Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria (411)
Boban1: Thats the way it should be, and not only in Syria or any country thats been caught up in some conflict, turmoil and civil war ,but in generally for every country ,no pressure of any kind, no interference publicly or covertly and no sanction
I agree, but remember they must remove Assad and replace him with a puppet, then take out Hezbollah, maybe Hamas and then the ultimate goal IRAN..
This was the reason Clinton looked like she could eat babies at the special meeting, because China and Russia refused to agree with the Assad ouster bit of the agreement.
Kind Regards
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For Boban and TT
From the ONLY democracy in the Middle East
Please forward to 1:15 onwards
TT, What was that YOU were saying about torture and crimes against Civilians???
From the ONLY democracy in the Middle East
Please forward to 1:15 onwards
TT, What was that YOU were saying about torture and crimes against Civilians???
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Iseek: I agree totally Boban, Totally!
Specially when one side uses HIND helo gunships, ground attack aircraft, artillery, tanks, and personnel carriers and other heavy weapons indiscriminately in high density urban areas.
Sometime.....the term "proportional response" should be taught to the
Syrians, Russians and Iranians.
That sometime is coming soon.........
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ttom500: Specially when one side uses HIND helo gunships, ground attack aircraft, artillery, tanks, and personnel carriers and other heavy weapons indiscriminately in high density urban areas.
Sometime.....the term "proportional response" should be taught to the
Syrians, Russians and Iranians.
That sometime is coming soon.........
Sometime.....the term "proportional response" should be taught to the
Syrians, Russians and Iranians.
That sometime is coming soon.........
you gotta be kidding...
this one is too easy ...
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Syrian General Tliss is being whisked off to France to be debriefed on his role in the Assad's regime bloody suppression of the countries Sunni. General Tliss is no average General. But head of the Syrian Revolutionary Guard and the son of a defense minister.
So General Tliss knows the inside working of the Assad regime.
So far General Tliss is the biggest defection from the Syrian regime.
Tho other generals have also defects. 4 pilots have left as well. What is important about the pilot defections is this. Alawite hold the vast majority of the Syrian Air Force officers positions.
With four defecting there is a growing group of Alawite officers that
see the hand writing on the wall for the Assad regime. It is very likely General Tliss and the other generals are Alawite as well.
But from insider information now will come the evidence for the ICC's
charges against the Assad, his military and the Russians and Iranians
that operate in Syria. It is likely that General Tliss Revolutionary
Guard units acted with both the Russian Spetnaz and the Iranian Quds
Force on missions. Since they shared missions, General Tliss knows
what they were.
When combined with the growing number of detained Sunni with marks of
torture on their persons....it will be easier for the ICC to press charges against Assad and those connected with his regime's repression.
It is good to see some Syrian taking the moral high road here. For Assad, Putin, and Amhmenajad that moral high road leads to the Hague.
To face the coming charge of crimes against humanity.
So General Tliss knows the inside working of the Assad regime.
So far General Tliss is the biggest defection from the Syrian regime.
Tho other generals have also defects. 4 pilots have left as well. What is important about the pilot defections is this. Alawite hold the vast majority of the Syrian Air Force officers positions.
With four defecting there is a growing group of Alawite officers that
see the hand writing on the wall for the Assad regime. It is very likely General Tliss and the other generals are Alawite as well.
But from insider information now will come the evidence for the ICC's
charges against the Assad, his military and the Russians and Iranians
that operate in Syria. It is likely that General Tliss Revolutionary
Guard units acted with both the Russian Spetnaz and the Iranian Quds
Force on missions. Since they shared missions, General Tliss knows
what they were.
When combined with the growing number of detained Sunni with marks of
torture on their persons....it will be easier for the ICC to press charges against Assad and those connected with his regime's repression.
It is good to see some Syrian taking the moral high road here. For Assad, Putin, and Amhmenajad that moral high road leads to the Hague.
To face the coming charge of crimes against humanity.
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Boban1: you gotta be kidding...
this one is too easy ...
this one is too easy ...
No Boban and ISeek. Proportional Response is long time American and Western military concept.
