. Russia still says it will veto any security council vote. So make Russia responsible
for the country and its security. That takes a UN General Assembly resolution. And some arm twisting.....
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Jun 8, 2012 6:03 PM CST Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria
Iseek
IseekIseekWaterford, Ireland2 Threads 455 Posts
Hi again, TT
ttom500: The most recent atrocity occurred on a Sunni farming village that was surrounded by Alawite villages and towns....according to a report I read. The village was left 'barren'.

Really, Not Alawite? I heard Correspondent /Guest on France 24 state they were Alawite..

ttom500:
But if you tell me that ethnic cleansing not going on and it just is the Syrians in a big disagreement....who I am to say different? Not really my problem. I have other fish to fry.....

Ethnic Cleansing, Interesting, by whom exactly? Do tell

ttom500:
But with the UN observers being fired on ...I take some interest. Brothers at arms and all that, you know. Well, how many countries want to place their forces into a situation of peace keeping when they have armor piercing bullets coming at them.....when in thin skinned vehicles. Let us not think that Aasad forced them into those thin skinned vehicles on purpose to later fire armor piercing rounds at them.

You didn't read the leaked document, did you?


ttom500:
The United States has been here and done that. We (The US Military )is not anxious to be targets for Syrian snipers (unknown as they might be at this time) under a UN mandate and UN command.

Can see the above statement being quoted again and again!

ttom500:
I still say your best source of Peace keepers is Russia. Russia still says it will veto any security council vote. So make Russia responsible
for the country and its security. That takes a UN General Assembly resolution. And some arm twisting.....

You are repeating yourself!


Nice Talking........

Kind Regards sad flower
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Jun 8, 2012 6:16 PM CST Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria
Iseek
IseekIseekWaterford, Ireland2 Threads 455 Posts
Hi TT,


More leaks from the Arab League report from late Jan...


In Homs, Idlib and Hama, the Observer Mission witnessed acts of violence being committed against Government forces and civilians that resulted in several deaths and injuries.
Examples of those acts include the bombing of a civilian bus, killing eight persons and injuring others, including women and children, and the bombing of a train carrying diesel oil.

In another incident in Homs, a police bus was blown up, killing two police officers. A fuel pipeline and some small bridges were also bombed.

The Mission noted that many parties falsely reported that explosions or violence had occurred in several locations.
When the observers went to those locations, they found that those reports were unfounded.

The Mission also noted that, according to its teams in the field, the media exaggerated the nature of the incidents and the number of persons killed in incidents and protests in certain towns.


Not looking great for the Propaganda machine.....

Kind Regards sad flower
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Jun 8, 2012 7:38 PM CST Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Iseek: Hi again, TT

Really, Not Alawite? I heard Correspondent /Guest on France 24 state they were Alawite..Ethnic Cleansing, Interesting, by whom exactly? Do tell


You didn't read the leaked document, did you?
Can see the above statement being quoted again and again!You are repeating yourself!Nice Talking........

Kind Regards


In month it will be easy to see the ethnic cleansing going on in Syria.
Just get some real sat imagery of the Baka hills inside the Lebanon border and find the Sunni camps that are being made.

Till then.....well if you tell me it not happening.....I will take your word on it. But if I get the sat images in month and we see the Sunni camps and they become a 'world issue'. What are you going to say then?

Having analysis and assessed the situation. As advisor to my government and military. In all good conscience, I cannot support a US Peace Keeping deployment to Syria. So I am not going to make any recommendation to place US Peace Keeping forces into Syria, at this time. In fact just opposite. I will soon write up a recommendation to avoid a US force deployment to Syria at all possible cost. I have given the reasons.

Assad sucked your UN peace keeper in to be sitting ducks in thin skinned vehicles so they could be controlled with snipers. We will not deploy in such manner.

They are part of his diversion to Iranian nuclear developments. Those are a greater National Security interest to us than events in Syria.

Go ask the Russians. They have made billions from the Syrian in weapons sales. Time to give a little back......
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Jun 8, 2012 8:00 PM CST Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria
Iseek
IseekIseekWaterford, Ireland2 Threads 455 Posts
ttom500: In month it will be easy to see the ethnic cleansing going on in Syria.
Just get some real sat imagery of the Baka hills inside the Lebanon border and find the Sunni camps that are being made.

I know you appear to have Military background, but telling the future? Happy to talk to you should that happen...

ttom500:
Till then.....well if you tell me it not happening.....I will take your word on it. But if I get the sat images in month and we see the Sunni camps and they become a 'world issue'. What are you going to say then?

The same as above, Glad to talk to you in a month..

ttom500:
Having analysis and assessed the situation. As advisor to my government and military. In all good conscience, I cannot support a US Peace Keeping deployment to Syria. So I am not going to make any recommendation to place US Peace Keeping forces into Syria, at this time. In fact just opposite. I will soon write up a recommendation to avoid a US force deployment to Syria at all possible cost. I have given the reasons.

I am without doubt, that your Government will be delighted... Hmmm

ttom500:
Assad sucked your UN peace keeper in to be sitting ducks in thin skinned vehicles so they could be controlled with snipers. We will not deploy in such manner.

Snipers, TT earlier it was armor piercing weapons.......

ttom500:
They are part of his diversion to Iranian nuclear developments. Those are a greater National Security interest to us than events in Syria.

The US interested in Iran, well I never! REALLY

ttom500:
Go ask the Russians. They have made billions from the Syrian in weapons sales. Time to give a little back......

I was going to say unlike your government sales to, and give a list.. However, I am 46 and would die before the list was complete...

Anyway Nice Talking..

Kind Regards sad flower
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Jun 9, 2012 4:44 AM CST Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria
Iseek
IseekIseekWaterford, Ireland2 Threads 455 Posts
FirasLion: Maybe this can be interesting for you ?
Watch it and you will be surprised .


Thanks Firaslion,
I will try to get the time to view soon,

Kind Regards
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