Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria ( Archived) (411)

UN mandate to overfly Iraq and to monitor following the fist gulf war are ....UN Resolutions 687 and 707. Shortly they were passed, the US, Great Britian and France began monitoring overflight of Iraq.

So?

As said the UN has acted to mandate the United States into a peace keeping role. Because they were there to monitor Sadam Hussien actions against the Kurds and Shia. Why not mandate Russia to do so in Syria?

Clearly this is just another US bashing thread.

Syria dissolves into Civil War while you bash the United States. Assad hosed down Sunni with his attack helos just the other day....foring them to move to the Labanon border. They had another civilian atrocity.

Russia is the only real Peace Keeping force Annan has for Syria. But you fail to realize that as you bash the United States. For not even being there. So if you want Syrian Peace Keepers....time to go ask at the Kremlin.

Whether Putin has the forces for a Syrian Peace Keeping mission. I doubt. He invaded Georgia with only 65,000....most of those were reservists....and they were poorly equipped. I saw em running around in tennis shoes......but you can at least ask. It never hurts to ask....all Putin can say to you is no.

But I would go the UN GA route....and place some arm twisting to the request. Putin is former KGB.....so unless you arm twist a little....it ain't going to happen. He is not like President Bush one or two....that sees a international need for intervention and does it because it is the right thing to do.

The longer you hesitate in the request....the more atrocities will occur and the more Sunni come to Baka hills inside Lebanon.....

Hi again and sorry I was too late before replying back. I do not like lost of any lives as well, and any single life lost in conflicts around the world is a terrible happening which is definately ireversable and a life lost, is one too many when all counts.

Still... giving a chance to a possible peace between Assad regim and the international community or the so called rebels in Syria, is not optin in my eys. Assad and his look a liked all over that part of the world, are not to begotiate with and they do not understand one simple human right which is that when a power holder is not wanted no more, then there must be real chances changing him or her out, by free elections. syria have been suffering of this family for years and the reason why syirans finally have stood up and demanding end of Assads regim, is of course what have happend in other areas and what we call the arab spring.

Bashir,s father killed so many that a horrible fear hold peple of Syria stopping any kinds of real resistance against the regim, and now years later and when the same wish of freedom have been succesful in Lybia or Egypt of Tunesia and even Yemen and Bahrain are shaking because of people,s demand for freedom... then Syria for sure stands up as well, and actually demanding justice for the horrible autrocities of Assad,s family against those troubled people.

Some say it is rather risky allowing Syria going Egypt and so on and they say Alqueda is going to take over and so on but no way that will happen any way and even the begining of new gained freedom is difficult as it have been even in US back then and looked a lot like those new free arabic countries in may ways... still... things will fall on place and the country will find herself and freedom will result in much better lives for the inhabitants of syria some day soon after the dang dictator is under mudd or moved a way to refuge in a crook state some where, willing to giving him refuge.

No peace to Assad regim is sense or possible what so ever... He does not GET what peace means and specially when he knows what happened to Gadhafi and so on he is not going to give a way this easy... here and now people with light arms are fighting agaisnt machine guns and choppers and tanks and soon planes as well am sure... peple alone will not be able to defeat his murderer regim and then let us help people of Syria by showing the regim the power of our arms. Assad will keep killing and he will not stop and he will in no way being willing to leave power what so ever and what ever lie he claims in the coming days will be alie and nothing than a lie. His regim is getting ready to claim have accepted a russian peace plan in the coming days and then his guns will keep shooting but using muffers so no body hears

"All we are saying... just give peace a chance"... yeah it sounds good, but it is not doable in Syria... and Assad does not GET what peace means, and is just a bloody wapire as his dang stupid father and who ever being a part of Assad,s regim.

Hi Vinny,

I agree the CIA is there. The Russia secret service is there. The Mossad is there. Every intell agency in the world has flocked to the
Syrian violence. That is what they get paid to do. Go to the hotspots and do covert things.....

But just my opinion, on the case built here.....that the best Peace Keepers for Syria is the Russians.

I back that up with what Hillary Clinton said yesterday. She was
not in Washington to meet with Annan.....but with conference calling...likely was at the table in some way.

Yesterday, she goes public with saying 'the US understands the Syrian people want a change. That they want Assad removed from power. The United States agrees with that. That the United States has prepped a 'staged plan' for his transfer of power.' Not quoted verbattem but very close.

She did not say one word about US Peace Keepers or a no fly zone over the country.

It is a election year. Obama cannot make a large peace keeping deployment to Syria. He bungled Libya so badly on the Congressional approval. He cannot even get a go from Congress for a no fly zone. They would not give it to him. They'd force it to be executive order and to be totally on his shoulders with the election coming.

Maybe after the election. But right now? No way, Hose'.

So the only place I see them coming from is Russia....maybe Africa. But the later is problematic as well. But to get them from Russia, you are going to have to twist Putin's arm.jmo

It is twistable. Ask me how we stopped the Russians short of the Georgian Capitol someday. Maybe "stopped" is not the right word.....'induced them to slowing their advance' to a 1/4 inch per day.....))...is a better choice of words.

Heck if I was 30 years younger.....give me some blue body armor and a blue kevlar hat.....but this is not a old man's game or place....for the next few years,......Syria is going to be one serious and deadly place.

Here is what we learned in Northern Iraq with the displaced Kurds that had gone into Southern Turkey. Also with the Kosovos. Because I think that it going to be very relevant to making any Syrian Peace plan work.

You have to give these displaced persons, a hope that they can return to their homes and businesses back in Syria. Else.......they are going to resist any and every peace plan you come up with.

We did it in Kosovo....we did it in Northern Iraq. So I am going to share the trick with for future reference. Right now, Assad's people are ethic cleansing the Sunni from western Syria. These people know their houses...properties....farms....businesses....but they are losing possession of them.

Assad's people will begin to 'detitle' them from their properties. Leave a place for a length of time and it becomes public property. Or becomes the state's property.

What we did was use satellite imagery to record their property and property lines. Someone looks at a sat image....he can point out and lay out the property lines of his house, farm, business. Basically, we made up a new title registry for them based ...on sat imagery....so they knew that once the conflict was done....they were coming back to something. We did that in Kosovo....and some in North Iraq. It works. It gives them a hope.

But you take that away....that Assad is also taking their farms, businesses and houses away....they have little reason or no reason not to fight.