Example. When alQeada bombed two American embassies in Africa during the Clinton administration. How many alQeada target did he engage afterwards?
2
One in Afghanistan (alQeada training camp) and one in the Sudan (a factory he was thought was connected to alQeada).
That is proportional response.
Another example?
When 911 occurred. Did GWB invade Pakistan? No. Even though the majority of Taliban were located in the Tribal region of Pakistan. GWB limited the US military response to Afghanistan.
Again a example of proportional response.
But in a civil war like Syria, it is very hard to proportional responses. Specially when you are using heavy weapons and aircraft on
a Sunni rebells using Ak-47s. You now have asymetrical warfare being fought.
By the way....check your Geneva Conventions lads.....since the Russian and Iranian troops in Syria are mercs....they fall into a catagory of being "unprivileded combants"...they fall under the fourth Geneva Convention...and if detained can be tried under the "Civilian Laws" of the detaining power.
So say that Sunnis win and have set up a government or this government in exile of SFA...begins to detain Russian and Iranians....it can try them. No need to even go to the Hague or ICC. I would not want to be in the Russian or Iranian boots if that happened.....
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ttom500: Syrian General Tliss is being whisked off to France to be debriefed on his role in the Assad's regime bloody suppression of the countries Sunni. General Tliss is no average General. But head of the Syrian Revolutionary Guard and the son of a defense minister.
So General Tliss knows the inside working of the Assad regime.
So far General Tliss is the biggest defection from the Syrian regime.
Tho other generals have also defects. 4 pilots have left as well. What is important about the pilot defections is this. Alawite hold the vast majority of the Syrian Air Force officers positions.
With four defecting there is a growing group of Alawite officers that
see the hand writing on the wall for the Assad regime. It is very likely General Tliss and the other generals are Alawite as well.
But from insider information now will come the evidence for the ICC's
charges against the Assad, his military and the Russians and Iranians
that operate in Syria. It is likely that General Tliss Revolutionary
Guard units acted with both the Russian Spetnaz and the Iranian Quds
Force on missions. Since they shared missions, General Tliss knows
what they were.
So General Tliss knows the inside working of the Assad regime.
So far General Tliss is the biggest defection from the Syrian regime.
Tho other generals have also defects. 4 pilots have left as well. What is important about the pilot defections is this. Alawite hold the vast majority of the Syrian Air Force officers positions.
With four defecting there is a growing group of Alawite officers that
see the hand writing on the wall for the Assad regime. It is very likely General Tliss and the other generals are Alawite as well.
But from insider information now will come the evidence for the ICC's
charges against the Assad, his military and the Russians and Iranians
that operate in Syria. It is likely that General Tliss Revolutionary
Guard units acted with both the Russian Spetnaz and the Iranian Quds
Force on missions. Since they shared missions, General Tliss knows
what they were.
More BS TT, more Hollywood fantasy…..
ttom500:
When combined with the growing number of detained Sunni with marks of
torture on their persons....it will be easier for the ICC to press charges against Assad and those connected with his regime's repression.
It is good to see some Syrian taking the moral high road here. For Assad, Putin, and Amhmenajad that moral high road leads to the Hague.
To face the coming charge of crimes against humanity.
When combined with the growing number of detained Sunni with marks of
torture on their persons....it will be easier for the ICC to press charges against Assad and those connected with his regime's repression.
It is good to see some Syrian taking the moral high road here. For Assad, Putin, and Amhmenajad that moral high road leads to the Hague.
To face the coming charge of crimes against humanity.
Do you believe if you wish for something, IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS?? It kind of sounds that way TT! As for moral high ground, considering some at the friends of Syria (or get Assad out even if we kill innocents doing so) meeting are actively guilty of an attack against a Sovereign country by supplying weapons etc to destabilize another country, LET’S talk about moral high ground there !
BTW, the very same countries (dictators) are actively using their army against their OWN people, in the case of Saudi Arabia they even went as far as sending THEIR heavily armed troops to Bahrain to quell the rebellion by the civilian population !
High moral ground indeed, so high in fact that the US can’t see over it, or are allowing it to happen!..
Kind Regards
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Yep I was wrong. The General name is Tlas....sorry typo. And being human....I was wrong a second time. Now it is 15 Syrian general that
have defected. The last Syrian brought to two Syrian Colonels with him.
Old military joke here......What is a General and two Colonels worth? Well not as much five privates, a corporal and a sergeant that want to fight.
enjoy:
have defected. The last Syrian brought to two Syrian Colonels with him.
Old military joke here......What is a General and two Colonels worth? Well not as much five privates, a corporal and a sergeant that want to fight.
enjoy:
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ttom500: Yep I was wrong. The General name is Tlas....sorry typo. And being human....I was wrong a second time. Now it is 15 Syrian general that
have defected. The last Syrian brought to two Syrian Colonels with him.
Old military joke here......What is a General and two Colonels worth? Well not as much five privates, a corporal and a sergeant that want to fight.
enjoy:
have defected. The last Syrian brought to two Syrian Colonels with him.
Old military joke here......What is a General and two Colonels worth? Well not as much five privates, a corporal and a sergeant that want to fight.
enjoy:
Hi TT,
I don't doubt your claims on the defections, indeed they are to be expected in any conflict where it appears that the cards are stacked against one side or the other..
It's the picture you paint of the rebels as badly armed, malnourished, sponge carriers (as apposed to weapons) who get by on $1 bullets, whilst at the same time afraid to use said $1 bullets for lack of armament supplies (so to speak)...
That along with the other picture you both paint and try to flaunt as fact, of Top Iranian killer elite squadrons leading the Syrian Army in something akin to the charge of the horsemen of the apocalypse, slaying all in their path on some satanic like mission to rid the world of those who would dare appose their desires..
Not to even mention, the fact that since Mrs Clinton made the allegation that Russia was supplying helicopters to the Syrian government (which was later retracted BTW,) You then also ventured to suggest that the Syrian Army aided by the Iranian Horsemen of the apocalypse on their Satanic mission were also aided by Fire breathing cold war Commies led by Satan's right hand man incarnate President Putin.
Further to this you then begin painting a scenario where the Good Sheriff (the US/West and partners) on his white horse ambles into town (what is left of Syria and her people) and arrest all the bad guys (Russia, Iran, China etc) and takes them back to the Sheriffs office where they will await the hanging Judge (ICC Court)...
Now whilst I applaud your imagination and Hollywood flair, Asking or expecting adults to believe such thing is taking your lust for the dramatic a tad too far.
BTW, In psychology terms the whole Sheriff on the white horse thing is referred to as the White Angel Black Angel complex. It studies the positive and negative associations certain people have with the white angel being good and the black angel being bad. In other words, what one perceives to be good or bad, and how perceiving something in one’s own interests to be always good is a flaw within oneself..
Kind Regards
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Russia and Iran must participate in Syria solution - Annan
what I found interesting is one of the comments...
Interesting development, that Annan finaly has found Russia and Iran on the map!
I don't think it is coincidence, that he stated that, after war criminal Hillary Clinton threatened Russia and China.
Is Annan trying to get rid of his job?
BTW: the media here in Germany are a complete joke. First they demanded free elections in Syria. Then they took place and because the result didn't please the ZOGs, suddenly this topic was immediately shut off.
Then the zionist media demanded a government change. After Russia reached an agreement of all parties being involved, guess what happened: also this topic suddenly was dead.
For those outside of our awful zionist zone, how this is played: from one day where all media carry almost the same headlines to the next, where suddenly the topic is gone completely!
No explanations, nothing. If you forget it (like 95% of the people), you could believe by listening to the MSM, there was even nothing going on.
In any openly censored system, this is understood by the people. So it comes, that the people learn to read between the lines all the time. Usually they are therefore informed better, thant those believing to be informed freely, because in the ZOGs, people usually believe in the media and do not read between the lines.
What a brilliant trick!
If Russia will not stop the globalists now and Syria and the Iran falls, then Russia over the next decade will be the next target. They will stir up the ethnic problems and support islamic terrorists in the south and independence movements. And every measure Russia sets against this, will be turned by the zionist media here into a crime like they are doing it in Syria!
Additionally they will use the Sevastopol-problem to create more and more problems for Russia.
Putin must recognize, that this a war of the last step for global dominance of the plutocrats and the destruction of the white nation states. There is no escape.
what I found interesting is one of the comments...
Interesting development, that Annan finaly has found Russia and Iran on the map!
I don't think it is coincidence, that he stated that, after war criminal Hillary Clinton threatened Russia and China.
Is Annan trying to get rid of his job?
BTW: the media here in Germany are a complete joke. First they demanded free elections in Syria. Then they took place and because the result didn't please the ZOGs, suddenly this topic was immediately shut off.
Then the zionist media demanded a government change. After Russia reached an agreement of all parties being involved, guess what happened: also this topic suddenly was dead.
For those outside of our awful zionist zone, how this is played: from one day where all media carry almost the same headlines to the next, where suddenly the topic is gone completely!
No explanations, nothing. If you forget it (like 95% of the people), you could believe by listening to the MSM, there was even nothing going on.
In any openly censored system, this is understood by the people. So it comes, that the people learn to read between the lines all the time. Usually they are therefore informed better, thant those believing to be informed freely, because in the ZOGs, people usually believe in the media and do not read between the lines.
What a brilliant trick!
If Russia will not stop the globalists now and Syria and the Iran falls, then Russia over the next decade will be the next target. They will stir up the ethnic problems and support islamic terrorists in the south and independence movements. And every measure Russia sets against this, will be turned by the zionist media here into a crime like they are doing it in Syria!
Additionally they will use the Sevastopol-problem to create more and more problems for Russia.
Putin must recognize, that this a war of the last step for global dominance of the plutocrats and the destruction of the white nation states. There is no escape.
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Boban1: Russia and Iran must participate in Syria solution - Annan
what I found interesting is one of the comments...
Interesting development, that Annan finaly has found Russia and Iran on the map!
I don't think it is coincidence, that he stated that, after war criminal Hillary Clinton threatened Russia and China.
Is Annan trying to get rid of his job?
BTW: the media here in Germany are a complete joke. First they demanded free elections in Syria. Then they took place and because the result didn't please the ZOGs, suddenly this topic was immediately shut off.
Then the zionist media demanded a government change. After Russia reached an agreement of all parties being involved, guess what happened: also this topic suddenly was dead.
For those outside of our awful zionist zone, how this is played: from one day where all media carry almost the same headlines to the next, where suddenly the topic is gone completely!
No explanations, nothing. If you forget it (like 95% of the people), you could believe by listening to the MSM, there was even nothing going on.
In any openly censored system, this is understood by the people. So it comes, that the people learn to read between the lines all the time. Usually they are therefore informed better, thant those believing to be informed freely, because in the ZOGs, people usually believe in the media and do not read between the lines.
What a brilliant trick!
If Russia will not stop the globalists now and Syria and the Iran falls, then Russia over the next decade will be the next target. They will stir up the ethnic problems and support islamic terrorists in the south and independence movements. And every measure Russia sets against this, will be turned by the zionist media here into a crime like they are doing it in Syria!
Additionally they will use the Sevastopol-problem to create more and more problems for Russia.
Putin must recognize, that this a war of the last step for global dominance of the plutocrats and the destruction of the white nation states. There is no escape.
what I found interesting is one of the comments...
Interesting development, that Annan finaly has found Russia and Iran on the map!
I don't think it is coincidence, that he stated that, after war criminal Hillary Clinton threatened Russia and China.
Is Annan trying to get rid of his job?
BTW: the media here in Germany are a complete joke. First they demanded free elections in Syria. Then they took place and because the result didn't please the ZOGs, suddenly this topic was immediately shut off.
Then the zionist media demanded a government change. After Russia reached an agreement of all parties being involved, guess what happened: also this topic suddenly was dead.
For those outside of our awful zionist zone, how this is played: from one day where all media carry almost the same headlines to the next, where suddenly the topic is gone completely!
No explanations, nothing. If you forget it (like 95% of the people), you could believe by listening to the MSM, there was even nothing going on.
In any openly censored system, this is understood by the people. So it comes, that the people learn to read between the lines all the time. Usually they are therefore informed better, thant those believing to be informed freely, because in the ZOGs, people usually believe in the media and do not read between the lines.
What a brilliant trick!
If Russia will not stop the globalists now and Syria and the Iran falls, then Russia over the next decade will be the next target. They will stir up the ethnic problems and support islamic terrorists in the south and independence movements. And every measure Russia sets against this, will be turned by the zionist media here into a crime like they are doing it in Syria!
Additionally they will use the Sevastopol-problem to create more and more problems for Russia.
Putin must recognize, that this a war of the last step for global dominance of the plutocrats and the destruction of the white nation states. There is no escape.
Why don't Russia and Iran offer to peace keep Syria? As UN members they both can do that. Instead they have declared a side to support.
That means they have ulterior motives. This is more than just keeping Assad in power.
This is about the Turkish pipelines. This is about keeping the Palestines pressed up against Israel. This is about Russian and Iranian weapons sales and a logistic route to Lebanon and Hezbollah.
This is port on the MED for the Russians. This is about a expand of Iranian revolutionary Islam.
Russia rushed right into the Peace Keep in Kosovo. That was a armor mech unit from Hungary. But for Syria? No it was not peace keeping troops they deployed. But rather Russian Marines and Counter Terrorist (e.g. Spetnaz).
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Like they did not have enough on their plates, with all the atrocities left to be done....the Syrian military conducted military exercises.
Oh that is right....they brought the Russians and Iranians and alQeada of Syria in to do those atrocities for them.
The Syrian Navy, not considered one of the world powerhouse went into the MED.....likely very near were the Turkish F-4 crashed.....and launched missiles. Now if that is not adding insult to injury, am not
sure what it.
This at the near same time. Allied Iran was threatening to close the
Strait of Hormuz....and the world's oil prices had a immediate jump in price. President Putin and 32 Russian Billionaire were all smiles on the way to the bank with bigger checks from Europe crude sales.
Now I am not saying that Assad, Putin and Amhmenajad had a conference call to play this little bit of international geo political flim flammery on the world. But if some over night courrier dispatches between the three did occur the day's prior...I would be very surprised.
While Kofi Annan seems to be tossing in the towel on his Syrian peace plan. Even Annan is saying that the plan has been disrailed and side tracked. Suiting the three middle eastern "banditos" just fine. The longer the brutality of the Syrian conflict goes on, the longer they can play with the world's oil prices.
All the while...Assad's 37 Torture Houses still operate....90 were killed in the Syrian violence yesterday....and artillery shelling occurs on villages near Douma.
Oh that is right....they brought the Russians and Iranians and alQeada of Syria in to do those atrocities for them.
The Syrian Navy, not considered one of the world powerhouse went into the MED.....likely very near were the Turkish F-4 crashed.....and launched missiles. Now if that is not adding insult to injury, am not
sure what it.
This at the near same time. Allied Iran was threatening to close the
Strait of Hormuz....and the world's oil prices had a immediate jump in price. President Putin and 32 Russian Billionaire were all smiles on the way to the bank with bigger checks from Europe crude sales.
Now I am not saying that Assad, Putin and Amhmenajad had a conference call to play this little bit of international geo political flim flammery on the world. But if some over night courrier dispatches between the three did occur the day's prior...I would be very surprised.
While Kofi Annan seems to be tossing in the towel on his Syrian peace plan. Even Annan is saying that the plan has been disrailed and side tracked. Suiting the three middle eastern "banditos" just fine. The longer the brutality of the Syrian conflict goes on, the longer they can play with the world's oil prices.
All the while...Assad's 37 Torture Houses still operate....90 were killed in the Syrian violence yesterday....and artillery shelling occurs on villages near Douma.
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ttom500: Like they did not have enough on their plates, with all the atrocities left to be done....the Syrian military conducted military exercises.
Oh that is right....they brought the Russians and Iranians and alQeada of Syria in to do those atrocities for them.
The Syrian Navy, not considered one of the world powerhouse went into the MED.....likely very near were the Turkish F-4 crashed.....and launched missiles. Now if that is not adding insult to injury, am not
sure what it.
This at the near same time. Allied Iran was threatening to close the
Strait of Hormuz....and the world's oil prices had a immediate jump in price. President Putin and 32 Russian Billionaire were all smiles on the way to the bank with bigger checks from Europe crude sales.
Now I am not saying that Assad, Putin and Amhmenajad had a conference call to play this little bit of international geo political flim flammery on the world. But if some over night courrier dispatches between the three did occur the day's prior...I would be very surprised.
While Kofi Annan seems to be tossing in the towel on his Syrian peace plan. Even Annan is saying that the plan has been disrailed and side tracked. Suiting the three middle eastern "banditos" just fine. The longer the brutality of the Syrian conflict goes on, the longer they can play with the world's oil prices.
All the while...Assad's 37 Torture Houses still operate....90 were killed in the Syrian violence yesterday....and artillery shelling occurs on villages near Douma.
Oh that is right....they brought the Russians and Iranians and alQeada of Syria in to do those atrocities for them.
The Syrian Navy, not considered one of the world powerhouse went into the MED.....likely very near were the Turkish F-4 crashed.....and launched missiles. Now if that is not adding insult to injury, am not
sure what it.
This at the near same time. Allied Iran was threatening to close the
Strait of Hormuz....and the world's oil prices had a immediate jump in price. President Putin and 32 Russian Billionaire were all smiles on the way to the bank with bigger checks from Europe crude sales.
Now I am not saying that Assad, Putin and Amhmenajad had a conference call to play this little bit of international geo political flim flammery on the world. But if some over night courrier dispatches between the three did occur the day's prior...I would be very surprised.
While Kofi Annan seems to be tossing in the towel on his Syrian peace plan. Even Annan is saying that the plan has been disrailed and side tracked. Suiting the three middle eastern "banditos" just fine. The longer the brutality of the Syrian conflict goes on, the longer they can play with the world's oil prices.
All the while...Assad's 37 Torture Houses still operate....90 were killed in the Syrian violence yesterday....and artillery shelling occurs on villages near Douma.
Maybe they eventually impose petrorubel...or people will start trading for any other currency
isn`t that just scary ???
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Kofi Annan and Assad met in Damascus. Details are thin.....but seems a agreement to the 6 point UN plan of Annan was reached. Then in shuttle diplomacy Annan was off to Tehran to talk with Iranian leaders.
Putin said the west "is in decline" and that western countries have been acting to cause unrest in the region with weapons sales and aid to 'terrorists". No names were given and no evidence. He also said Russia would back Syria in the UN security council.
While the SFA said.....Assad has to go as the first of the 6 peace points. To which I doubt Annan and Assad have a clear agreement on.
Putin said the west "is in decline" and that western countries have been acting to cause unrest in the region with weapons sales and aid to 'terrorists". No names were given and no evidence. He also said Russia would back Syria in the UN security council.
While the SFA said.....Assad has to go as the first of the 6 peace points. To which I doubt Annan and Assad have a clear agreement on.
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ttom500: Like they did not have enough on their plates, with all the atrocities left to be done....the Syrian military conducted military exercises.
Oh that is right....they brought the Russians and Iranians and alQeada of Syria in to do those atrocities for them.
Oh that is right....they brought the Russians and Iranians and alQeada of Syria in to do those atrocities for them.
You still go on spreading BS as a means to hiding the fact that the very rebels you bow before are Al Qaeda backed....
ttom500:
The Syrian Navy, not considered one of the world powerhouse went into the MED.....likely very near were the Turkish F-4 crashed.....and launched missiles. Now if that is not adding insult to injury, am not
sure what it.
This at the near same time. Allied Iran was threatening to close the
Strait of Hormuz....and the world's oil prices had a immediate jump in price. President Putin and 32 Russian Billionaire were all smiles on the way to the bank with bigger checks from Europe crude sales.
The Syrian Navy, not considered one of the world powerhouse went into the MED.....likely very near were the Turkish F-4 crashed.....and launched missiles. Now if that is not adding insult to injury, am not
sure what it.
This at the near same time. Allied Iran was threatening to close the
Strait of Hormuz....and the world's oil prices had a immediate jump in price. President Putin and 32 Russian Billionaire were all smiles on the way to the bank with bigger checks from Europe crude sales.
Yep Putin has Obama to thank for that one!!!!
ttom500:
Now I am not saying that Assad, Putin and Amhmenajad had a conference call to play this little bit of international geo political flim flammery on the world. But if some over night courrier dispatches between the three did occur the day's prior...I would be very surprised.
Now I am not saying that Assad, Putin and Amhmenajad had a conference call to play this little bit of international geo political flim flammery on the world. But if some over night courrier dispatches between the three did occur the day's prior...I would be very surprised.
NO, TT you don not suggest! YOU make it up!!!
ttom500:
While Kofi Annan seems to be tossing in the towel on his Syrian peace plan. Even Annan is saying that the plan has been disrailed and side tracked. Suiting the three middle eastern "banditos" just fine. The longer the brutality of the Syrian conflict goes on, the longer they can play with the world's oil prices.
While Kofi Annan seems to be tossing in the towel on his Syrian peace plan. Even Annan is saying that the plan has been disrailed and side tracked. Suiting the three middle eastern "banditos" just fine. The longer the brutality of the Syrian conflict goes on, the longer they can play with the world's oil prices.
Yes, and the longer US/NATO allies have to get Assad out despite the fact that Europe is paying the price...
ttom500:
All the while...Assad's 37 Torture Houses still operate....90 were killed in the Syrian violence yesterday....and artillery shelling occurs on villages near Douma.
All the while...Assad's 37 Torture Houses still operate....90 were killed in the Syrian violence yesterday....and artillery shelling occurs on villages near Douma.
LET me guess TT, Those guys with the sponges (arms) and only a handful of $1 dollar bullets played NO part!!!!!
Kind Regards
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The latest round of the war against an independent Syria unfolded in Paris last week at the gathering of the “Friends of Syria”.
Russia and China very rightly did not attend this “amoral” – in the diplomatic language of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs – meeting. At the meeting western champions of the war insisted on their interpretation of the one-week old Geneva agreements: “transition government based on mutual consent” means “Bashar al-Assad must go”, affirmed French President Hollande.
This recent round of pressure highlights two new tactics employed by Washington: word games and an end-run around the United Nations itself.
First, the new formula “transition government”. The authoritative Merriam-Webster dictionary defines “regime” as “government” and “change” as “transition.” Thus, for those who reject “regime change,” a euphemism was created that has much better chances to go through.
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The usual pattern is unfolding in the USA's reach for global domination: Isolate a nation as much as possible. Slap an embargo on them to ensure chaos and the deaths of many innocents (the aged, the infirm, women and children), destroy stability in all areas and then send in the military to topple the government all under the guise of "Humanitarian Intervention". The neo-con, banker/elite faction, led by Goldman and Morgan, then infect and infest the nation and the next thing you know - There's a new American colony! A shake and bake neo-fascism.
Russia and China very rightly did not attend this “amoral” – in the diplomatic language of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs – meeting. At the meeting western champions of the war insisted on their interpretation of the one-week old Geneva agreements: “transition government based on mutual consent” means “Bashar al-Assad must go”, affirmed French President Hollande.
This recent round of pressure highlights two new tactics employed by Washington: word games and an end-run around the United Nations itself.
First, the new formula “transition government”. The authoritative Merriam-Webster dictionary defines “regime” as “government” and “change” as “transition.” Thus, for those who reject “regime change,” a euphemism was created that has much better chances to go through.
one of the comment...
The usual pattern is unfolding in the USA's reach for global domination: Isolate a nation as much as possible. Slap an embargo on them to ensure chaos and the deaths of many innocents (the aged, the infirm, women and children), destroy stability in all areas and then send in the military to topple the government all under the guise of "Humanitarian Intervention". The neo-con, banker/elite faction, led by Goldman and Morgan, then infect and infest the nation and the next thing you know - There's a new American colony! A shake and bake neo-fascism.
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Hot_Single_Dude: Pretty simple answer...
Kofi Annan can not do any thing and his so called "plan" does not work, and is no plan any way... Syrian regim is just killing time and trying to figure out how many more to kill, until the rebelion is over and out, and until people are so scared that they stop the resistance against the regim.
There are no negotiation options left, and actually there have never been negotiation options with the Syrian regim what so ever... Assads father killed hundreds of tousands and stayed on power and Bashir is willing to do the exact same . This family do not understand people being tired of them and Gadhaffi situation is reapeting it self and I am telling you... Syrian regim is way more violent and much better armed and trained than Gadhaffi regim was
There is no peace with the regim on charge for now in Syria... a sad fact but an undeniable fact, and mr. Annan will be absolutely sad some day soon because his so called "plan" is giving more time to Assad taking care of his oponents and this situation reminds me of the horrible time when Rwanda was forgotten and politicians kept talking while human being were salughtered in tousands
No peace, no negotiations... do a Yougoslavia on the dang Bashir ASAP!
Just my humble oponion
Kofi Annan can not do any thing and his so called "plan" does not work, and is no plan any way... Syrian regim is just killing time and trying to figure out how many more to kill, until the rebelion is over and out, and until people are so scared that they stop the resistance against the regim.
There are no negotiation options left, and actually there have never been negotiation options with the Syrian regim what so ever... Assads father killed hundreds of tousands and stayed on power and Bashir is willing to do the exact same . This family do not understand people being tired of them and Gadhaffi situation is reapeting it self and I am telling you... Syrian regim is way more violent and much better armed and trained than Gadhaffi regim was
There is no peace with the regim on charge for now in Syria... a sad fact but an undeniable fact, and mr. Annan will be absolutely sad some day soon because his so called "plan" is giving more time to Assad taking care of his oponents and this situation reminds me of the horrible time when Rwanda was forgotten and politicians kept talking while human being were salughtered in tousands
No peace, no negotiations... do a Yougoslavia on the dang Bashir ASAP!
Just my humble oponion
Alright HSD! 
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Russia has sent a flotilla of warships to its naval base in a key Syrian port in an apparent show of support for President Bashar al-Assad in what would be the largest display of Russian military power in the region since the Syrian conflict began almost 17 months ago.
Two destroyers and three amphibious landing vessels carrying marines set sail from Russian bases in the Arctic and the Black Sea, according to Russian military sources.
The development appeared intended to underline Russia's effort to position itself as an increasingly decisive broker in resolving the anti-government uprising in Syria, Russia's last ally in the Middle East and where Russia has its only foreign military base outside the former Soviet Union.
Two destroyers and three amphibious landing vessels carrying marines set sail from Russian bases in the Arctic and the Black Sea, according to Russian military sources.
The development appeared intended to underline Russia's effort to position itself as an increasingly decisive broker in resolving the anti-government uprising in Syria, Russia's last ally in the Middle East and where Russia has its only foreign military base outside the former Soviet Union.
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ttom500:
So while Putin will try make a public distancing from Assad. In reality, he supports him more than ever.
So while Putin will try make a public distancing from Assad. In reality, he supports him more than ever.
Boban1: Russia has sent a flotilla of warships to its naval base in a key Syrian port in an apparent show of support for President Bashar al-Assad .
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France's foreign minister, Laurent Fabius, revealed that Russia would not be attending a meeting of the western-Arab Friends of Syria grouping in Paris on Friday, even though there was an invitation.
Moscow and Beijing accuse the US and its allies of pursuing "regime change" in Syria and insist that only Syrians can decide on the country's political future."They are so different, chaotic and hate each other, admits Arab League Official"A meeting of Syria's divided opposition in Cairo ended in scuffles, a walkout and failure to agree on a joint organisation to act as a united front. A Syrian Kurdish group quit the meeting, provoking mayhem and cries of "scandal, scandal" from delegates.
An official from the Arab League, who attended the closed meetings, said "They are so different, chaotic and hate each other," according to Reuters.
Thats the way it should be, and not only in Syria or any country thats been caught up in some conflict, turmoil and civil war ,but in generally for every country ,no pressure of any kind, no interference publicly or covertly and no sanction